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Författare Ämne: Emma I. Sjostrom's maiden name?  (läst 1539 gånger)

2009-07-13, 01:02
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Paul Robert Gottfrid Sjostrom 1st (born 9/1859) married Emma I. abt. 1884 in Sweden. I would like to find out Emma's maiden name, parents' names, religion, or any other information from their marriage certificate. They lived in the USA before and after their marriage and it is unknown why they came to Sweden for their marriage.

2009-07-13, 10:29
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I did manage to find Paul Sjöström in Sweden, he was born 27 Sept 1859 to factory owner Lars Ludvig Gustaf Sjöström and wife Maria Norelius in Strömsfors, Stoby parish, Kristianstad County. His father died in 1910 in Marielund, Miami, FL where he was a plantation owner, having emigrated sometme between 1867 and 1869. There were several siblings. But as to why he married in Sweden I do not know yet, if they came for a visit they will not be recorded in the population registers.
 
The Danish emigration registers show Robert and mother emigrating via Copenhagen 8 May 1868 to Canada, the father went in 1869 to Sherbrooke, Canada.
 
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2009-07-13, 13:41
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The Sjöström family at Strömfors, Stoby, can be found in the  Stoby Clerical survey between 1858 and 1861,  pg 199,  GID 1478.2.91100. Of course this doesn't infom us about Paul Robert Gottfrid´s wife, but perhaps someone in Sweden is researching this family and can give a lead.  
 
 
 
More on Sjöström family is found at  http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=198041&st=1
 
A daughter Ebba Sofia indexed as born in Sweden 18 Oct. 1862, and a d. Gunilla b. about 1864 in Sweden, then a son born in Canada, abt. 1867, Iwar Ludvig; but even then a daugther in Sweden, Ellen Augusta 19 Sept. 1869.  A member of DIS states her born in USA.
 
I found an emigration record for Ebba and other family members in the CD Emigranten Popular. The husband, however, missing, but as Chris Bingefors posted earlier, he travelled in 1869.
 
Efternamn:   SJÖSTRÖM
Förnamn:     EBBA
Ålder:       3            Kön:  
Född: 1864/1865
Församling:  SVERIGE    Län:  
Titel/Anm:   DATTER
Utresehamn:  KÖPENHAMN
Utvandrdag:  1868 08 05
Destination: QUEBEC
Medåkande:    
Källkod:     388
 
Efternamn:   SJÖSTRÖM
Förnamn:     GUNILLA
Ålder:       2            Kön:  
Född: 1865/1866
Församling:  SVERIGE    Län:  
Titel/Anm:   DATTER
Utresehamn:  KÖPENHAMN
Utvandrdag:  1868 08 05
Destination: QUEBEC
Medåkande:    
Källkod:     388
 
Efternamn:   SJÖSTRÖM
Förnamn:     MARIE
Ålder:       31            Kön:  
Född: 1836/1837
Församling:  SVERIGE    Län:  
Titel/Anm:   FRUE
Utresehamn:  KÖPENHAMN
Utvandrdag:  1868 08 05
Destination: QUEBEC
Medåkande:    
Källkod:     388
 
Efternamn:   SJÖSTRÖM
Förnamn:     ROBERT
Ålder:       8            Kön:  
Född: 1859/1860
Församling:  SVERIGE    Län:  
Titel/Anm:   SÖN
Utresehamn:  KÖPENHAMN
Utvandrdag:  1868 08 05
Destination: QUEBEC
Medåkande:    
Källkod:     388
 
 
Efternamn:   SJÖSTRÖM
Förnamn:     SOPHIE
Ålder:       14            Kön:  
Född: 1853/1854
Församling:  SVERIGE    Län:  
Titel/Anm:   ?
Utresehamn:  KÖPENHAMN
Utvandrdag:  1868 08 05
Destination: QUEBEC
Medåkande:    
Källkod:     388
 
Efternamn:   SJÖSTRÖM
Förnamn:     WERNER
Ålder:       10            Kön:  
Född: 1857/1858
Församling:  SVERIGE    Län:  
Titel/Anm:   SÖN
Utresehamn:  KÖPENHAMN
Utvandrdag:  1868 08 05
Destination: QUEBEC
Medåkande:    
Källkod:     388
 
 
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birth records of three childen found via the free index of www.ddss.nu
 
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Born Stoby Parish
1778 - 1894
Date   1858-05-27   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   212514/DDSS
Child
Name   Carl Gustaf Werner   Gender   male
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   L. L. G. Sjöström
Title   herr fabrikör
Place   Strömsfors
   
   
Mother
Name   Catharina Maria E. Norelius
Title   
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   21
Witness at the Christening
Fru Fabrikörskan Mathilda Sjöström Herrar Fabrikör Gustaf Sjöström, Inspector C. J. Bergman, Fahnjunkare C. Rosentvist och Candidaterna R. Sjöström och T. Bosson samt Fru S. Ranberg och Mamsellerne E. Berg M. Jönsson och C. Kruse
Notes
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Stoby kyrkoarkiv  C:2   98 /  
Arcival institution   Page in Household records
Landsarkivet i Lund   
Text is difficult to decipher   Microfiche volyme no
Nej   
Sorce notes
 
 
 
Paul Robert:
 
 
Born Stoby Parish
1778 - 1894
Date   1859-09-27   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   212590/DDSS
Child
Name   Paul Robert Gothfrid   Gender   male
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   L. G. Sjöström
Title   hr fabrikör
Place   Strömsfors
   
   
Mother
Name   Cath. M. Norelius
Title   
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   22
Witness at the Christening
Bars till dopet af fadren vittnen voro Landtbrukaren W. Andersson, Inspectorn E. Lundgren och Sergeanten A Shciffert.
Notes
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Stoby kyrkoarkiv  C:2   103 /  
Arcival institution   Page in Household records
Landsarkivet i Lund   
Text is difficult to decipher   Microfiche volyme no
Nej   
Sorce notes
Other notes
General notes
Uppgifterna hämtade ur: Stoby C:1 1778-1832, Stoby C:2 1833-1860, Stoby C:4 1861-1878 samt Stoby C:5 1878-1894.
 
 
Born Stoby Parish
1778 - 1894
Date   1860-10-08   Date refers to   birth
   ID No/Rules   212667/DDSS
Child
Name   Thora Mathilda Elisabeth   Gender   female
Marital status of parents   marriage   Number born   
Stillborn      Parity   
Father
Name   L. Sjöström
Title   fabrikör
Place   Strömfors
   
   
Mother
Name   Marie Norelius
Title   fru
Place   
Age/Year of Birth   23
Witness at the Christening
Fru Augusta Rosentvist i Sandby. Sergeant Hafström, Fru B: Bergman, stadsfiskal Rosengren, Mamsell Filman, Hilma Sjöström.
Notes
 
Original source
Archives   Page number/Year index
Stoby kyrkoarkiv  C:2   108 /  
Arcival institution   Page in Household records
Landsarkivet i Lund   
Text is difficult to decipher   Microfiche volyme no
Nej   
Sorce notes
Other notes
General notes
Uppgifterna hämtade ur: Stoby C:1 1778-1832, Stoby C:2 1833-1860, Stoby C:4 1861-1878 samt Stoby C:5 1878-1894.

2009-07-13, 13:48
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The church records from Stoby telling us that Sjöström family went to Hjo parish on 12 April 1862. That parish is in Skaraborg´s county.
Source:  Stoby AI:10 pg 223, GID 1478.22.27500.

2009-07-13, 13:58
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Information given by Paul Robert in a passport application from 1910 informing us he came from Canada to US in 1881 and that he has been there uninterruptedly since that.So, did he really marry in Sweden?
 
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2009-07-13, 14:05
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Furthermore, Census 1900 tells us Emma was born in New York, her father born in Mass. and her mother in New York. Is this correct??

2009-07-13, 14:14
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My postings re. Sjöström´s seem to be inpertinent. Well, as Emma and Paul were American citizens when marrying, I fear we can never find a marriage record here if we not know where they married, thus parish??

2009-07-13, 14:34
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IF the 1900 census is right about Emma, she was born Dec 1861, parents as Bo has described above. Her middle initial should be I. Then there is one woman in the 1880 census who fits: Emma Wright in Oneonta, Otsego, New York, father John T Wright and mother Elizabeth. There are a couple of Emma with the middle imitial J as well, easy to transcribe wrongly.

2009-07-13, 15:28
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Thank you for confirming the information about Paul Robert Gottfrid Sjöström I. so quickly. I am curious what source you used and whether you are a relative. My father is Paul Robert Godfrey Sjöström III. Do you think the marriage records about Emma could be in Kristianstad, where most of my relatives lived? If they are, how could I get a copy?

2009-07-13, 15:44
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Kristianstad can be referred to as a county and a parish as well, but to find a marriage record we still need parish name and year. I have browsed the free index at www.ddss.nu but it is far from complete, as it comes to Kristianstad and Malmöhus county, in fact there are many parish records missing. Stoby, where Sjöströms resided once, is a parish of its own, and city of Kristianstad is about 30 km from there. Many parishes only comprise a very small geographic area. Well, perhaps we find something for you later on.
As it comes to myself, I use the index I mentioned, then Swedish Church Records online via the service of Genline (www.genline.com) - subscription service.
Emigration records available thru two CD:s, EMIBAS and Emigranten.
EMIBAS only includes those who leave a parish to go to a foreign country, means they belong to the Swedish Church - residing in a certain parish. Emigranten (later edition Emigranten Poplulär) reporting those who travelled via a Swedish port, and were registered by the port police.
I also used the Danish emigration records,free at  http://www.emiarch.dk/home.php3
For US Census I use Ancestry.com  (subscription service)
 
If we knew a year of marriage for sure, and a parish, we can browse the marriage records for that parish, but to try at haphazard is not very exciting.So sorry!
 
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2009-07-13, 15:52
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Chris, the lead about Emma Wright is very exciting. I will try to check this out.  The 1900 census information about her parents' birth locations is the same that I had found.

2009-07-13, 15:54
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Stoby and Kristianstad have been checked via marriage index at www.ddss.nu, in vain. In fact, no findings in the entire database of DDSS. As I said, many parish records not included.

2009-07-13, 16:38
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I tend to agree with Bo that is is unlikely that they married in Sweden since Emma has no Swedish background. To travel together before marriage would have been highly ususual in those days. Do you have a reliable source saying that they did marry in Sweden?
 
Another place to look, just to cover all possibilities is Hjo, where they moved according to Bo´s records.
 
They did go back to Sweden in 1910, but I have not found any leads there - since they were American citizens, no background information on where they came from in Sweden is given in the manifest.

2009-07-13, 16:43
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I have tried to alert two amateur genealogists, who appear to research the Sjöström family,perhaps they have some details to add. (Well, I'm an amateur myself, you know.)
 
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2009-08-29, 21:35
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I have found confirmation in an obituary that Emma's maiden name was Emma Irene Wright. They were married in the USA in 1883. Again, I want to thank Chris and Bo for all their help. Kris

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