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2020-04-12, 15:24
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Utloggad Pam Numan

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Hi my husbands grandfather Willem Numan (born 23 May 1902 in Netherlands) died approximately 10 years ago I believe. How do I go about ordering his death certificate. Believe he was in Stockholm as his 2nd wife (Gulli Anny Maria Karlsson) died in Stockholm in 1979.
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Pam

2020-04-12, 15:36
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Hi!

According to the software Sveriges dödbok 1860-2016 it appears he passed away in 1964:


19020523-017

Numan, Wilhelm

Hauptvägen 120

Död 8/12 1964.

Kyrkobokförd i Farsta, Stockholms stad (Stockholms stad, Södermanland).

Född 23/5 1902 (ingen uppgift om födelseort)

Gift man (1944).

Motsvarande folkbokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2017:
Farsta, Stockholms stad (Stockholms län, Södermanland)

Källor:
DB, DOR 64, UTD 61-67

Post-ID:
SDB7_02072790



And you should be able to order his estate inventory here:
https://riksarkivet.se/bouppteckning

I'm unsure if you can order something like a death certificate in Sweden, but perhaps someone else knows?

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Anders

2020-04-13, 02:54
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There is a later, in part corrected, version of Swedish Death Index 1860-2017, also in english

19020523-017
Numan, Willem
Försäljare
Hauptvägen 120
Dead 12/8/1964.
Registered in Farsta, Stockholms stad (Stockholms stad, Södermanland).
Born 5/23/1902 in Nederländerna, Holland.
Married man (10/21/1944).
Comments: Nederländsk nationalitet
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2017:
Farsta, Stockholms stad (Stockholms län, Södermanland)
Parish of birth in the records: Holland
Source records: 1960, DB, DOR 64, SvBef 1950, UTD 61-67
Record ID: SDB7_02072790

försäljare means salesman

Sincerely
Margareta Danielsson

2020-04-13, 03:11
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Anders, du kan ladda ner uppgraderingen till 2017 här:https://www.rotter.se/kontakta-oss/support/manualer-uppdateringar/uppgradering-2017-sveriges-dodbok-7-1860-2016
mvh Margareta

2020-04-13, 09:13
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Well that is interesting 1964. Unfortunately my husbands cousins speak Dutch with English as extra language. Whereas we speak English (Australian) and literally no Dutch. They were saying he past away in 2008 which made him a very old man. Didnt think it sounded correct.
So gather Sweden doesn't have death certificates as we know them. How do you find out what they died of then?
Thank you everyone for your help it is very much appreciated.
Regards
Pam

2020-04-13, 09:18
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Anders, du kan ladda ner uppgraderingen till 2017 här:https://www.rotter.se/kontakta-oss/support/manualer-uppdateringar/uppgradering-2017-sveriges-dodbok-7-1860-2016
mvh Margareta
Stort tack för tipset! Det hade jag helt missat!  :-X

2020-04-13, 09:40
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Well that is interesting 1964. Unfortunately my husbands cousins speak Dutch with English as extra language. Whereas we speak English (Australian) and literally no Dutch. They were saying he past away in 2008 which made him a very old man. Didnt think it sounded correct.
So gather Sweden doesn't have death certificates as we know them. How do you find out what they died of then?
Thank you everyone for your help it is very much appreciated.
Regards
Pam
It depends on when they died, but church records mostly. We have a 70 year secrecy act meaning we can't access any records younger than 1949 at the moment containing information about births and deaths. But we do have a fantastic software called "Sveriges dödbok 1860-2016" (Swedish Death Index 1860-2016) which contains information gathered from church records and, I assume, later from government records up until 2016. For Wilhelm Numan for example it lists the following sources: "DB, DOR 64, UTD 61-67" and I assume at least the latter two are indexes that the government keep.

It doesn't say how they died but at least it contain the information about when and where they died.

I believe you can only get a hold of a death certificate for your immediate family (such as your parents, spouse or children) but not for anyone else. And I think it is mostly used in connection to the funeral and estate inventory.
So to get more information about Willems death, you will probably need to wait until 2035 or perhaps it is possible for an immediate family member to request this information from the National Archives?

Best regards,
Anders

2020-04-13, 09:55
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Thank you for that. Wilhelms both children are deceased so grandchildren (my husband is one) would be next in line. Will check out cost of ordering certificate at National Archives. Would love to know what he died of.

2020-04-13, 10:42
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Thank you for that. Wilhelms both children are deceased so grandchildren (my husband is one) would be next in line. Will check out cost of ordering certificate at National Archives. Would love to know what he died of.
Yeah, I wish I could help more, but my experience with them so far has been quite confusing (and I'm Swedish!)

See attached death note in the Swedish newspaper Dagen Nyheter printed on the 10th of December 1964. (I have no idea why we are suddenly able to access these records, since we have a 115 year copyright law, but I'll take it!) Unfortunately it doesn't say how he passed away.

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Anders

2020-04-13, 11:18
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Awesome thank you for that. Found out the name of his second wife the other day and this confirms both are the correct people. I just like to make sure it is the right person when doing family history. Dutch family history has been quite an interesting exercise they keep naming a child with exactly the same name till one lives!! It can get very confusing.
Again thank you Anders for that newspaper cutting, you have made my day.
Pam

2020-04-13, 11:30
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Anders,




It is because of the corona outbrake and the limitations regarding access to librarys. Ut is a temporary release of copyright.


/Ulf

2020-04-13, 11:32
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Ander I put it into a translator...hysterical what it came back with. Thought you might like a laugh.

today has paralyzed us. Sorrow and lack of us, other slaughter and many waters
Gulli(wife) Arne(Stepson)  and grandchildren

the earthquake will take place on Monday, December 21, 1964 at. 1300 in the chapel of the ship, the forest crematorium

2020-04-13, 12:13
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Anders,

It is because of the corona outbrake and the limitations regarding access to librarys. Ut is a temporary release of copyright.

/Ulf
I see! Thank you for the info - I must have missed that.
And now I know what I'll be occupied doing the next few days!

Awesome thank you for that. Found out the name of his second wife the other day and this confirms both are the correct people. I just like to make sure it is the right person when doing family history. Dutch family history has been quite an interesting exercise they keep naming a child with exactly the same name till one lives!! It can get very confusing.Again thank you Anders for that newspaper cutting, you have made my day.Pam
No problem! Happy to help  :)

Ander I put it into a translator...hysterical what it came back with. Thought you might like a laugh.

today has paralyzed us. Sorrow and lack of us, other slaughter and many waters
Gulli(wife) Arne(Stepson)  and grandchildren

the earthquake will take place on Monday, December 21, 1964 at. 1300 in the chapel of the ship, the forest crematorium
Haha! Now that's an "interesting" translation!  ;D

An attempt:



My dear Husband
our Father
Willem Numan
[born] 23rd of May 1902

has left us today. Mourned
and missed by us, other
family members and many friends.

Stockholm 8th of December 1964

GULLI
ARNE and GITTAN
[The] grandchildren

---

The burial takes place
on Monday the 21st of December
1964 13 o' clock in 'Hoppets
kapell'*, Skogskrematoriet**



* = 'the Chapel of Hope'
** = 'The crematorium in the woods' - a crematorium located in Stockholm)


Best regards,
Anders

2020-04-13, 12:22
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Your translation makes so much more sense.
But it was funny "earthquake" really.

 

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