Magnus Ljung was my great great grandfater

[ivan young]

I am looking on information concerning my great great grandfater Magnus Ljung born May 7, 1795
his wife was Brita Petersdotter who was born
November 2, 1792.  They were from the Olmstad and Haurida area. One of their sons, Carl Ljung, my great grandfather came to United States May 16, 1873.

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan,
here is something, e-mail to the address below for more details /hopefull /
 
Regards,
 
Bo Nordenfors
 
THE CENTRAL SOLDIERS REGISTER
A cooperation between DIS and Centrala Soldatregistret  
Garnisonsmuseet Skövde
Centrala Soldatregistret  
 
 
   
 
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
 Ljung, Magnus  [Ljunggren]  
  Born:  1795-05-07  
  Died:  1876-02-21  
   
  Wife:  Petersdotter Brita  
  Born:  1792-11-02  
 
   
  Regiment:  Jönköpings regemente  
  Company:  VISTA  
  Parish:  Ölmesta  
  File:  Korparp  
 
Document number: JR-00-0482-1818  
 
Responsible Registry:  Address: SOLDATREGISTRET SMÅLAND
Eksjö museum
575 80 Eksjö
SWEDEN
 
 Telephone: +46-381-365 73  
 Fax: +46-381-361 88  
 E-mail:  soldatreg@eksjo.se  
 Webaddress:  eksjo.se/museer/Eo_museu/konsth.htm#militarhistoriska  
 
 It you intend to e-mail please also give the information you have.

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan,
 
the parish Olmstad  today is Ölmstad.  
 
 
Bo Nordenfors

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan,
 
The local historical society of Gränna has published a map where one can find, among others, the 47 cottages for soldiers belonging to the Vista company /Jönköping Regiment. The society sell it for 160 SEK for domestic delivery. If you go to their web-site at
http://www.grm.se/hembygd/nyheter.html you may watch a sample of that map.
 
The society has address an e-mail as follows:
 
Inger Andersson
Uppgränna Mattsagård
563 91 Gränna,
SWEDEN
E--mail i.and@swipnet.se

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Magnus was born on 7 May 1795 to Peter Ljunggren and Ingrid Karlsdotter, Ölmstad Norregård, Ölmstad parish.
source: Births in the parish of ÖLMSTAD 1695-1930  
FÖDDA I ÖLMSTAD FÖRSAMLING
ÅREN 1695-1930  
 
at this URL  :  http://apollo.oderland.com/~jbgf/bocker/olmstad/index.htm
 
This data base is done by the Genealogical Society of Jönköping.
 
Regards,
 
Bo Nordenfors

[ivan young]

Thank you Bo Nordenfors for this information.  From it I was able to discover more details on Magnus Ljung.  It has been helpful with dates.  
 
Is it possible to look for Magnus father's dates now.  As you can see he was Peter Ljunggren.  I am seeing data which may be his, but it is under Peter Ljungren and Peter Ljung as well as Peter Ljunggren.  
 
To me it looks as if Peter died early in 1802 and maybe his wife Ingrid Karlsdotter remarried to Sven Nilsson in 1804.  But I also wonder if Ingrid was not first wife of Peter, since they were married in 1794.  Without Peter's date of birth it is hard to tell.
 
Lots of questions.  If you can help that is great.  I appreciate your help.
 
Have a good day.
 
Ivan Young

[ivan young]

One more thing for you Bo Nordenfors, if you would, please.
 
Here is some data I have from a letter but I do not understand.  Can you help  
me identify what the meaning is to the best of your ability.    
 
Magnus Ljung brjkade tydligen tva stallen I Rodjestugan en period    
det ena at anka Lovisa Ericsdotter, fodd I Olmstad de 7/4 1792.    
 
Till detta stalle inflyttade ar 1841 fran Olmstad Magnus Ljung.    
Familjen flyttade ater till Olmstad ar 1843.    
 
Aren omkring 1846 kallades Magnus Ljung lumpsamlare och var
skriven pa torpet Rodjestugan, som han lamnade med hustrun
och dottern Johanna, fodd 19/1 1837 och konfirmerad 1851, och
inflyttade I en annan byggnad I Rodjestugan.
 
Pa 1850-talet kallades Magnus ljung ej langre lumpsamlare, och
parasten har antecknat Bracklig. Befriad.  De bodde da inhyses.
 
I thank you in advance for your assistance.
 
Regards  
 
Ivan Young

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Magnus Ljung evidently farmed two places in Rödjestugan for a while, one for the widow Lovisa Ericsdotter born in Ölmstad on 7 April 1792.
 
Martin Ljung moved in that place in 1841, coming from Ölmstad. The family returned to Ölmstad in 1843.
 
About 1846 Magnus Ljung was called a rag-and-bone man and was residing at the cottage Rödjestugan, from which he moved to another house in Rödjestugan together with his wife and his daughter Johanna, born 19 January 1837, confirmed in 1851.
 
In the 1850:ies Magnus was not called rag-and-bone man anymore and the pastor has noted “Frail, released” - the latter one means he had not to go to the “husförhör”.  They were boarding that time.  
 
Bo N.

[ivan young]

Thank you Bo Nordenfors for this information.  
 
From it I was able to discover more details on Magnus Ljung and some of my other family members. It has been helpful.
 
I am now trying to go back and find the parents of Peter Ljunggrem, who you said was Magnus' father.    
 
It appears Peter died early in 1802 and he was 45 years old when he died. But I am having trouble seeing a birth date record for Peter. To me it appears it should be 1756 or 1757.
 
Also if he was born in 1757, it seems strange to me that he did not marry until 1794.  As he would have been 37 years old at the time. That seems very old for the times.  It has appeared to me, that most men married much younger than that in the 1700's.  What is your opinion?
 
So I wonder if Ingrid was not first wife of Peter, since they were married in 12/27/1794.  
 
If this information is to much for you to research, I understand.  I do appreciate your assistance.  
 
Have a great day.

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan,
 
It is a matter of time, I think, but hopefully researchers near Ölmstad can assist in the meantime!
 
Bo

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan,
 
Found the marriage between Peter and Ingrid  
 
(book of marriages Ölmstad, http://apollo.oderland.com/~jbgf/bocker/olmstad/index.htm)
 
 
27 December 1794:
 Farm-hand Peter Ljungren and
 Maid Ingrid Karlsdotter, Ölmstad Norregård.
 
wish I had the microcards and/or Genline, but unfortunately not.

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan:
Whyn ot the LDS site, I thought .....
 
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0  
  Sweden  
Search Results  | Download | Pedigree  
 
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Petter Larsson Ljunggren  
  Male      
     
 
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Event(s):  
 Birth:  About 1771   Of, Skarstad, Jonkoping, Sweden  
 
 Christening:  
 Death:  
 Burial:  
     
 
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Parents:  
  Father:  Lars Ljunggren  
  Mother:  Kirstin Nilsdotter      
 
Perhaps you can go to that site yourself for more details!
 
Bo

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ivan,  
LDS also showing DOB for Lars Ljunggren (fo Ljungarum ... ) and his wife.
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Bo