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[Maggie Duck]

hi there
I am searching for information on Gustaf Petterson born 1835, died 1902. Gustaf married Elisabeth Landroth, Elisabeth was born approx 1848 and died in 1932. They had four children, Elsa born 1887 in Sweden and died 1971 in Sweden she married Mauritz Andersson born 1883(four children Kurt, Bengt, Karin and Elsa Brife)Ivor born 1882 I don't have much info on him, Svante born 1876 in County Upland and died 1936 Australia he married Elsa Horlin born approx 1878 Sweden and died 1908 Sweden, (1 child Justa Landroth)and Karl born 1889 in Goteborg and died 1979 in Australia he married an Australian lady Florence Lindsay (two children Ronald and Iris. Svante and Karl immigrated to Australia and died in Australia. I would love the full details of birth death and marriage if anyone recognise these names thank you

[Cecilia Månsson]

Hello Maggie,
 
Gustaf Pettersson, born 1835 in Herrestad parish, Östergötland county. Wife Elisabet (no last name), born 1847 in Stockholm, children: Svante Gustaf Erik born 1876, Per Gustaf Ivar born 1883, Elsa Maria Elisabet b. 1888 and Karl Gustaf Adolf b.1889 - all children were born in Stockholm; county of Uppland. In 1890 they were living at Trollhättan no.12, Jakob och Johannes Rote 7, Stockholm. (From CD Sveriges Befolkning 1890.
 
I think this is your Elsa: Elsa Maria Elisabet Andersson, b. Feb 27, 1888 in Jakob parish, Stockholm. Died Sep.11, 1971 in Lidingö parish, Stockholm. Her husband (no name) died on Sep.17, 1963. Elsa's address in 1971 was Agav.12, 181 38 Lidingö.
 
This is what I found for you today, hopefully it gives you enough information to find your long lost cousins over here!
 
Good luck,
Cecilia

[Anders Andersson]

In Swedish, Uppland is known as a landskap, which we usually translate as province in English. The provinces have no political or administrative significance today, but are deeply rooted in the minds of their inhabitants. The term county is a common translation for län (an administrative division of about the same size as a landskap, but often with different boundaries).
 
The city of Stockholm actually sits on the boundary between Uppland and Södermanland provinces, with the northern half of Stockholm (including Gamla Stan with the royal palace) in Uppland. With respect to administrative divisions, the city of Stockholm has been located entirely in Stockholm county since 1968 (before that, the city formed an administrative division of its own besides the counties, and was then an enclave within Stockholm county, much like the Australian Capital Territory is still an enclave within New South Wales).

[Maggie Duck]

hi Cecilia thank you very much for the information, you have all the correct information regarding father and the children. Elsa married Mauritz Andersson, how can I find the details for Gustaf's wife and Elsa's children. Could you be able to give me any details on Svante's wife Elsa Horlin and son Justa, she died in childbirth. Karl Gustaf Adolf is my granddad I have his full details also Svante through their naturalization papers. I didn't have Elsa or Ivor details.
I'm trying to find informaton on Elisabeth her surname was Landroth. Two of her children Karl and Svante and a nephew took on her surname. I don't know quite why.

[Maggie Duck]

Hi Anders
Thank you for your information on Stockholm so if I was to do the 1890 census which should i be looking in?
You have the same surname as my granddad's sister's husband. She was Elsa Petterson and she married Mauritz Andersson, are you any relation? Their children was Kurt, Bengt, Karin and Elsa Brife.

[Cecilia Månsson]

Hi Anders (and Maggie),
 
Ooops.. did not notice that mistake when I wrote my message.. too busy checking dates I guess. Thanks for pointing this out to Maggie!
 
Cecilia

[Cecilia Månsson]

Hello Maggie,
 
One thing you could do is check the directory for Landroth's today if you are sure that is the name your family had. Go to:
 
http://privatpersoner.eniro.se/
 
and type the last name Landroth in the box that says efternamn. I got 6 matches, hopefully at least one is a relative of yours!
 
Cecilia

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Maggie,
 
I found some of your persons at the CD Byried in Stockholm  
 
All in the same grave
--
Pettersson (b. Landroth), Elisabeth
Widow
Buried 26/1 1932 on Norra begravningsplatsen (area 7A, nr 129).
--
Pettersson, Gustaf
bandmaster
Buried 10/11 1902 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 7A, nr 129).
--
Pettersson, Anna E.
Child
Buried 29/11 1885 på Norra begravningsplatsen (Area 7A, nr 129).
--
Pettersson, Maria E.
Child
Buried 28/3 1883 på Norra begravningsplatsen (Area 7A, nr 129).
--
Pettersson, Per Gustaf I.
Gentleman
Buried 14/7 1928 på Norra begravningsplatsen (Area 7A, nr 129).
--
1910-12-12
Andersson, Curt Mauritz
engineer
Born 12/12 1910
Died 23/11 1969 i Sundbyberg, Sundbybergs kn, Stockholms län.
Buried 30/5 1970 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 7A, nr 129).
--
Landroth, Anna Brigitta (could this be Elisabeths mother?)
widow
Buried 12/11 1886 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 7A, nr 129).
--
Landroth, Sven (could this be Elisabeths father?)
factory owner
Buried 4/3 1863 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 7A, nr 129).
--
Nyberg, Anna Greta
Widow
Buried 25/11 1871 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 7A, nr 129).
 
At the CD for Klara area in Stockholm 1878-1926 I found some information
 
Anna Birgitta Landroth born 21th of November 1800 in Stockholm.  
She is coming to Klara Norra Kyrkogata in January 1879 from Jakob parish. She is a factory widow
She is moving out in november 1883 to Tegnér
 
Gustaf Pettersson born 17th of December 1835 in Herrestad, died 4 of November 1902
Wife
Elisabeth Pettersson/Landroth/ born 27th of September 1847 in Maria parish (southern part of Stockholm City)
children
Elsa Maria Elisabeth Pettersson born 27th of February 1888 in Johannes parish
Karl Gustaf Adolf Pettersson/Landroth born 20th of July 1889 in Johannes parish (seaman)
They came to Hötorget 28th of October 1901 and they left 18th of October 1905
Svante Gustaf Erik Landroth born 30th of October 1876 also lived at the same adress but he moved 11th of November 1902.
 
Regarding the register over people living in Stockholm 1800-1870
 
Sven Landroth born 27th of December 1795 he had a silk factory
with him lived Anna Birgitta.
 
I could not find Elisabeth though.
 
Lena

[Maggie Duck]

Hi Lena
Thank you very much for all the info you have found for me, it's really great. I've been trying to fill in the missing gaps on my dad's father's side. I am in Australia, my grandfather Karl and his brother Svante immigrated to Australia in 1913 and 1916. My grandfather married Florence Lindsay here whereas Svante married Elsa Horlin in Sweden she died in childbirth. I have email to my brother so he can show Dad and see if Dad can recognize Elisabeth Landroth's parents. You are marvellous thank you

[Maggie Duck]

Hi Celicia
a big thank you for all the info you gave me. I will have a look at the site you gave me, Yes my father is Ronald Landroth, his father was Karl Landroth. When Karl Landroth immigrated to Australia he took on his mother's surname don't know why
all the best from Maggie in Australia

[Eva Dahlberg]

Maggie, is the name of the Landroth son Justa a phonetic spelling or have you seen it in writing? When I read your first message I thought it was a daughter (as we have for example Justina as a girl's name) but as you mention the child as a son - it looks like a phonetic spelling of the name Gösta. But this son is in Australia right? He emigrated with his father Svante?
 
I've tried to find the emigrations of Karl and Svante on the cd Emigranten (the Emigrant) but I can't find them easily.
 
The easiest way for you to find relatives of Elsa is to ask the Stockholm City Archives for her estate inventory (bouppteckning) and also for the one above who probably is her son Kurt (Curt Mauritz Andersson). The estate inventory would list the heirs. You could also ask them to do some of the lookups necessary to fill in the gaps, but there is a fee for that.
 
Email stadsarkivet@ssa.stockholm.se
webpage (seems to be only in Swedish) www.ssa.stockholm.se
 
Good luck,
Eva

[Lorraine Sisk]

Hello Lena,
 
Sven Nilsson Loven was born 21 July 1864 in Österslöv parish, Kristianstad county.  He married 26 April 1891 in Adolp-Fredrik parish, Stockholm to Selma Elise Pettersson born 13 April 1865 in Dörby parish, Kalmar county.  Sven and Selma had a daughter, Signe, born 19 June 1896 in Stockholm who emigrated to the U.S. in 1917.  Their son, Harry, about whom I know very little, was born circa 1893 and worked in insurance in Stockholm.
 
Sven Loven died 19 April 1956 in Engelbrekts parish, Stockholm and Selma less than two months later on 14 June 1956.
 
I would be most grateful if you would check your CD of individuals buried in Stockholm for my relatives Sven, Selma and Harry Loven.
 
Thank you.
 
Kind regards,
Lorraine Sisk
Missouri, USA

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Lorraine,
 
Lucky you they where there
 
--
Lovén, Sven
turner
Buried 28/7 1956 on Skogskyrkogården (area 12, nr 2878).
 
--
Lovén (f. Pettersson), Selma Elise
Widow
Buried 28/7 1956 on Skogskyrkogården (arena 12, nr 2878).
 
Then I found a Harry Lovén working with insurance. I will take all persons who is in the same grave as him
 
--
Lovén, Sven Harry Viktor
Försäkringstjm (Insurans employee
Buried 28/5 1960 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 19C, nr 196).
 
--
Lovén (f. Söderberg), Astrid Concordia (this most be Harrys wife)
Wife
Buried 28/9 1957 på Norra begravningsplatsen (area 19C, nr 196).
 
rest of the people most be parents and sibblings to Astrid
 

 
Anna Charlotta, miss
Elin Teresia, miss
Julia Märta Maria, miss
Kristina Elisabet, tradelsman
Lydia Karolina, miss
Nils, carpenter
Nils Oscar, traffic inspektor
Ragnhild Sofia Constance, miss
Stina, widow

[Maggie Duck]

Hi Lena
Dad said it was Justa Landroth but I am not sure if he is right, I haven't seen it in writing but I have a photo of him, it in the Gamla Bilder then Bildgatan then Manniskor under the heading of photo of Elisabeth Landroth and group photo of Justa Landroth. Svante came to Australia alone in 22 Sept 1916 from Canada after he left Sweden He left the baby with a relative when his wife Elsa Horlin died in childbirth. Elsa died 18th June 1908. I will have a look at the site you gave me, you have done heaps for me and thank you.

[Lena Thelin]

Hi Maggie,
 
This is a long shot  
 
I found one family Hörlin in the cencus 1890 living in Stockholm with one daughter Elsa. I could be yours but I'm not shure
 
Homeparish: Hedvig Eleonora
Homestead: Rudan Mindre N:o 32
Kontrakt: Stockholms stad
County: Stockholm
Fam nr: 1
Ernst Alfred Hörlin b. 1849, reception clerk
wife
Aug:a Charl. Amal. b. Broman f. 1848
children
Karl Gunnar b. 1877
Elsa b. 1878
Ninni Charl. b. 1881
Lilly Ulrika b. 1882
Ingrid Maria b. 1883
Lisa Augusta b. 1886
the whole family is born in Stockholm
Fam nr: 2
Clara Elina Lundin b. 1863, maid
Fam nr: 3
Emma Christina Qvarnström b. 1870, maid
 
I found also the grave of family Hörlin but no Elsa in it.

[Anders Andersson]

Maggie, the last name Andersson is much too common in Sweden (say, maybe 1 out of 50 inhabitants) to indicate any family relationship. Like any name ending with -son it's originally a patronymic that used to change with each generation, but in the late 1800's the patronymics were converted into permanent family names. My great grandfather was the first in my family to use Andersson as a family name, and he lived in Medelpad, far away from your Stockholm ancestors. I think Pettersson is almost as frequent.
 
In contrast, Landroth is a very uncommon name, as Cecilia pointed out, and in that case a phone book search may actually be one way of finding relatives if other sources fail you.
 
As for the 1890 census, Cecilia already did that lookup for you, and your family was found in Jakob och Johannes parish, city of Stockholm. The 1890 census groups parishes by county, but as the city of Stockholm formed a separate administrative territory (överståthållardöme) back then, it's labelled Stockholms stad in the census (the parishes around Stockholm, many of them rural, belong to Stockholms län).

[Lorraine Sisk]

Lena,
 
Thank you so much for checking your CD and for the abundant information on my Stockholm relatives!
 
Lucky for me that they were listed, especially the mysterious Harry Loven about whom I know so little.  With a complete name as well as a date and place of burial, perhaps I can locate his date of birth or other information.
 
Thank you Lena.
 
Regards,
Lorraine Sisk

[Maggie Duck]

Hi Lena
Could you be able to look up these names for me for birth, death and marriage details please I know it's a lot to ask but I be very grateful or if you can tell me a site to go to.
Bengt Andersson born 31 Oct 1913, (parents Mauritz Andersson and Elsa Pettersson) Bengt married Brife Moureau and they had two children Eva and Sunnel Andersson, I have no birthdates or marriage dates for them.
Karin Andersson born 20 Dec 1917 (parents Mauritz Andersson and Elsa Pettersson)Karin married Tore Wiklund.  Any children? Tore's birthdate? marriage date?
Elsa Brife Andersson born 30 Jun 1919. (parents Mauritz Andersson and Elsa Pettersson) Elsa married Thorleif Andersen. Any children? Thorleif's birthdate? marriage date?
 
Svante Gustaf Erick Landroth Petterson married Elsa Horlin no marriage date and one son born 1908 when she died in children June 1908.  
 
Could you be able to tell me if Elisabeth Landroth had any brothers or sisters?
feel free to ask me if I can help you with any Australian information.
Thank you
best regards

[Lena Thelin]

Hi Maggie.
 
Bengt Andersson born 31 Oct 1913
Could this be him
 
19131031-8033
Landroth, Bengt Mauritz
Gylleniusg 11 Bv
654 60  Karlstad
Ded 12/2 1986.
Kyrkobokförd (1982) i Norrstrand, Karlstads kn, Värmlands län. Mantalsskriven (1982) på samma ort.
Born 31/10 1913 i Jakob (Stockholms stad).
married (4/4 1974).
--------------
Födelseförsamling i källan:
S:T JAKOB (Stockholms län)
Källor:
SPAR 90, RTB 86
 
his second wife? they where living together 1970
 
1908-01-24
Landroth, Runa Birgit
Skidbacksv 5
654 61  Karlstad
Kyrkobokförd i Norrstrand (Karlstads kn, Värmlands län, Värmland), distrikt 14, fastighet 62502. Mantalsskriven på samma ort.
Född 24/1 1908 i Njutånger (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland).
--------------
Källa: Mtl Värmlands län 1971
 
 
Can't find her in the death book 1950-1999
 
I can't check regarding children
 
Karin Andersson born 20 Dec 1917
sending you a mail
 
I have to check later because I'm going to my son now.

[Maggie Duck]

Hello Eva
Thank you for your reply, I am not sure if I have replied to you
Regarding Justa Landroth I have never seen his name in writing, I thought it was Gustaf but Dad was adamant it was Justa, his mother Elsa Horlin died June 1908 after giving birth to him. His father Svante Gustaf Erick Landroth (changed his name from Pettersson to Landroth when he immigrated to Australia from Canada in 1916) left his baby son with relatives when he left Sweden bound for Australia. I have put a photo of him up at this site Anbytarforum: Gamla bilder: Bildgåtan: Människor: Photo of Elisabeth Landroth and group photo of Justa Landroth  
there is also a picture of his grandmother.

[Eva Dahlberg]

Maggie, Elsa Brife is Elsa-Britta,  
From the cd Sweden's deathbook 1950-1999, she died on 9 Feb 1996, and divorced on 3 Oct 1951.
19190630-9362
Andersen, Elsa-Britta
Fjärilsst 51 /Cazorla/
197 35  Bro
Död 9/2 1996.
Folkbokförd (1996) i Bro, Upplands-Bro kn, Stockholms län.
Född 30/6 1919 i Johannes (Stockholms stad).
Frånskild kvinna (3/10 1951).
--------------
Födelseförsamling i källan:
JOHANNES (Stockholms län)
Källor:
SPAR 96, RTB 96, SPAR 92
 
Karin is either still alive or died after 1999 as she is not found on the cd (and there are 6 Tore Wiklund on the cd, a probable match being this one  
19160412-3016
Wiklund, Tore
Bredablicksv 15 A, I
181 42  Lidingö
Död 3/11 1991.
Kyrkobokförd (1978) i Lidingö, Lidingö kn, Stockholms län. Mantalsskriven (1978) på samma ort.
Född 12/4 1916 i Adolf Fredrik (Stockholms stad).
Gift man (19/6 1941).
--------------
Födelseförsamling i källan:
ADOLF FR. (Stockholms län)
Källor:
SPAR 92, RTB 91
 
To check for children, same advice as I gave you above on 22 October.
 
Kind regards,
Eva

[Eva Dahlberg]

PS. The twelve digit code is the personal identity number (year, month, date and bith number with control digit), if you want to know more - read here in English Population registration in Sweden. It's given on the death cd but not on teh population cd from 1970 where the information on Lena's probable wife comes from (I can't guess why she would have the name Landroth before marriage, I would guess that she perhaps is the wife Brife - Brita - I would also guess that the name Sunnel is Gunnel).
 
Kind regards,
Eva

[Eva Dahlberg]

Maggie, as I said Justa would be more or less the same pronounciation as Gösta (on the cd Swedish Deathbook the only two Justa that appear are females, and among now living Swedes 5 women have the name and no men).
 
On the cd there is a widow Landroth, her husband died in 1957.
19120820-2125
Landroth, Stina Gunborg Johanna
Emanuel Birkes v 4, VI
144 30  Rönninge
Död 3/1 1997.
Folkbokförd i Salem, Salems kn, Stockholms län.
Född 20/8 1912 i Ringarum (Östergötlands län).
Änka (10/8 1957).
--------------
Födelseförsamling i källan:
RINGARUM (Östergötlands län)
Källor:
RTB 97, SPAR 92
 
For those who died in 1957 (between 1950 and end of 1970) there are no names on the cd, and no exact death dates, but there is one married man in Stockholm who was born in June 1908
19080606-035
(Inga namn- eller adressuppgifter)
Död ?/10 1957.
Kyrkobokförd i Västerled, Stockholms stad, Stockholms stad.
(Ingen uppgift om födelseort)
Gift man.
--------------
Kyrkobokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2000:
Västerled, Stockholms stad, Stockholms län
Källor:
DOR 52-60
 
To check how these two fit in your family puzzle you can send an e-mail to the parish in question as they still have the church books for this time,  
Salem (where the widow Landroth died)
salems.forsamling@svenskakyrkan.se
 
and Västerled (where the unknown man who possibly might be Justa/Gösta Landroth died)
vasterled.forsamling@svenskakyrkan.se
 
Once again,
good luck!
/Eva

[maggie]

hi eva
yep sounds a possibly, it sounds the same Dad didn't know how to spell his name and he was born in June 1908 if his mother died giving birth to him.
thank you very much, I'm very happy to get this much info I have email it all to my brother so he can show Dad.

[Maud Svensson]

Maggie,
I have sent you some information by email.

[Maggie Duck]

Hi Maud
thank you,  
Maggie

[maggie]

To Maud Svensson (Mausve)
Can you please let me know if Brita Landroth nee Moreau is still around. You contact her by phone and got her address which you forward to me, I have written her a letter but have had no reply.
Thanks

[Maud Svensson]

Maggie,
I will contact you by email.

[maggie]

Hello  
Can anyone do a lookup please I have a Mathilda Theresia Sjöberg born in 1823, she had three children, Carl Frederik born on 1 Oct 1843, Elisabet born 27 Sept 1847 (she was adopted by Sven Landroth and Anna Bjurling), Maria Mathilda born 28 Feb 1851. Mathilda Theresia Sjöberg died in the chlorea epidemic in 1853, one of her children Elisabet was adopted, what happen to the other two children Carl and Maria?  
Mathilda's parents were Henri Larsson Sjöberg and Maria Christina Blomberg, her siblings were  
Erik and Anna
 
below is the  
Register till mantalsuppgifter 1800 - 1879 showing Mathilda, her parents and siblings
 
 
År Efternamn Förnamn Yrke/titel Övrigt Distrikt Hänvisning
1837 Sjöberg Mathilda T     Maria södra 954
1837 Sjöberg Erik J     Maria södra 954
1837 Sjöberg Anna C     Maria södra 954
1837 Sjöberg M C Packhuskarlsenka   Maria södra 954
 
I have not been able to find Mathilda's children in the Register till mantalsuppgifter 1800 - 1879
 
 
regards Maggie

[maggie]

in the Register till mantalsuppgifter 1800 - 1879  
for 1836 Mathilda's father was shown but in the 1837 he was not there.
 
 
År Efternamn Förnamn Yrke/titel Övrigt Distrikt Hänvisning
1836 Sjöberg Mathilda Th     Maria södra 926
1836 Sjöberg H L Packhusarbetare   Maria södra 926
1836 Sjöberg M C Packhusarbetarehustru   Maria södra 926
1836 Sjöberg Eric J     Maria södra 926
1836 Sjöberg Anna C     Maria södra 926
regards Maggie