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Författare Ämne: Gust Rask, b 1876? Anna Rask, b 1876 or 1875  (läst 3085 gånger)

2005-03-09, 16:18
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S Karlson

Could someone help me locate my mormor's father and mother?  I have found them coming to the USA in 1906 through Ellis Island, but the ship list shows that they are coming back home to their residence in Chicago.  This leads me to believe that this is their second time over, because the 1930 US census states that they became citizens around 1901 and 1902 (perhaps right near their first trip over).  It also states that they were married around 1901 and 1902, but I am not sure if it was in the US or in Sweden. I am currently trying to locate a marriage record/license here in Chicago.
 
My grandmother said they came from I believe Småland.  But I am not sure.  
 
I know this is limited information.  But maybe it is a good start...

2005-03-09, 23:01
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I have a relative Anna Matilda Rask. She was born 1869-05-22 in  Baggebo, Asby (E). The place is in southern of Östergötland just near Småland. She emigrated to nothern Amerika March 4, 1895.
 
Sorry I don?t have any more details.
 
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Hans-Åke Johansson

2005-03-09, 23:25
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Hans,  
 
Thank you but I am guessing that your Anna isn't the same as my Anna, unless your Anna was a Rask by marriage.  My Anna married Gustaf or Gust and I am not sure what her maiden name was.  I will have to dig further in family records... unless some one else is able to find Gust's birth or  emigration records which can lead to more clues...
 
Thanks  Steve

2005-03-10, 07:46
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Emigranten CD has four Gust* Rask, only two of them with ages that might fit with a birth year around 1876:
 
Name: GUSTAF ADOLF RASK, Age: 23, Parish: VÄRING, County: R (Skaraborg), Port: GÖTEBORG, DATE: 1902-04-11, Destination: CHICAGO ILL, Fellows: NEJ (alone), Source code: 69:422:1071
 
 
Name: GUSTEN, Head of group: RASK C A Age: 8, Parish: MÖRLUNDA, County: H (Kalmar), Port: GÖTEBORG, DATE: 1883-08-03, Destination: CHICAGO ILL, Source code: 23:121:32057
 
Travelling with C A RASK age 48, LOVISA age 50, ELOF age 10, and THEOPILUS age 4.
 
 
There are no suitable G* or A* Rask in 1905-1906. (There is one Gunnar and one Anna Brita, but their ages are wrong)
 
 
So perhaps the emigrated under different names? Or via another country?
 
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2005-03-10, 15:25
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I found yesterday that Anna is Anna Freborg.  Maybe this will help.  Her birth year is still 1875 or 1876.
 
Thank you for your help so far.  I believe that Gustaf Adolf is my grandmother's father.  I seem to remember her saying the name Adolf, but I don't have it written.
 
Steve

2005-03-29, 00:34
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The above Gustaf Adolf is most likely my great grandfather.  Can anyone help locate his birthplace?  It may be Väring, but I am unsure.
 
Anna's full name is Anna Sophia Freborg.  I may have found her coming to America at age 17, and alone.  The ship list doesn't say a parish name.
 
Any help would be wonderful!
 
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2005-03-30, 19:31
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In the census 1900 I found
Homeparish: Väring
Homestead: Stora Wäring Arvidsgård
County; Skaraborg
Gustaf Adolf Rask b 1878 in Locketorps, soldier and unmarried /they have spelled his last name Rack/
 
and in 1890
 
Homeparish: Locketorps
Homestead: Påfvelsgården
Kontrakt: Södra Vadsbo
County: Skaraborgs
Axel August Reinhold Rask b. 1843 in Ryd, Skaraborg county, soldier
wife
Maria Sofia Johansdotter b. 1849 in Götlunda, Skaraborg county
children
Gustaf Adolf b. 1878 in Locketorps
Karl August Wilhelm b. 1886 in Locketorps
Matilda Charlotta b. 1871 in Locketorps
 
I found his sibblings and parents in 1900
 
Homeparish: Locketorp Skaraborgs län
Homestead: Påfvelsgården
Kontrakt: Södra Vadsbo
County: Skaraborg
Fam nr: 1
Karl Albert Karlsson b. 1862, Arrendator
Hilma Fredrika Karlsson b. 1860
Fam nr: 2
Matilda Charlotta Rask b. 1871 in Locketorps, maid in above family
 
Homeparish: Locketorp Skaraborgs län
Homestead: Granbacken
Kontrakt: Södra Vadsbo
County: Skaraborg
Axel August Reinhold Rask b. 1843, ex soldier
wife
Maria Sofia Johansdotter b. 1849
child
Karl August Wilhelm b. 1886

2005-03-30, 19:42
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When did your Anna Sofia come to US? I have found one Sigrid Sofia Friborg born 1876 that left for New York 9th of August 1892 from the southern part of Stockholm

2005-03-30, 19:52
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Here you have the exact dates for the family, checked it on Genline. www.genline.se
 

2005-03-30, 20:15
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Lena,
 
The passenger list I see says April  26, 1892 for an Anna Freberg going to NY from Bremen.  It says she is 17 and it looks as though she is travelling alone.
 
Does the righting above Axel's name indicated what troop # or location he served as a soldier?
 
THANK YOU for your help,
 
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2005-03-30, 20:31
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To view the manifest for Anna Freberd you go to www.jewishgen.org Scroll down to HOSTED ORGANIZATION.  Once that is done   Scroll down to the 3rd link / ELLIS ISLAND DATABASE.  Then scroll down to the 5th link and click on / MISSING MANIFESTS. At the bottom of your screen you'll see a tool bar.   At the Left magnify to 0.7. Adjust to Series M237   After that is done on the same tool bar you'll see ROLL and FRAME, on the roll you adjust the number to 586.  And the frame to  505.  
 
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2005-03-30, 21:57
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Hello again,
 
I think it should be Friberg
 
wonder if this could be the one.
 
from census 1890
 
Homeparish: Skalunda annex
Homestead: Pantegården
Kontrakt: Kållands
County: Skaraborg
Anders Gustaf Friberg b. 1847 in Skalunda, Korporal
wife
Johanna Broman b. 1855 in Rackeby
children
Anna Wilhelmina f. 1876  
Ida Ingeborg f. 1878
Erik Gustaf f. 1880
Hedvig Sofia f. 1882
Karl Henning f. 1884
Johanna Viktoria f. 1886
Johannes Mauritz f. 1888
all children born in Skalunda
 
this I found via Genline
 

2005-03-30, 22:05
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In census 1900
 
Homeparish: Lidköping Skaraborgs län
Homestead: Utom Nya Staden Utsikten
Kontrakt: Kållands
County: Skaraborg
Anders Gustaf Friberg b. 1847, Gratialist
Johanna Friberg b. 1855
Johanna Viktoria b. 1886
Johannes Mauritz b. 1888
Paul Magnus Ragnar b. 1892 in Skalunda
Volrat Fredrik Vilh. b. 1895 in Skalunda
 
Hemförsamling: Rackeby Skaraborgs län
Hemort: Backgården
Kontrakt: Kålland
Län: Skaraborg
Fam nr: 1
Karl Andersson f. 1871, Hemmansägare
Anders Bryngelsson f. 1819
Selma Sofia f. 1857
Fam nr: 2
Karl Henning Friberg f. 1884, Dräng

2005-03-30, 22:15
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I found Paul Magnus Ragnar Friberg born 10th of November 1892 in the CD Swedens deathbook 1950-1999.
 
He died 13th of August 1984 in Masthugg Göteborg parish.
He was married 7th of March 1942 to Ruth Astrid Sofia born 22th of June 1899 in Filipstad, Värmlands county, she died 8th of September 1993.
 
and here she is in 1900
 
Homeparish: Venjan Kopparbergs län
Homestead: Mora Venerns Jernväg
Kontrakt: Mora
County: Kopparberg
Hjalmar Olsson b. 1875 in Filipstad, Extra Banvakt
wife
Sofia Grek b. 1873 in Lungsund
children
Carl Edvin Emmanuel b. 1897 in Filipstad
Ruth Astrid Sofia b. 1899 in Filipstad

2005-03-30, 23:43
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Lena,
 
Coming from my grandmother's 88 year old memory -
 
 This may help.  Anna had the following sisters and brothers, probably americanize:  Alma, Charlie? (Karl?), Andrew.  
 
They were born in Skåne.  
 
Thank you for your help!

2005-03-31, 11:37
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Is this your family in census 1920 from Chicago, Cook, Illinois?
 

2005-03-31, 19:19
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Jan Ek (Janek)

I think it is of great importance to sort the facts from US out, before making definite connections with their Swedish past. You must also try to establish their exact birthdates, can't you find their respective death certificate? Without that important information it's impossible to confirm later you made the correct connection with the Swedish records. In the state of Illinois genealogical copies of certificates older than 20 years are available without restrictions.
 
Based on the facts given so far, I believe I found the couple first time in the 1910 census. Living at 6639 May St in Chicago: Gustave Rask (indexed as Resk) 32, Married to Anna 32. Here the immigration year is set to 1903 for both. At the same time it's said they have been married for 5 years, so this strongly indicates they arrived independently and married around 1905. Gustave is Laborer, Cement work, and their status is Alien.(Source: ED 1371, p 19B, line 53-54)
 
1920 I believe the couple is found at 5740 Morgan St:
Gust Rask 44, wife Anna 47. He is Cement Worker, Contracted. I guess from the names of the parents, and their daughter Hilda 4? year you can trust this is the correct match. In the houshold also Gustavs brother Carl 35 y is found. He is Wathchman, General Store, and it looks like his immigration year is 1911. All three immigrants have the status as aliens.(Source: ED 1884, p 7A. lines 29-32)
 
1930 the family lives at 5871 Aberdeen st, they own their house valued at $3000, and they have radio. Gustaf 53, Anna 54, and he is Laborer, Building Construction. Here their immigration years are 1902 for Gustaf and 1901 for Anna. They are still not citizens, but they have sent in their papers, so the process to get citizenship is started. (Btw, you can't get citizenship earlier than 7 years after immigration.) Their marriage was around 1905, and their daughter Hilda is now 14 years old. (Source ED 608, p 14 A, lines 27-29)
 
Unfortunately the ages and years are not consistant through the three records. The ages are off, and also the immigration years, but these are numbers frequently wrong in census. I guess they both immigrated around 1902, +/- a year or two, and I do believe it is the correct family.

2005-03-31, 19:41
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Jan Ek (Janek)

As a help to find their respective death certificates you can take a look at the free Illinois Death index 1916-50. Unless you are sure your age estimates are correct, I think these are very good candidates:
 
RASK   CUSTAF
Y-70  
#0027243  
1949-07-18 COOK
 
 
RASK   ANNA   S
Y-76  
#6017521  
1949-06-10 COOK
 
As you can see the ages given at time of death match the census record from 1920. It also suggests Anna had a middle name that could have been Sofia.
 
I also think this is a good candidate for brother Carl (Charles):
 
RASK   KARL  A
Y-64  
#6056258  
1950-08-04 COOK
 
All three certificates should be easy to check, and could also have parents names entered if the informant knew them.

2005-03-31, 19:58
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I think these obituaries confirm my assumptions:
 
1949-06-13  
Chicago Tribune (IL)  
 
RASK  
Anna Sofia Rask, beloved wife of Gustaf A., loving mother of Mrs. Hilder E. Swanson, fond sister of Andrew Freborg, and Mrs. Alma Franks, devoted grandmother of Joyce Ann Swanson. Resting at chapel, 851 E. 75th street. Service 3 p.m. Monday. Interment Oak Hill.
 
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1949-07-20  
Chicago Tribune (IL)  
 
RASK  
Gustaf A. Rask, beloved husband of the late Anna, loving father of Mrs. Hilder E. Swanson, fond brother of Carl A., devoted grandfather of Joyce Ann Swanson. Resting at chapel, 851 E. 75th street. Services 2:30 p.m., Friday Interment Oak Hill.
 
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Another clipping gives the circumstances:
 
1949-07-20  
Chicago Tribune (IL)  
 
DIES WHILE AT WORK  
 
Gust Rask, 74, of 6727 S. Indiana av., a cement finisher, died, apparently of a heart attack, while working on an addition to the Lincolnwood school. Lincolnwood and Grant sts., Evanston.
 
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This should be brother Carl:
 
1950-08-06  
Chicago Tribune (IL)  
 
RASK  
Karl A. Rask, beloved uncle of Mrs. Hilder Swanson, devoted brother of the late Gustaf A. Resting at chapel, 851 E. 75th street. Services Monday, Aug. 7 at 3 p.m. Interment Oak Hill.
 
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You get a lot of associated information that should help you to confirm this is indeed the correct people. It also establish Anna Sofia's siblings, Andrew Freborg (Anders Friberg) and Alma (Freborg) Franks, daughter Hilda E. (Rask) Swanson, and granddaughter Joyce Ann.
 
The obits also suggest brother Carl never married and that Hilda was an only child. An that Gustaf had a middle name A. (Anders/Andrew?)

2005-03-31, 21:05
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Jan,
 
WOW, I appreciate all of your help.   I agree with you and apologize for not sorting this out sooner.  The information I have gathered both from my 88 year grandmother, (Hidla E Swanson), and from my mother, Joyce Ann, was limited.  I also had checked and had the census record that Lena posted above.  This is where I retrieved the information on emigration dates and possible birth years.  
 
I am attempting to piece this together going backwards.  I was unaware of the Illinois database search for death records.  And my luck with other Illinois records for other relatives had not been as successful.    
 
I truly appreciate all of your help.  At this point, I know appoximate birthdates, but I do know syblings names etc.
 
Gustaf's middle name was Adolf, and according to the 1900 Sweden census above his birthdate was 26 Dec 1878.  With that information I can hopefully go back further.
 
Thank you again.

2005-03-31, 21:38
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Steve,
 
Glad you found this helpful. Just want to add that if you aren't too far from Cook County Building in Chicago it should be relatively quick to find the marriage certificate from approx 1905. There are usually 5- or 10-year indexes available, to look at. The marriage certificate is interesting, here the couple gives the names of their respective parents, and part from misspellings and possible anglicizing this should be very reliable information.
 
I guess they will search for you, and everything could be done from a distance. I just like to do things myself, if possible.
 
(Btw, isn't your grandmother 90 years old? )
 
Regards, and good luck,
Jan

2005-03-31, 21:43
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Wow, you're right she does turn 90 this year...
 
What a long life!

2005-03-31, 22:38
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Hello again Steve,
 
I have found some information regarding one Anna Sofia born 1873 with sibbling Anders and a foster sibbling Alma. They came from Skåne. So this might be the family youre looking for but as Jan sais you must check more in US.
 
Census 1890
 
Homeparish: Rebbelberga
Homestead: Rebbelberga
Kontrakt: Bjäre
County: Kristianstad Skåne
Johanna Augusta Friberg b. 1837 in Rebbelberga. Widow
children
Anders Vilhelm b. 1870 in Barkåkra
Anna Sofia b. 1873 in Barkåkra
fosterchild
Alma Concordia Andersson b. 1884 in Gråmanstorp
 
This i found via Genline GID 1692.27.49400
 

 

 
It looks like the children took their last name after the mother
 
In the census 1900
Johanna and Alma still lives in Rebbelberga

2005-03-31, 22:49
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Regarding the CD of Emigration from Sweden it's noted that Anders Wilhelm Friberg 21 years old moved to Englewood, Ill 01.09.1892. He was from Rebbelberga and left through Malmö.

2005-03-31, 22:59
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Lena,
 
This is positively them.  The one thing my mother said was that Anna Sophia told her daughter Hilda, that Alma wasn't a blood sister.  This would make sense since these records show that Alma is a foster child.
 
I am positive you have found the correct Friborgs!  THANK YOU!!!

2005-03-31, 23:06
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Not Friborg, it should be Friberg.  
 
I can check more tomorrow via Genline if you want. Now it's bedtime.

2005-04-01, 20:19
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Census 1900
 
Homeparish: Kattarp Malmöhus län
Homestead: Kattarp N:o 1
Kontrakt: Luggude
County: Malmöhus
Sven Eriksson b. 1864 in Lund, Smed
wife
Charlotta Wilhelmina Friberg b. 1866 in Rebbelberga
 
Here are more via Genline
 
Ola born in Barkåkra 1841
 

 
 
 
 
 
Johanna born Rebbelberga
 
 
 

2005-04-01, 20:31
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Sibblings to Ola in census 1890
 
Hemförsamling: Förslöv
Hemort: Stora Hult
Kontrakt: Bjäre
Län: Kristianstads län
Fam nr: 1
Gustaf Persson f. 1843 in Barkåkra, Hemmansägare
Fam nr: 2
Johanna Lovisa Persdotter f. 1827 in Barkåkra, Piga
 
Hemförsamling: Förslöv
Hemort: Ranarp
Kontrakt: Bjäre
Län: Kristianstads län
Nils Peter Persson f. 1839 in Barkåkra, Hemmansägare
Johanna Hansdotter f. 1837 in Grevie
Alfred f. 1882 in Förslöv
Anna f. 1872 in Förslöv
Carl Edvard f. 1879 in Förslöv
 
Hemförsamling: Förslöv
Hemort: Vestra Ljungby
Kontrakt: Bjäre
Län: Kristianstads län
Jöns Persson f. 1837 in Barkåkra, Arbetare Husägare
Kristina Andersdotter f. 1833 in Förslöv
foster child
Carl Arvid f. 1886 in Förslöv

2005-04-01, 20:35
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Lena,
 
I'm confused.  Why is Anna Sophia's name Friberg, when her father's name is Ola Persson?
 
Wouldn't it then be Anna Sophia Olsson or something similar?   How could she keep Friberg?
 
Thank you for your help!
 
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2005-04-01, 21:00
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Lena,  
 In the birth book Reddelberga 1793-1861, for Johanna's parents, what is the word before Hans Friberg?
 
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2005-04-02, 12:32
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Hans Friberg's profession is Tracteur (traktör) = innkeeper, restaurateur, caterer.
Hälsar vänligen
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2005-04-02, 15:52
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Hello Steve,
 
I found out that there is another researcher for Friberg family. He have left information in DISBYTs database, www.dis.se.
 
His email is larsunnerstad@hotmail.com Lars Unnerstad and his webbadress is http://hem.bredband.net/slekt
 
He has more information for Hans Friberg and his wife Sophia Catharina Holmberg.

2005-04-04, 18:25
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Lena,
 
Thank you for your help.  I've e-mailed Lars.  We'll see what he says.
 
Could you help me possibly with another search?  It is listed under a discussion here: http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/2450/68156.html?1112309905.  
I am trying to locate my Great-grandfather's first wife, Hanna Sigrid Elin Wahnström, but I am having little luck.
 
Thank you if you can,
 
Steve

2005-04-04, 22:54
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It look like you have to do some research in US regarding Hanna if you mean what happened to her.

2005-04-04, 23:30
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Lena,
 
Exactly.  However, I do not know here parents names, or if she had siblings in Sweden who came with her over, or who came over at at different time.  For Hanna, I need more information in order to do a possible search.  
 
For instance, I need to find where she left from in Sweden, etc.  
 
I can then use that background knowledge to shape a more focused search here in the US.
 
Thanks again if you can,
 
Steve

2005-04-05, 08:05
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I can't help you with that information. If you contact Stockholm City Archives they might by able to help you.
 
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2005-11-28, 12:20
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Hi Steve,
 
There's a Hanna Sigrid Elin Wahnström on the 1890 CD. According to the 1890 cd she was a seamstress, who had become a methodist and had left the swedish state church. She was living alone at the following address: Sturen större N:o 2, Katarina rote 13, (Stockholms stad)
 
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