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« skrivet: 2010-04-06, 03:11 »
Thank you for passing on this information, and please thank Åke Bjurström for looking it up.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2010-04-04, 20:24 »
Thanks for this idea! When we took a boat trip in the Stockholm archipelago, we wondered how we could rent a cottage on an island. You have given us a good website.
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« skrivet: 2010-04-04, 18:30 »
I have entered the above information into my notes, and now I know so much more about this family! My friend, who is too old to use the Internet for research, is grateful. This came at a good time for her because her husband is very ill, and learning about her Swedish ancestors makes her happy.
In addition, the family now knows about Vera and Daffney (or Daphney) Broberg (or Sandberg). Vera sailed under the name of Broberg, but used Sandberg as her name in the states. I have not found Daphney in the census yet. I will continue to search.
Those photos were interesting. I did not know that there was an Internet site that posted Swedish photos. My son, who has taken 4 years of Swedish in prepartion for our trip this summer, will help me translate and search.
One more question: what site can I find photos of the parishes that the Sandbergs and Brobergs were living in? Also, is there a picture on the Internet of the Tullkammaren lighthouse, where Johan Fredrick Sandberg died (Gryt parish, Östergotland)?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
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« skrivet: 2010-04-04, 13:16 »
I am impressed with all of this information. I will write again later, after I have written it all down and made copies of those wonderful photos! Thank you so much! My friend will be very happy today!
Karen Kelsey
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« skrivet: 2010-04-03, 23:08 »
I am helping an elderly friend discover her past. She gave me information, and I think that most of the parishes were located in Östergotland. What I need to know (so I can search in the U.S. census) is which of the children came to the U.S., and about when did they come. This is the family: FATHER: JOHAN FREDRICK SANDBERG born: 9 May 1887 in Gatstugan, Tystberga parish, Sodermanland, Sweden died: 23 Dec 1896 in Tullkammaren, Gryt parish, Östergotland (worked at the custom house) MOTHER: CAROLINA VILHELMINA PEHRSDOTTER (or Petersson) born: 26 May 1843 in Svartuna, Svarta parish, Norshammer, Sweden died: 7 April 1892 in Tullkammaren, Gryt parish, Östergotland THEIR CHILDREN: 1) AMANDA CAROLINA JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG (I know much about her, but not about her siblings) born: 11 Mar 1867 - Nykoping, Nokolai parish (Östergotland ?) moved to Stockholm in 1889, moved to England, and went to the U.S. in 1910 died: 14 Oct 1922 in Spokane, WA (married Carl Gustav Ryden) 2) AXEL FREDRICK JOHANSSON SANDBERG born: 15 Oct 1870 in Nykoping, Nikkolai parish (Östergotland ?) He emigrated, maybe around 1896 ?? He was a ship captain near San Francisco, but I canno find him in the U.S. censuses. 3) ELIN JOSEFINA JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG born: 5 Sept 1872 in Svartuna, Svarta parish Her daughter, Elvira VERA Maria, emigrated around 1910. I think Vera Sandberg was born out-of-wedlock around 1894, and was sent to the U.S. when she came of age. She settled in Spokane, near her mother's sister, Amanda Sandberg Ryden. 4) MARIA VILHELMINA born: 22 June 1874 in Svarta parish. She moved to Norkoping in 1891. Nothing more is known about her. 5) SELMA ELISABETH JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG born: 14 Oct 1876 in Gryt parish. In 1896 she was living in Gryt parish and later moved to Norkoping. 6) ALMA VIKTORIA JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG (1877 - 1878, died in Gryt parish) 7) ERIKA VIKTORIA JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG born: 13 Feb 1879 in Gryt parish Lived Baresund, Gryt parish in 1896  ALMA FREDRIKA JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG born: 22 Feb 1883 in Gryt parish Lived in Baresund, Gryt parish in 1896 9) ANNA EMILIA JOHANSDOTTER SANDBERG born: 11 Oct 1887 in Gryt parish Lived in Gryt parish in 1896, and sent a letter to the U.S. from Stockholm in 1911 My friend (born in the 1920's) is trying to find out what cousins she met when she was a child, but without knowing who in the family emigrated (except the oldest two), I have no idea of how to search. If they married in Sweden and then emigrated, they would be in the U.S. census under their married names. Any help would be appreciated. If you cannot give me help with the people, then I would like to know where these parishes were located - were they in Östergotland? Thanks in advance. Karen Kelsey}
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« skrivet: 2009-11-24, 12:34 »
Thank you very much, Judy. This confirms what we knew, and adds a lot to it. I am grateful for your work.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2009-11-23, 20:46 »
I am searching for information about Bengta Nilsdotter and her sister, Hanna Nilsdotter. There might be some information already posted on this site, but submitted in Swedish. Could someone use the search engine to see if these people were already studied?
BENGTA NILSDOTTER, born about 1846 in Gumlosa, Sweden. She emigrated in October 1901 with her son, Nils Jansson, born 26 Feb 1885 in Önnestad, Kristianstad municipality, Skåne. Bengta had three children, and at least two of them were born out-of-wedlock. Sigrid Selma Bengtasdotter (or Olsson) came to the U.S. earlier, and she adopted the name of Olsson, saying that her father had been Ollie Olsson. Elna Jansson was Bengta's other daughter, but we have no birth date or date of emigration. Bengta (Bertha), Elna (Ellen) and Nils (Nels) adopted the surname of Brostrom after they arrived in Maywood, Cook County, Illinois. We do not know why they chose that surname.
HANNA NILSDOTTER (Bengta's sister) was born in 1842 in Skåne Sweden. She emigrated around 1882, according to the U.S. census, and she came with her husband, Nils Andersson and children: Alma, Anton, Matilda, Nils Olof, Selma, Augusta and Otto.
We were told that the information we received a few years ago came from this site. If there is anything already written here, could someone help me translate? If not, perhaps someone could help me check the information we received? I realize that the surname of Nilsdotter is common, and it might be very difficult to find this family. I thank you in advance for searching.
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« skrivet: 2009-11-15, 16:45 »
Thank you so much, Elisabeth! These Freeberg immigrants all belonged to the Swedish Mission Church in St. Cloud, Minnesota, so their religion helped them connect with former times and other friends from home.
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« skrivet: 2009-11-15, 16:19 »
Yes, I was aware that Freeberg/Friberg was a common name, so that is why I waited a long time to submit my question to this site. First, I found obituaries, death certificates, census documents, and some naturalization information before expecting an answer to my question. In addition, the family listed their patronymic in many ways ... Johnson/Johnsdotter, Johannesson/Johannesdotter, Johansson/Johansdotter. After I found that a number of obituaries listed their place of birth as Nyed, Värmland, Sweden, then I felt that I could submit a question to the Rötter site.
We will visit Sweden again next year, and I might try to visit this area. I cannot find a photo of their parish church on-line, but I will keep trying, and I will pull out the detailed map I used on my former trips to identify where they lived.
Thanks for such a thorough answer. I will start making a family tree now, to attempt to figure out who was married to whom, since there are NUMEROUS Freebergs in the three family cemetery plots in Sauk Rapids, Minnesota. All of the Freebergs who settled in Sauk Rapids and St. Cloud seem to be related, and the men all worked at the granite quarries as stone masons. Some of their work remains in the area today, in stone walls that are left from an earlier era.
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« skrivet: 2009-11-14, 16:06 »
I have another question about this family. Did they use the name FREEBERG in the Swedish records, or are their records under only their patronymic names in the parish records? I want to search some of the Swedish records after I have access, but I am unsure if I look for Freeberg or for Nilsson, Nilsdotter, or Johannesson and Johannesdotter. I wonder if they adopted the name of Freeberg after they arrived in the US around the 1880s.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2009-11-14, 13:08 »
Thank you so much! Now I have their history before they came to Minnesota!
Karen
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« skrivet: 2009-11-14, 04:59 »
I would like information about the Freeberg family. According to obituaries, they emigrated from Nyed, Varmland, Sweden around 1886 and settled in Benton county, Minnesota, where the men worked as stone masons in the granite quarry. They all attended the same Swedish mission church in St. Cloud.
Their patronymic was Johansson and their surname was Freeberg. The siblings who emigrated were:
1) Charles Freeberg, born December 1851
2) Mary Johansdotter Freeberg, born 28 April 1865
3) John (or Johan) Freeberg, born 16 Mar 1868
Their sister, Christine Johansdotter Freeberg did not emigrate, and was alive in 1940 when her sister, Mary, died in Minnesota.
One note from our family history says that Charles was a cousin, not a brother.
Any information would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2009-10-21, 02:19 »
Thank you for this information. Yes, I will contact the Regional Archives to find more about Jöns Nilsson Freeman, and I might try to get their inventories of estate. That might give me an idea of what their lives were like after their return to Sweden.
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« skrivet: 2009-10-07, 15:53 »
Thank you so much! I have often helped Swedes find their lost ancestors who emigrated, but this is the first in my family who got lost after she returned to Sweden. We think that Jöns and Bessie left the U.S. after 1910, and maybe settled in Skåne because he was born there. Is it possible to find out more about Jöns Nilsson Freeman in the Swedish records?
I think he emigrated in 1890 and went first to Michigan. Then he and Bessie ended up in Chicago, and they were married there in 1900. There is a listing in the 1910 census for a John and Bessie Freeman, and he worked as a janitor in Chicago. Her age was incorrect, but that often happens on the census in large cities.
Thank you for whatever information you can provide. It is so good to find them!
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« skrivet: 2009-10-06, 16:36 »
I studied 6 of the 7 Larsson siblings who emigrated from Änimskog parish, Dalsland province, to Ironwood, Michigan, between 1881 and 1883. The youngest of these immigrants, CHRISTINA ELISABET BESSIE LARSON, emigrated in March 1882. She was born on 17 July 1869 in Änimskog.
We have one photograph of her, taken in Ironwood, Michigan. Family history says that she married Jans Nilsson Freeman in Michigan, and they returned to Sweden. No one knows when or why, or if they had children. The family was told that Bessie Freeman died in Sweden on 23 August 1932.
How can I find more about Bessie and her husband? We do not know when they returned to Sweden, or where they settled.
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« skrivet: 2009-04-14, 23:43 »
I made a mistake on the above entry. The Gust Kling that I mentioned, emigrating in 1883, may not have been from the same family. In 1900, Johanna Eriksdotter Kling lived with her daughter, Selma Olive Kling Rosengren and Selma's husband, Clause J. Rosengren.
It is easy to get confused with the Swedes in Rockford, Illinois because MANY of them settled in Rockford!
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« skrivet: 2009-04-14, 22:27 »
Thank you! It is interesting to find something about this family, and I was able to find Johanna on the 1900 census - living with a son (who was not mentioned on the above census), Gust Kling, born in Nov 1846 in Sweden. Johanna said that she had five children alive in 1900, but had given birth to 11 children. The son she lived with emigrated in 1883, according to the census, which is not always accurate on those details.
Your information gives me a way to continue with this study. I inherited a number of carte de viste photographs from the Kling and Rosengren families (Claus Rosengren, born in Sweden on 20 Jan 1862, married Selma Olivia Kling in Winnebago County, Illinois), but I had no idea of how to identify them or to learn about these ancestors.
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« skrivet: 2009-04-14, 17:21 »
I have searched for the backgound of my Kling ancestors, but have not found much. I cannot discover where in Sweden they were from, or what city they came through when they arrived in the U.S. They settled in Pecatonica, Winnebago County, IL, and there were two families of Klings in that little town. I do not think that I have enough information, but I will post a question to see if I might get lucky!
Gust Kling and his wife, Johanna (maiden name unknown), emigrated from Sweden in 1869, according to the U.S. census.
Gust Kling - born 1826 in Sweden
Johanna Kling - born April 1824- Sweden
their children:
Mathilda Kling - born 1860- Sweden
Frank Kling (maybe Frans) - born 1865- Sweden
Olive Selma Kling- born April 1868- Sweden
They settled in Pecatonica, IL and took up farming. I have not found obituaries yet. I may have to search the naturalization records to find more information, but those I looked for were not on microfilm.
I know that I may not get an answer to this query, since I have so little information to proceed with.
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« skrivet: 2009-04-12, 01:57 »
Yes, she was born in 1869 - you are correct. It is good to find the names of her parents and her brother. Thank you so much!
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« skrivet: 2009-04-11, 16:17 »
I would like information about HILDA GUSTAVA LILJEGREN, born 28 Apr 1867 in Lönneberga, Eksjö. She married Frans Gustaf Emil Blom on 2 Nov 1890 in Eksjö. He died before 1910 (death date unknown). Afterward, Hilda and her six children lived with her father-in-law, Gustaf Adolph Petersson Blom (Eksjö). In 1913, two of her children emigrated to Rockford, Illinois, USA, and in 1916, Hilda and the other children emigrated to Rockford.
I know the names of her children and when they emigrated, and I can follow them here in the U.S. I do not know the parents of Hilda, and anything about her past. Is it possible to find more information?
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« skrivet: 2008-08-12, 01:24 »
I am searching for one of my Larsson ancestors. The family came to the U.S. in the early 1880's from Ånimskog parish in Dalsland province. I have traced six of the seven children of Lars Magnus Eriksson and his wife, Kristina Eriksdotter. The youngest daughter, Kristina Elisabet Larsdotter, was born on 17 July 1869 in Ånimskog parish, and emigrated in March 1882 with two of her siblings. All seven Larssons/Larsdotters settled in northern Michigan. On 22 Sept 1900, Kristina Elisabet (Bessie) married Jans Nilsson Freeman in Chicago. They can be found on the 1910 Chicago census, married for 10 years, with no children. Her name was listed as Bessie Freeman. His name was John Freeman, and he was a citizen. Then they disappear from the U.S. census, and family members said that they returned to Sweden and died there. No one knows where they went, but family history says that Bessie Larsdotter Freeman died 23 Aug 1932 in Sweden. Jan (John) Nilsson Freeman was 43 years old in 1910, so he would have been born around 1867. Does anyone have ideas of how I can find where they settled after they returned to Sweden?
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« skrivet: 2007-09-12, 16:38 »
Thanks! That explains the story more clearly. I am sure that the readers of that story would have known what the author was talking about at the time it was printed in a newspaper.
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« skrivet: 2007-09-12, 13:16 »
When I visited Stockholm last month I was able to find a copy of Hjalmar Söderberg's short stories in translation. In the story Vox Populi, the narrator sits on a park bench on a warm summer day, near a sculpture that Söderberg calls Grandfather - which has a boy sleeping on his knee. Two ugly old women pass by and get upset about the sculpture, and then their little dog begins barking. Söderberg writes, As is well known, Grandfather is a highly indecent piece of sculpture... as he continues poking fun at the very moral Stockholm population.
Where is this sculpture (or where was it) - if it had once stood somewhere in Stockholm? Is it considered indecent today?
Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2007-08-15, 22:23 »
Thanks to all of you! I am sure that we'll have a great time. And yes, Chris, I plan to visit the Bishop Hill museum this September. I know that the four Källström children did not live at Bishop Hill, but moved nearby after their parents' death. They were helped by other immigrants from their home parish in Sweden. The parents had intended to go to Bishop Hill, but they stayed in Chicago due to an argument with the Janssonist leader of their group. Many at Biship Hill died of Asiatic cholera, and so did the Källström parents, even though they lived in Chicago. However, someone did enter the Kelsey family into the Bishop Hill database, although we can find no evidence that they lived in the settlement.
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« skrivet: 2007-08-15, 14:05 »
We will be flying to Stockholm on Sunday, and after we see that city we will rent a car and try to see the parishes where my husband's Källström (changed to Kelsey) family came from:
Lundby, Tillinge parish
Torstuna parish
Syllby, Österunda parish
I found Österunda and Torstuna our large map, but I cannot identify Lundby, Tillinge parish. Any ideas? Also, will these rural parishes be difficult to locate, since they are on roads that have no names on our maps?
The Källströms were followers of Erik Jansson, and emigrated (1846) to the United States to find religious freedom. The parents died of Asiatic cholera not long after their arrival, but the four children who emigrated did not contract that disease and were successful. The Källstrom family had four other children who stayed in Sweden, but we have been unable to trace their descendents. We want to see the parishes where they lived.
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« skrivet: 2007-08-08, 23:58 »
The 1910 census shows that the Erickson family (spelled with a k) still lived in Superior (Douglas County), Wisconsin. They rented their home, and Gustaf was a laborer. They had one daughter living with them, Anna, who worked as a cashier at a newspaper office. The 1910 census asked how many children the woman had had, and how many were living. Mary answered that she had given birth to one child, and one was alive. Perhaps Mary misunderstood the question, and did not enter the other children - who may have died.
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« skrivet: 2007-08-08, 01:55 »
Julius F. Cornelius appears on the 1910 census for King County, Washington (Seattle), living with his family:
FATHER- Walford Cornelius,60 years old, a widower, born in Sweden, immigrated in 1882, and worked for the city of Seattle.
BROTHERS- Charles W. Cornelius, 28, a logger
George, 25, a blacksmith
Oscar, 23, a meat cutter,
Julius, age 21, listed himself as a sailor
The sister, Hilda, was 17 and had no occupation. The oldest son, Charles, had been born in Sweden and also immigrated in 1882. The other three sons were born in Minnesota, and Hilda was born in Washington, so they must have moved west around 1893.
Charles Walfred and George Cornelius also registered for the draft, so you can see their exact birthdates that way. There is a listing for a George Cornelius in the WA death database.
On the 1920 census, Walfred (69) and his son George still live in Seattle. Next to them lives the oldest son, Charles, and he was married to Alice. They had a daughter, Hope, age 16, but I cannot see any listing for Julius after 1910. Maybe someone else can find him.
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« skrivet: 2007-08-03, 13:40 »
Thanks! I will visit the descendents of these people in two weeks, and I will give them the family tree and a family history that I have written. Perhaps one of the relatives has information about little Ann-Britt- what her surname was, and if she died at home or at one of the hospitals. I think that Ann-Britt died around the age of 10, but no one is certain. She is not buried with Svea and Bernt Bengtsson, because their stone still stands at the Svenstorp kyrka, and it does not list her name. I visited that parish in 2005.
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« skrivet: 2007-08-03, 03:52 »
I am making a family tree and I am missing the death dates of a few ancestors. Is it possible to look for these people?
Margit Linnea Ahlgren
Born: 8-Dec 1908 in Gärdslöv parish, Skåne
Married: Birger Kritensson
Probably died at their farm in Genarp.
Svea Elisabeth Ahlgren
Born: 8-March 1905 in Gärdslöv parish, Skåne
Married: Bernt Bengtsson (second marriage)
Died: 1975 ?? (at Svenstorp)
Also, Svea was married previously, but her first husband's name is unknown. The daughter of that marriage, Ann-Britt, died as a child around 1938, probably near Gärdslöv. Is there any way to find Svea's first husband's name, so that I could find when their daughter died? I think that Ann-Britt would have had her father's surname, not Ahlgren, the surname of her mother.
Thanks for whatever help you can give.
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« skrivet: 2007-07-07, 15:19 »
The John Anderson death that I told you about is wrong. The MN death index shows a John O. Anderson who died in Ramsey County (St. Paul)on 20-August 1932.
There are so many John Andersons in the U.S. that I would never find the correct person unless you knew the approximate date of death, and you did!
By the way, the family lived on CASE street. I looked up that street name in the website for the MN Historical society, and they have a few photos of old St. Paul, and CASE street is mentioned.
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« skrivet: 2007-07-06, 02:11 »
On the 1920 federal census for St. Paul, Minnesota, John O. Anderson and his wife, Matilda A. Anderson, still lived at 782 Casa (or Case) Street. Their childrens' names were Maxine H. (8 years old) and Turus J. (5). John drove a delivery truck for a laundry.
I could not find them in the 1930 census.
There is a death listing for a John Anderson on July 1967 in Lucas County, Ohio. That person was born on April 9, 1887, so it may be your John Anderson, although John Anderson is a very common name. there is a listing for a Matilda A. Anderson who died in Minnesota on 19-October 1987 in Hennepin County (the county next to St. Paul). I think that is John's wife. Her birth date was listed as 18-June 1891.
Do you know that birth year of Anders Anderson?
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« skrivet: 2007-07-04, 18:04 »
I found that John Albert Peterson was born on March 23, 1918 in Seattle. His parents were Albert H. Peterson, and his mother was Lillian Krogstad.
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« skrivet: 2007-05-10, 13:01 »
I think I found the same man in the 1930 census. He was 40 years old, married and lived in New York city, NY, but listed his name as Oscar Bjork this time. His wife was 43 years old, and they had a 4 year old son, Paul Bjork. Oscar was a carpenter. The problem arises with the year of immigration because this Oscar Bjork says he came in 1901, so I guess these New York Bjorks are not the person you are looking for.
Off to work now.
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« skrivet: 2007-05-10, 12:53 »
On the 1920 census there is a listing for a Georg Bgork or Bjork (the database has it listed both ways). He was 30 years old, single, and lived on west 108th Street in Manhattan, New York. Because he was living in an rooming house, the year of immigration was not known. That George worked as a salesman in a grocery.
After work today I'll see if there is a listing in the 1910 or 1930 censuses. No time now. Maybe someone else has the time to look.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-30, 09:28 »
Does anyone have access to the 1871 Canadian (Ontario) census? One of my ancestors adopted a daughter who was born in Wisconsin, and was from a French Canadian family. I have found my own ancestors in Sweden, but I want to find this adopted child's ancestors in the Canadian census, but I have no access. Her last name was TROTECHAUD, and they listed their ancestry as French Canadian. Two of her relatives (maybe cousins) are listed in Ancestry as soldiers of WWI from Canada: Joseph and Victor. In the Ontario census from 1871, there is a Joseph Trotechaud listed, born in 1823. Does anyone have access to that census? Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2007-04-29, 02:40 »
Edwin Skoglund registered for the draft in 1917 or 1918. He listed his birthdate as 12-Oct. 1876, his age was 41, and his occupation was carpenter for the Henry Shank Company of Erie Pennsylvania. His wife was Matilda Sophia Skoglund, and their address was in Jamestown, NY. Maybe it says 12 Morton St - very hard to read. He was of medium height, medium build, blue eyes and light hair. He had one eye crooked. The 1930 census does not say that Edwin served in the war. Because his son, Clarence, disappeared between the 1910 and 1920 censuses, it is likely that he died. If you want to look at the Fenton Historical society website it is at http://www.fentonhistorycenter.org/genealogy.htm It has some old photos that you can look at, and information about volunteers that will research for a fee. Jamestown must have had a large Swedish population because they still hold a midsummer festival in July. http://www.scandinavianjamestown.org/2exhibit.htm
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« skrivet: 2007-04-28, 13:00 »
It appears that Edwin lived in Jamestown, New York too. On the 1930 census for Chautauqua County, New York (Jamestown city) there appears an Edwin Skoglund, age 53, who was a house carpenter too. He was married to Matilda J. Skoglund, 48 years old. They owned their own home and had paid $4,000 for it. They both immigrated in 1903 and were citizens by 1930. Then I tried to find them in other censuses. In 1910, Edwin and Matilda lived in the same city and he was a building carpenter. They had two children, Hildur age 5, and Clarence, age 3. He had immigrated in 1903, and this census says that she had come to the U.S. (from Sweden) in 1897. The immigration dates are often incorrect on the federal census forms. They were renting a house on Park Street in Jamestown. Both children had been born in Pennsylvania. I cannot find them on the 1920 census, and it is time to go to work, so Ill look for that and their death dates at some other time. If you want copies of these census forms, send me an e-mail.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-26, 00:41 »
The address for the Fenton Historical Society is 67 Washington Street Jamestown, NY 14701 U.S.A.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-25, 02:23 »
Axels son, Archie Skoglund (born on August 8, 1919) died in April 1981 in Jamestown, Chautauqua county, New York. His death cert is also available.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-25, 02:14 »
The social security database says that Axel Skoglund died in November 1964 in New York state. It gives his birth date as August 21, 1884, so that is probably your ancestor, since the day of birth was off by only a four days. I found this date on this website: http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi You can order a copy of his death certificate by clicking on the right side, then entering your credit card number. Ive never ordered a death certificate to be mailed outside the U.S., but it seems like it should be possible. Has anyone else used this site to get death certs sent to Sweden? You might get more information by writing to the Chautauqua county genealogical society (type that into Googles search engine to get an address), or to the county historical society. I am unsure if Jamestown has a historical society. I could not find the brother because I did not know his birth date.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-24, 23:57 »
The 1920 U.S. Federal census shows a listing for an Axel F. Skoglund, age 36, living in Chautauqua County, New York. This Axel immigrated in 1913 and worked as a carpenter. His wife, Davida, was 36, had immigrated in 1910, and they had a son, Archie, who was 5 months old. The same couple was listed in the 1930 census, but their ages were incorrect on one of the censuses. In 1920 they were listed as 36 years old, but in 1930 they were listed as 41 years old, so I suspect that the 1930 census was incorrect. However, Axel still worked as a carpenter, and his son was 10 years old and in school. They rented a home in the town of Jamestown, New York (Chautauqua county). I could not find his World War I draft registration. He became a citizen in 1919.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-19, 23:44 »
Thanks! I will try looking for his parents, although they may have been buried in Österhaninge.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-19, 19:21 »
I searched (without luck) for the exact death date of Wilhelm Laurentius Olsson, born on 7-August 1894 in Bromma Parish, Stockholm. A relative told me that he died sometime in 1921, and he may have died at the family's summer home in Vendelsö, where they attended the Österhaninge parish church. The family lived at 17 Malmskillnadsgatan in Stockholm prior their retirement in 1924, but it is not known where they lived in 1921- when he died. He was severely mentally retarded (with Rickets disease), so he would have been with his parents. The family belonged to many parishes in Stockholm (if deaths are listed by parish): Bromma, Klara, & Johannes.
If deaths are listed by last name, there was another Wilhelm Laurentius Olsson, born in 1892 and died sometime in 1893 of diphtheria, probably in Adolf Fredrik or Bromma parish. After that baby died, the parents gave the same name to their next son. Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2007-04-19, 17:44 »
I am somewhat confused by these searches, but in case you are looking for Axel Lundgren's WWI draft registration, Ancestry has one listed from Minneapolis- Axel Lundgren, birthday= August 21, 1890 1011 15th street, Minneapolis 26 years old (filed on June 5, 1917) married: yes occupation: stone mason at cement works Also, there is a death listing for an ARON LUNDGREN issued on 16-Feb 1925 in Hennepin County, MN (Minneapolis) listed on the Minn. Historical site: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Search.cfm?bhcp=1 It does not say how old this person was, so it probably was not your Frans Aron.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-05, 16:42 »
I was unable to identify which William and Clara Matilda Olson were the correct persons, but I did find the second request logged under this question:
In 1930 John & Alvina Larson lived in Katsap, Washington (U.S. Federal census). He was 47 and she was 45, and he worked as a logger in the lumber industry. Their daughter was 15 year old Frances, and their son was 14 year old Walter. The census listed their immigration dates wrong by one year, but I'm sure this is the person you were looking for.
In 1920 they lived in the same county (Kitsap), in the district of Waterman, and they lived on Waterman Valley Road. Their children, Frances E. Larson was 6 years old, and their son, John W (Walter) was 3 years and 3 months old. The census was taken in January 1920, so you can tell from that approximately when John Walter had been born. On that census he said that his occupation was farmer, general farm. They owned their home without a mortgage. The wife's name was spelled incorrectly as Elvina.
I am not very good at finding people in the social security death index, so perhaps someone else can do that for you.
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« skrivet: 2007-03-14, 00:38 »
Thank you. I had seen that etching once, but did not know what date it was made. I will include that one with the family history I am writing.
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« skrivet: 2007-03-13, 20:43 »
I read that Anders Sigfrid Rålamb drew a picture of the Näsbyholm estate (Skåne) in 1780, according to one article that was translated for me. Where can I find the Rålamb drawing? I have a view card that shows what was left of the manor house in 1908, but I'd like to know approximately what the estate looked like before the devastating fires.
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2007-03-08, 16:28 »
I found Anna and Frank in Washington's 1900 census, but could not trace them after that date. I assume that they stayed out west? There is a chance that Anna's obituary would have the date of death of her husband in it. I cannot find an on-line death index for Washington state. Perhaps someone knows where to find one? Otherwise, you must look at the Ferry County, Washington historical society to find Anna's date of death (or the soc sec death index if she lived that long), and then search for an obituary. I do not know if they stayed in Washington. Her husband might have died CA - and I cannot find an on-line death index for either CA or WA (that includes death prior to 1900).
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« skrivet: 2007-02-28, 18:05 »
Thanks to both of you!
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« skrivet: 2007-02-28, 16:41 »
I am confused about where my ancestors lived. Perhaps someone who knows about the old area of Stockholm can help me. In the letters written by Carolina Ahlgren Olsson, she refers to the clock in the church which was outside the nursery of their apartment. From what I have reconstructed, they lived at 7 different addresses. She writes about the church clock in letters from the 1904 - 1911 era, when they moved between Klara parish and Johannes parish. I know that the postmarks from her letters in Dec 1907 and 1911 were from Malmskillnadsgatan #17. Today that address is in the financial district of Stockholm, since that area of the city has been rebuilt. Was that address near the Johannes parish church? If not, perhaps it was near the Klara parish church? Carolina talks frequently about having the clock outside the window of the house, and I'd like to include a recent photo of the church tower in my family history. Also, I will be in Stockholm next summer, and I want to see those churches. Thanks!
One more quick question - after the Olssons retired, they moved to Vendelsö. Is that an area of Stockholm, or a town that is north?
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« skrivet: 2007-02-24, 12:49 »
I did not know that being deaf and dumb was an inheritable trait - I thought it happened by accident. However, this family had four daughters who were deaf and dumb - Anna Albertina (born in 1852), and the three youngest daughters.
Thank you for telling me what that word meant!
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« skrivet: 2007-02-24, 12:30 »
Thanks for so much information!
Karen
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« skrivet: 2007-02-23, 23:00 »
I have always wondered about Hannah M. Gustafson, my father's great aunt. Her obituary says that she was born on 26-Nov 1864 in Osho,Ostergotland and she came to the U.S. around 1893. At the time of her death in 1928, she had two sisters living- Hulda Gustafson lived in Stockholm, and Mrs. N. Hagglund lived in Lewiston, Idaho. Perhaps she and her sister (given name unknown) emigrated together.
Any ideas of where Osho, Ostergotland is located? Did Hannah have a large family? Any help would be appreciated!
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« skrivet: 2007-02-21, 03:10 »
I forgot to give you the website of the Cannon Falls, MN historical society. I received a lot of help from someone there, and it may have been the person who is listed on this website. (It was a long time ago, so I cannot remember her name.) http://www.citlink.net/~cfmuseum/ That should lead you to the Cannon Falls link, with some e-mail addresses. Also, if your friend sends me an e-mail with more information about where the family ended up, and what their names were, I might be able to help (if I have time) on my next trip to MN Hist. Society.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-21, 02:55 »
Where does your friend live, & did the family stay in Minnesota - or did they move west? That might be a clue as to where Joseph P. Nilson (Nelson) might have gone. Was George Nilson his grandfather - the son that was listed on the 1880 census? Or was his grandfather/grandmother their 2nd or 3rd child? Did the family keep NILSON as their surname, or did they change it to Nelson? Your friend should search in the U.S. records for his grandfather/grandmother, then go backwards in time. Find his grandparent in the 1930 census, then 1920, etc. When you get back far enough, you can usually find where a grandparent died, then find an obituary that tells when their parents died.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-20, 11:37 »
You might get more information about Joseph from the local history museum in Cannon Falls. The on-line death databases start too late if he died between 1880 and 1900, but there might be records kept at the local historical society, or even at the state historical society in St. Paul. If he had a death registration, then you should find his place of birth, or at least his actual birth date, from either his death certificate or his obituary. Those little MN towns often ran huge obituaries that were filled with information and praise of the person. I've gotten a lot of things from local societies that help me find ancestors.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-15, 12:31 »
Thanks for the information. First, the family that you and Mats found was the correct one. Because Wilhelm worked at the shipyard, that explains why he might be carried onto the steamer drunk.
I just finished writing about Anders Wilhelm Ahlgren and his siblings. Wilhelm took the name of William A. Ahlgren when he immigrated to Rockford, Illinois. He married Hannah Gustafson, another immigrant, and they had two children. One daugther died in 1917, at the age of 10. The other lived to be 95, but did not marry and had no children. So there are no further descendents from Wilhelm. However, Anders Wilhelm's brother and sisters have many descendents in the U.S. and in Sweden. We've met some of them and I am writing about each one.
One of Nils Gustav Ahlgren's relatives lived in Anderslöv - Jakob Lindell and his family. He has had some news articles written about him because he was sent to prison for murdering the father of his second wife. I will be writing about him soon.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-15, 00:21 »
Nils Gustaf Ahlgren died in 1899 in Gärdslöv, and I think the letter was from around 1894. Gustaf also sent his greetings to his son-in-law in that letter, and that must have meant Maria's new husband. She got married at the end of 1893, so that is how I date the letter.
The Wilhelm who was talked about was a worker at Malmo's shipyard (that fact was mentioned in the letter too). Would they have hired a stoker at a shipyard?
There were many cousins in this family, since old Nils Gustaf and his wife, Kerstina Hansdotter, were both from big families. There might have been many Wilhelms, so I probably will never know who was the subject of Gustaf's gossip! I thank everyone for trying to solve this!
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« skrivet: 2007-02-13, 17:04 »
I have inherited letters from Sweden, and in one of the undated letters there is a description of a cousin, named Wilhelm, who emigrated to America. Old Nils Gustaf Ahlgren told his American family about this cousin's misadventures on the night before he emigrated. He said that their cousin, Wilhelm (no surname given), had gotten so drunk in Malmö that he had to be carried aboard the steamer by a man named Thelander. Wilehelm's luggage was already on board, so Thelander felt obligated to carry him onto the ship, rather than bringing him back to Gärdslöv.
I have wondered about the identity of this cousin. I know it was not Gustaf's own son, Anders Wilhelm Ahlgren, who emigrated in 1891, and it was not Gustav's brother's son - a shoemaker named Wilhelm Ahlgren. I found that Gustaf's wife, Kerstina Hansdotter, had a brother named Jöns Hansson (born: 1832) who lived in Gärdslöv. Jöns Hansson's youngest son was named Wilhelm, born 26-Aug 1875. He would have been a cousin (mother's brother's son)to my Ahlgrens, so perhaps this was the man who was carted onto the ship dead drunk. I assume that the children of åbo Jöns Hansson would assume the surname of Jönsson.
Is there any way to see if Wilhelm Jönsson moved from Gärdslöv to Malmö, and then emigrated? I think the letter was written around 1893.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-06, 12:49 »
Thanks for the thorough answer! You have been very helpful! Johanna Ahlgren was taken care of by her son, so she did not need to work at the manorhouse, but she must have felt an obligation. Johanna's father had a lease on a piece of property, but I am sure that he was originally given the home because he was the carpenter for the estate. He also farmed the Sjöhus property. He had the type of lease that could be handed down to the next generation, and then his grandson took over (1899). Eventually, his grandson became a foreman, and he no longer farmed his own property. He stayed in the same house as a paid worker of the estate, and his mother lived with him. She continued to do laundry four days a month for Näsbyholm.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-05, 16:41 »
I made one mistake in the description of the Ahlgrens. The elder Nils Gustaf Ahlgren was called an Arrendator Snickare, since he leased from a private estate, rather than from the crown.
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« skrivet: 2007-02-05, 16:33 »
My ancestors, the Ahlgrens, leased their property in Skåne from the Blixen-Finecke family at the Näsbyholm estate. I think the Ahlgrens were in the class of åbo, and they stayed in the same cottage for almost 100 years. I am writing a narrative about their lives, and I wonder about their work requirements to the estate landlord. I know that the old hoveri system was abolished around 1868, after the family was already living on the Sjöhus property. The letters talk about the oldest daughter, Johanna, doing laundry four times a month at the manor house - until she was 70 years old! Did lease-holders owe work obligations to the estate landlords, and how much work were they required to provide free?
Thanks for whatever help you can give me.
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« skrivet: 2007-01-25, 23:12 »
The pre-1916 IL marriage index records the marriage of Albert OHLSSON to Mary Grault on Dec. 26, 1892 in St. Clair County, IL. The pre-1916 marriage index is at: http://www.ilsos.net/GenealogyMWeb/MarriageSearchServlet I searched by the bride- Grault, since it was easier to find than searching by the many ways to spell Olson. In Ancestry's list of WWI draft registrations, you can locate Peter Albert OLESON, born Dec. 2, 1892, who registered in St. Clair, IL. It says that he was from Centerville, St. Clair Co, USA. He was a boiler maker helper at Wa Zelincker Supply Company in East St. Louis, IL. He had a wife and two children, and he registered on June 5, 1917. He was of medium height, medium complexion, with light hair and gray eyes. Although the database has his name spelled as Oleson, he has signed the document as Peter Albert Olsson.
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« skrivet: 2007-01-23, 13:32 »
I think that was the correct person because their Centerville neighbors included the Grault family: Joseph, Willie (Wilhelmina? She was his wife) and Della Grault, a child. Those names were transcribed by Ancestry, and I see them on the page but I could never have read them. Perhaps Heritagequest would give a better imprint.
1920 census (MUCH more readable):
ALFRED OLSON, age 56, a widower, year of immigration unknown, born in Sweden. He and his 23 year old son, Edward, worked as foremen for the Southern Railroad. The children living at home were: Edward- 23, Maria- 22, Dorothy- 21, & Earl- 15. They lived on Market Street in Centerville township, St. Clair County, IL. They rented their home.
There are numerous listings in the IL Death index for the Olson family from St. Clair Co, IL
I am unsure about whether his name was Albert or Alfred, but the 1920 census looks like it was Alfred. I don't have time to search the 1930 census. Perhaps someone can help you, and find a date of immigration on that one.
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« skrivet: 2007-01-23, 13:00 »
In the 1910 census for St. Clair County, IL there is a listing for Albert and Cristine OLSSON, but the census-taker wrote very poorly. It looks like they had been married for 18 years and had 6 living children, ranging in age from 17 to an infant who was less than one year old. It looks like the the father's age was 45 and the mother was 37, and both were married only once. I think the ethnicity says that she was French. He was Swedish and came to the country in 1881 - if I read that correctly. Some of the childrens' names that I can read are: Albert (jr.?), Ruth, Helen and Esther. Ancestry says that there was a Walter and Stella too, but I certainly could not read that. The family lived in Centerville, St. Clair County, IL
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« skrivet: 2007-01-11, 21:55 »
You can find many of the sons living on their own farms in Chisago County, Amador township in the 1930 census. They were farmers, and they had their own farms. Two of the sons were on farms that were next to one another, or they farmed the same land, but lived in separate houses.
You could write to the Amador, MN Heritage Center to see where more records are kept, and if they can give further information. I am certain that there are Sellmans and descendents living in that area, since there were so MANY of them, and so MANY grandchildren. Plat maps showing where the many Sellmans lived would be available at the county museum, or at a county archive.
Amador Heritage Center
Route 2 Box 191
North Branch, MN 55056
USA
Sometimes addresses taken off the Internet are incorrect, so I apolgize if I've given you the wrong address.
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« skrivet: 2007-01-11, 21:32 »
Did you have the death dates?
Carl Victor Sellman- died 31-August 1955
Annette Sellman- died 26-February 1958
Arvid Sellman- died 26-September 1976
Clarence Sellman- died 22-February 1980
Dewey E. Sellman- died 22-May 1992
(Maybe a grandchild, unless he lived to be 94 years old)
Anfrid Sellman (Ernfrid) died 2-July 1985
One child died at a year old- Ruth Florence Sellman, born 1904, died 16-July 1905
I think that the wife's maiden name was Swenson or Swanson. The birth index listed that last name as the mother's maiden name for some of the childrens' births. The birth index does not list any births prior to 1900. Two of the Sellman children had their mother's maiden name listed as Annette - so someone must have misunderstood the directions. By the way, there were MANY Sellmans in Chisago County. Did others from that family immigrate together?
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« skrivet: 2007-01-08, 00:43 »
Thanks for this information. I also received photos in my e-mail from someone else! You've been helpful.
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« skrivet: 2007-01-06, 16:01 »
When my ancestor, Nils Gustaf Ahlgren, died in Sept. 1899 (Gärdslöv parish), his will listed the things that he owned. A friend has translated most of this will for me. Under miscellaneous possessions were listed 1 bultstol med bultor and 1 hasp. Would a bultstol with bultor be something used in carpentry? What about a hasp? Is that a locking mechanism? I cannot find any picture or drawings of either item.
Under the grain that was present at Gustaf's death: 4 hectoliters of potatoes, 3 hectolieters of mixed grain, and 30 kilograms of rye. I was told that a hectoliter equals 22 gallons. Would these stockpiles of grains and potatoes be considered an average amount, or would an åbo family usually have more than that saved in September (end of the 19th century)?
Other questions? Is there a website that might show drawings of these possessions: 2 iron or tin ovens (were these portable things that might be used on top of a stove?), wooden items: 2 looms, 1 spinning wheel, 1 wool winder, and 1 warp.
I found a drawing of a spinning wheel, but I'm still searching for a site that has a j-peg of a simple hand-made wool winder, loom, and warp that were typical of a poor farm family from southern Sweden.
Thanks for whatever ideas you can give. If I find little drawings, I can insert them into the family history to show the family's children what their ancestors owned and used in their everyday lives.
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« skrivet: 2006-12-15, 00:32 »
Thanks for looking at Swenson, Chuck. You helped me find my lost ancestors in church records last year, so I knew there was a chance that Anita Karlsson might find her Engström ancestors that way. It was kind of you - to look for Anita, and to have found mine.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-12-11, 00:23 »
If he was Lutheran, there might be information on his move into and out of one of the Lutheran congregations in Grand Rapids at Vaxjö.
I found two of my lost ancestors that way.
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« skrivet: 2006-12-10, 14:08 »
The local genealogical society in Grand Rapids might know some source that would have Emanuel Erickson Engstrom's name listed, such as an old directory or telephone book. I did not see a 1910 directory listed on the Kent County website, but the city might have one. Try this address, & in case the e-mail address does not work, write to them via snail mail. Tell them you have been looking for a long time for this ancestor, giving whatever information you have. Grand Rapids Historical Society c/o Grand Rapids Public Library 111 Library Street NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503 (616) 988-5402 ext. 5497 Email: info@grhistory.org URL: http://www.grhistory.org/ I looked at the Kent County, MI on-line marriage database, and did not see any Engstrom or Erickson/Erikson who was listed. There was an E.L. Erickson, but that was the closest I found. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mikent/marriages/ Usually, when an immigrant settled somewhere, he usually petitioned for citizenship immiediately, completing the process five years later. There is no Engstrom in the on-line Michigan database for Kent County, MI. http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mhc_sa_kentntrlztn_ef-g_50307_7.pdf There is an IMMANUEL ERIKSON listed, but I do not know where to get a hold of that document to see if it is your Emanuel Engstrom. It was his final petition made in Kent county, not the initial, in Vol 77 page 234. No dates are given. Then it says: Researchers may request copies of naturalization records from the Archives of Michigan. Click Archives of Michigan Requests for further information, but it might cost quite a lot to follow through with this one possibility at this site. http://www.michigan.gov/hal/0,1607,7-160-17449_18640_18660-57424--,00.html That is all I can think of this morning.
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« skrivet: 2006-12-09, 16:09 »
There is also a listing for an Emil Engstrom in the 1920 census for Chicago, which I think is a different person from those previously mentioned:
1920 U.S. federal census
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« skrivet: 2006-11-29, 14:01 »
Very interesting, Ingela! I saved your photo and will include it in my narrative about life in Sweden. My mother will enjoy your comments too; she is 85 and has inherited so much silver!
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« skrivet: 2006-11-24, 23:18 »
Thanks to both of you, and I will use these ideas to carry on my research. I am sure that you've found the family, Ulla, and now I can look deeper to continue the military part of the search.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-23, 19:35 »
One of my ancestors was a soldier, but I do not have enough information to search for him in the DIS central soldiers register. His name was Olof Persson, and he was born in 1772 in Skäggeberg in Sunne parish, (S) - which must mean Varmland. Is it possible to find his soldier name so that I can search in the soldier database, or was this ancestor born too early to be listed? Where would I go to find more information?
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« skrivet: 2006-11-23, 19:03 »
Thank you, Ingela. I am from a totally Scandinavian family, and I find that the things they gave me, or the traditions they tried to impart, were often those brought from the old country. My mormors mor, Josefina Johansdotter Anderson, always gave me a silver spoon at both birthdays and Christmas, and she talked about my hope chest. She gave me hand-crocheted doilies and tiny spoons (for salt) for that chest, which I sarcastically renamed my barrel of despair. I have been married for 40 years, and I still have two silver chests that are filled with items inherited from my grandmothers and grt-grandmothers, and everything is silver. When my mormors mor came to the U.S. from Dagsås parish, she wanted to own things - probably because she came from a poor background. Therefore, she invested in silver tea services, plates and bowls, and silverware, and sparkling cut glass bowls, and she gave her grand and great grandchildren silver as gifts. I never knew why, but now you have made me understand this tradition. It also lets me know why we inherited so much silver from the old folks!
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« skrivet: 2006-11-22, 13:45 »
Thanks! Yes, it may be a Danish spoon because my farfar was Danish, arriving in the U.S. in 1906. He may have given that spoon to me, since it was traditional to give granddaughters spoons at every birthday. I have at least 20 different spoons, but this was the only one with the imprint of a story or legend.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-21, 23:15 »
I received a silver spoon when I was a child, but I never knew what story or legend it told about. At the top of the spoon is a soldier with a tall hat, sword, and a long soldier's coat. He is climbing into a large hollow tree trunk, and he is being helped by a woman who looks like a peasant. She is helping this soldier by holding on to a long rope attached to his waist.
Someone told me that this was about a king who hid in a tree to escape the enemy. Another person told me that this was a story by Hans Christian Andersen. The stamp on the back of the spoon seems to be three tiny, old houses, like some type of company symbol. Those houses are very small, and embedded into the silver. Any ideas of what this represents? I've used the spoon for 45 years without understanding its meaning.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-17, 15:36 »
The above record says that Matilda Jansdotter was a widow, so perhaps her first husband's name was Carlsson, and that is why the American sources were confusing. Our sources also say that she was born at Lane-Ryr, Göteborg on 29-Feb. 1852. The only thing I could find about Lane-Ryr was a note that it was a parish in the municipality of Uddevalla, Göteborg. Is this correct?
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« skrivet: 2006-11-17, 13:25 »
Thank you. I will try to change the records posted on Ancestry so that they have her correct surname. Does anyone have access to the emigrant CD to see when she emigrated in 1882? Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2006-11-16, 22:00 »
I have been studying the seven children of Lars Magnus Eriksson (b: July 1823 in Ånimskog) and Kristina Eriksdotter (b: June 1823 in Skållerud. All of their children emigrated from Ånimskog parish between 1881-1883, settling first in Michigan. I have finally traced the oldest sibling, Walfred Larsson, born 6-Jan. 1854 in Ånimskog parish. He married Mathilda (?) from Ånimskog, in 1882 in Michigan. (U.S.sources give her maiden name as Carlsdotter or Jonsdotter & give her mother's name as Johanna Jacobsdotter) According to U.S. sources, Eric Magnus Larsson and Mathilda (?) had their first child out-of-wedlock in Ånimskog parish, WALFRED LARSSON, born 18-Oct. 1881.
Can anyone find this birth registered in the Ånimskog parish record? It looks like Eric Magnus Larsson emigrated in 1881, settled in Alcona county, Michigan as a farmer, then brought Mathilda and their son, Walfred, to Spruce, Michigan, where they were married in Dec. 1882. Eric Magnus and Mathilda had eight more children after their emigration.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-12, 13:34 »
I searched in the 1900 census for Marinette County, Wisconsin, and found no Hagberg, but there is a Claes Anderson, age 48, living in the city of Marinette. It is hard to read, but it looks like his birth month and year were September 185? (Counld be a 4, or maybe a 2)
He was an unmarried laborer and he lived with other Swedes in a boarding house.
In 1910 there is a Claus Anderson living in the same county, about the correct age, who owns a saloon. I am unsure if this is your person. Maybe someone can do a search using Ancestry for you. Peshtigo, Wisconsin is near Marinette City.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-12, 00:37 »
The web address for the Jamestown, NY historical society is: http://www.fentonhistorycenter.org/genealogy.htm There is an on-line form to fill out, or you can write to them. Often when they know that someone is writing from another country, they will not charge the usual research fee. Maybe they have a database of immigrants to Jamestown, or a census taken in the mid-1890s.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-11, 00:10 »
The 1900 census for New York, Chautauqua County (where Jamestown is located) has only three Magnusons listed:
Gusta Magnuson - 20 years old
Gustaf Magnuson - 53
Signe Magnuson- 19
There are two MagnuSSons:
Anna Magnusson - 24
Selina Magnusson - 35
I searched that county by given names too, but could not find your Magnuson/Erickson/Erikson ancestors. I did a quick check of all New York, and was not more successful.
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« skrivet: 2006-11-08, 13:01 »
There is a listing in the U.S. Federal census for 1920 (Colorado
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« skrivet: 2006-11-05, 01:06 »
Thanks so much!!!
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« skrivet: 2006-11-04, 12:16 »
Thanks to everyone! The Herman Sorling who lived in Maywood (draft registration) was the man I am searching for. Those draft cards made me realize that the person I had found in the Ellis Island database was the incorrect person. I will print all of the material that you (all of you) sent, and see if I can determine which family was his. Also, I do know how to search for naturalization papers, so I'll do that soon. THANKS!
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« skrivet: 2006-11-04, 03:01 »
Herman Sorling was a boarder at my great grandparents' home for over 20 years, and we have always been curious about him. The U.S. census (1930, Maywood, Cook County, Illinois) says that he was born around 1880 in Sweden. The only Herman Sorling that I find in the Ellis Island database shows that a 30 year old person by that name emigrated to the U.S. in 1910. It says that he was from Chever, Sweden. What might sound like Chever??
Is there any chance of finding a little about Herman Sorling? He is not our relative, but he was with my grt-grandparents for so many years that we thought of him as family. He spoke Swedish, ate Swedish food, and was such a nice old fellow. He never married, so he kind of adopted us as family.
Thanks for whatever information you might find.
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« skrivet: 2006-10-09, 02:08 »
I found very few options when I searched the census, so I hope that Anita Karlsson is still watching this thread!
1) There is a 28 year old Emanuel Erickson (correct age)living in Grand Rapids, Kent County, MI on the 1910 census. The census says that he came in 1890, but the date of immigration is often incorrect. This Emanuel Erickson was living with Abbie L. Erickson, who was 22 years old. It says that she was a sister, but she was born in MI, not in Sweden. He worked in a furniture factory.
2) The same Emanuel Erickson (spelled Erikson on this census) was again listed in 1920, Kent County, Michigan, and was still living with Abbie Erickson and it says she was a sister. Also, it continues to say that he immigrated in the 1890s, not in 1902.
3) I searched the 1910 census for Grant Co., Minnesota (Norcross) and could not find the names of Erickson, Emanuelson, Engstrom, Person, Persson, or even the uncle August Olson. Sorry I could be of little help.
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« skrivet: 2006-10-08, 01:26 »
Did he have any other given name? I could not find an Emanuel Engstrom, even when I searched under given name only, using his birth country and his age as limiting factors in the search. I found an Emanuel Erickson, but he emigrated in the wrong year. Do you think he might have used another given name, and then I can search using all spellings of Emanuel and both surnames of Erikson/Erickson/Eriksson or Engstrom.
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« skrivet: 2006-10-05, 07:18 »
Thanks to both of you! Yes, you have found him for both his emigration and in the 1930 census. Now I have him placed in the 1880s and again in 1920 and 1930. I did find him listed in an 1890 Rockford, IL directory & got a copy of his naturalization papers. But between 1890 and 1920, he disappeared! You have been a great help.
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« skrivet: 2006-10-04, 19:26 »
I have begun to search for John A. F. Bloom in the U.S. census. He was born in Småland in 1865 (BLOM) and he emigrated in 1882, according to the 1920 U.S. Federal census for Los Angeles County, California. I cannot find him on any other census, although he might have lived in Rockford, IL (Winnebago County) until 1900 - where his brother, Oscar August, and his sister, Ida Matilda Blom settled. They changed their name to Bloom in the U.S. On the 1920 census, John Bloom was a widower and was living with his niece, Edith MacDowell (or MacDonnell) in LA County. Does anyone have access to Ancestry who would see if John A. Bloom continued to live in Los Angeles County, CA on the 1930 census? On his sister's 90th birthday in 1953, John was living in Lancaster, CA and was retired from Sundstrand Electric.
I have John Alfred Bloom's history in Småland and last month I visited the places where he had lived. However, I lost track of him once he emigrated and then left Rockford, IL. & ended up in LA County, CA. He died there on 10/18/1954 in LA County. Can anyone help?
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« skrivet: 2006-09-25, 15:37 »
There is also a Charles A. Engstrom, age 37 in 1920, living in West Chester County, NY, and he was a widower. He had two daughters living with him, Anna E. - age 7, and Grace - age 5. He emigrated in 1902, and he worked with the telegraph (I think), but I can't read the company. If this might be your ancestor, perhaps someone would look him up in the 1930 census, since I do not have access to that here at home.
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« skrivet: 2006-09-02, 02:32 »
He and Wilhelmina got married around 1902, and she had never had any children.
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« skrivet: 2006-09-02, 00:09 »
Because the first federal census that we have found him in was in Douglas County, MN, why not call the Douglas County historical society and see if they have anyone who would look up information about Paulus Paulson? Sometimes there are people who (for a fee) will look in their files and indexes, especially of deaths, to see if they can find when Lisa and the daughters died. Office Hours: 9-4PM phone: 320-762-0382 (according to the Douglas County Historical site at: http://www.rea-alp.com/~historic/ Or you can write a letter with exact information - see public research at that site. The site listed above gives the fee for their assistance at $15.00 for basic searches, which would include marriage records - so you can find out when he married Wilhelmina and when he lived in that area.
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« skrivet: 2006-09-01, 23:14 »
I will print them for you and mail and try to send them in an e-mail as an attachment. Are you on a DSL line, or dial-up? If you are using dial-up connection, then I should send them via snail mail.
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« skrivet: 2006-09-01, 12:14 »
I routinely go to the MN Historical Society when I visit my children, who all live in St. Paul. When I go there in October, I will try to find Paul Paulson's obituary from Kittson County. However, you might want to send me a reminder e-mail at the end of September, since I will be in Sweden for three weeks, and I forget all of my promises after a long vacation! My e-mail is: wmkelsey@sbcglobal.net
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-08-29, 02:00 »
The woman he lived with in 1900 is probably his wife in 1910. Wilhelmina is often shortened to Mina or Minnie. She was 36 on the 1900 census, and a widow. In 1910, Paulus's wife was 46 - so I think that the woman he was living with was the one he married. She had been married twice before. Paulus was a carpenter. In 1920 he moved to Hallock Village (Kittson County), Minnesota. Neither he nor Wilhelmina had any occupation listed in 1920. I do not have access to the 1930 census, so perhaps someone else will look that up for you. There is a listing in the MN death index for Paulus Paulson - died May 11, 1933 in Dodge County. If you find out that he moved to Dodge County, MN on the 1930 census, then this is probably your ancestor. You can order the death certificate on-line at this address: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Search.cfm?bhcp=1 Type in the last name, and then his first name, and enter. You'll find that the first listing is probably your ancestor. They'll take a credit card for the order. Then you can be certain if that is your person. An obituary, available at the MN Historical Society, might tell you what happened to his wife and children.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-25, 13:48 »
Hello Lisbeth! I will call that office today and find out what fee is involved, and if they want a self-addressed return envelope. I'll get the process started for you, and I will talk to you about it when I meet you in September in Sweden. Thanks, Chris, for finding this information. I obtained a copy of the MN death certificate for the above mentioned Anna L. Larson (that you discovered), and it was NOT Lisbeth's relative. Therefore, after scanning the censuses, I feel that the Anna Larson that you found in the naturalization database, must be Lisbeth's Anna Louisa.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-23, 12:04 »
Thanks for looking! She'll just be one of my lost ancestors.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-23, 01:02 »
Yes, my Anders Johan Svensson would have been 54 years old when he emigrated. His daughter was 14 when she left Sweden, but her name should have been Andersdotter or Anderson. Her brothers and sister took the name of Anderson in the states.
Thanks for this information. Now I know that the father arrived in New York.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-22, 12:42 »
In March of this year I found out (on this site) that my ancestor, Olof Adolf Johansson, born 26-March 1830 in Myckleby, Bohuslän, had listed his occupation as a sailor when he was married in April 1862 to Augusta Matilda Svensdotter from Hjartum, Bohuslän. The couple settled in Trollhätten, and later Olof Adolf listed his occupation as a worker.
When he was a sailor, would he have sailed on one of the large lakes - Vattern or Vanern? Was there a merchant fleet on those lakes? I assume that after he married and moved to Trollhätten, he worked in one of the water-powered industries that were in that area, and he gave up sailing.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-22, 12:24 »
I soon will visit Ljungby parish, Halland, where my Andersson ancestors lived (Kärret). The father, Anders Johan Svensson, and six of his children emigrated between 1887 and 1890. I have located three of them in U.S. censuses and archives, and I feel that they all went to Maywood, Illinois (Cook County) first. However, I have found no information about the father, Anders Johan Svensson or the youngest child, Emma Nathalia Andersdotter, who were the last to emigrate, in June 1890. I do not know the name of the ship on which they traveled. Is it possible that they died during their journey here? I do not have access to the Cook County voters records for the 1890s, so perhaps they would show up there, but the directories from Maywood - where the rest of the family settled - do not mention their names. The IL death index do not list them, and I do not have access to Ancestry's emigrant database. Castle Garden (Castle Clinton) lost its contract with the U.S. government to process immigrants in mid-1890, so by the time Anders Svensson and Emma Nathalia landed, they would have come through the Port of New York. Any idea of what ship they came on, and if they might have died during the journey??
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« skrivet: 2006-08-10, 17:09 »
I have ordered the 1916 death cert. for you, Lisbeth, in case this is your relative. If the other person (in the 1920 census) is your relative, then maybe I'll find more about her later.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-10, 17:01 »
If the above Anna Lovisa Larson is your relative, then she died in MN, not NY. That makes finding more about her easy, since the MN death index is on-line, and I go to the MN Historical Society frequently. One problem about this - she died in Hennepin County, which is west of Minneapolis. That means that an obituary will not provide much information - just a few lines. I will search for it the next time I'm there. Why don't you try the Växjö institute again, and search for Anna Louisa Larson in the Minneapolis (Medina township) Lutheran churches around 1920? I printed out the 1920 census that shows Anna Larson, age 63, living in Medina township of Hennepin County. I'll try to get a copy of the above-named death certificate, but I am unsure if it will arrive before we visit Halland.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-10, 03:17 »
I have searched the surnames of Larson, Larsson and Lawson, and searched by given names - Anna, Louisa, and Louise across the U.S. for 1900 - 1920. There was an Anna Lawson, a servant, in the 1900 census (New York) who was born in Sept 1855, rather than 1856, but the census said that she immigrated in 1875. There was also a listing for a Louise Lawson, 44 years old in 1900, from New Hampshire, Strafford Co (6-WD Rochester), but it was indexed incorrectly in HeritageQuest, and I could not view the census record. I will go to the library and see if I can view that record in Ancestry. Otherwise, I had no luck searching the 1920 census either. There was one listing for a 63 year old Anna Larson, a servant, in 1920 who lived in Hennepin County, MN. Her date of immigration was unknown, but it says that she was a widow - so Larson would have been her married name. I cannot find her in the Ellis Island database for 1893. Was she listed in anyone's will in Sweden, so there might be an address?
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« skrivet: 2006-08-09, 12:47 »
I will search the census under Louisa (or Louise) Larson this evening. I have a feeling that the NY census taker misspelled her last name on the 1910 census. That would explain why you did not find her on the 1900 census.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-08, 13:04 »
No, Lawson, is not a common name for Swedish immigrants to take. I am wondering if she continued to use Larson, but the census-taker in New York spelled it incorrectly. If she traveled to Sweden in 1893, she ought to be listed in the Ellis Island database, but I cannot find her. That should tell you what name she was using. There is a listing in HeritageQuest for an Anna Larson, age 63 (Jan. 1920), who lived in Hennepin county, Minnesota in 1920. She was a servant and listed her marital status as widowed. Hennepin county is Minnepolis. The date of immigration is UN - for unknown.
The problem with finding these servants is that their employer is filling out the census, and they often do not know much about their own employees. What does the 1910 census say about her year of immigration? My 1910 copy is too blurry to read.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-07, 23:46 »
Hi Lisbeth! Why do you think that Anna went to Minnesota? Are you sure that the Anna Lawson that you found in NY is the person you are looking for? The census imprint on Heritage is very hard to read, so that is why I was questioning it. Did she use Lawson as her name when she returned to Sweden for a visit?
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-08-04, 00:05 »
Thanks to both of you for your contributions. I have learned a lot, and together with what I already knew about my husband's relatives - who were dissenters from the Swed. state church - I understand how the immigrants formed and named their parishes. The site you gave me for history of the American EL churches is a good one, and I realize that the church I was confirmed in followed the same pattern: Swedish mission church, Swedish Lutheran church, 1st Lutheran church of Maywood (an Augustana synod church), then an LCA church, then an ELCA church.
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« skrivet: 2006-08-02, 23:33 »
Many of my ancestors' church records in the U.S. have been saved. Those that are from the late 19th century often say the name of the church was a Swedish mission church. Then, about 10 years later, they become a Swedish Lutheran Church. After that they might be named an Evangelical Covenant church, and by the 1930's they become a Lutheran church, such as the First Luth. Church of some little town.
What is the background of the original mission churches, and how long were they designated that way, rather than a Swedish Lutheran parish in America? I do not understand all of these name changes. If this question has already been dealt with on this site, just point me to the previous discussion.
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2006-07-26, 02:55 »
Many of the counties in the upper peninsula in Michigan have good historical and genealogical societies, so I hope you found the information that you wanted. Here is a genealogical society that deals with many of the upper peninsula counties: http://www.menomineemuseum.com/ This is the web address for an on-line naturalization database from Dickinson County, MI http://www.michigan.gov/hal/0,1607,7-160-17449_18635_20684-98802--,00.html Dickinson County was not created until the 1890s, so maybe these databases are not what you need.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-26, 02:42 »
Many of the counties in the upper peninsula in Michigan have good historical and genealogical societies, so I hope you found the information that you wanted. Here is a genealogical society that deals with many of the upper peninsula counties: http://www.menomineemuseum.com/ This is the web address for an on-line naturalization database from Dickinson County, MI http://www.michigan.gov/hal/0,1607,7-160-17449_18635_20684-98802--,00.html Dickinson County was not created until the 1890s, so maybe these databases are not what you need.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-25, 12:42 »
It is interesting to find that Swedish families often followed the same routes when they moved from state to state, or from town to town. Those little Michigan towns must have had many immigrants. The Larson family also had relatives who lived in Ishpeming, Ironwood, and Ewen.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-23, 21:51 »
Thanks for this information. Two of the Larsons worked as stone cutters or miners for awhile. The family says that one of the Larsons (must have been Eric Magnus) moved west, perhaps to find work in mines out there, after the upper peninsula mines closed.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-23, 17:27 »
Does anyone have ideas about how to find one of the Larsson emigrants who came to the U.S? I need a little help here. I have found all of the brothers except one: Erik Magnus Larsson, born 6-Jan. 1854 in Ånimskog (Dalsland), and emigrated 19-March 1882. I do not have access to Ancestry, so maybe that would help in my search? I discovered that an E. M. Larson filed his first papers for naturalization in Marquette County, MI (Ishpeming), but did not receive citizenship in that county. I have searched the 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses, and filtered the search by age and ethnicity in HeritageQuest. Eric Magnus' brothers also filed for citizenship in that county, and then moved on. I have tried to locate an on-line MI death index, but can't find one. Any ideas??
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« skrivet: 2006-07-23, 17:18 »
I have wondered how Swedish emigrants chose the areas where they would settle. As an example, the Larsson family from Ånimskog (question posted under emigrants on Jan. 17, 2006) emigrated in the early 1880s, and they all went to Ishpeming, Michigan. They did not stay there long, but moved to other areas soon after their arrival. The brothers filed their first requests for naturalization in Marquette County, MI (Ishpeming), but became citizens in other counties or states. There is no way to know what drew them to Ishpeming, but how did emigrants decide where they would settle - if they did not have other family members already in that area? Were there companies that recruited emigrants? Did shipping companies make contracts with small towns in the U.S.? Did newspaper advertisements advertise the shipping lines, or did they describe the states to which the emigrants could settle?
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« skrivet: 2006-07-20, 03:03 »
THANKS so much for this information. I assumed that this site was behind a fence! I have added your message to my itinerary, along with the phone number, and we will definitely see it. I really appreciate this suggestion!
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« skrivet: 2006-07-20, 02:58 »
I've been out of town, so that is why I have not responded. On the 1870 census from Cook County, IL, John Melcher is 18 years old. He was born 5-June 1852 in Skällvik, Östergötland, so in 1870 he would have been 18. His sister, Ottilia Charlotta, was born in Sweden on 30-Nov. 1861, so that would make her about 9 years old when the 1870 census was taken, which is what the census gives as her age. She was the family's Aunt Tillie. Johanna (Angla Maria Johanna Petronella Magisdotter) was born 19-June 1825, so that would make her 45 years old on the 1870 census - which is what it says. They lived in the 14th ward of Chicago on the 1870 census. This family can be found in 1880 too, but by 1900 both John M. and his sister, Ottilia, had married and moved to Maywood, Illinois. I am certain that this is my family, since I have relatives who remember their home and I have photos of them. Their emigration date was taken from the Swedish records, and there is a note in one family Bible about the father's death (Otto Peter Nelson) having occurred on June 4, 1869. I have not discovered the death date of Johanna Nelson, but it occurred sometime between the 1880 and the 1900 census. I do not have access to Ancestry, so I thank you for the ship information that you gave me! Maybe the ages of emigrants were recorded incorrectly in the ship registers?
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« skrivet: 2006-07-17, 13:58 »
To Ingela- Thanks for reminding me about Äskhult. We found it on our map and will check it out if we are there on a weekend. Otherwise, next year's trip will include that site, and we'll make sure that we arrive on a weekend - since that is when it is open - according to the website.
To Bo- Thanks for explaining the 1 mantal size of Ottersjö, in comparison to their torp holding. What you say makes sense.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-16, 04:17 »
Very interesting!! That explains why one person told me that the family came from a one mantal torp, and another said that Johan and Petronella and children had lived on a 1/4 mantal torp. I did not know that Johan Berndtsson's family may have moved, which explains the difference in the size of the land holding. I know that by the late 19th century, a family could exist on less than a one mantal size farm, but I had the distinct impression that my ancestors stayed in Sweden because they were not poor, and had no need to emigrate. Their daughter, Anna Josefina Johansdotter, did emigrate (my mormors mor), but she left when a neighbor from Dagsås no. 2 emigrated. No one else followed her, and she broke all ties with her Swedish family. That is why I am returning to Halland this year - to see if I can feel what life was like for Josefina before she emigrated.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-16, 04:02 »
Very nice map! Thanks so much.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-15, 12:40 »
Thanks! That is why his date of death was not long after they left Sweden. How did you find that information? Is it in a database that is written in Swedish, or is it available through the Castle Garden site?
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« skrivet: 2006-07-15, 00:14 »
I have gathered a lot of information about this family, and am writing a narrative to give to the descendents of Otto Peter Nilsson and Johanna Magnidotter Nilsson.
The 1870 Illinois (Cook County)census shows that Johanna and two of her three children lived on the near-west side of Chicago, in the 14th ward. Otto Peter had died in June 1869. This must have been directly after they arrived, since they did not leave Sweden until March 1869. There is no record of Ida Whilhelmina Ottosdotter (Nilsson) in the census records, so I assume that this baby died during their ocean voyage.
Is there any way to find what ship they were on, and were deaths aboard these ships reported to any authority?
Thanks in advance.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-15, 00:02 »
Thanks again! I added that photo to my history.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-14, 23:54 »
That would explain why he did not have a soldier name. One of the records says that he was a soldier, but I did not think about the difference between his required service and being a career soldier. Thanks for explaining this to me. Also, I thought that the family came from Dagsås #1 (Dalen), so I am wondering if Ottersjö no.1 is the same property. I know that Ottersjö is near Dagsås. I will be visiting that area on September 11 and 12, so maybe I can figure this out.
Nils died when he was only 23 years old. Life was uncertain back then!
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« skrivet: 2006-07-14, 12:52 »
Thanks so much! I will include that photo in my narrative.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-14, 02:50 »
I read that Skällvik was a parish in the municipality of Söderköping. When I go into the SweGGate site, under Sources, and then Pictures, I find one photo of Skällvik. It looks like there are ruins next to a house, and it sits along a river. Is that a photo of the ruins of the parish church?
One of my ancestors, Angla Maria Johanna Petronella Magnisdotter, was born 19-June 1825 in Skällvik. I try to include a photo of each parish into my historical narratives, and I will use that picture if those are the remains of the Skällvik parish.
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« skrivet: 2006-07-14, 02:30 »
I have found ancestors using the Central Soldiers Register, and also information on Hans Högman's site - with help from people on this forum. However, I do not know the soldier name of the ancestor I am studying now.
NAME: NILS JOHANSSON
BORN: 16-July 1876 in Dagsås parish, Halland. His father was Johan Berndtsson (b: 1-Dec 1833 in Vinberg parish), and his mother was Petronella Nilsdotter (b: 24-Sept 1834 in Rolfstorp parish)
According to records, his occupation was a soldier from 1897 to his death on 5-Dec 1899.
Is there any way that I can find out his soldier name or what regiment he may have joined?
Thanks for whatever help you can give.
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« skrivet: 2006-06-17, 12:40 »
Thanks, Olle. That site is good, and it lead me to other sources of information!
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« skrivet: 2006-06-15, 18:43 »
I am editing my family's letters from Sweden (the Ahlgrens from Gärdslöv parish, Skåne), which were translated by people I met on this site. In March 1892, one of the letters referred to social problems in Sweden. The English translation reads: There is such a bad feeling now among the people. Larsson the hunter and his wife had [to leave], and an agricultural laborer is now in their place. Yes, you can believe it that people are becoming socialists soon.  has enough to do trying to rule his people, and because of that they get to live as they rebel. On October 8, 1892, Nils Gustaf Ahlgren wrote the following: Here there is a shortage of workers. No one wants to work for allowances in kind. At Nygård the baron built fine houses for the statare, but they are mostly occupied by day-laborers, because [the workers] would rather go to the sugar-works [for employment]. And such [works] there are a lot. Everyone grows sugarbeets, and near Assartorp there is a [sugar-works that employs] 500 workers. And such things in addition to people going to America, will show the great people another lesson! You may laugh when you see a worker and an employer - the worker's attitude says, Don't come here [to Sweden] to work! Two years later, Gustaf Ahlgren wrote, everyone now has to plant sugar beets, regardless if one has a small or large piece of land. So sugar beet is planted above all else [and] Skåne is soon filled with sugar-beet factories... Women who are able to thin out beets get one kronor 25 öre per day, one liter of milk free, a free place to sleep, and as many potatoes as she can eat, so NOW THE WORKING CLASS, FOR ONCE, HOLDS THE TRUMPS! I am reading Kerstin Ekman's fiction, The Spring, and it refers to socialism and strikes, but the date is later - the first decade of the 20th century, and the place is further north. Did the socialist message, mentioned in my ancestor's letters from Skåne in the 1890s, become a growing force in Sweden after that date? Did southern Sweden become the cradle of socialism? And were the socialist ideas in the 1890s more of a pure Marxist message, and the workers' strikes from the early 20th century leading toward social democracy? I apologize for knowing so little about Swedish political history, but I am attempting to place my family's problems within the context of the overall historical situation.
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« skrivet: 2006-06-04, 02:20 »
Are you looing for his background in the U.S., or are you looking for his Swedish roots?
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« skrivet: 2006-05-27, 00:29 »
Hello Lisbeth! I found information about your Malmborg relatives awhile ago. It might be a lot of work, but if you go into the website switchboard.com you will find a list of Haights who live in the Portland, OR area. There are seven Haights who have their addresses listed, rather than just phone numbers. Make out a short form-letter and ask if they are descendents of Alma Haight and if they'd like to correspond with the Swedish family. Give your address and maybe you'll get a reply. You also could try the site random acts of genealogical kindness and see if someone would look up an obituary for Alma Haight, to see if any relatives were mentioned. I have also heard of people putting a notice in the personal section in local papers to ask about descendents of a relative, and asking for replies. Of course, do not give an address if you do that, but maybe you can set up a new e-mail account for replies. Just a long shot, but it might work. I am unsure how to find the old phone books, but perhaps a 2001 phone book from Portland, OR might give an address for Alma, and maybe she lived with a relative at that time. Maybe there is a Portland genealogy society that could help find her obituary and where she lived prior to her death.
By the way, I have a new e-mail address since I last corresponded with you.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-05-23, 00:34 »
I went to the MN Historical Society to see if I could find an obituary for Oscar Anderson. Unfortunately, they included no background information that told where he was born or emigrated from in Sweden. I will send this obituary to you in an e-mail.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-16, 23:24 »
Thanks for the discussion. I was not certain about the rules, and have refrained from quoting any current information except by using e-mails. I will continue with that practice.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-14, 23:07 »
What are the privacy rules concerning postings on this site? The U.S. census is not published for 70 years, which protects the privacy of those who are being studied. However, if I were to locate an obituary from the past 25 years, which might tell about people who are still alive, should that information be sent to someone in a personal e-mail, rather than posted on this forum? I am unsure if there are any rules that concern this topic.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-14, 13:39 »
Oscar lists his birth as being in Sweden, but the U.S. records do not say much. I will try to look up an obituary for him the next time I am in MN, since I often go to the MN Historical Society. Sometimes the obituaries tell where the person was born, and then you can get someone on this site to look things up in Gen-line.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-13, 06:00 »
Arthur John Anderson, their oldest son, was born 18-April 1893, and died on 26-July 1966 in Swift County, MN. The MN death record lists his mother's maiden name as Gordhammer. I did not find the daughter's birth listed in the MN birth index.
I hope this helps.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-13, 03:01 »
What type of information would you like? Norway Lake is in Kandiyohi County, MN. The MN historical society lists the death of a Carl Oscar Anderson, but the date they have says 1-Sept. 1953, not 1952. In the 1900 census (MN, Kandiyohi County), Oscar Anderson is listed as having a wife named Caroline M. Anderson. The MN death index shows the death of a Caroline M. Anderson on 4-Dec 1937 in that county - which is where Norway Lake is located. I did not find Oscar and Caroline on any census other than the 1900, so maybe someone else can search using Ancestry. They rented their farm in 1900, and it is possible that they moved away so they could buy their own property. Their sons names were Arthur (born 1893) and Martin W. (born 1897).
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« skrivet: 2006-05-05, 03:40 »
That is a good photo. Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2006-05-04, 17:40 »
Is there a photo of the Ånimskog church on the Internet? I did not find much when I used the site: http://www.svenskakyrkan.se/default.htm That PDF file, printed in Swedish, does not allow any enlargment or copying of the image. Thanks.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-04, 16:25 »
I studied this family because one of the emigrant's children married an ancestor of my Swedish friend. When I drove to the cemetery in Wisconsin, I realized that there was a story to be discovered. I wrote a short paper about the family and gave it to the small historical society in Grantsburg, Wisconsin (the town where they had lived and are buried), and sent a copy of the oldest son's military records to the Wisconsin state archives. I also sent a copy of the paper that I wrote to the archives, but I doubt that they would have kept something that was submitted by an independent, non-professional researcher. If you want a copy of this study, please send a note to my new e-mail account: wmkelsey@sbcglobal.net
I will be happy to print it and send it via snail mail. It has too many embedded photos to allow the document get through my anti-virus program if I were to send it via electronic mail.
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« skrivet: 2006-05-04, 15:49 »
Thanks, Judy!
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« skrivet: 2006-05-03, 17:20 »
I know where to find archaic English disease terminology, but where do I find the Swedish terms? The causes of death of two ancestors were Smittkoppor and nervfeber.
Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2006-04-23, 00:02 »
I found Charles Forsberg listed in both the 1860 and 1870 U.S. census (misspelled on both!), and he was a blacksmith. He must have learned his trade in Sweden, then set up a shop in Chicago. I am trying to find out how close that family lived to the Great Chicago Fire. In case any of you want to see where in Chicago any of your ancestors lived, you can look up the ward # on this site: http://www.alookatcook.com/ Click on the census you are interested in, then look at the ward number. At the top of the census imprint will give the ward number- example 17-WD, and Ancestry or Heritage have written it into their search engine. That is the ward number. Then you can look at the ward map and see the approximate area of the city that they lived in. Unfortunately, there is no on-line information about the 1860 census, but they do have 1870 on-line.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-22, 12:35 »
Thanks! I think you have found the correct person - all of you. As I understand what was written, he was born in Seglora parish and he moved away from Berget, Sandhem parish. His province of origin for both of those places was Västergötland. I'll look up those locations on a map when I get off of work today. Thanks to ALL of you!
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-04-22, 01:34 »
I am writing the Kelsey (Källström) family history, and now I am studying Christina Lovisa Källstrom. She emigarted in 1846, lived in Chicago, and married Carl Fredrik Forsberg sometime around 1857. Chuck Maki was kind enough to research the church records for Immanuel Lutheran Church for me, and this is what was learned: Christina Lovisa Källström married Carl Fredrik Forsberg. He was born in the Seglora Parish on April 23, 1823 (or 1825). One of my notes has his birth date as 1823, and another says 1825. According to the records, he emigrated from Sandhera in 1852, but I cannot find any reference to that place on any map.
I have two questions:
1) Is Seglora parish church the same one that is now part of the Skansen folk park near Stockholm? Or was there more than one Seglora parish in Sweden in the 1820s?
2) Is it possible to find a little information about Carl Fredrik Forsberg? Are there emigration records available for the early 1850s? He emigrated so long ago! He and Louisa raised their family in Chicago when the city was growing very fast. They witnessed the Great Chicago Fire of 1871, and the census documents indicate that they lived near the north edge of the burned-out district. This family experienced so much!
Thanks for whatever information you can find. I could never have written this history without help from friends at this forum.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-20, 17:14 »
Thanks! That explains why Eric Wallander left the U.S. and went to Mexico to find work, before he settled down and got married. He worked in Mexico for awhile, then came back to the U.S. and married one of my ancestors. I will try to find these people in the U.S. census and see if I can discover where his other family members ended up. This information has been very helpful.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-20, 14:20 »
Thanks! Is there any way to see when he emigrated? The Ellis Island database only lists his trip in 1913, but the manifest says that he had been in the U.S. twice before that. I think it says 1905 and 1908, and he had been in Chicago. The 1913 entry says that his destination was New York.
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2006-04-20, 02:57 »
Could someone look at emigration records and see if Eric W.Wallander (or Wallender), born around 1888, can be found? He emigrated from a farm on Öland Island in the early 20th century. His daughter is 80 years old, and she wants to learn about her father's life in Sweden. The 1920 census says that Eric emigrated in 1914, but his daughter said that he came here before that, then returned twice to Sweden. On one of his return trips he joined the Swedish military, but decided to return to the U.S. after serving his duty. He became a machinist, and he took an advanced course while on one of his trips to Sweden. If this is not enough information, I will call my old friend and see what else she knows about her father. Thanks for whatever information you can give this lady!
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« skrivet: 2006-04-13, 12:39 »
In 1920 (U.S. census) there is a Lillie Oscarson, age 22, living in Minneapolis and working as a maid at 2011 Kenwood Parkway. It says that she emigrated in 1917, so that must be Lilly Natalia. Her occupation is listed as a home servant in a private home.
Also in 1920 there is a Signe M. Oscarson, age 20, working as a maid for Robert and Mary Campbell at 1618 Emerson Avenue. It says that Signe came in 1916 and was a servant for a private family.
I do not think that there is a Minnesota marriage index on-line. Maybe someone would look up the 1930 census to see if the Oscarson girls are still unmarried and living in Minnesota under their maiden names. I do not have the 1930 census here at home.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-13, 00:56 »
I found one Rudolph Oscarson in the 1910 census, age 26, a hired man on a farm, living in Cass County, ND. I did not find many Oscarsons living in Minnesota on that census. Also, the 1920 census that was mentioned above (James G. Oscarson, living in Meeker Co, MN) lists an uncle living with him - John E. Johnson, 74 years old, who came to the U.S. in 1869. Is that person from your family? If so, the Oscarsons must have gone to No. Dakota as farmers, and then moved on.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-08, 12:41 »
I'll make a note about that. Carl came to the U.S. at the age of 48, so his career may only have been as a soldier before his emigration. I do not think there is a way to look at his record to see how long he had been a soldier. The family said that Carl had been a shoemaker for the king, but I am sure that was a fabricated story. I do not think that any king would travel to the area of Österunda parish to have shoes made! Some strange stories get passed down here in America. My father's family said that their Ahlgren grandmother (Gärdslov, Skåne)sewed clothes for the queen. I always wonder how these stories get started, and then they are passed down in informal family histories, so the next generation repeats them. I guess everyone wants to think that their ancestors had some claim to fame.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-07, 12:45 »
This was more complete than the information I had. I did not know that Carl had been a rättare before he became a soldier, that their first child had been born in Torstuna, or that he had taken a different name when he was a shoemaker. I knew he had been a shoemaker somewhere because he taught his oldest son the skill, and it helped the children survive after their parents died.
Thank you so much!
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« skrivet: 2006-04-07, 02:49 »
I have a numbered list of passengers from the Charlotte which tells about Carl, Stina and their children, along with those they traveled with. This list of names is annotated, with some personal data, so I think that I have copies of the information you are referring to. It was sent to me by a historian who was studying the Jassonists who came to Chicago and Bishop Hill in 1846. Thanks for thinking of me!
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« skrivet: 2006-04-07, 00:53 »
Thanks, Ingela! I will write to the archive.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-04-06, 20:14 »
I am writing the Kelsey (Källström) family history, and I found that there is a letter written by our ancestor in an archive, but I do not know how to locate that archive or letter. I discovered this fact in Ulf Beijbom's article Swedes in Chicago, A Demographic and Social Study of the 1846-1880 Immigration. I do not have the entire article, but I do have this information:
STUDIA HISTORICA UPSALIENSIA XXXVIII
CHICAGO HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Läromedelsförlagen
On page 44 there is a footnote that reads: Carl Källström died Feb. 7, 1847 in Chicago according TO A LETTER FROM HIS WIFE ON March 4, 1848 (Anna Lindewall's Collection).
I would like to obtain a copy of that letter, since it was written by our family's ancestor, Stina Olsdotter Kelsey. Who is Anna Lindewall, and how do I find that collection? Is there a database that indexes these collections of letters? I do not know where Beijbom teaches, or if the letter that he has footnoted resides here in the U.S. or in Sweden. Thanks for whatever help you can give me.
Karen
Chicago
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« skrivet: 2006-04-05, 18:02 »
By the way, Alfred Swanson, Minnie's first husband, was born in the Dakota Territory in 1869 or 1870. He was listed as the son of Nels P. and Mary Swanson, both from Sweden.
Another daughter was born to the Swedburgs - Fern Swedburg, born 6-Feb 1903 to Minnie Olson and Fred Swedburg.
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« skrivet: 2006-04-05, 17:35 »
The 1900 census for Clay county, SD shows that Fred Swedburg's wife had been married previously, since the step-daughter's last name was Swanson. Also, the column that asks for how long the couple had been married says 0 - which means that Fred and Minnie had not been married an entire year, and Minnie's 3 year old daughter from her first marriage lived with them. If Minnie had been left a widow, then there ought to be a listing for the death of Alfred John Swanson - if SD has a death database available on-line. If Edna had been born out-of-wedlock, then she should have had her mother's maiden name, since that is the usual naming practice in the U.S.
Directly next to Peter, Lydia and Ida Olson, lived another Olson family - Daniel Olson, born Dec. 1849 in Sweden. I cannot read the year of his emigration, so maybe he is related to Peter? My Heritage census imprints are sometimes hard to read. If you want copies from these various censuses, I can easily mail them to you, since I live in the Chicago area.
I looked at the Bureau of Land Management for a land patent search on the last name of Olson or Olsen, to see if Peter filed a homestead claim. No one is listed as Peter OlsOn, but there are a number of homestead filings for a Peter OLSEN, and they are in Clay County, SD. The first land claims were filed in March 1873 (Clay county, sections 3 & 4, Township 92N range 53W), and the second in 1878 (Clay county, sections 10 & 11, Twsh 92N range 53W). In the rectangular survey system section 10 is located directly south of and contiguous to section 3, so all of these pieces of property might be next to each other. Each claim was for 160 acres total, so he ended up with 320 acres - a lot of land. There is no way to know for sure if this was your ancestor, but there is a good chance that he was a homesteader, and that Peter stayed on the land long enough to prove up, and then he sold and moved on. There was no document image attached to this file, so I cannot show you his signature on the land deed. South Dakota did not become a state until 1889, but the land was opened to development after 1861, when the Dakota Territory was created by Congress.
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« skrivet: 2006-03-31, 02:44 »
Thank you, Ingela, for such a thorough answer, one which is very understandable. It was kind of you to spend so much time in giving me the details. I printed it out, and will keep your answer with our family history, since the Kelseys (Källstroms) came from Västmanland and were part of both the läsare and the Jänssonist movements.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-03-30, 00:45 »
I am curious about the läsare movement in 19th century Sweden, which was referred to in Elmen's Wheat Flour Messiah. In the beginning of the book the author said that the läsare were lay readers who were encouraged by the more evangelical clergy, and they met in small groups in homes to study the Bible. I assumed that this movement took place all over Sweden, but in a later chapter, it said that the läsare were strong in Forsa and Delsbo... in Alfta, Bollnäs, Söderala, & Voxna ... and in Österunda & Torstuna, Uppland..
Did this läsare movement happen all over Sweden and was particularly stong in the north? Was it a movement of poorly educated, lower class rural people from all over, people who felt that the established church was out of touch? Or were there reasons that both läsare meetings and the Janssonist impulse would have taken root in the Västmanland & Hälsingland areas? Elmen says that poverty and poor crops contributed to social unrest, but the economic problems would have happened all over Sweden. How long did this läsare movement last, and did it force any changes upon the established church?
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« skrivet: 2006-03-28, 01:36 »
Yes, Jan, Judy and Regina - You all have found the family! Jan- the entry for Karl August Olsson is correct. He was the brother of Johan Fredrick, so he would not be seen in the household inventory for Karl. Regina- you found the correct household census, and Judy - you found the correct family. I do not know about Anna Matilda's emigration information, since I think that she used the last name of Karlsdotter/Carlson. She married a Wallender, but I think she married here in the states. THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION!!! Now, when I travel through Trollhatten this September, I will know that I am in the town where my morfars far came from, although I know it is impossible to understand what life was like back then.
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« skrivet: 2006-03-27, 19:53 »
I called an elderly relative whose mother was from that family - and she says that the person you found must be incorrect. Johan Fredrick Olsson (known to the family as Fredrick Johan) was a brother to Carl Olsson, and they were from the Trollhatten area. John Fredrick Olsson emigrated, but his brother, Carl Olsson did not emigrate. Carl had 11 children in Sweden, and his oldest child was Anna Matilda Carlsdotter (born around 1886). Anna Matilda emigrated, so that is the connection between my morfars far and the lady who knows about the family, since she is the daughter of Anna Matilda Carlsdotter. I will try to get more information. Thanks for your search!
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« skrivet: 2006-03-27, 19:20 »
Wow, a great site to learn about! Thanks. The inflammation of the bowels was from an autopsy I think. That victim's daughter is still alive, so I'll ask if she knows. She is 93 years old and continues to study genealogy and sends out information and old photos.
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« skrivet: 2006-03-27, 17:39 »
In researching the causes of death of my Swedish immigrant ancestors, there are two terms that I do not understand. Both are listed on American death certificates:
- erysipelas
- inflammation of the bowels
What disease is erysipelas, and could inflammation of the bowels be an attack of appendicitis?
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2006-03-27, 14:15 »
Thanks for the information! I will call the lady who seems to know a little about the family and see what she says.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-03-27, 03:24 »
I found out a few more details about John Olsson from a distant relative: His brother's name was Carl Olsson, and Anna Matilda might have been his sister. Not much to go on, but it might make a difference.
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« skrivet: 2006-03-27, 03:05 »
I have discovered most of my ancestors with help I have received from this site. I try to have as much information as possible before asking a question. However, I do not know where to find the details that are needed because my morfars far had such a common name. Here is what I learned from his obituary:
JOHN FREDRICK OLSON
Born 18-Feb. 1866 in Trollhatten, Sweden
Immigrated in 1888 to Chicago, IL
Religion: Lutheran, funeral at St. Marks Swedish Lutheran Church in Maywood, IL (Cook County), and had been a member of Lutheran churches in Chicago - St. Austin Lutheran (Austin Messiah) and also in Rice, MN (Benton County) - where he had a farm.
I have his citizenship documents, but not his application for naturalization, so these papers have no information about his background in Sweden. His name was so common that I could not locate his application for naturalization. His death certificate did not list his parents' names.
How many John Fredrick Olssons emigrated from Trollhatten in 1888? Will it be impossible for me to learn more about him, since I know so little about his background? If I cannot find anything from emigration records, then I will drive to Augustana College and learn how to use the church archives - which might be fun!
Thanks for anything that you can tell me.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-03-16, 14:14 »
There is a listing for an Anders P. Johnson, age 42,living in Chicago on the 1900 census. He was born in June 1858, and was living with two daughters, Edith S. Johnson (born June 1894 in Illinois) and Ruth S. (born Feb. 1897 in Illinois). His wife was dead. However, it says that he emigrated in 1881, so this must be a different Anders Johnson! He also lived with his father-in-law, Chas. Juliin, who was 65 years old. This Anders was a stone mason, and his father-in-law was a butter maker.
If this might be your family, I will print out the census and scan it next Monday - after I get home from a short vacation.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-20, 03:05 »
I was wrong. In 1910 he had been married 5 years and he had four children, Charles (4), Margaret (3), Eva (2), and John (11 month).
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« skrivet: 2006-02-20, 02:46 »
I think your ancestor settled in New York - Nassau County, Oyster Bay. In 1910 there is a listing for a Charles Newquist, age 40 years old, in Oyster Bay, Nassau County, New York. It looks like his year of immigration was 1890, but that is often quoted incorrectly - depending upon who is answering the census. He is married and has five children, and he works as a wagon driver of an ice wagon. The same man shows up in the 1920 census for NY (same county), and on that census it looks like his year of immigration was 1891. He was a laborer at that time. I did find him in the 1900 census (spelled as Nawquist by the search engine), and he was 30 years old in 1900, living in New York state, Nassau County, Oyster Bay, but I cannot get the imprint to load. Maybe someone else can look it up for you. Also, I have no access to the 1930 census, so someone else will have to do that one too. Do you want copies of these census imprints? They give the names of the children and wife. His wife was German.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-20, 01:53 »
Yes, I would love to have a copy of the letter, and I will send an e-mail to you. Also, I thank you for this information, which is the same conclusion that I had reached after scanning the 1850 census. I know that the three sons were in Stark and Henry counties by 1852, but I do not think that they lived at the colony. Instead, they lived near people who helped John Olif set up a shoe repair shop - probably in Stark Co (a man named Reed, according to family history. After his marriage, Julius farmed in Henry County, but I have not done a study to see how close his farm was to the BH Colony.
Did you find exactly where the Källströms lived in Sweden? I know the town and parish, but not the farm number - if they were on a farm. I assumed that they lived in the soldier croft that was in the town center, since Karl had been a soldier paid by the rote system.
Thanks for answering. I know that the Kelsey family felt that the sons went to BH, but I could find no evidence of that.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-17, 12:33 »
I cannot read Swedish, but it is good to know that graduate students in your country often focus upon the questions of local history - similar to our studies here in the U.S. This topic interested me because I felt that there had to be a narrative from the Swedish point of view, that told about the problems that the Janssonists caused. Grad students here often focus upon local disturbances as an indication of a greater social ferment.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-15, 23:26 »
Very interesting! I have printed this and will keep it with my information about Sweden. Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-15, 23:23 »
I got very confused, and I apologize. Yes, you are correct - the translation did include my own family. I have printed this and now understand. Thanks so much!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-15, 23:21 »
Thanks to both of you for your responses. Elisabeth, my favorite Swedish restaurant is located across from the North Park campus, so I will stop at the library and look at the index for those journals. Chris, thanks for sharing those details about the Janssonists. It makes me understand the problems that they had - and that they created.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-02-15, 12:51 »
I thank you for translating the former entry. I do not think that this Lennberg has any connection with my own Lennberg, which is spelled two ways in the Swed. records: Lemberg and Lennberg. It is spelled two ways here in the U.S. too! However, I thank you for translating the original entry - that was very thoughtful.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-15, 12:45 »
Thanks for the information. Yes, I am sure that there is a Swedish side to this persecution story, but I may never learn about it! Too bad. Certainly, the narrative from Sweden would be quite interesting.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-14, 23:25 »
As I studied Bishop Hill, the utopian colony established by Erik Jansson in western Illinois in the mid-1840s, I read that the followers of Jansson had caused some trouble in Sweden prior to their emigration. They believed that the Bible was the only true book, and that there should be no adornment in churches, and they rejected the established church of Sweden. It was hinted that those who sided with Jansson may have burned books and caused destruction to churches. I know that Erik Jansson had been imprisoned prior to 1846. Have any local historians from the Västmanland and Uppland areas done studies about the social disturbances that arose due to religious controversy? I was curious about what the dissenters actually did to make themselves so unpopular. I have only read the American version of their story - that they felt persecuted, but I wonder what the Swedish side of the issue is! I do not know Swedish, so I could not post this question on the Swedish side.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-14, 23:15 »
I like that story, Chuck! Back to the grenadier issue. Being a grenadier must have given a bit of status, since the 1890 census lists Karl Jedin with his grenadier title preceding his name. It was a title, rather than just an occupation. I enjoy finding hints of social class and status in Swedish society.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-14, 02:32 »
Thanks again!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-13, 20:50 »
I have a few more questions. Karl Källström's oldest son, Karl Erik Jedin, was a soldier in the Livregementets grenadjärer in the Östra Vestmanlands Komp., Torstuna parish. What did these grenadier units do after the 1850s? Were they considered to be elite, highly trained soldiers who were not from the allotment system? Did they continue to wear special uniforms?
It is interesting that two of Karl Källstrom's younger sons, Augustus (Gustaf) and Julius, fought on the Union side in the American Civil War. A family of soldiers!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-13, 00:12 »
Thanks so much!
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-02-12, 01:34 »
Could someone help me find information on Hans Högman's site, concerning a military question. I'd like to find a typical uniform that a soldier from Västmandland might have worn in the 1840s. My ancestor, Karl Källstrom, who emigrated in 1846, was a soldier with the Västmanlands regemente, SALBERGS KOMPANI, Parish: Österunda File: Syllby, according to the Central Soldiers Register.
Much of the information on the Högman site is in Swedish. Could someone help me find a typical type of uniform that Karl Källstrom might have worn? Would he have been paid by the allotment system? What type of duties did soldiers do in the early 1840s? Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-08, 14:50 »
No, I cannot read Swedish. I wish I could!
Karen
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« skrivet: 2006-02-07, 20:57 »
Thank you so much! I have learned a lot about this family and will use the information in my family history.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-07, 18:51 »
After Peter Judin died, Christine went back to listing her last name as Erickson on the 1910 census. Wow, these Swedes are hard to follow! In 1910, Christine said that she was a farmer, and that her son, Victor, was a farm laborer on her farm. She had Nina and Lawrence living with her. Nina must have been Annie on the previous census, because she was 15 years old. However, Christine had lost THREE of her children. She said that she had had 10 children, but only 7 were alive. So between 1900 and 1910 she lost her husband and three children. According to the MN death index, Andrew Judin had died 17-Jan 1910 in Isanti County. Peter Judin, the oldest son, still had his farm in 1910. His partner was on the next farm, and both men had gotten married. Peter's wife's name was Anna (nee Jacobson), and they had a son, Kermit. This explains why the MN death index has a listing for the death of a Kermit Judin in 1972. Peter Judin died in 1950, and Victor Judin died in 1945. In 1920 there were still a number of Judins who show up in MN: Nina A. -25 years old, Lawrence A. -23, Victor -36, Peter -41. In 1920, Peter and his wife still had only one son. Lawrence became a teacher and married Evelyn (no children in 1920). In 1920 Christine Erickson was still alive, and lived with her daughter, Nina and a grandchild, LaVerne Judin, age 4. Christine died on 4-Feb 1931, and her death cert. is listed as Christine Erickson (Judin). It looks like the family stayed in that county - if you search the death certs under the maiden name of Judin, you find three listed in the 1980s. Victor Judin lived in MN in 1920, and was a farmer. His wife was Istele, and they had two young daughters. Enough information??
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« skrivet: 2006-02-07, 17:10 »
There was also a 7 year old son named William who lived with them. I forgot him!
In the same county there was another person with the last name of Judin - Peter Judin, age 22. He was a farmer, was not married, and was a partner on a farm with someone else. It looks like his birthday was May 1878, and he had been born in Sweden, so he was probably the son that they brought with to America. It said that he had immigrated in 1880, and he was an alien, which means that he had not applied for citizenship. However, his parents, Peter and Christine Judin, had become citizens by 1900. I may have found the other missing child, Andrew Judin, age 19. His lived in the same county and was a servant on a farm that was owned by another family from Sweden. Andrew had been born in MN.
Did the Judins come with any other relatives? There was another Judin listed on the 1900 census in the same county: Justina Judin, age 59, who had come to this country with her son in 1888. The son's name seems to be Andrew, and he was 20 years old in 1900. It looks like ths son's birthdate says Dec. 1879, but I can't read her birthdate. However, they came 8 years after the first Judin family came. Actually, the first Andrew that I told you about might be the same one as directly above. If a person was a servant, they were often listed twice - once at the farm where they worked, and another time at the home where they lived. The two Andrews were listed on contiguous pages, which means that the servant, Andrew, lived only a few farms away from Justina and the son named Andrew! Justina Judin had a child living with her named Elvira Anderson, who was only 1 year old and had been born in MN in Dec. 1898. She was listed as a ward. That might mean that one of her children (she had had 8, but only 2 were alive) had died, and she was raising the little daughter. Elvira's parents had been born in Sweden, but she was born in MN.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-07, 13:32 »
Karin, I found Peter in the 1900 census. The search engine I use listed him as Peter E. Jadin, but his last name was spelled Judin. Peter Judin, age 55, birth Nov. 1844, married for 24 years, a farmer in Isanti County, MN WIFE: Christine Judin, born June 1859 in Sweden. Both emigrated in 1880. She had 10 children, and all 10 were alive in 1900. Eight were living with them at the time: Victor -17, Eric -15, Christine -13, Helen -11, Vinna (?)-9, Annie -5, Lawrence -3. If you want imprints of this census and imprints of censuses where the children moved to - those that I can identify - write me an e-mail, and I will send them as uploads. It will take up too much space to put them into this forum. It looks like many of them stayed in MN because the MN death index lists some Judins - which is not a common name. There are 6 Judin death certificates available via the MN Historical Society, but I don't know if they are all your family: Andrew, Anna, Estella, Kermit, Peter, Victor. All died in Isanti county except for Victor, who died in clearwater county, MN. The on-line death index does not include years prior to 1905, and it misses some in 1907. This is the web address: http://people.mnhs.org/dci/Search.cfm You give a credit card number, and they send you a copy. If you keep my e-mail address, I can try to find an obituary for Peter Judin, since you know his date of death. I go to MN frequently, and my daughter lives walking distance from the MN Historical society, where they keep many county's old newspapers on microfilm.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-06, 23:44 »
Thanks to help from this forum, I have found that the name of my ancestor was ANIAN LEOPOLD LEMBERG, according to church records. He was born in Skenninge on 14-Nov 1822, and arrived in the U.S. in 1852. He married Johanna Andersdotter, born in Sweden 2-April 1822, but I am unsure where she came from. They married here in the U.S., and she had come here before Anian Leopold. The family spelled the named LENNBERG on their death certificates, but it is clearly listed as Lemberg on the early church records. Is there any hope of finding information about Anian Leopold Lemberg in the emigration records? Also, I have been told that there is more than one Skenninge. Would this be from Ostergotland?
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« skrivet: 2006-02-06, 23:24 »
A copy of the church record for Immanuel Lutheran church in Chicago arrived today - via snail mail. Thanks, Chuck, for this copy. I never would have found Christina Lovisa Kjellström without your search of the church records. Her brothers used the names Källström and Kelsey, but she continued using Kjellström. Now I know about her marriage and her five children, and I have located them in the 1870, 1880, and 1900 censuses so far. By 1880, Christina was a widow with the 5 children, and worked as a washerwoman. Some immigrants had such hard lives!
Thanks again!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-03, 01:25 »
Here is another question. I cannot find the above-named Forsberg family in any of the late 19th century censuses, but I use HeritageQuest, which does not do soundex searches. Could someone look for the Forsberg family using the Ancestry search engine?? Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2006-02-03, 01:03 »
Christina Lovisa Kjellström (or Källström or Kelsey) is the one child that I had been unable to trace. I had found all three of the Källström's sons, but not Christina. Thank you so much for finding the missing daughter! And thanks to everyone else who has filled in the details about their emigration. Some of that information was sent in a different part of the forum - under the history section.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-28, 23:42 »
Thanks so much, Elisabeth. I am sure that the family was acquainted with followers of Erik Jansson through their Methodist faith, both in Sweden and here. I think that the four children grew up in Stark county, near Bishop Hill. John Olif told his children that a man named Reed helped him set up in a shoemaking business, and there were two shoemakers named Reed in Stark County. They all married in Stark County, not Henry County.
In a previous discussion, Jöran Johansson cited a quote that told about settlers who had stayed in Chicago: In 1880 there was a book published in Chicago, Svenskarne i Illinois - historiska anteckningar (The Swedes in Illinois - historical notes). The text is in Swedish and there are a lot of misspellings and misunderstandings, but I think most of the information may be correct.
At page 234 it said that Oct 3, 1846 there was a large number of immigrants, all from Västmanland, arriving at Chicago. They had intended to go to Bishop Hill, but in Chicago they changed their mind and stayed. Among them were Anders Larson, Jan Janson (brother to Erick Janson, the founder of Bishop Hill), John P. Källman (Chalman), Pehr Erson, Peter Hessling, A. Thorsell and a man named Kjellström. All of them were living together the first time in a house at Illinois Str, between Dearbon Str and State Str.
Thereafter some notes are made about a few of them, but Kjellström isn't mentioned anymore.
So between your research, and the quote that Jöran found, I feel certain that the family did not live at the colony.
And yes, many immigrants came to the U.S. but decided not to live in the primitive homes at Bishop Hill in 1846. I feel that the Källströms came with the Janssonists, but did not live there. They were entered as original settlers because of the work of Robert Nelson, who referred to Olsson's Passenger Arrivals in NY. I appreciate that you took time to look this up for the Kelsey family.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-28, 01:25 »
I have received much needed information about this family from this site. Now I am trying to learn why they were listed as original settlers at the Bishop Hill colony. They were Methodists, and Augustus married into a prominent Methodist family with strong ties to Jonus Hedstrom, and also to the anti-slavery movement. Those facts make it possible that the Källströms were dissenters from the Swed. Lutheran church. Bishop Hill experienced many deaths from Asiatic Cholera, and both of the Källström parents died of that disease in Chicago, so they might have spent time at the colony or with other dissenters who carried the disease. All three sons married in Stark County, IL, which is contiguous to Henry County, where Bishop Hill was located.
**EMIGRATION DATE: MAY 25, 1846, but I do not know when they arrived in NY.
--CARL CHRISTOFFER ERSSON KÄLLSTRÖM Born: 4-Aug 1798 in Lundby, Tillinge Parish, Uppsala Län. He was a soldier and a shoemaker.
--STINA OLSDOTTER Born: 7-Aug (or 7-May) 1796 in Torstuna, Uppsala Län
---JAN OLOF (or John Olif) CARLSSON [KÄLLSTRÖM]
Born: 3-Feb 1832 in Syllby, Österunda Parish, Västmanland län
---AUGUSTUS (GUSTAF) A. CARLSSON [KÄLLSTRÖM]
Born: 12-Mar 1834 in Syllby, Österunda parish
---CHRISTINA LOVISA CARLSDOTTER [KÄLLSTRÖM]
Born: 4-April 1837 in Syllby, Österunda Parish, Västmanland län
---JULIUS CARLSSON [KÄLLSTRÖM] Born: 20-Nov 1840 in Syllby, Österunda Parish, Västmanland län
Thanks for looking for them in Dr. Olsson's book!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-27, 21:06 »
In the 1840s there were many Swedes who came to the U.S. in search of religious freedom. Many of them settled at the Bishop Hill colony in western Illinois, which was established by Erik Jansson. I have searched the 1850 U.S. Federal census to see if I can find names of the Bishop Hill residents at that date, but only a few are listed. However, on the Internet can be found a surname list of original settlers of Bishop Hill, which was researched by Robert Nelson. Since I cannot find my own ancestors in the 1850 census for Henry County, and yet they are listed as original settlers of Bishop Hill, is there a chance that the information came from Olsson's book of Passenger Arrivals in NY 1820-50?? Does this book list the surnames of the passengers and their destinations, or their reason for leaving Sweden? If so, perhaps the Kelseys (Källström) got listed as settlers because of immigration records, rather than any actual census documentation. What does that book include? Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-27, 20:45 »
I searched again, using the Ancestry search engine, but could find no further information. Sorry!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-27, 20:26 »
I searched for draft registration cards and I came up with one that might fit your Johnson brothers. It is the draft registration card for a Carl August Johnson, born 27-June 1886 in Sweden. You Carl August was born 25- June, so perhaps this is not the correct person. Otherwise, I could not locate either of the brothers in the 1930 census. 
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« skrivet: 2006-01-19, 12:45 »
After I get home from work I will try to find Oscar in the 1900 census. I spent a few minutes looking, but could not find anyone in MN with the last name of Odenkranz, Odincranz, etc. I can search by first name, but it will take awhile. Also, I'll go into the MN death index and see if his death registration tells me how he spelled his name. I used HeritageQuest, and that is searches by exact spelling, not by soundex.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-17, 00:06 »
Thanks so much! The information I have gotten has filled in many of the gaps in our knowledge of the family, and we can now search for the other Larsson emigrants who came to the U.S.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 21:35 »
Thank you so much, Judy! I will call one of the Larson descendents and take her to lunch tomorrow. She will be thrilled with all of the information that I have learned from this site, and she can help me to identify the photos that I have inherited. Everyone has been so helpful with this search!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 16:17 »
I will do more searching for you when I get to the library - which has a fast connection and an Ancestry subscription. I will try to find their WWI draft registrations, which will tell us where they lived in 1918, and I will look in the 1920 and 1930 census to see if they moved to Chicago. Looking at Chgo. death records would not tell us much, since there is no way to tell how old the person was at the time of death, unless you file to get a copy of each one. There are five Carl August Johnsons listed in Chicago's on-line death index! The brothers might have stayed in Milwaukee, but the Heritage search engine did not pick them up, so I might find them in the future using Ancestry - which I do not have here at home. Maybe someone reading this site could search for their WWI draft registrations?
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 13:57 »
Thanks so much! I think that the Carl John that she came with was the brother listed above as simply John. Her brother Nels was Nils Fredrik and her brother Alex was Alexander. I will search to see if any of the others came to the U.S. too.
I felt that the guess at the town/parish [in which she was born] was correct because the Swedish å makes a long O sound in English. It is nice to know about her, since I all I have inherited was a box of photos with some identifications on the back.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 03:45 »
I found a photo of Mary Olson (maiden name = Larson), and she was with Charles Larsson. He probably was her brother, so the Carl that she traveled with must have taken the name of Charles when he came to the U.S.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 02:14 »
I will send a copy of the 1910 census to your e-mail address as an attachment. I can't seem to find these brothers in other censuses because they must have moved, and they have very common names.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 00:54 »
I think that you have found the correct person. Is there any way to look at a census and see if she had a number of brothers? I believe that the entire family came here and settled in Minnesota. Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-16, 00:51 »
Yes, the Johnson brothers lived on Hanover Street in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on the 1910 census, although the number of the house was a little different. They were roomers in a house at 568 Hanover Street. Axel G. Johnson was 27 years old, a roomer, said that he and his parents were born in Sweden, and he worked as a moulder at a foundry. Carl Johnson was 24 and was listed as a roomer in the same house. He said that he was a machinist at a machine shop. Axel's year of immigration was listed incorrectly, since it said 1907, rather than 1902. His naturalization status was PA - pending application. Carl came in 1905, and he also was pending application for citizenship. Neither of them were married in 1910
Now I'll see if I can find them in other censuses.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-15, 02:31 »
I searched again, this time using the correct age range and searching in PA, but no luck with the 1880 or 1900 census. Too bad he has such a common name!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-15, 02:12 »
I am searching for my morfars family. If I do not have enough information, then I will keep looking for obituaries. Here are the siblings who emigrated:
MARY LARSON Date of birth: 20-Feb 1864
date of emigration: prior to 1890
AXEL LARSON Date of birth: March 1857
date of emigration: 1882 (or 1881)- according to the census
NELS LARSON Date of birth: Sept. 1861
date of emigration: 1881 according to the census
The only obituary that I have found is that of Mary. It says that she was born in Onimskåg, Sweden. The Larson boys were farmers and they each took a farm in Benton County, MN. Mary married and moved to Chicago, but returned to a MN farm in the 1920s.
Does anyone recognize where Onimskåg is, or what town that might be? Is there a possiblity to identify this Larson family?
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« skrivet: 2006-01-14, 11:42 »
There are 123 Charles Johnsons who immigrated from Sweden and were in the correct age range in the 1870 census. If I were to sort by only those who were 26 or 27 years old, the list would still be too large to handle. These early censuses do not sort by the wife's name - only by the head of household.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-13, 12:31 »
The column that says Knut did not serve in the military is on the far right - the last column that is written in. It says no. The question before it (were you employed the past 12 months?) was put into the census because it was taken after the start of the Great Depression.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-13, 12:27 »
Here is a copy of the 1930 census - just the part where his name appears. I will send the entire page to you via your e-mail. 
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« skrivet: 2006-01-13, 02:50 »
I found your Knut Carlson in the 1930 census. Here is the information:
Kings County, New York - area= Bow of Brooklyn
(I do not know what that means, perhaps they lived in what was called the Bowry)
KNUT CARLSON: Head of household, age- 47, born in Sweden and parents were born in Sweden. Immigrated in 1911 and was naturalized by 1930. He worked as an engineer and the place he worked for seemed to say institution. He had been steadily employed for the entire last year, but he did NOT serve in the military. He rented his apartment for $35.00 a year, and he and his wife owned a radio. Note that he said he was born in Sweden. The draft registration card said native born, but they just made a mistake.
Knut's wife was EBBA CARLSON, age 41. She and her parents had all been born in Sweden. She did not come to the country until 1923 and listed herself as an alien. She did not work. No children were listed. I cannot find her maiden name in that marriage index.
DO YOU WANT A COPY OF THIS CENSUS PAGE?
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« skrivet: 2006-01-11, 23:34 »
Did you notice that there is a listing in the NY marriage index (see the above reference) for a KNUT P. KARLSON, marriage date= 15-Dec 1928 in Brooklyn, NY. Maybe the site lets you order a copy.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-11, 23:23 »
The closest I come to finding Knut Petri Karlson in the 1920 census for NY is a listing for KNUT CARLSON, age 39, in Kings County, NY. It says that he came in 1905, was married and had children. However, this Knut lived in the same building as John Carlson, age 35, who came to this country in 1903. Since the date of emigration does not match, I doubt that this is your Knut. I searched under Carlson, Carlsson, Karlson and Karlsson, and also did a search under the first name of both Knut or Peter. I searched under the name Knut, born in Sweden, for the entire U.S. for the 1920 census. I do not have access to the 1930 census, so I will wait to see if someone else tries to look him up in that census. If not, then I will try to find him when I go to our local library - where they have Ancestry 1930 census.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-07, 13:03 »
Thanks, Lisbeth! I could not find Johanna Lennberg in the Ellis Island database for 1894, but I am sure that is the correct family. They came to the U.S. early, and had at least 4 chidlren. My morfar remarried after my mormor died young. This Lennberg connection is from the step-mother's family. My mother talked about her own mother, but never about her step-mother, so it is nice to learn something about them!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-07, 02:42 »
Is Lennberg a common name? I am having trouble finding enough background information to enter a query. All I know is that my grt-grandmother's last name was Lennberg, and her family came from Sweden prior 1860. They appear on the 1880 census (Illinois, Cook County, Proviso township) as the following:
Leopold Lennberg (spelled Lenberg using the Ancestry search engine)- 58 years old
Johanna Lennberg 58 years old. They have three children, ranging in age from 17 - 21, and all were born in Illinois - so that's how I know that the parents immigrated prior to 1860. I do not know if they married here or in Sweden, but I cannot find their marriage in any Illinois databases. They must have been born around 1822.
If there are dozens of Lennbergs who emigrated prior to 1860, then I will try to find citizenship documents to see if those hold any hint of their exact date of emigration. Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-06, 12:39 »
When searching the U.S. Federal census, it is important to have the date of birth. There are too many Karlsons/Carlsons listed, and it is helpful to limit the search by age.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-06, 04:38 »
Thank you for such a thorough and quick answer. I never expected a reply after only one hour!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-06, 03:41 »
I am looking for the background of John M. Nelson, born June 4,1852 in Sweden. His full name was either John Malcolm Nelson, or John Melker Nelson. He and his family emigrated in 1869 to Chicago. The family Bible lists this:
--mother= Angla Maria Johanna Petronella Nelson (born in 1825 in Sweden), and the U.S. census says that she called herself Hanna Nelson.
--father= P. Nelson, but that is uncertain because he didn't show up on any census
--sister= Ottilia Charlotta (born Dec. 1861)
The father may have died in Sweden, since the mother was a widow, working as a washerwoman by 1870. Other Nelsons lived near them, but the relationship is unknown. Thanks for whatever help you can give me.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-05, 23:36 »
Thanks! That map site was just what I needed.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-04, 16:08 »
I am writing our Kelsey (Källström) family history and we would like to visit the area that from which they came, but I'm having a hard time finding the towns on a map. I get very confused between läns, provinces, parishes and towns! The family says that they all came from Västmanland, but this is what I learned from a previous query:
--Karl Ersson Källström, born 1798 in Torstuna, Uppsala län (Uppland)-Karl emigrated 25-May 1846 from Syllby egor, Österunda, Uppsala län
county of birth: Västmanlands län (*Perhaps this line was meant for his wife, who was listed below)
--Stina Olsdotter, born 1796-08-07 in Torstuna, Uppsala län (Uppland)Västmanland
Seven of their 8 children were born in Österunda, Uppsala län, Uppland (between 1822 and 1840), and four of them remained in Sweden.
I'd like to identify where these towns are, and what the area looks like. Is there a website that might have a photo of that area? Karl was a shoemaker and a soldier, so I assume that the family lived in a village, not on a farm. One of his sons, Carl Erik became a soldier too, and he took the surname of Jedin.
Thanks in advance for any geographic information - or photos - that you can give to us!
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« skrivet: 2006-01-04, 15:41 »
Thanks, Eva, for that information. I found out from an archivist that The American Battle Monuments Commission website did not list Albert Hagberg as having been buried overseas during WWI, so that is ruled out. The National Veterans Cemetery Register did not list him as being buried in one of those cemeteries. There is one book, The Great War, that has casualty listings for each state, but Alaska was not a state at that time, so it is not listed. I wrote to the Dept of Vet. Affairs in AK, to the VFW in Juneau, and to the AK genealogical and historical society to see if they have any information. Perhaps he registered for the draft, but never went to war. Otherwise, that is all I can think of doing to find him. The only thing left is to search the U.S. census (west coast states) for every man named Albert, born in Sweden, and within his age group. If this Albert got into some trouble in AK, then he'd change his last name when he applied for citizenship. Hagberg is not such a common name that he should be able to hide in the census, so maybe he changed his name a little. There are Hagbergs living in AK today, and there were some Haegbergs listed in 1920, but none fit his age categories.
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« skrivet: 2006-01-03, 18:58 »
DOES ANYONE HAVE ACCESS TO THE CANADIAN CENSUS? If so, could you see if Albert Hagberg moved to Canada? I am trying to find this person, but I'd like to make sure that he did not move out of the U.S. He did register for the draft (World War I) in Juneau, but that does not mean that he fought in the war. He might have moved to Canada, but I have no access to Canadian census records.
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2005-12-10, 15:43 »
Yes, Ida Ekstrand does show up on the 1910 census in Boyd County, NB. She was 30 years old and was a servant for the Gustafson family - as as Mats told you. She had come to this country in 1909. The column that asks about marriage says that she was a widow, but I am unsure of the meaning of 1 year. Perhaps her marriage only lasted one year, or perhaps she had been a widow for one year. The census taker did not write a date on this page, but the next page of the census says May 1910. I would guess that Ida was widowed in Sweden, and then emigrated to make a new life for herself. She became a servant, met Erik Ohman, and got married. I do not think that they had any children, and the 1910 census does not say that she had any children from her first marriage. The columns that asked about 1)how many children she had given birth to, and 2)how many children were still alive were both blank. Now you have a little background about Ida Ekstrand Ohman.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-09, 12:20 »
I have printed out your request, but I do not have access to the 1930 census. When I get to a library, then I will try to find him. Send me an e-mail if I forget. I could not find him in the Ellis Island database. Did he go to Boston? Maybe I used the name Anderson, rather than Andersson.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-09, 00:04 »
I was unable to find their dates of death because the search lead me to Ancestry, a paid site. Is anyone able to find their dates of death?
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« skrivet: 2005-12-08, 00:33 »
There is a listing in the 1920 census for the following person in Boyd County, Nebraska: Erik Ohman, age 42, and he was married at that time. It said that he immigrated in 1912, and his application for citizenship was PA (pending). He rented his land, and was a farmer on a general farm. His wife was Ida Ohman, also from Sweden. She was 40 years old and was a homemaker. She had come to this country in 1910, and her application for citizenship was also pending. They had a hired hand to help with the farm. They lived in Ware township of Boyd County, Nebraska. There is a listing on the Nebraska gen-web site that gives their wedding date: Ida Ohman, Erik May 19, 1915 The NB gen-web site might give you an idea of what that county was like in the 1920s. http://www.rootsweb.com/~neboyd/ It gives a list of databases that might give some general information, and there are a few old photos. I do not have access to the 1930 census here at home. If you want me to look that up, please send me an e-mail after the holidays to remind me, and then I'll go to a library that has the 1930 census.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-06, 22:04 »
I hope that Sara is still following this thread, because I have found some of her ancestors in the 1920 census, and I know where Axelina lived in 1918! It does not allow me to find Sara's e-mail address to alert her, so I hope that she finds this message.
First, I found Vaner Antonius Larson's 1918 draft registration, and he lived in St. Paul, MN on Cathedral Place. He listed his name as Vaner Antonius Larson, born March 1877, and he was 41 years old when he registered. He was a carpenter & his employer was Adolph Meyer. I know that this is the correct person because his nearest relative was listed as Axeline Larson who lived in Los Angeles, California. I could not find her in the 1920 CA census, so she might have lived with a daughter, whose name was not Larson after marriage. The 1930 census for MN found Van A. Larson living in Ramsey County, the city of St. Paul, Minnesota. He was 53 years old, a carpenter for a building contractor, and he had immigrated in 1879. His wife was Christine M. Larson, and she was 54 in 1930, had immigrated in 1892. They had an adopted daughter, Ethyl Warwick, on the 1920 census, age 14 at that time. She was not with them in 1930. I have the census imprints from 1880, 1920, & 1930 in case you want to give me your e-mail address, and I will send scanned copies to you.
Vaner Antonius Larson died in Ramsey County on 16-October 1962. His death certificate can be ordered on-line, if you want, from the MN historcial Society. I know that this is your ancestor because it incorrectly listed his mother's maiden name as Axelaline. Obviously, Van's wife only knew her given name.
There also is a draft registration from 1918 for a Gustave Larson, born May 23, 1879. He lived in St. Paul, MN, so he might be your ancestor. His wife was listed as Hilda Larson at 397 Wheeler Ave, St. Paul, MN. If you can find out from Lucas County in Iowa if Gustave was born there, then you can get a match on the birthdate. I could not find Gustave and Hilda in the 1910 or 1920 census, but they have very common names for that area of many Scandinavians.
I HOPE YOUR ARE LOOKING AT THIS SO you know where your ancestors ended up!!!
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« skrivet: 2005-12-05, 22:33 »
Sara, if you do not want to try the Swedish Lutheran church records, you might write to the Lucas County genealogical society. There is an e-mail address listed, so perhaps they would do some investigation for you & you would not need to mail a letter. If they can find records of this family, they will not tell where they moved to, only when they disappeared from county records. If some of your ancestors died while in Lucas County, they might have those records. Try this address:
LUCAS COUNTY GEN SOCIETY % PUBLIC LIBIBRARY
803 BRADEN AVE
CHARITON, IA 50049-1742
USA
e-mail: LUCASGENE@HOTMAIL.COM
I have found a wealth of information at the county level for my own family, but not where a family moved to. The Lutheran church records have told me where they moved to or from, since some of those old pastors kept up their record-keeping just like they had in Sweden. Good luck!
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« skrivet: 2005-12-05, 16:11 »
Thanks to everyone! It looks like a beautiful area to visit.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-05, 02:27 »
We always thought that our mormors far came from Falkenberg. Recently we found out that he was born in Ljungby in 1869, and he and his family emigrated from No. 1 Kärret in Ljungby parish. If I visit the Ljungby area, what type of landscape and town would I see? Has it remained rural, so that I would get a feeling of what life was like for the Andersson children? Their father, Anders Johan Svensson, was also born in Ljungby in 1836. Is the parish church still the same as in the 19th century? Thanks for whatever information you can give me.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-04, 13:55 »
I forgot to tell you - I tried to check the Iowa death index, but it brought me to the Ancestry site, which is not free. I can't check for the deaths of any of these people.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-04, 13:54 »
What month was Axelina Sofia born in? There is a listing for a Sophia Larson, age 43, born Sept. 1857 in Sweden. She is a widow and is living in Minneapolis in 1900 with two of her youngest children, both born after 1880. It says that she had had 5 children, but only three were alive in 1900. The only problem with this entry is that her year of immigration is listed as 1878, rather than 1879.
Many Iowa immigrants moved on to Minnesota, but usually they did not end up in the large cities, but stayed in small, rural towns. I doubt that this is your Axelina Sofia.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-04, 02:15 »
I spent a long time trying to find this family in the 1900 - 1920 U.S. federal census. No luck! I went through numerous Larsons, Larsens, and then searched by various spellings of first names. The only one I could find that seemed to be close was the following:
1910 census for Pennington County, South Dakota
(Lake Flat Township)
Gustaf Larson, age 32
Born: Iowa
Single, white male
Both of his parents had been born in Sweden
He was a farmer of a general farm, and he owned his farm with a mortgage.
There is no way that I can test whether this is the son of your emigrants. This same person did not show up on the 1920 census in that state. I think that the church records might tell where they moved to, or if they died after the 1880 census was taken, if you know how get that information.
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« skrivet: 2005-12-02, 14:31 »
I did a quick search and cannot find this family in the 1900 or 1910 Lucas County, Iowa census. There are many Larsons in the Midwest area for those years, but I had trouble finding this particular family. If the family was Swedish Lutheran, it might be wise to do a search of the Lutheran Church in America records which are kept in Sweden - I think that is at Vaxjö (Did I spell that correctly?).
Next week I will use a faster connection at our local library and see if I can find this Larson family.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-27, 14:59 »
Finding Albert Hagberg's military record may be a real problem, because the place where First World War records are kept (St. Louis, Missouri) had a fire, and most of those records were burned. That must be why there are so few on-line databases of soldiers from that war. The Alaska gen-web site is rather poor, and does not seem to have lists of soldiers who enlisted in that territory. I will write to one of the local military historical museums and see what I can find out about Alaskan volunteers. Here is a site where you can apply on-line for your ancestor's records, but you have to prove how you are related to him. I think you can scan an image of his parish birth record, or something like that, and attach it if they ask. http://www.archives.gov/veterans/evetrecs/index.html Look at that site, then click on the red button at the bottom of the screen that says request military records I have a copy of the standard form SF180, which I can mail to you, in case you are unable to do this on-line, or if you would prefer to mail in a form with a letter. Because of the fire, there is a good chance that your family will never find out about Albert Hagberg. I do not have access to the 1930 census here at home, so I did not search for him in it. However, I could not locate him in the 1910 or 1920 census, but I am unsure if the census was taken in Alaska (because it was only a territory). It did not become a state until 1959. Juneau is located along the Pacific, in the southeast panhandle area. I think that you will be able to read about the history of Juneau and Alaska, and try to understand why Albert went there (probably for adventure). You might also write to Juneau to this address and ask about finding the fate of your ancestor: Veterans Of Foreign Wars 336 1st St Juneau, AK 99801 Make sure you enclose a copy of his draft registration card. Another option is to write to this address and ask for information: Alaska Genealogical Society 7030 Dickerson Drive Anchorage 99504 If he returned from the war, it is possible that he went to Canada, and I know nothing about searching Canadian census records. Tell me if you have any luck with these sites. If you need help, I will fill out a form and mail it to you for your signature. Your ancestor must have been a thrill seeker if he traveled from Seattle to Juneau (probably by ship) back around 1915!
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« skrivet: 2005-11-26, 00:24 »
Thanks to everyone for these answers! This area will be included on our next trip.
People on Rötter will get tired of my questions soon, since all of my ancestors came from Sweden and Denmark, and two of my husband's grandparents came from Scandinavia too. I will soon be asking about other provinces too!
Thanks again!
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« skrivet: 2005-11-25, 12:17 »
Thanks. Now I know that the church she went to is cannot be seen, but the new one certainly is a pretty country church.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-25, 01:24 »
Thanks so much! I wonder what the Dagsås church looks like. I will have to visit that area and take a photo of the church, since my Grt Grandmother was very faithful to her church. However, the area seems to be very rural, and I am surprised that she was courageous enough to come to the U.S. alone, at the age of 18. She traveled with a neighboring family, but they were in the aft of the ship, and she was in the middle - which shows that they were not together. Once in Chicago, she struck out on her own. Moving to an urban area was very big change for a girl from Ottersjö!
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« skrivet: 2005-11-24, 17:29 »
There is a listing for a Nils Bostrom (from Sweden) who came to the U.S. on June 23, 1906. He was 28 years old in 1906, and he was going to Tacoma, Washington - which is just south of Seattle. Maybe he came from the same area as Albert Hagberg did. I will try to find some databases of WWI soldiers.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-24, 17:12 »
I cannot find Albert in the 1920 census, either in the Alaska database, or in the state of Washington. I looked under Albert and under different spellings for Hagberg. I did find a Hagberg in the Ellis Island database, which you probably have seen:
Line 2: Hagberg, Albert I. M 17y Single Sweden, Scand. Ofvalulea, Sweden
When I drilled into that manifest, I found only the right side of it (column #15 to the end). It said that he was going to Seattle, Washington to be with a friend: N.P. Bostrom, who lived at Columbia Station, Seattle, Washington. He paid for his own passage, and he arrived with $25.00.
I did not find N.P. Bostrom in the 1920 census for Seattle.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-24, 16:20 »
I am planning our next trip to Sweden, and I am curious about an area in Halland. I wanted to post a question on the Halland area of this forum, but I do not know Swedish, so I had to post it in the English side. My mormor mors family came from Halland, Ottersjö, Dagsås parish. This is what the record said:
Daughter Anna Josefina Johansdotter, born 14 Mai 1873, Dalen 1/4 mtl, Dagsås no 3. Confirmed 1887. Emigrated to North Amerika 20 Maj 1892. [Her father was] Johan Berntsson, born 1st December 1833, Vinberg Parish. Lived 1899 in **Ottersjö, Dagsås Parish** from 16/11 1873. Before in Dalen 1/4 mtl, Dagsås no 3, Dagsås parish. When he came to Dagsås not known.
Here is the question: If we come to Halland on our trip, what is there to see in the areas of Ottersjö and Dagsås that might help me understand the area where Anna Josefina Johansdotter came from? Is Ottersjö a small lake, and is Dagsås a city or a small town? Thanks for whatever help you can give me.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-23, 12:25 »
The only reason I could not locate the actual document was due to being at NEIU, the regional archive. They hold only documents for Cook County - outside of Chicago. I seldom get into the city. The obituary is a surprise, since I did not know that the Malmborgs came here with relatives. Also, I could not locate her in the death index, and I did not know that there was some central index of Tribune obituaries.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-23, 12:19 »
Thank you! I am very grateful for all of the help I have received on this site, and I am attempting to repay the site by looking up U.S. census records for those who query the site. You have helped me so much!
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« skrivet: 2005-11-22, 18:09 »
Thanks so much! I could not find more information about him, and I was worried that I did not have enough for any type of search.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-22, 13:32 »
I have been searching for ALBIN FAUST in U.S. records, hoping to find enough information so that I could post a query on this site. However, I am having a lot of trouble. I found his addresses in Chicago over a period of years, but not much more. I drove to the No East Illinois area archives to search for his naturalization documents, and I was able to find the file card. I have not yet found the actual document, but I will continue to search. Any ideas of what I can do to find his background in Sweden? This is what the citizenship entry on microfiche says:
Name: FAUST FAST), Albin (Bror Gustaf Albin)
Filed: U.S. District Court
Country of birth: Sweden
Birth date: August 8, 1904
Date and port of arrival in the U.S.:
Nov. 4, 1927 New York, NY
Date of naturalization: May 5, 1943
I will take a trip into Chicago to see if I can find a copy of this naturalization at the U.S. federal building. Does the above information offer enough to search any of the databases in Sweden?
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« skrivet: 2005-11-22, 01:29 »
One more note about the Malmborgs. Elina Malmborg did not become a citizen until Oct. 3, 1923. I looked up the naturalization records at the Chicago archives. Wilhelmina never became a citizen, but Elina eventually was naturalized. I was unable to locate the actual naturalization document, but I did find a copy of the index card that was written. The index card said:
Elina Malmborg, 4960 Drexel Blvd. Certificate number W.249, filed at the Superior Court of Cook County, Illinois. County of birth or allegiance: Sweden When born: Jan. 30, 1868 Date and port of arrival in the U.S: June 8, 1886, Date of naturalization: Oct. 3, 1923. Names and addresses of witnesses: John C. Nelsenius and Margaret Nelsenius- 1628 N. Richmond St. Chicago.
And just in case you are curious as to where she lived, type in that address into the Google search engine (or Yahoo) and it'll come up with a map. Drexel Blvd. is on the south side of Chicago. The two who sponsored her lived in the near north/west side of the city.
Once again, I looked at the Illinois death index, and I cannot find her listed. She may have moved and died out of state.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-19, 00:03 »
I will try this again- 
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« skrivet: 2005-11-18, 23:54 »
I will try to show you the 1920 census where Sigrid was listed. I hope this image shows up OK and you can read it.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-18, 12:19 »
Perhaps someone who is better at using the Ancestry site could try to find Sigrid for you. I gave up searching her by last name on the 1930 census, and searched using her given name, and that gave me too many hits. Could someone try to find Sigrid Nilson or Sigrid Hasselquist in the 1930 census? I have access to HeritageQuest here at home, and can only look through 1920.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-17, 00:03 »
I found Elina in all available censuses, which I sent to you via e-mail and snail mail. Because Elina did not marry, there appears to be no descendents. She did remain in the Chicago area, but by 1930 she was a roomer in a home in Wilmette. Today the village of Wilmette is a real exclusive place to live! When I am at the Chicago archives, I will see if I can find her death date and the date of her mother's death. Maybe you have that from the tombstone photographs?
Elina had been a milliner, but by 1930 she listed no occupation.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-16, 23:58 »
I could find no further census information for Sigrid Nilsson, no matter how I searched - under Nilsson, Nilson, Nelson, Hasselquist, or Sigrid in the 1930 census. I could not find her death date either.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-16, 14:13 »
By the way - the John Lundstrom that I found in Colorado on the 1900 census was an ore miner. I spelled that county wrong on my first entry. It is San Miguel County, Colorado, and that John Lundstrom lived in a town that looks like Telluride. Had his family been miners, so that they would have gone to Colorado to find work in the mines out there?
If you think this is your John Lundstrom, then I will find him in other census imprints.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-16, 14:08 »
I can find only two people, who match the age of Nils Johan Lundstrom, in the 1900 U.S. census- both named John Lundstrom. I found no Hans Lundstrom or Langnas or Longnas in the 1880 census so far. One John Lundstrom was 33 in 1900, lived in San Migual County, Colorado, and it said that he had been born in April 1867 in Sweden. He was not yet a citizen in 1900. However, it said that he immigrated in 1887, not 1867. Did you make a mistake when you gave the information, or is this the wrong John Lundstrom? I cannot find any Nils or Nels Lundstroms, and the other John Lundstrom, who lived in Chicago, was 34 years old, rather than 33 in 1900. I also searched the 1870 census under the name of Lundstrom, Langnas, or Longnas. There were only a few Lundstroms, but none of them fit this family. They immigrated in 1887??
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« skrivet: 2005-11-08, 03:00 »
Well, I realized that their last name was Malmborg, so I did the search again.
--In 1900, Wilhelmina and Elina were living together in Chicago. It listed the mother's birth date as Dec. 1822, and said she was 77. The daughter's birth date was Jan. 1869 and she was 31. They had emigrated in 1886, and had been in the country for 14 years. Elina was a milliner. They lived on Carpenter Street.
--In 1910 I found Wilhelmina and Elina living at 5807 Central Avenue in Chicago. Wilhelmina was 86, and Elina was 42 years old. Wilhelmina was a widow, and her daughter was single. It also said that she had had seven chidren, and all seven were alive at that date. She and Elina had immigrated in 1886, and Elina was a milliner at a millinery store.
--In 1920 I found Elina Malmborg living alone in Chicago, and she worked as a milliner out of her own home. She was 53 years old in 1920, and had immigrated in 1886. She was not a citizen, but listed herself as al - meaning alien.
Wilhelmina died on 17-October 1914 at the age of 90. Here is the citation for her death:
MALMBORG, WILHELMENA 10/17/1914 CHICAGO 90 YR U 00019999 COOK I cannot find Elina's date of death.
Did any of Wilhelmina's other children come too??
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« skrivet: 2005-11-07, 04:26 »
When were they born? It is impossible to find either of them without some idea of birthdates. In 1910 there is an Elina Pearson who was 24 years old and who lived in Rockford, Illinois - west of Chicago. She was a servant. She came to the U.S. in 1902. In 1920 I found a Wilhelmina Persson living in Cook County, Proviso township (the Chicago area), who was 48 years old. Persson was her married name. There was also a Wilhelmina Pearson who lived in Chicago and was 43 years old. She was single, had come to the US in 1892, and had a niece named Vera living with her. It will be impossible to find these people without more information, since they went to a very large city. Does the grave photo tell what cemetery she was buried in? What date did she die, and what was her name at the time of death?
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« skrivet: 2005-11-07, 04:04 »
On the 1920 U.S. Federal census there is a listing for a Sigrid Nilson, age 24, who lived in Manhatten, NY County, New York. She was a cook, and it says that she came from Sweden in 1914. She was living on west 57th street, and there is a family listed above her name who might be her employers. Their names were John, Margaret, Jeannine and Oilette Villon (hard to read, but he was French), and below them were listed a nurse, a maid, a cook (Sigrid) and a governess. I do not have access to the 1930 census here at home, but I will look when I get to a library. I could not find her listed in the social security death index under either Hasselquist or under Sigrid, using her date of birth as a delimiter. I could not find her sister, Amanda, listed on the 1920 census, so she must have married by then and taken another name? Next week I will look at the 1930 census.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-02, 17:13 »
We found a record for Augustus Kelsey (Gustaf Källström Kelsey) in the database for the Bishop Hill Swedish settlement in Henry County, Illinois. I cannot find the other three listed, but I think they lived there, since the Kelsey family history repeats that story. The B.H. database information was found on the RootsWeb.com page. How do I search in this forum for information about Bishop Hill? I cannot read Swedish to follow search directions, and I thought there might be some Bishop Hill information. I know that it was formed in 1846, the same year that the Källström/Kelsey family came to the U.S. They went to Chicago, but the children must have found their way to Bishop Hill after their parents died in 1847 and 1849.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-02, 14:25 »
Thanks so much! I wonder how they got the name Kelsey if they came on a Swedish ship? The story about being on an Irish ship at immigration entry was not correct.
I just discovered that Julius Kelsey also served in the Civil War. Since their father had been a soldier, I guess the children were not afraid of going off to war.
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« skrivet: 2005-11-02, 03:26 »
The emigration file that Inga-Lill Johansson found refers to our Kelsey family. Thank you! John Olif Kelsey's birth date matches. Then I found reference to Augustus Kelsey in Google because he served in the Civil War, in the 6th Kansas Regiment. He was captured, but lived through the war and is buried in Colorado. The CO Veterans Grave Registration list gives his birth date as 12-MAR 1834 - so Augustus matches the entry for Gustaf Carlsson. In fact, if I want to buy Augustus' uniform and gun, it is for sale at a C.W. site on the Internet - for over $5,000!
Julius Kelsey's 1900 census entry says he was born in Nov. 1840. So ... three of the Carlsson childrens' birth dates match, and I am satisfied that we have finally discovered our Kelsey ancestors in Uppland and Vastmanland. Between their 1846 emigration and their marriages, I have found very little, but after that I have located the men in the censuses. I have not yet found Christine Kelsey (married Harmon Hittenranch) in any census, but I will keep looking. THANKS TO EVERYONE!
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« skrivet: 2005-10-31, 18:34 »
I think this may be the family, although the U.S. census clearly reads that their year of emigration was 1845. However, after living here for over 55 years, John Olif may have forgotten that detail. I will not match this family for certain until I receive information from the many historical and genealogical societies that I have written. If I knew exactly where they settled, I could search in the Swed Lutheran church records. I will soon search for those names in the 1840s death index for both Henry and Stark Counties in Illinois, and I will post a note after their information is returned to me. Thank you so much for finding this family. So much matches about them that I think it will prove to be the correct family!
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« skrivet: 2005-10-31, 16:36 »
I noticed that I made an error in my previous request. The parents emigrated with THREE sons and one daughter, not two sons.
I apologize.
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« skrivet: 2005-10-31, 16:32 »
I am researching my husband's family, in preparation for another trip to Sweden in 2006. I received help with his Dahl (Larsson) ancestors, and now I will attempt to find his KELSEY ancestors. Their name was changed in 1845 when they entered the U.S. at the Port of New York aboard an Irish ship. The immigration officer listed them as Kelsey, and they kept that name. I am giving you what I know, in hopes that someone can help me organize a search strategy that might lead to their Vastmanland origins. Here is what I have learned: -The family (parents, two sons and one daughter) emigrated in 1845. Obituaries say that they came from Vastmanland. -Informal family histories say that their name had been Kjelström or Chelstrom. I think it was the former. -We do not know the names of the parents, and they died a year after their immigration. The father had been a shoemaker. Place of their death is unknown, but I've written to two Illinois counties where they may have died. -THE CHILDRENS' NAMES WERE: 1) JOHN OLIF KELSEY (or Kjelström) born 3-Feb 1832 in Västmanland. Emigration 1845. Lived in Henry Co. or Stark Co., Illinois in the 1850s, and learned his shoemaking trade from his father. Married in Stark Co., IL to Breta Johnson, another Swedish immigrant. They settled in MN, & I have requested his death certificate, and a biography of him that was written in 1915, but they have not been received. 2) AUGUSTUS KELSEY (or Kjelström) born in 1834 in Västmanland. (month unknown because I cannot locate him in the U.S. census after 1880. He married in 1858 in Stark Co., Illinois and I have written for his marriage registration. He settled in Linn County, Kansas prior to the Civil War, and was a farmer. Linn County was the site of a huge pre-Civil War battle between pro-slavery and anti-slavery forces, so Augustus must have had an exciting life. That area of the U.S. was called bleeding Kansas. I don't know where Augustus died, but I have written to Linn County. 3) JULIUS KELSEY (or Kjelström) born November 1840 in Västmanland, emigrated in 1845. He married in Stark Co., IL, then farmed in Henry County, IL (next to Stark county). He moved to MN, and I've written to Henry and Stark Counties, and will write to MN to find where he died - and search for an obituary. I do not know the name of the daughter, since the search engine I used for old Illinois marriages searches only by groom. Please give me suggestions as to where I can search for more information. I've written to all the counties they moved to, and searched old death databases, without luck in finding the parents' names. I've searched for obituaries. Any search strategy ideas? Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2005-10-28, 03:10 »
Elisabeth, the family that you found must be the family that I was searching for. There is a positive identification for Anna Elaine's birthday, then we identified that the father, Jonas, was born in the correct month and year, and now I located Bertha Dahl Eagle in the 1900 census, living in New York. Her birthday also matches, so that means that the Jonas Larsson family was correct, and they came from Varmland. Thanks to everyone for the database search, and for getting better imprints of the U.S. federal census.
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« skrivet: 2005-10-26, 23:47 »
Wow! I thank everyone. I knew about the MN death index and had planned to order a copy of Jonas Dahl's death certificate. I am unsure if I'll order his wife's death cert., since that was his second wife. His should help me decide if Elisabeth found the correct family. I was using Heritage to find the 1900 census. Obviously, you got a better image in your search engine!
I will follow through with this, and I thank everyone.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2005-10-26, 12:44 »
Yes, I put my question on Rötter because I had gotten so few answers to my questions in the U.S. census. Her father was listed on the 1900 U.S. census, but it was such a poor quality print that I was unable to read anything. It came at the bottom of a page and it was black. I could only see that he had remarried, but could not make out much else. When I get to a university library I will reel through the actual census microfilm and see if the imprint is any clearer.
By 1880 Jonas Dahl was a widower, and I have not identified the name of his first wife yet. The obit for Anna simply gave the year of her emigration, although I have not found an obit for Jonas yet. That search will be done soon, by scanning the Minnesota papers when I drive to St. Paul - a 400 mile trip north. I also searched for the death date of the sister, Bertha, but she her married name was Eagle, and she disappeared from the Minnesota census around 1910. She might have remarried because her first husband died before 1910.
Thanks Elisabeth for finding the family that seems to match. With some more investigation, I ought to know whether my Anna Elaine Dahl is the person you found from Varmland. Genealogy is not easy here, since it often involves going to the sources - which are kept at the state level, or sometimes at the local (county) level. I live near Chicago, but the sources for Anna's early life, and the life of her father, will be found at the MN Historical Society or at Wright County, MN, and the sources for her later life are kept at the WI Historical Society in Madison, with other things kept at the county level in Park Falls, Wisconsin, since so many of the Swedes worked in the lumber industry, and Park Falls had a big pulp mill and lumber industry.
Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2005-10-25, 20:19 »
I am searching for the Dahl family, but I have very little information. I am unable to find an obituary, but I will keep searching for one. Please tell me if there is any hope of finding her background from what I do know:
Name: ANNA ELAINE DAHL, born August 9, 1867 in Sweden. (Parish or area of birth unknown) Emigrated in 1868 at age of one year.
Her father: JONAS DAHL, born about 1827 in Sweden(he was 53 on the 1880 MN census). He emigrated in 1868 with his wife (name unknown) and two daughters, Anna Elaine and BERTHA DAHL (born in 1860 in Sweden).
What databases are available that search on name and date of emigration, without any specific birth parish or parish from which the family emigrated?
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« skrivet: 2005-10-18, 12:17 »
THANKS TO EVERYONE! Now I can look at the Ellis Island record myself, and I know that they emigrated via Copenhagen.
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« skrivet: 2005-10-16, 02:33 »
Thanks to everyone! I still cannot find the Börjesson family - no matter how I spell the name - although further research has shown that they were friends of my great grandmother's family, not relatives. Carl August Börjesson was born 7-Aug 1854, and his wife, Inger Kristina Andersdotter, was born on 1-July 1844. I searched the U.S. census by several possible spellings, and then searched the Chicago census using first names, ages and place of birth as delimiters. I will give up on that family, and concentrate instead on finding Anna Josefina Johansdotter (my grt grandmother) in all of the census imprints. So far I've only located her in 1920 and 1930. She married Carl Bernhard Anderson, and there are hundreds of Andersons to look through in Cook County, Illinois in 1900 and 1910. I am sure that I will find them. I thank everyone for their help.
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« skrivet: 2005-10-15, 15:52 »
My mormors mor, Anna Josefina Johansdotter (from Dagsås, Halland) came to the U.S. in May of 1892. She traveled with Inger Kristina Andersdotter and her two children, Emilia Sofia Karlsdotter and Karl Edvin. They were going to Inger Kristina's husband, Carl August Börjesson, and their destination was listed as Chicago. Inger Kristina came from an adjoining farm in Dagsås Parish - Dalen 1/4 mtl Dagsås 2. Anna Josefina Johansdotter came from Dagsås 3.
I am unable to locate the Börjesson family in any of the U.S. censuses, or in the Ellis Island database. I assume that the children would have taken their father's last name when they became American citizens, but I am unsure how the name of Börjesson would be changed. Thanks for any ideas about the Americanized spelling!
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« skrivet: 2005-07-27, 13:35 »
In case anyone looks at this question in the future, I have been given the answer by the descendents of Carolina Ahlgren - no other children, but it was a grandchild that had been referred to. I did not want anyone to spend time searching the records, since I have my answer.
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« skrivet: 2005-07-23, 21:02 »
That previous listing might be incorrect, since the census listed him as 44 years old, rather than 42. Maybe it says that he was born in July 1856. Those hand-written census imprints are hard to read. The Nels Persson that I found was a house builder.
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« skrivet: 2005-07-23, 20:36 »
There is a listing for a Nels Persson in New York on the 1900 census, and he is the correct age - but it says that he was born in July 1858, not January. That Nels Persson had been in the country for 10 years and was a citizen. His wife was Ellen Persson, and they had two daughters. The first (I can't read her name, but it begins with an A) was born in 1892, and the second, Ellen, was born in Jan. 1895. Since the month of birth is incorrect, this is probably not your ancestor.
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« skrivet: 2005-07-22, 02:19 »
In the above question, I forgot to give information about the family. The parents were: Carolina Ahlgren, who was born in Gärdslöv parish on 5-March 1864. She married Lars Olsson in 1891 in Stockholm. He was born 27-August 1864 in Västra Vingåker parish.
They had many children, but the last one I know about was Elsbeth, who was born in 1904. I hope I have given enough information, and I thank you in advance.
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« skrivet: 2005-07-22, 00:01 »
In a discussion on this site, dated 6-Sept 2003 under the subject of Ahlgren family from Skåne, Gärdslov, I asked about my ancestors. I have studied these people for the past two years, and have had their letters translated and put into a notebook for my family to read. I have one question concerning Carolina Ahlgren Olsson. The list of children that I received was correct, but the family oral tradition claims that there was one more child born after 1904, and it died soon after birth. Could someone help find one more child listed in the birth index? The Olssons (spelled OHLSSON by some of that family) had Elsbeth Margareta Olsson in Jan. 1904 (Klara Parish), so the next child came after that date. The family moved twice after the 1904 date: from Klara to Johannes to Adolf Fredrik Parish. Would it be possible to find the birth date and name of this last missing baby?
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« skrivet: 2005-05-29, 17:48 »
I will be traveling to Sweden and Denmark this August, but I do not know where to ask about this problem. Please direct me to the correct site.
We are bringing our adult children with us so that we can all see where our ancestors came from. One of my sons is allergic to fish (shell fish and fish) - his throat closes and he cannot breathe. We know people in Sweden who can help us write out a card that we will present at restaurants that tell about this problem. However, we do not know how to make out a card in Danish that will explain his allergy. Can someone help me with this?? He is so allergic to all fish and shell fish that if a person uses the same oil to cook chicken as they used to cook fish, he reacts and cannot breathe! He also reacted once when they used the same utensil to dish up a hamberger that they had just used to dish up fish. So that is why I need some guidance.
I thank you in advance for this strange request.
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« skrivet: 2005-03-14, 00:09 »
Just in case anyone is interested in that powder plant where the Taberman men and Martin Thompson worked, there are a few websites that tell about it. In fact, the old Dupont dynamite plant is now an EPA clean-up site, according to one of the sites I read: http://www.epa.gov/region5/sites/dupont/ There is another paragraph about that plant on the Washburn historical site, which includes the opening of the Barksdale dynamite plant: http://cityofwashburn.org/History.htm. It provided MANY jobs in that area, especially during World War I.
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« skrivet: 2005-03-13, 01:00 »
I think that the photo might be the Taberman family in 1924, and I think that the woman who might be Marie could definitely be 58. It is hard to judge, since they have coats and hats on, but the man is definitely older than his wife (and Martin was 44 in 1924, and Edith was 37). The clothing is similar to what would be worn around 1925, and the little girl's age matches. What other ancestors might fit those ages and have a daughter?
Karen
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« skrivet: 2005-03-12, 00:17 »
About the hatchery photograph: I do not have access to the 1930 U.S. census. Could someone who has access look up Martin and Edith Thompson. On the 1920 census they were living with Edith's parents, Chas. and Marie Taberman and a brother of Edith's - Roy Taberman (19 years old)in Bayfield County, Wisconsin, in the town of Washburn. Edith Thompson would be about 33 years old in 1930, and her husband, Martin Thompson, would be 40 years old. I was wondering if the Thompsons had a daughter by 1930. If so, that photograph of the hatchery might include Martin and Edith Thompson, and Edith's mother, Marie Taberman ... and Edith's daughter - if she had one.
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« skrivet: 2005-03-07, 12:44 »
Hello again! Thanks for the information about the dynamite plant on Hwy 13. That is probably where those men worked. I will look into your family, Barbro, and try to find both the Bayfield County ancestors and also the others. I live near Belvidere, Illinois, and I am sure there were no hatcheries there. This is absolutely flat farmland, and there are only a few small lakes. However, the communities along lakes in Michigan, especially along the Great Lakes, had buildings that looked much like the one in your photograph. Next week I will look into that family too if you give me the details in an e-mail.
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« skrivet: 2005-03-07, 04:59 »
I will send your photo to whatever historical society that I can find on-line for the Bayfield County, WI area. There is a fish hatchery at 131 S. 3rd Street, located between the towns of Washburn and Bayfield, Wisconsin. Your Taberman ancestors appear in the 1920 census as living at 607 Pine Street in Washburn, Wisconsin (Bayfield County). The father's name is Charles Taberman, his wife is Marie, and their son, Roy lives with them and is 19. Their daughter, Edith (age 23) and her husband, Martin Thompson, live with them too. The three men work at the same place, but it is hard to read. Looks like Powder plant. However, if that photo is from 1920, the ages of your ancestors do not fit. There are no small daughters in 1920 in the Washburn family. If this photo was taken later, then Edith may have had a daughter. I do not have access to the 1930 census here at home - to see if they had a daughter. They are also mentioned in the 1910 census for Washburn, WI. At that time, Charles Taberman and wife lived on Pine Street, and their son, Carl A. was 16 and he worked as a printer at a newspaper. His father was a machinist (same as in 1920). Edith and her brother Roy were living at home and were in school. I can send you this information next week, but I will be leaving for vacation tomorrow. Send me an e-mail to remind me, and then I will look into these census imprints again. The building in that photo does look typical of many Wisconsin buildings. My family owns a summer home a little south of Bayfield County.
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« skrivet: 2005-02-12, 12:38 »
I never expected so many suggestions. Thanks to all of you! I do expect to see the seasides because I will stay in Malmö (and take the train to Copenhagen), and then in Skanör - with side trips into Småland. I will wait to see Stockholm until the summer of 2006, but I may drive to Varmland this year - just to see an area that is totally different from the south.
I thank everyone for their suggestions. I feel that the culture of a country can be glimpsed through its literature and film. BTW- we want to see the Blixen Museum in Denmark because my farmors family emigrated from Nasbyholm estate in Scåne - which was suppposed to be owned by the Blixens. (They had been tenant farmers, carpenters, and the women did the washing on that estate.)
Thanks to everyone! Karen
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« skrivet: 2005-02-08, 23:37 »
Thanks to all of you! I will sign into Amazon.com and see which of these authors and titles are available in English, and then make out my wish list. I enjoy poetry, novels, essays and drama or film, so the suggestions sound wonderful!
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« skrivet: 2005-02-08, 03:04 »
Before traveling abroad, I try to read literature and plays, and to view some films from that country. I feel that this offers a window into the culture of a nation. In preparation for last year's trip to Ireland, I read Irish poetry, plays and novels - including Joyce's Ulysses. Now I am preparing for a trip to Denmark and Sweden, and I would appreciate ideas of what to read (in English translation)that might provide both a cultural background, and a peek into today's popular selections. I have already read Per Anders Fogelströms City of My Dreams, two of Hjalmar Söderberg's novels, two of Kerstin Ekman's novels, and some of Henning Mankell's works that take place in Scåne. I plan to read Astrid Lindgren's stories, and I will try to get a translation of Vilhelm Moberg's Soldat Med Brutet Gevär. I will read Karen Blixen's memoirs of Africa, and I own many of the films of Ingmar Bergman. I need more ideas for my spring reading. Any suggestions?
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« skrivet: 2005-01-28, 03:38 »
I just found out that between 1851 and 1853 this family moved from Lom Gudbransdalen to Bardu, which is way up north. Their last three children were born in Bardu, so that is why they were not found in the moving-out records from the Lom area. Thanks for all of the information that everyone has contributed!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-27, 19:52 »
I will try again to attach the image of their marriage certificate. I couldn't remember how to load a J-Peg on the first try or two! 
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« skrivet: 2005-01-27, 13:21 »
I never thought I would get such a thoroughly researched answer, and I thank everyone! I have a copy of a letter that was written by the pastor of the parish from which they emigrated. It was written in the 1870s - after Peder died in our Civil War (at that time called the war of rebellion). I have to find my directions for uploading an image, and then I will scan and cut the letter down to a good size, then put it into this message - and everyone can guess at what it says. The pastor does not use the name goodman, or godman, to describe Arne. He only uses Arne Pederson Brudum .. or Broudem. Thanks, and I'll post that image soon. BTW- I also have two letters, written in Norwegian by Peder Arneson (also called Anderson here), telling his family about his hospitalization in Tennessee. They talk about the money that was owed him, and how he hopes that his widowed mother has been able to collect that money for her and the children to live on. Very touching, and the paper I am writing about Peder and Live (and the other siblings) will be entitled, Devotion to Family: A Norwegian Emigrant Goes Off to War.
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« skrivet: 2005-01-26, 17:36 »
A Swedish immigrant that I have studied, Augusta Hedstrom, married a Norwegian, and then settled in north-western Wisconsin, USA. A family history says that Live Arnesdatter (Augusta's mother-in-law) was born in Lom Gunbransdalen, Norway on 15-May, 1816. She, her husband and their 7 children left for Chicago in the spring of 1862 aboard the ship, the Sleipner. This vessel sailed directly from Norway to Chicago, via the St. Lawrence River - bypassing Niagara Falls by using the old Welland Canal and locks. It was the first ship that sailed directly to Chicago, and it made history. Unfortunately, the family experienced tragedy because the father, GOODMAN ARNE PEDERSON BRUDEM, died aboard ship of measles. The captain of the Sleipner helped escort Live and her children to Grantsburg, WI, where she received help from the community of Norwegians. My question concerns the father's name. Was Goodman a name, or did it denote an occupation? (I can't find it listed in a Norwegian dictionary.) Was Brudem a surname, or might that be the name of his farm or an area in Lom Gudbransdalen. Also, where is that town? I can't find it on my map. Live Arnesdatter never became a citizen and she adopted the name Live Arneson here in the U.S. Her oldest son, Peder, enlisted in the infantry in 1864 (the U.S. Civil War), hoping to give his mother $300 so that she could gather her family together, rather than having them living with others. Tragedy struck again when Peder died of Typhoid Fever the next spring. Live petitioned the federal government for a pension, and I have those pension-petition documents. They corroborate the family history, except that the father's name (written in script) might say Arne Pederson Boudem - and there is no Goodman at the beginning. Can anyone help me with this name? Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-26, 13:34 »
You have been very helpful! I am not sure that Nils Gustav Ahlgren spent two years in the military, so I will re-read the letters. I must have guessed at the length of his service, since there hadn't been letters from him for awhile. Also, I come from a different culture, and I tend to make assumptions! I will look into this matter more closely. I think that you are correct, and that Gustav spent 90 days at Kristianstad. Thanks again!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-26, 00:10 »
Thanks for such a thorough answer! I have one more question: In 1899 one of my ancestors wrote a letter saying that he was back home again, after serving his soldier duty at Kristianstad. He was 20 years old, and returned home (Scåne) to take over his morfars farm (a tenant farmer) on the Nasbyholm estate. When he spent two years in the Swedish military, did he fulfill the obligation of his provincial rote to provide a soldier, even though he was only a two year draftee? When these young people did their soldier duty, did they become the soldiers who fulfilled the demands of the allotment system, or were they simply extra soldiers who helped augment the regiments - both enlisted and allotted?
Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-24, 23:46 »
I have studied two families that were in the military, and I need some information. Anders Fredrik Hägg, born 17-Jan. 1854 in Rök, had Lifgrenadjären in front of his name. I assume that was a military title that inferred rank? Also, listed was the following: No. 63 Ombergs Kompani Kungliga 1st lifgrenadjärsregementet. Could someone tell me how these regiments were organized, and how important this person would have been?
The second name is Jakob Andersson Lindell, an ancestor who spent 26 years in Landskrona and Långholmen prisons for the murder of his father-in-law in 1870. He was listed as a dragon in the Wemmenhog's (or Vemmenhog's) Squadron of the Royal Skanska Dragon Regiment. When I find military titles, where would I look for an interpretation of rank? How were these military units organized? Were they national army units, provincial units or county units? Was the Wemmenhog Squadron from one area of Scåne? If this topic has already been covered, perhaps you could point me to the answer. Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-21, 23:43 »
Thanks! There are a few pieces missing, and I will find his naturalization papers to inquire into his birth. When he passed through Ellis Island he said that he was going to his sister, Hilda Carlson (perhaps a married name) in Evanston, Illinois. In 1910 the census found him living with his sister and her family, Hilda Swanson (a second marriage?). The listing of family members that Ulla reported does not include any Hilda, so I must see where she fits into this puzzle. I am sure, however, that the Karl Arvid George Hägg that you found must be the same person that I am studying. Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-21, 11:49 »
Thanks! I have not previously attempted to find information about this person, but I will search to see if anyone else has done so. I find that the hand-written manifests that are available on the Ellis Island site often spell the town name or parish incorrectly, since the American official couldn't understand the immigrant. About the naturalization papers - yes, I have used the government archives to find those. Chicago's records, on microfilm and fiche, are kept at Northeastern Illinois University in Chicago. I've been there many times, but it is a long drive in the winter, so I was hoping to find Karl Arvid Hagg's information without going there. However, I will take a trip to that NARA facility - just to make sure that the information that I now have is correct. Thanks again; you have been very helpful.
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« skrivet: 2005-01-21, 00:51 »
I am looking for information about Karl Arvid George Hagg, who entered the U.S. through Ellis Island on July 5, 1903. He listed his age as 25, but I think he was 22 years old. The ship's manifest says that he came from Ruina (or Riuna), Sweden, but I can't find any such place. If that word is Kiruna, would it be considered to be in Sweden, since it is so far north? Also, would he be listed on an emigration CD from 1903? If I have not given enough information, I will drive into Chicago to look up his naturalization papers, which should list the proper town of his birth. Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2005-01-04, 13:43 »
Thank you! I will contact the city archives.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2005-01-03, 20:27 »
I have been studying my ancestors, Carolina Ahlgren and Lars Olsson, who raised many children in Stockholm in the early 20th century. Three of their children died, and a descendent of Carolina wrote to me inquiring about which child died when it was dropped out of the nursery window by a maid? This story has circulated through their family for 100 years, and they were curious about it.
Even though I own 40 years of letters from the Ahlgren family, no letter tells about the details of this child's death. The child in question must have been Ebba Maria Olsson, who died on July 22, 1901, probably in the Klara Parish of Stockholm. (The baby had been born on 23 Feb 1900 in Johannes Parish, but the family moved sometime in 1901 to Klara Parish.) Carolina told the American family that she had given birth to twin girls, but Ebba was not developing mentally and she would have been retarded if she had lived. No cause of death was mentioned in the letter. Ebba was 16 months old at the time of her death. Perhaps she was a big child but had to be carried due to her slow development, and the maid simply could not hold on to her. I know that the nursery was located on the second floor, near the clock tower of the church.
My question concerns the law at that time. Would the parents have had to file a report with the police about their dead baby, or were investigations not required when a child died? Would this event have been recorded in a newspaper, or only in the parish records? Is there any place where we could find more about this tragic death?
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« skrivet: 2004-09-25, 13:55 »
Thanks so much! I heard from someone at the Newberry Library in Chicago who gave me places to look for the SVEA hotel. It may have been the hotel that you found on page 191 of the Swedes in Chiago book. My ancestors lived at an address that seemed to be the SVEA Hotal for over four years, until the 38 year old father died of a heart attack. I think that another Ahlgren relative was the proprietor of the SVEA, so that explains why Olaf and Gunilla Ahlgren could live there for so long. I think that SVEA was used as a place to stay after immigration, but most moved on to other places as soon as possible. I will find out more this year, after the Chicago Tribune puts their archives on-line.
Thanks again!
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« skrivet: 2004-09-04, 15:30 »
Yes, I was aware of the restaurant SVEA in Andersonville, but this was the SVEA Hotel, listed on many of the census forms. I will inquire at the Chicago Historical Society and the Chgo. Genealogical Society, and I should get an answer. I wanted to know if this hotel acted as a settlement home, since my ancestors lived there 4 hours - much longer than most families live at a hotel.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2004-09-03, 02:50 »
I do not know what site might answer this question, so I will put it onto your site. My ancestors emigrated from the port of Malmo and came to Chicago, Illinois. For a few years, from 1887 - 1893, they lived in a home that was named SVEA. I have not found any information about this home, but I assume it might have been a settlement house for recent Scandinavian immigrants. Has anyone heard about a Swedish settlement home in Chicago? I will also contact the Chgo. Historical Society and the Swedish institutes in Chicago and at Augustana College in a search for an answer to the term SVEA.
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« skrivet: 2004-08-12, 16:16 »
Although this discussion took place a long time ago, I read it and have continued to investigate the Ahlgren family. After having their letters translated, I have decided that they would be called abo. The Ahlgrens had a contract for a large farm (grain and fruit), and that contract could be passed from one generation to the next. Therefore, in 1899 when the elder Nils Gustaf Ahlgren died, his grandson, Nils Gustaf Ahlgren, assumed the contract on the farm. This type of land tenure made the family much more stable than if they were involved in the statare system - nothing like the characters in Martinsson's novels.
Their contract was renegotiated regularly (according to the letters), and the new contracts concerned their annual rent and what was included with the contract - such as the family's supply of peat. In the early 1890s their peat supply was eliminated, and the annual rent was decreased to reflect that fact. The younger Gustaf eventually became a manager on the Nasbyholm estate, giving him a steady income and allowing him to add on to the thatched-roof cottage that was provided by the estate.
Does anyone know where I could find an example of one of these contracts? I think it would make an interesting addition to the Ahlgren family history that I am writing.
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« skrivet: 2004-07-28, 22:05 »
I look at this site frequently, but I have never discovered how to sort by date - to read the most recently posted questions first. There are so many listed under the general and the emigrant categories, that I have trouble finding what discussions are new. Is it possible to sort by date, rather than by alpha?
Thankyou.
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« skrivet: 2004-04-27, 16:17 »
I am looking for information about the Olsson family from Västra because I have received old photos of those people. They were related to my ancestors through marriage, and I was curious as to the dates of their birth and the names of those in the family.
Lars Olsson was born August 27, 1864 in Västra, Vingåke parish. I am sure that there were a number of children in his family, and the letters that I have inherited talk about these relatives. They are related to the Ahlgrens (my ancestors) because Lars Olsson married Karolina Ahlgren in Nov. 1891 in Stockholm, where Lars worked as a slaughterhouse worker. I have photos that show Lars' siblings and his parents, and I'd like to know their names - if possible. Thank you in advance for any information that you can give me about this family.
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« skrivet: 2004-03-21, 17:01 »
Thanks for the information! I have one more question about the Carl de Sh?rengrad photographer. Is it possible that the studio stayed open after his death in 1878? The photograph that I am trying to date seems to be from the mid-1880's - taken directly before the young couple emigrated. If it was taken in the 1870's or 1860's, then the picture is of the former generation. Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2004-03-21, 02:31 »
Could someone tell me when the following photographers were in business?
Cecilia Nelsons Atelier (Malmö)
Carl De Sharengrad (Malmö)-this one was hard to read
Otto Pettersson (Lund)
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2004-03-19, 23:32 »
Thanks! I've found answers to so many of my questions on this site, and I appreciate the time people have taken.
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« skrivet: 2004-03-17, 01:04 »
Thanks so much! That helps me date the pictures, since they were kept together in an envelope. I assume that this was the Ahlgren sister who moved to Stockholm around 1886 to work as a servant. She married in 1891, and her letters say that she will send a picture of her herself and her husband. Also, she talks about wearing a little watch. Perhaps the jewelry that is clipped to her dress is a watch. I wonder when the men's suit - with a banded edge went out of style? Anyone know?
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« skrivet: 2004-03-16, 19:07 »
Well, I figured out how to successfully upload a photo, so here is another one. Is there any clue in the style of this woman's clothing (or the photographer's imprint on the bottom) that would indicate the decade that her dress and jewelry were current? 
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« skrivet: 2004-03-16, 18:58 »
I will now try to upload a photo (my first attempt). I would like to know when this style of clothing was current. I am trying to date three photographs, in an attempt to identify these ancestors. Would this type of suit be worn in the 1890s? 
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« skrivet: 2004-03-09, 02:34 »
I have had my ancestors letters from Sweden translated, which is helping me to write a family history. I have inherited many photos and Bibles, and the owner's name is written in front of each Bible - in elegant script. My farmor's mor received her Bible in 1876, and she signed her name as Mari Ahlgren, Näsbyholm 1876. However, there are two dots over the Y - which I cannot reproduce in this message. I have seen the letters ä and ö, but I have never seen a Y that had two dots over it. Was this a different letter in the 1870s, or did it indicate a different pronunciation?
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« skrivet: 2004-02-15, 02:54 »
I just read Hjalmar Söderberg's The Serious Game, which dealt with many places in Stockholm around the turn of the century. Is there any place on the Internet that I can find a map of old Stockholm, so that I can see the area where much of the story took place. He mentions Johannes parish church often, along with many of the street names of old Stockholm. I was just curious!
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« skrivet: 2004-01-11, 16:31 »
Thank you! Now I know when he emigrated. Maybe I will try to get the gen-line church books on-line, so I can look up some of these parish registers myself.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2004-01-10, 22:14 »
As a birthday gift I would like to give my mother an album about her ancestors. First, I need information about her mormor's and morfar's ancestors. They both came from Falkenburg, Sweden. Is that such a large town that there might be many parish registers to look through?
JOSEPHINE JOHNSON from Falkenburg
BORN: April 14, 1873
FATHER: John Johnson
MOTHER: unknown
EMIGRATED: probably in the 1880s
She got married in 1895 here in the U.S. I do not know if she came here alone, or if her entire family emigrated.
CHARLES (or CARL) BERNARD ANDERSON
BORN: December 14, 1869
NAME OF PARENTS: unknown
EMIGRATED: probably in the 1880s
He became a U.S. citizen in 1894, so he must have arrived here around 1887, since it usually took six or seven years to receive citizenship. His death certificate does not mention his parents' names. His citizenship papers say his name is CARL, and his gravestone says CARL, but his marriage certificate says CHARLES, and we knew him as CHARLES BERNARD ANDERSON.
Is any information available about these two families, even though I have so few details to give you? Thanks so much!
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« skrivet: 2003-12-17, 18:25 »
Much of our Christmas happiness comes from our past - remembering holidays long ago, and of loved ones who are no longer with us. The web of memory is strong during this season, and it is something that usually helps us understand the past and face the future. As I edited my family's letters from Sweden, I came across this paragraph, written in a letter dated December 4, 1905. It describes memories of Christmas in Gärdslöv Parish, Scåne, in the home of a tenant farming family on the Näsybholm Estate:
Dear Maria, do you remember Christmas at home, with the table next to the woodstove, Far on the couch, and Mother - with the pudding and the fish, and the glass pitcher with the good Christmas beer. I think about it sometimes, and smile to myself, and dream of being a child again. And I wonder how it is now (at the old home). [translation by Berit Nightingale]
In a later letter to Maria Ahlgren Bloom, written in 1925 by a different sister, Johanna Ahlgren, the following is quoted:
Yes, my dear, now Christmas will soon be here. Oh, how many Christmases have passed now since we children were gathered [together], and how many fights and turns we have had to go through.
May your Christmas be so good, that this year's memories might be written about, then read 100 years from now! What memories do others have that were passed down to you by your ancestors?
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« skrivet: 2003-12-16, 04:04 »
I plan to donate copies of our family's letters from Sweden (1887 - 1925) to the archive in Lund. They are written in script, using much of the old dialect, and I think they belong in Sweden, rather than being donated here in the U.S. My question deals with access and use of your archival sources. How do students or writers find out what sources are available in each of the provincial holdings? Once these letters are processed, will they enter some on-line catalog of diaries and letters? I am curious because I took a masters degree in history, and I found it very difficult to locate personal diaries and papers in U.S.libraries.
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« skrivet: 2003-12-14, 19:07 »
Thank you very much! I found a good photo on that site, and someone translated what I needed to know about the company. I will add these comments and the photo to our family's edited letters from the Swedish ancestors.
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« skrivet: 2003-12-13, 02:15 »
One of my ancestors, Lars Olsson, worked for a slaughterhouse in the vicinity of Stockholm from the 1880s until his retirement. The name of the company and the address (in 1891) were the following: Carlsbergvägen 62, Stockholm, Falk and associates.
Does anyone know if this company was a large establishment, and was it listed in any directory for the 1890s or later? In one of the family's letters, Lars' father-in-law said that the company moved from the outskirts of Stockholm into the city center. I am unsure if this Carlsbergvägen address was before or after the company moved. The father-in-law was impressed with the company because he said that they showed their cuts of meat on slabs of marble. I don't know what butcher shops were like back then, but the description gave me an idea of how people might go in to choose their meat.
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« skrivet: 2003-12-05, 01:22 »
Thanks so much! I will include these statistics in my family history, to help explain the many infant deaths that the family experienced.
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« skrivet: 2003-12-04, 15:18 »
I have another question based on the translations from my ancestors' Swedish letters. On July 10, 1892, one month before Carolina Olsson was due to deliver her second child, she wrote about her fears for her life: I am thinking of my own future too- every day, and how it will be. The future is hidden from us and that is good! I have all of this ahead of me and it makes me sad and worried but I leave it in God's hands. I have only one wish- if I die, I hope the child for which I am giving my life will accompany me. I have one more month to go and it's not an easy one, that's probably why I am thinking such dark thoughts.
What was the rate of maternal death in pregnancy and delivery in the 1890s? What about the rate of infant death? The baby that Carolina Olsson talked about in the above quotation died, but Carolina lived and went on to deliver five more, but only four children lived to maturity.
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« skrivet: 2003-12-04, 14:55 »
In one of my ancestor's letters, Carolina Olsson refers to her pregnancy and impending delivery. She and Lars Olsson had just gotten married the previous year, so they hadn't saved much money and they considered themselves poor. They lived in Stockholm, and the letter is dated in mid-1892. No one has found evidence of the birth of this child, but I know that it was a boy, and he died. Carolina tells about her fears for the delivery and says, I have to go to a maternity
hospital this time, it is too costly to give birth at home. It sounds awful, but it has to work, it doesn't cost anything there. Can anyone tell me about these maternity hospitals - were they established as a place for the indigent to give birth? Why did it cost so much to deliver at home - were midwives expensive? Compared to today's hospital costs, it surprised me that a maternity hospital would have been more expensive, but I guess it probably involved very little privacy or expertise. Where were these maternity hospitals? If she gave birth in one that was away from her home parish, would the birth have been recorded in the parish where the hospital was located? Maybe that is why we've never found a birth registration for this infant (August 1892 birth, and death soon after).
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« skrivet: 2003-11-21, 18:30 »
I have inherited a photograph of a beautiful young woman, and it is signed in script Edith Orr 1907. I think it may be a photo of Edit Olsson, born April 8, 1889 in Adolf Fredrik Parish, Stockholm. The photograph was from the studio of Julius Grafte, Regeringsgatan 61, Stockholm, and it says Kongl Hoffofngraf below that. Is there a listing for an EDITH ORR in any of the following four parishes: Adolf Fredrik, Bromma Parish, Johannes Parish, or Klara Parish? If not, I will assume that her handwriting is so poor that Olsson came out looking like Orr - with all of the letters smashed together. The photograph is a large one, and was kept in leather box with all of the family's most cherished pictures, so she must be a relative.
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« skrivet: 2003-11-21, 02:52 »
With the help of friends I met on this site, I found out that the old stove that my family had used for heat was a kakelugn. I looked up the websites that were given above and could view the newer versions of those stoves. Perhaps the family bought a little iron stove and connected it into the same chimney that the kakelugn used.
Thank you.
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« skrivet: 2003-11-18, 01:34 »
Once again, letters from my Swedish ancestors in Scåne are making me curious about so many things. In 1891 Nils Gustaf Ahlgren wrote that he bought a range which is up along the tiled stove. Does that mean that an iron cooking stove was connected to some tiled stove? Were both stoves in one room, or was it possible to put one stove in a room that was adjacent to the room that had the tiled stove? What does a tiled stove look like - was it built into the wall like a fireplace? Which stove would burn peat, and was a range more efficient? Until 1892 the family received an annual peat allowance with their contract on the Näsbyholm estate, but after the contracts were changed, they had to buy their own peat. In 1924 the family bought coal if they had enough money.
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« skrivet: 2003-11-17, 19:34 »
Thanks so much! I copied the photo of the confirmation group that Elisabeth told about, and have noted comments from everyone in the editorial notes. These letters have given me so many questions - and you may be hearing more from me real soon. At least the confirmation dress issue has been solved!
Karen
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« skrivet: 2003-11-17, 15:44 »
I am editing my family's letters from Sweden - with the help of translators I met on this site. In one of the letters, dated 1894, a young girl thanked her American aunt for sending money that would buy her a confirmation dress. She said that they purchased black material, and that the seamstress would come soon. Does anyone know a website where I can locate a photo of a confirmation class, all dressed in black? We always think that confirmation wear for girls was white, and I'd like to include a photo of a class dressed in black when I edit my family's letters and send it to the cousins as their Christmas gift.
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« skrivet: 2003-11-05, 01:04 »
Thank you. I am not sure of all the addresses that the Olssons had over the years, but I know that Caroilna was registered in Adolf Fredrik parish in 1889 when she gave birth to their first child (before they were married), then Bromma Parish, then Johannes Parish, and finally Klara Parish. However, they also rented a summer place in the archipelago - and that address they printed as Östernäs - In Furusund. Perhaps Wilhelm Laurentius died when they were there. There is no real reason that I need to know his death date - just curiousity as to how long Carolina and Lars had Wilhelm with them. In one letter she tells about how Wilhelm was fascinated with fire. He burned their bed and couch, and sat and laughed while it burned. The parents must have had a lot of worry with him.
Thanks to everyone for trying to find this death date!
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« skrivet: 2003-11-03, 12:30 »
Thanks to both of you! This answers my question concerning whether Mårten Hansson and Matilda Ahlgren, my ancestor, had agreed to marriage before his emigration. Probably not - because he emigrated in 1881 and she did not emigrate until 1886. I guess that the photograph I have of an Ahlgren woman with a good-looking man, done around 1886 - 1887, is not of those two, so it must be of the other sister and her boyfriend. I still wonder how one young woman from Gärdslöv came over here all alone, ended up in Rockford, and found Mårten! Maybe they made plans for her emigration during his 1885 visit. Thank you so much!
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« skrivet: 2003-11-02, 23:09 »
Thanks to Judy for trying to find an answer, even though I did not give enough information when I submitted the question. I asked for the date that Morten Hanson emigrated. His Swedish name was Mårten Hansson, and he lived in Gärdslöv parish. Mårten was born in Gärdslöv parish on Sept. 13, 1858, the son of husman Hans Mårtensson and Elna Christensdotter. He had a sister named Anna and two brothers - Lars and Ola (all three were born in Gärdslöv parish). I believe that the family continued to use patronymics, so their last names would be Hansson - if they did not emigrate. I think that Mårten emigrated sometime around 1886, and when he was naturalized, he took the surname of Hanson. Thank you for looking into this.
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« skrivet: 2003-11-02, 22:58 »
Lars Olsson (born Aug 27, 1864 in Västra, Vingåke parish) married Karolina Ahlgren (born March 5, 1864 in Gärdslöv parish) in Stockholm in Nov. of 1891, and most of their marriage was spent in Klara Parish. They expected to have a child in August of 1892, but it died - or perhaps he was born early and then died. I have no information about this child, except when the family letters refer to Karolina losing her little baby. However, their next child was Wilhelm Laurentius Olsson, born August 7, 1894 in Bromma parish. Wilhelm was mentally retarded and had rickets disease, which Karolina referred to as the English sickness. Her letters continue to talk about Wilhelm for many years, but I know that he did not live to maturity. Could anyone find out when Wilhelm L. Olsson died? Have I given enough information?
Thank you. (Also, just in case you see when their baby born in 1892 died, I'd like that information also.)
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« skrivet: 2003-10-27, 22:26 »
Thanks. The letter said that the roof was affected, and that the old man had never seen such drifts, although 7 meters sounds like an exaggeration, since their white-washed cottage was not 7 meters tall! Their home faced the fields, rye during the early 1890s, but sugar beets late in the decade, and if the wind was blowing toward the home, then some high drifts might have accumulated against the house.
Also, he mentioned that many old sheds had fallen down, due to the weight of the snow. Then he mentioned that the wood that had collapsed could be cut up to use as firewood in the stove - to make their coffee. Those old Swedes didn't waste anything.
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« skrivet: 2003-10-27, 17:33 »
I am trying to date a letter from my great-great-grandfather. I know that it is from 1894 because he said that he would turn 70 that next November. He lived in Gärdslöv parish in the south of Sweden, and he said that the rye was far along, and it had set ears much earlier than in other seasons. Also, he referred to one of their late spring storms, and the snow had risen up to 12 alnar. I think that he was talking about a storm that had happened awhile ago, but the ripening rye was happening at the time of the letter composition.
When would rye set ears in a normal year? And how much snow would 12 alnar equal?
Thanks so much!
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« skrivet: 2003-10-15, 21:23 »
Thank you. The letters that I have inherited started to spell Carolina with a K around 1910, and the younger Nils Gustav began using the v, but his grandfather used an f
I'll have to buy that Cradled in Sweden book. It sounds very useful.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2003-10-15, 12:47 »
Thank you. I apolgize for forgetting to give their dates of birth, but I am sure that the Mathilda mentioned was the person I want. I am not sure about the Hansson name, since Martin was his common name and I do not know his legal name. I will need to find his death certificate to look for that, and to find out exactly when he was born. His naturalization certificate will tell me where he came from, and a peek into the 1900 U.S. census might tell me about his immigration too. Thanks!
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« skrivet: 2003-10-15, 01:36 »
I read this awhile ago, but I can't find it now, so I'll ask for an explanation again. When were the major Swedish spelling changes made, and why? Example: the word Gerdslöf became Gärdslöv, Gustaf became Gustav, Carolina became Karolina, Carlberg became Karlberg, etc. I realize that word usage gradually changes over time, and old fashioned words are used by the older generation, but why were all of these spelling changes instituted, and when? Who made the rules, and were they forced upon the schools, so that all Swedes after a certain date began spelling things the same?
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« skrivet: 2003-10-15, 01:25 »
Morten Hanson (Hansson) married Matilda Ahlgren after they emigrated to Rockford, Illinois. Morten left Gärdslöv parish, Näsbyholm estate, in 1886. Matilda also left that year. Can anyone see if they emigrated together? I have a photo of two unidentified relatives, and I think it might be of Morten and Matilda, having their photo taken in Malmö, as a memory to their families. Also, Morten Hansson's father's name was Hans Martinsson, so there may be a problem finding Mort in the emigrant database. I'm unsure why they didn't have a set family name by the 1880s.
Thanks for any help you can give.
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« skrivet: 2003-10-14, 22:36 »
Many people from Rötter have helped me with translations, and the letters are fascinating! They are a peek into a different era and way of life: they tell about the emptying of the countryside as everyone emigrates or moves away, the move to raising sugar beets and the building of beet factories in the south, the poverty that the rural countryside faced as their wages to pick the crops dropped very low, the hard work that women faced as they were forced to work for the estate, and messengers who were talking about socialism. I am so happy that these letters are being translated! Thanks to all of the volunteers who have read them. I feel like I am touching my ancestors, and also that I am experiencing history!
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« skrivet: 2003-10-09, 20:34 »
Thanks to all of you! This has helped me understand the type of life my ancestors had. Their letters talk about laundry duties, carpentry, caring for the sick, and general work at the manorhouse. They were always short of cash, and expected their grown children to send home coins to help the family. They did raise crops and have a cow, and I think they kept the crops for their own use. When Gustaf took over the property in 1899, after his grandfather died, he did not mention that he signed another contract, but I'm sure he must have done so. All of the men were carpenters and woodworkers, along with doing their other duties on the estate. The women sewed, and performed whatever duties were expected of them. A hard life it was!
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« skrivet: 2003-10-09, 11:26 »
Her mother was still alive in 1925 when the family lost contact with them. In 1925, her mother, Johanna Ahlgren, was living on the Nasbyholm estate with her son, Gustaf Ahlgren, but I do not know when Johanna died. Both Nils Gustaf and Hilma Elisabeth Ahlgren were born out of wedlock, and raised by their mother, Johanna, and their grandfather, Nils Gustaf Ahlgren (the elder) in the Gardslof parish.
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« skrivet: 2003-10-08, 22:11 »
My ancestors would be considered as members of the class of statare in southern Sweden - if I have used that term correctly. How did this type of land tenure develop, i.e. a home and a small piece of land in exchange for work on an estate? I know that there used to be both crown peasants and freehold peasants in the 17th century. Did these classes of peasants end up as statkarls (this word was used in my family's letters)?
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« skrivet: 2003-10-08, 21:54 »
Could anyone help me learn about Hilma Elisabeth Ahlgren? She was born in 1877 in Gärdslöv parish, then moved to Malmö when she was grown. She worked at the Kullans chocolate factory in June of 1904, when she was 27 years old, and was unmarried at that time.
I am having the family's letters translated, and Hilma does not write after this 1904 letter. We are wondering if she ever married, or what happened to her. I cannot find her listed in the Ellis Island files, so I do not think that she came to the U.S. Her address in 1904 was Föreningsgatan 19, Malmö. Her brother and mother continued writing to their American family, but there are few references to Hilma.
Thanks for any help that you can give me.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-26, 06:29 »
Thanks to everyone who has replied to my request! I am very grateful. Now that I have people who will help translate, I will organize these letters and begin to scan them - to see if they are readable in J-Peg format. I am unsure how many letters I have - probably around 30 letters that range between 4 pages and 10 pages each. After I get them scanned, then I will decide who to forward each one to. Some of the letters have become separated, so some pages may not seem to make sense because they belong to other letters!
Thanks to all of you!
Karen Kelsey
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« skrivet: 2003-09-24, 21:17 »
I have inherited letters and photos (small pictures mounted on cardboard) from my Swedish ancestors. I have tried to group the photographs by style of clothing, and that lets me match photographs with the letters. However, I am unable to date some of the clothing styles. I think they are from the 1900 - 1910 era, but I am unsure. Is anyone willing to let me send them a few photos using J-Peg format, so I could get help identifying the decade these were from?
Thank you.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-24, 21:05 »
I have inherited 40 years of letters written from two sisters, who did not emigrate, to their siblings in America. These letters are from the Ahlgren family, who were carpenters and seamstresses on the Nasbyholm estate in Gardslov parish, southern Sweden. I paid to have some of them translated here in the U.S., but I never received any of the finished translations, so I hesitate to send any more money. The letters begin in 1887 and end in 1925. Most are readable, but the early letters are in the old-sytle script and use many words that have passed out of style.
One person I met on this forum has translated one of the letters. Would anyone else be willing to help me translate these letters? Or is there any author trying to collect letters to those who emigrated? If so, I am willing to give you copies of these letters if I could just get them translated. I am a historian, but I doubt that I could learn the language well enough to translate them, then use them in a letters from the old country document that might be publishable.
Thank you for any ideas that you might give me.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-10, 12:56 »
Yes, I plan to learn Swedish, but any formal study must wait until next year, when I have more time. This year I will attempt to learn it from books, before I go to class, and that may help me translate. What poses a problem with letters from the late 19th century, however, is the changes in spelling and the script. C's have become K's, and a number of terms have passed out of style. Some words are more similar to German language than to modern Swedish. I plan to have these translated at some time and I will not destroy any of them. I have a degree in history so I recognize their value, and I am excited about using some of their content in the family history that I am writing.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-10, 02:12 »
There have been many museum exhibits that show both the material and social contributions of immigrants to the culture of their adopted country. However, these exhibits seldom reveal the longing for the old country that stays with them throughout their lives. During their youth the immigrants are busy with friends and family- with trying to make a living in a new country- but in their old age, when the excitement of their youth has passed them by, then they begin to think about their native country - what it looked like, the relatives who were a part of their past, and the culture of the country they sailed away from. I find that the things they leave behind are a clue to this longing, a physical tie to their youth. My great-grandparents left us a leather box of letters from Sweden, rolled and tied with a satin ribbon. I wish I could read them! We also have inherited postcards from Denmark, musical instruments, Danish books of poetry, a clock, a hand-carved cigarette rolling machine, their family Bibles, and numerous items that reminded the old folks of their first home. It feels good to touch those things, like I am touching both my own past and their past too.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-09, 12:39 »
What were the economic and social conditions in Sweden at the end of the 19th century that caused such a high percentage of the population to emigrate? Could the land not support the expanded population, or was land ownership in the hands of a few wealthy, and many were unable to get their own property? Was there little opportunity for advancement in the towns and cities, within a developing merchant or business class?
Karen
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« skrivet: 2003-09-08, 19:23 »
Thanks so much! I have gotten many ideas and I will order the Cradled in Sweden book. It will be a challenge to learn as much as possible, before I travel to Denmark and Sweden.
Karen
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« skrivet: 2003-09-08, 13:37 »
Thanks for the information about Matilda and Anders Wilhelm. Yes, the Anders V. Ahlgren did emigrate in 1891; I had typed the date incorrectly. His name was spelled Anders Vilhelm in Sweden, but it was changed to William Anders here in the U.S. I will write to the Malmo City ARchives to find the other emigrants.
Thanks again - Karen
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« skrivet: 2003-09-07, 23:53 »
How do I begin learning about the various sources for genealogical research in Sweden? I read these discussions and find that there are a variety of sources, many available on CDs. I have used the Danish emigration archives, and I know those databases also are available in Sweden, probably on CD. But the various population census, parish census, tax records, court documents, etc. are confusing me.
Is there one source that I can read to help me understand this? I would like to learn about these sources, and to learn a little about the language, before I visit Sweden.
Thanks in advance!
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« skrivet: 2003-09-07, 23:28 »
Perhaps the two sons of the family emigrated because they would not get any land from the estate. At the time they emigrated (1887 & 1891) their father was alive, and they had a nephew living with them who was being cared for by the family. The nephew had been born out of wedlock and ended up living on the estate for many years, after his grandfather died and after all of his uncles and aunts emigrated or moved to Malmo or Stockholm.
Thank you for the answer.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-07, 23:20 »
Thank you, Maud! I knew the above address because I have letters from Karolina, but I did not know the names of her children or her husband. I know that 17 Malmskillnadsgaten is now the location of a business district, and that #17 is the entrance to a bank.
It is interesting that in 1900 Karolina named a baby Syster Ebba Maria. In 1899 one of the sisters who emigrated, Anna Maria, had a child named Ebba; that child died at the age of three months. Karolina named her baby after both this dead child and after her sister's name, Maria. That baby died too!
I have 40 years of Swedish letters from that family, and I will pull out one of the letters from the summer of 1901 and pay to have it translated. It should tell about the baby's death.
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« skrivet: 2003-09-07, 02:45 »
My ancestors lived on an entailed estate from the 1870s to the 1920's or 1930's. Could anyone explain this term? They lived on the Sjohus property of the Nasbyholm estate in the Gerdslov/Gardslov parish of Scane, and they signed their Christmas letters saying, Greetings from the family on the Ahlgren entailed estate.
Karen Kelsey
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« skrivet: 2003-09-06, 16:43 »
I am interested in the Ahlgren family from the Gardslov Parish in Scane, the Sjohus property of the Nasbyholm estate. (I do not have a Swedish character set, so I cannot make the correct Swedish letters- I apologize.)
The family I am studying is:
Father: Nils Ahlgren 1824 - 1899, a carpenter who did not emigrate
Mother: unknown - died sometime in the 1870's
Six Ahlgren children-
1)Johanna 1852 - ? (did not emigrate and lived in Gardslov, then Malmo - St. Pauli parish, then back to Gardslov, Nasbyholm) She had two children out of wedlock: Hilma Elisabeth Alhgren (b. 1877) and Nils Gustaf Ahlgren (b. 1879). Gustaf was living on the Nasbyholm estate as a carpenter in the 1920s.
2)Olof Peter 1854 - ? (emigrated to N.America 8/1887) with wife Gunhild Ahlgren. The ship and port of departure are unknown.
3)Anna Marie 1857 - 1925 (emigrated to N.America in 1887) She does not appear in the Gardslov records in the 1880s, so she may have moved to Malmo and been listed in a parish there. She is my great grandmother.
4)Matilda 1860 - 1907 (emigrated to N.America in 10/1886). Ship and port of departure are unknown.
5)Karolina 1864 - ? (did not emigrate and moved from Gardslov to Malmo, St. Petri parish in 1887, then moved to Stockholm later in her life - I have two addresses from Stockholm)
6)Anders Wilhelm 1870 - 1949 (emigrated 8/1881). He was a carpenter and master woodworker too.
Any help with information about this family would be appreciated. I am considering a trip to the Lund archives to search for them - if I cannot find help via the Internet.
Karen Kelsey
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