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Författare Ämne: Ancestors of Lars Anderson Orn  (läst 1132 gånger)

2007-02-09, 03:25
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Frederic A. Ohrn

I am a direct descendent of Lars Anderson Orn, who was born in 1701 in Alfta, Gavleborg, Sweden.  His father's name was Anders Pehrsson, born in 1675 also in Alfta.  I am curious as to why he and all his subsequent descendents became Orn, which appears to be a name given to untitled nobility.  We currently spell our name Ohrn.  I do not have any personal history information on Lars.  I know that in the time of his young manhood Sweden was in turmoil and perhaps he was in the military and received some sort of special dispensation for his involvement.  Until 1806, his descendents continued to be called by the usual son of middle names followed by Orn as a last name.  By the time my immediate forefathers came to America, (1924) there was no semblance of nobility.  If anyone should have information about this individual or is also a descendent, I would like to hear from you.  My name is Frederic Axel Ohrn. Address: P.O. Box 894 New Canaan, Connecticut 06840  
 
Also: I have an original portrait of Overste Henrik Vilhelm Orn. Born Feb. 14, 1783 Died Feb. 21,1859. I purchasd the portrait from a Carl Nisser, who was descended from Henrik through Carl's mother.  If anyone knows anything about this person and who his progenitors / descendents are please let me know. I would like to know if and how he is related to my family.
 
My great grandfather was Johan Albin Orn. Born Jan. 4, 1866 Grangarde, Kopparberg, Sweden. Died April 21, 1925 Horndal, Kopperberg, Sweden. My grandfather, Edward Albin Ohrn (Orn) came to Stamford, Connecticut in 1922 or 1923.

2007-02-09, 12:04
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I don't know anything specifically about your ancestors, but I'd like to point out that many Swedish surnames originated as military names used by ancestors who were soldiers, and that Örn (Eagle) may have that origin. You can read more about military names here.
 
The Central Soldiers Register database lists 50+ persons named Lars Örn/Öhrn (though your ancestor doesn't seem to be included - the database is a work in progress, and is not complete). There are currently 3000+ Swedes with the surname Örn/Öhrn, which confirms that it's not an uncommon name.
 
There have been Swedish nobles of the name Örn, but the line seems to be extinct as that name is not in the database (in Swedish only) of current noble Swedish families.

2007-02-09, 17:35
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Hi Frederic,
 
Below GID refers to Genline ( www.genline.se ) where all church records up until about 1900 are published. It's a paysite, but the GID is a very good tool since it refers uniquely to one specific page.
 
Birth of Johan Albin:
(GID 100020.33.23000, birth records for Kopparberg county, 1866)
04 Jan 1866 Grangärde parish, Kopparberg county
Johan Albin, illegitimate, mother Maja-Stina Andersdotter, female farmhand at Nya Hyttan
 
Clerical survey/household examination (Husförhörslängd - usually abbreviated Hfl)
(GID 169.73.44300, Hfl AI:18F, 1863-71, page 52)
Area Nya Presthytte, house (or block) Nya Hyttan
Labourer Anders Andersson, b. 01 Jul 1807 at Grytnäs parish (also Kopparberg parish)
Wife Johanna Larsdotter, b. 13 Apr 1815 at Söderbärke parish (also Kopparberg parish)
Anders and Johanna were married in 1835.
Daughter Maja Stina, b. 29 Nov 1843 at Grangärde parish (at Nya Hyttan)
Her son Johan Albin, b. 04 Jan 1866 at Grangärde parish (at Nya Hyttan)
Son Anders, b. 01 Jun 1852 at Grangärde parish (at Nya Hyttan)
Daughter Anna Gustafva, b. 10 Mar 1857 at Grangärde parish (at Nya Hyttan)
 
Maja Stina moved out from her parents home in 1863 (GID 169.83.61400, migration records C:7 1833-65; out 1863, certificate no 119); she is recorded as moving to Ljusnarsberg parish, Örebro county.
Maja Stina moves in to Grangärde parish again in 1864 (GID 169.83.61600, migration records C:7 1833-65; in 1864, certificate no 27); recorded as moving in from Ljusnarsberg. She starts work as a female farmhand at a large farm in the vicinity of her parents' home, Nya Hytte Bruksgård, also of Nya Presthytte (GID 169.73.43500, Hfl AI:18F, 1863-71, page 44).
Maja Stina moves back in with her parents in 1865.
Maja Stina and her son move out in 1868 (GID 169.40.50700, migration records B:1 1866-94; out 1868, certificate no 169). They are recorded as moving to Sävsnäs parish (I think).
Maja Stina and her son move back in with her parents in 1870 (GID 169.40.51500, migration records B:1 1866-94; in 1870, certificate no 31); they are recorded as moving in from Sävsnäs parish (I think).
Maja Stina and her son move out 30 Oct 1871, (GID 169.40.52100, migration records B:1 1866-94; out 1871, certificate no 92). They are recorded as moving to Ludvika parish (a small town actually) in Kopparberg county.
 
The next clerical survey/household examination in Grangärde (GID 169.75.5900, Hfl AI:19D 1872-1880, page 56):
Labourer Anders Andersson is still at Nya Hyttan in Nya Presthytte, with wife Johanna Larsdotter, son Anders and daughter Anna Gustafva. Anders is in 1873 noted as exceedingly stupid and Anna Gustafva moves out in 1873 (to the parish of Norrbärke, Kopparberg county, certificate no 42).
 
The next clerical survey/household examination, which is also the last available one at Genline for Grangärde (GID 169.80.55200, Hfl AI:20D 1881-1889, page 1222):
Labourer Anders Andersson is still at Nya Hyttan in Nya Presthytte, with wife Johanna Larsdotter, and son Anders who is still noted as exceedingly stupid.
Father Anders dies 19 Dec 1881. His widow is declared a pauper.
However stupid son Anders may be he manages to get married in 1882, to Johanna Andrietta Lodin, born 05 Jul 1858 in Grangärde parish. When living with her mother (page ) Johanna Andrietta has no special notes, but gets a ditto below Anders' note... The couple has a daughter 12 Jun 1883 (Otilia Charlotta), and another one 15 Sep 1886 (Selma Josefina) who dies 18 May 1887.
In 1887 widow Johanna, her son Anders with wife Johanna and daughter Otilia Charlotta move into the poorhouse at Perlby in Grangärde (GID 169.78.17900, Hfl AI:20B 1881-89, page 800). Anders and Johanna have another child, a son called Erik August born 22 Jan 1889. Mother Johanna is now noted as somewhat stupid, with a ditto for her son Anders; daughter-in-law Johanna has however no note now.
 
Back to Maja Stina Andersdotter and her son Johan Albin. They move into Ludvika (GID 156.31.59400, migration records BI:2 1864-94, certificate no 23) 30 Oct 1871. Here Maja Stina suddenly changes her first names to the posher Maria Christina (for which Maja Stina is short).
**Just** before moving to Ludvika Maja Stina (Maria Christina) marries assistant smith Johan Ludvig Örn, born 14 Dec 1843 in Ludvika, 28 Oct 1871 in Grangärde (GID 100020.28.11700 marriage records for Kopparberg county, 1871).
The newlyweds, together with Johan Albin (put down as her son b. m. (before marriage)), live at Ludvika Forge (Ludvika Bruk) with Johan Ludvigs sister (or sister-in-law), her two children and their mother (GID 156.34.49800, Ludvika Hfl AI:8B 1864-73, page 46). Johan Ludvig and Maja Stina have a son, Carl Axel, 10 Aug 1872.
 
In the next Hfl, the family is still in the same place, but there are of course now more children (GID 156.38.44500, Hfl AI:9B 1873-80, page 45):
except for Johan Albin (still with the note her son b.m.) and Carl Axel, there are Anna Maria (09 Jun 1874), Emma Christina (22 Jun 1876), Ludvig Emil (14 Feb 1879) and Carl August (15 Jun 1881). Johan Ludvig's old mother, Stina Lisa, b. 1817, is also still there.
 
In the next Hfl, the family is still in the same place, and now the number of children is the same(GID 156.43.30400, Hfl AI:10B 1881-90, page 308).
However, already in 1882 Johan Albin moves out; so too does his younger brother Carl Axel, but only in 1889 when he moves to Söderbärke parish.
This is the last available Hfl from Genline.
 
Johan Albin moved out from Ludvika 28 Nov 1882 (GID 156.31.66900, migration records B:1 1864-94, out 1882, certificate no 126); it is noted that he moved to Norrbärke parish. Johan Albin has here adopted his stepfather's last name since he doesn't have a name of his own.
 
Unfortunately Norrbärke have no migration records (or at least none published by Genline) at this rather late date. It is certainly possible to search th Hfl:s by hand but it takes a lot of time. It might make things easier if you have your father date and place of birth, and then work from that backwards.
 
So, the name Örn comes to you by way of your greatgrandfather's stepfather. Before 1901 you could assume any name you wanted (except noble names) with no formalities what so ever and it was very common for stepchildren to use their stepfathers' name.
In this case Örn seems to be a smith name, but it was also, as Anna-Carin points out, very common as a soldier name. I don't know that it was ever a noble name on its own but it has figured as part of noble names (Örnehufvud, Örneklou etc).
 
Ingela

2007-06-30, 10:38
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Pam Upman

I amresearching the UPMAN roots,my records show Nanny married to aDavid Ohrn.
could you help me with placing them. are they part of this family
 
 
Nanny Maria Upman. Born Dec 5, 1883 in Östhammar, Uppsala county. Died May 19, 1954 in Östhammar, Uppsala county. No direct heirs. Married Jun 9, 1946 to --.  
-- David Öhrn. Born Dec 13, 1885 in Harg, Uppsala county. Died Aug 17, 1956 in Östhammar, Uppsala county

2007-06-30, 16:43
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David Örn was the son of railway station worker Anders Petter Örn and his wife Maria Augusta Jacobsson in Harg (close to Östhammar). According to the Swedish Book of Deaths, Nanny (youngest sister of the Upman brothers in SA) married David as late as June 9, 1946. They lived at Rådhuskvarteret 26 in Östhammar when she died.
 
I believe, from records in the death book, that David was married earlier and had at least one son born in 1927.

2007-06-30, 16:47
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PS Örn is a relatively common name, often used as a solder?s name, ie it was given to the soldier by his commanding officer. Therefore, all Örn families are not related.

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