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Författare Ämne: Bulmering from Gotland  (läst 2832 gånger)

2009-11-13, 04:29
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Hej!
 
Christina Bulmering was born abt. 1620-1624 and it is said, that she came from Gotland.
1641 she married Dirich Block in L?beck, later around 1658 Friedrich Strodtmann.
 
I'm looking for her ancesters in (Visby?) Gotland.
 
Thanks for help.
 
Michael

2009-11-16, 14:34
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Christina must be the daugther to Steffen Bulmering born 1580-1600 in Lubeck Germany, came to Gotland
lived in Visby 1659, had one son Ewert died 1686 in Visby, the wife born 1628 in Lubeck died in visby 1691, had 10 children, Ewert, Peter, Gertrud, Elisabeth,
Anna and 5 more. From an old family book.

2009-11-16, 18:45
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Thank you, Sune, for your hint.
But there are some questions that must be clarified.
In the archieves of Lübeck I found a family-tree from 18th century concerning Bulmering.
It looks like Christina (* abt. 1620), Steffen (* 1610) and Ewert (* abt. 1615) had been brothers and sister  
- but no named father, only from Gotland for all three was noticed.
 
When Steffen was baptized in Lübeck, church of St.Aegidien, his father was named 'Peter'
 
Ewert was 'Holzvogt in Lübeck' and administrator of an estate 15 km south of Lübeck; around 1670 he must have gone with his family to Visby, where he died in 1686. His son Eberhard was born 1648 in Lübeck and died 1724 in Visby.
As a second name of Ewert I found 'Ewert Stefenson Bulmering', so his father would be indeed another Steffen (brother of the upper 'Peter'??)
 
And where is my Christina from? Was she named in that family-book?
 
I hope to find some help from a Visby-expert for these early Bulmerings.
 
Michael

2009-11-17, 12:17
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Hi Michael, very nice to here from you (far-away-relative?).  
 
Was it you that I had contact with earlier concerning the Bulmering family?  
Did you send me the Bulmering family tree? I think it was someone else from California. Where do you live? I live in Old Uppsala, Sweden. My father was born on Gotland. You can find my relation to the Bulmering family on my webpage www.freewebs.com/simander in the link to the left on that side about my farfars släkt (=family). Did I send you my information about the Bulmering family?
 
I started to prepare an article about the family Bulmering as soon as I saw your question here, but I figured out that I had to write some more in my database before publishing it here in Anbytarforum under Släkter (Families). I hope to be done with that as soon as possible.
 
Thanks Sune for answering in the meanwhile. Christina is not mentioned in that family-book I don't think. But my guess was that she was a sister of Stefan and Ewert, which seems to fit with Michael's thoughts above.
 
I don't know of what worth the note is about Christina coming from Gotland. When was that written down? Where does it say so, what source? What time should she been leaving Gotland?
 
I always thought the Bulmering family came from Lübeck originally, but according to this source Christina could have been born in Gotland then? In such a case presumably in Visby, if at all from Gotland, which I still doubt.
 
I will start a new discussion here in the swedish part of Anbytarforum under Släkter (Families) with my information about the Bulmering family. Maybe you can put your information there too or kindly send it to me?  
 
Now I found a letter about the Bulmering, is this from you?
 
Nachkommen von Peter? Bulmering auf Gotland
 
                  
 
1   Peter? Bulmering auf Gotland“? (ca. 1580 bis 1640) geboren in Lübeck?? gestorben auf Gotland??
 
Kinder:            
I.. 2a  Christina Bulmering,  * ca. 1630 auf Gothland, † 1714 in Lübeck   
... oo 1641 Marienkirche Lübeck  Dirich Block, † 1658   
... *2. Ehemann von Christina Bulmering:            
... oo ca. 1658 in Lübeck  Friedrich Strodtmann,  * ca. 1628 in Ponnts(?),  † 6.10.1668 in Lübeck,
                                    Beruf: Seidenhändler
       Kinder:  
...... 3a  Catharina Strodtmann,  * 16.5.1662 in Lübeck, † 1722 in Lübeck   
...... oo 4.11.1689 in Lübeck  Hinrich Green,  * 21.3.1662 in Lübeck, † 1723,  Beruf: Brauer
...... 3b  Maria Strodtmann,  * ca. 1660, † 1726   
...... oo  Gabriel Albrecht,  * ca. 1655, † 1720,  Beruf: Kaufmann
...... 3c  Hinrich Strodtmann,  * ca. 1662,  Beruf: Gewürzhändler
...... oo Heilwig Stehn            
...... *2. Ehefrau von Hinrich Strodtmann:            
...... oo Catharina Hanstech,  * ca. 1670      
...... 3d  Friedrich Strodtmann,  * ca. 1664,  † 1746,  Beruf: Kaufmann
...... oo Christine Hanstech,  * ca. 1670
         
II. 2b  Steffen Bulmering,   * 10.1.1610  Tfb. Aegidienkirche [Sohn des Peter Bulmering“ !!]   
... oo  1640 in Lübeck, Marienkirche,  Emerentia Köster,  * ca. 1615, † 1640, keine Kinder   
... *2. Ehefrau von Steffen Bulmering:            
... oo  1643 in Lübeck, Marienkirche,  Anna Hinzen,  * ca. 1620   
       Kinder:
...... 3a  Anna Bulmering,  * 1644, † 1728   
...... oo 1662  Johann Brockmann, † vor 1700 in Lübeck,  Beruf: Gewürzhändler
...... 3b  Catharina Bulmering,  * 1645, † vor 1700   
...... oo 1.3.1669 in Lübeck  Jürgen Stake, † vor 1683   
...... 3c  Margareta Bulmering,  * 9.1646, † 26.10.1718 in Lübeck   
...... oo 1672 Hans Havemann,  * ca. 1640, † 30.7.1709 in Lübeck,  Beruf: Handelsmann
...... 3d  Susanna Bulmering            
...... oo Jacob Klüver            
...... *2. Ehemann von Susanna Bulmering:            
...... oo 14.6.1675 in Lübeck  Hinrich Wegener,  Beruf: Handelsmann
         
...... 3e  Peter Bulmering,  * ca. 1651, † 28.8.1718 in Lübeck,  Beruf: Handelsmann in der Mengstr. 78  
...... oo 28.2.1681 in Lübeck   Dorothea Bertram, * ca. 1660 in Braunschweig?, Verwitwete Müller
          Kinder:
......... 4a  Dorothea Regina Bulmering,  * 14.1.1683, † 1716 in Lübeck   
......... oo 22.10.1708  Johan Jacob Sporleder,  * in Schwerin
......... 4b  Peter Steffen Bulmering,  * 14.1.1683 (Zwilling) Tfb. Marienkirche
......... 4c  Peter Bulmering,  * 10.10.1692  Tfb. Marienkirche
      
...... *2. Ehefrau von Peter Bulmering:            
...... oo 1700 Lübeck  Elsabe Wiessendorp,  * ca. 1675,  † 1711 in Lübeck, Tochter des Kammerherrn  
                                    Peter Witzendorf;
          Kind:
......... 4d  Peter Alexander,  * 28.1.1702,  Tfb. Marienkirche
 
...... *3. Ehefrau von Peter Bulmering:            
...... oo 25.5.1716 in Lübeck   Elsabe Schulten, † 1734 in Lübeck, Wwe. des Brauers Hinrich Plön,  
       
...... 3f  Dorothea Bulmering,  * 11.3.1654,  20.11.1699
...... oo10.11.1679 in Lübeck  Hinrich Eckhoff,  Beruf Seidenkrämer
...... *2 Ehemann von Dorothea Bulmering
...... oo 15.3.1697 in Lübeck  Hermann Focke, † 20.5.1701, Ratsverwandter
         
...... 3g  Christina Bulmering, † vor 1700
...... oo 17.10.1681  Asmus Sperling, † 1696
            
III. 2c Eberhard (Evert) Bulmering ,  * ca. 1615
... oo 21.2.1646 in Lübeck  Gertrud Bockholte,  * 1628, Eltern: Evert Bockholt und Gertrud von Lengerke,  
                     Tochter des Bürgermeisters zu Kiel Ameling von Lengerke
       Kinder:
...... 3a  Margareta Bulmering,  * ca. 1647         
...... oo Jacob Willig  
...... 3b  Magdalena Bulmering,  * ca. 1649            
...... oo Detlev Steffen            
...... 3c  Dorothea Bulmering,  * ca. 1651
...... 3d  Anton Bulmering,  * ca. 1653, †1710 in Riga, Beruf: Kaufmann in Riga  
...... oo Catharina von Damm,  * 17.3.1664 in Pernau/Bernau?  bzw. in Riga?,  † 3.4.1701
          Kinder:          
......... 4a  Anna Bulmering            
......... oo Hermannus Müller,  * 1710,  Beruf: Prediger
......... *2. Ehemann von Anna Bulmering:            
......... oo Johann Hinrichsen,  Beruf: Handelsmann
 
......... 4b  Eberhard (Evert) Bulmering,  * 23.4.1686 in Riga, † 29.3.1745 (15.5.1745) in Riga,  Beruf:  
                     Kaufmann in Riga, Ältester 1720, Ratsherr 1741-45, Quartierherr;
......... oo 24.1.1716  in Riga? Anna Catharina Bartels, verw. Huickelhoven,  * 30.3.1682 in Riga,    
                            †   9.11.1730 in Riga, Eltern: Hans Bartels und Anna Pfortmann   
             Kinder:         
............ 5a  Anton Bulmering,  * 24.2.1724 in Riga, † 18.7.1791 in Riga,  Beruf: Kaufmann in Riga,  
                        Ratsherr in Riga 1773, Obersekretär und Landvogt;
............ oo Helene Elisabeth von Holst, Tochter des Bürgermeisters in Riga Johann von Holst;
               Kind:
 
 
   
.............. 6  Johann Valentin Bulmering,  * 27.6.1760 in Riga, † 4.6.1827 in Riga, Studium in Göttingen und  
                Leipzig, Beruf: 1782 Auscultant in der Kanzlei des Rats, 1786 Sekretär, 1797 Ratsherr, 1801  
                Obervogt, Bürgermeister 1807
.............. oo 1796 in Riga  Cath. Wendula von Niemann,  * 1776, † November 1834 in Riga
 
............ 5b Michael Bulmerincq,  * 20.1.1722 in Riga, † 26.5.1773 in Riga
   
......... 4c  Gertrud Bulmering            
......... oo NN            
......... 4d  Catharina Bulmering            
......... oo NN   
         
......... 4e??  Elisabeth Bulmering   * ca.1690?  
......... oo Johann Friedrich Strodtmann, † 30.1.1746 in Lübeck
   
......... *2. Ehemann von Elisabeth Bulmering:            
......... oo Jürgen Jenkel,  Beruf: Handelsmann zu Lübeck
         
...... 3e  Hermann Bulmering,  *  ca. 1655, † vor 1677   
...... 3f  Steffen Bulmering,  * ca. 1657 † vor 1677   
...... 3g  Eberhard (Evert) Bulmering , * um 1648?,  † 4.2.1724 in Visby  
...... oo  4.12.1677 in Visby  Barbara Maria Schmidt,  * 1660, † 1717
          Kinder:
......... 4a  Anton Bulmering,  * 1682 in Visby, † 1755 in Visby; 1746 Bürgermeister in Visby,  
......... oo 1710 in Visby  Elisabeth Köhler
         Kinder:
............ 5a  Elisabeth Bulmering  * ca. 1715?
............ oo Johann Friedrich Strodtmann, † 30.1.1746 in Lübeck
............ 5b  Maria Bulmering
............ 5c  Helene Bulmering,  * 1720 in Visby
............ oo 1744  Eric Molander,  * 1713
............ 5d  Ingrid Bulmering,  * 6.4.1723 in Visby, † 2.4.1809 in Barlingbo
............ 5e  Dorothea Bulmering,  * 1725, † 1803
............ 5f  Aurora Bulmering,  * 25.12.1726 in Visby, † 25.5.1805 in Prästgården,
............ oo 11.10.1750 in Visby Nilsson Lundberg,  * 1708, † 1791
............ 5g?  Anton Bulmering,   * 1.3.1717 in Visby, † 17.4.1787 (fs)
............ oo Christina Persson (fs)
           Kind:
............... 6  Anton Bulmering  * 1798 in Veskinde (fs)
............... oo 1.2.1824  Christina Elisabeth LeMoine (Stina Lisa Ledin)
 
......... 4b  Barbara Maria Bulmering,  * 5.11.1684 in Visby, † vor 1709
......... oo 13.7.1705 in Visby  Jacob Toftenius,  * 1677 in Prästgården,  † 1733 in Prästgården
         Kind:
............ 5  Barbara Maria Toftenius,  * 1706,  † 1770
............ oo 1724  Gustaf Börjeson
 
 
 
...... *2. Ehefrau von Evert Bulmering:
...... oo 20.2.1718  Anna Oxenwaldt,  * 1692,  † 1780
          Kind:
......... 4c  Dorothea Bulmering
......... oo 5.2.1713  Gustav Schmidt
         Kind:
............ 5  Christina Charlotta Schmidt,  * 1722,   1775  
 
......... 4a?  Evert Bulmering?               
......... 4b,c,d?  3 Töchter Bulmering?
            
...... 3h  Gertrud Bulmering,  * ca. 1652, † 1737 in Visby            
...... oo in Holstein/ ca. 1678 in Lübeck  Daniel Budendorp, † 1716      
...... 3i  Elisabeth Dorothea Bulmering,  * 1662 in Lübeck, † 1743 in Visby            
...... oo in Visby  Johann Kahl      
...... 3j  Anna Catharina Bulmering,  * 1662 in Lübeck, † 1743 in Visby
...... oo 1692 in Visby  Hans Bull(e),  * 1666, † 1717
          Kinder:
......... 4a  Hans Anton Bull,  * 1694,  † 1766
......... oo 1720 Elisabeth Köhler,  * 1701, † 1780
         Kinder:
............ 5a  Katarina Bull,  * 1725, † 1792
............ oo 1749  Lars Malmsten
............ 5b  Christina Elisabeth Bull,  * 1736, † 1811
 
......... 4b  Eberhard Hermann Bull,  * 1698,  † 1726
......... 4c  Johann Jörgen Bull,  * 1702,  † 1746   
 
 
 
 
Vorkommen Bulmering in allen Schreibweisen  (z.B. Wulmering)
 
Bolmeringes, Anna  als Patin  (6.3.1659 als Jungfrau“ = Anna Catharina B., spätere Ehefrau von Hans Bulle?; 1656 als Kaufmannsfrau“ =  Anna Hinze, Ehefrau von Steffen?)
 
Bulmeringk, Peter (Soldat) als Vater im Tfb. Aegidien-Kirche, Ehefrau: Margarete,  Sohn: Steffen; 10.1.1670
 
Bulmering, Peter (Fuhrmann) Copulation mit Margaretha Ernst, Cantate 1667, Marien Cop. Reg. S. 66, 22
Beide starben vor 1699,2 Kinder lebten 1699: Christina und Peter (Niederstadtbuch 1699)
 
Bulmering, Peter als Pate im Taufbuch Jacobi genannt: 13.5.1674 , S. 66  und  29.9.1677,  S. 217
 
Bullmering, Anna Maria  Copulation mit Hinrich Witzendorf  (Wiessendorp) 1662, Marien Cop. Reg. S. 20, 10
Vater: Peter Bulmering  (gest. 1684?), Mutter: Anna Kostrings(?),  Tochter von Hinrich K. und Maria Rodden
 
Bulmering, Michael  lebte 1678
 
 
Quellen:
Genealogisches Register  nach Johann Hermann Schnobel (1727-1802),  Handschrift, Stadtarchiv Lübeck,
dazu Ergänzung N.N. Stiegmann, Lübeck, 1949
Personenkartei Stadtarchiv Lübeck
Internet, familysearch (fs)
Mitteilungen Gilbert von Studnitz, Kalifornien, USA, 2006
Mitteilungen René von Bulmerincq, Berlin, 2006
 
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2009-11-17, 15:19
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Hi, Stefan, that's right, we had a contact three or four years ago and that 'Peter Bulmering'-list I sent to you.
 
Now I started a new action to clarify the early Bulmerings in Lübeck and/or Visby.
 
My source still is the Stadtarchiv Lübeck, where I found a note Christina Bulmering von Gothland when she was married to Friedrich Strodtmann in 1658 and another note by J.H. Schnobel, when he about 1790 put Christina, Steffen and Ewert [Eberhard] Bulmering in one sister-brother-line in that family-tree - without any birth-day and without a father's name! He only put them together by a bracket; but obviously Schnobel didn't know the exact connection.  
Only in the churchbook of St. Aegidien 1610 the name of Steffen's father was given as 'Peter'. Might be that there was another Steffen that time? Of same age?
 
So this was the reason now to move to Sweden (anbytaforum), to Gotland, to find better sources for my Bulmering research on that island. Who are the fathers of that three? In Lübeck I didn't find.  
And I think it will be very good, if you start a new discussion the swedish way on anbytaforum. What do they know about Bulmerings in Visby between apr. 1550 to 1650?
[Very early Bulmering should have come from Scotland??]
 
By the way, I have a new enlarged list of Bulmerings and I will send it to your eMail address.  
 
I hear from you, perhaps off the board.
 
Michael

2009-11-18, 02:48
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Thank you very much, Michael for your answer here and for your updated e-mail with all the new information about the Bulmering family. I am looking forward to see if there is any solution to this problem about their ancestry!  
 
There is one expert in Stockholm, that knows the most about medieval Visby and the people living there and his name is Dick Wase. Maybe you can check with him if he knows more now than before, but I rather doubt it. I don't have his e-mail, but I think it is easy to find! He had an own homepage too.  
 
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2009-11-30, 11:07
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Hej Stefan!
 
I found the homepage of Dick Wase and learnt a lot about live.
I mailed him, but up to now no reaction, he might be too busy with the other subject...
 
Did you start a new  swedish Bulmering-discussion on Anbytarforum? Some Gotland-experts should give us advice

2009-11-30, 16:43
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Hej Michael! I have not started it yet, but I am working on it! I want to put as much information in to it as possible. And I have been in Beijing for a historical week as well. And school is going into a hectic period with autumn semester grades, but soon I will start it! Hope that will be ok for you!?
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2009-12-01, 10:46
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That's OK, old family-researchers are trained with patience and young students have priority: they want to know everything at once. I hope so.

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