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Författare Ämne: Johnson, Carl August born Berga Kronoberg Sweden  (läst 1553 gånger)

2006-07-01, 06:50
läst 1553 gånger

Candace

I am looking for any emigration information there might be on Carl August Johansson born 5/18/1855 in Berga Kronoberg. I believe he arrived in USA May 1880..but haven't been able to locate exact info (lots of Johnsons--lots of Carls--etc).Family info was that he married 12/20/1879 to a Josefin Salomonsdotter Ekman from Berga before they left Sweden...but now I'm not so sure.
Any info or help in where to look would be most appreciated. These are my great-grandparents.
Thanks
Candace

2006-07-01, 08:32
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Josefin Salomonsdotter b 21 May 1861 emigrated 23/4 1880 from torpet Nydala, Berga. She is listed in Emibas as unmarried but a note in the household census says marriage 15/11 1879, but to to whom.
Her father was ex-soldier Salomon Ekman b 26/5 1816 in Berga, the mother Anna Stina Svensdotter b 19/4 1819, she had in 1879 ne sister at home: Carolina b 26/5 1855.
 
The marriage records for Berga say:
 
Nov 15, 1879:
 
Drängen (unmarried man) Carl August Johannesson from Norratorp under Trolleslöf Södergård b 1855
and
Pigan (unmarried woman) Josefina Salomonsdotter b 1861 from Nydala under Fallnaveka Sunagård.
 
Carl August (emigrates 23/4 1880) has 6 siblings, one also named Josefina who leaves for America in 1879. His parents are:
 
Johannes Johansson b 25/5 1821 in Berga and Anna Maja Svensdotter b 29/9 1829

2006-07-01, 08:52
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Your family info was right, the unusually well kept marriage book says that the marriage ceremony was on Dec 19, 1879. The marriage licence (banns) were applied for on Nov 15.

2006-07-01, 15:39
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Candace

The above info is much appreciated and it is good to know family stories and history were correct. I do have a question..you mentioned 6 siblings for Carl August-I had only been able to locate 5. They are Josefina, Amanda, Carolina, Katherina, and Tilda. I would be very interested in info about any other siblings.
Would you know how I could find more details about the emigration of Carl and Josefina--name of ship, when arrived USA, where sailed from?
Again, many thanks for your help.
Candace

2006-07-01, 16:07
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If you have Genline the info is on GID 817.34.2900
 
Johan Alfred b 1871
Selma Elise b 1873
 
I can?t find them in Emihamn (Gothenburg passenger lists), they may have used another port.
There is one August Johansson travelling alone with the right age going to Rockford on April 30, he does not match any entr in the Emibas, but may be the wrong person.
The sister Josephine leaves Gotheburg as Josephine Jonsson 25 april 1879 destination New York.

2006-07-03, 17:00
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Candace

I am looking for information on the only 1 of Carl August's sisters I haven't been able to find.I have located all the other siblings in America but this one. She is Tilda Kristina Johansson born 12/25/1852 in Berga. Not sure if she remained in Sweden or emigrated also. Also, any death information on Johannes Johansson (Carl's father) would be appreciated. I found Carl's mother died in Illinois, but unable to find the father. Maybe he never came to America...there are so many Johanes Johansson to search through in Illinois records if he never came to America that could explain it.  
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Candace

2006-07-03, 17:51
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Tilda Kristina went to America on April 6, 1877.  
A note in the records: Amanda Charlotta was legally declared dead by the court on 14 Dec 1945, she is listed as emigrated to Minnesota 1888, but there is also a date in the death column 30 Aug 1895. Johan Alfred and Selma Elisa have a note: Idiot (meaning mentally handicapped), for Johan it is crossed out so maybe the priest put the note in the wrong place.
There is no note on Johannes death and he is not on the Kronoberg CD of deaths, at least not in Berga. I have not found the family in the next book 1890-95

2006-07-03, 18:40
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Candace

Chris,
Thanks for the new info. I will research further on Tilda in USA since I now know she did emigrate. Looks like some conflicting records on Amanda's death. Is it usual for the death record to say declared dead by the court??
Since there is no death record on Johannes(father), maybe he emigrated also?? I have found a record of the mother Anna Stina Svensdotter's death in Kane County Ill 3/28/1913...so maybe 1 of the scores of Johannes Johnson's in Illinois could be him. Would you be able to locate an emigration record for Anna Stina Svensdotter and Johannes Johansson leaving Sweden?  
Again my thanks for your help,
Candace

2006-07-03, 19:42
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I do not know why this declaration was made, presumably there was no reliable record of her death, then she would have been declared dead after an application by (for example) heirs to any estate. Also people who disappear without a trace are declared dead, usually the year they would have been 100 years old. There was another difficult note which I think says day of death assumed to be 30 april 1898 the note in the death column could say 1898 instead of 1895. She must have just disappeared.
I could not find any record of Johannes´ emigration but he was alive in Berga on 31 Dec 1890 according to the census. Also found him in the 1900 census, together with wife Anna Maja (not Anna Stina)Svensdotter and daughter Selma Elis, still with the note idiot (Down´s syndrome child?).
They must have moved after 1900 in which case records are not on-line. If someone else does not answer I may be able to find them when I go to the archives next.

2006-07-03, 21:49
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Candace

Chris,
Could it be that Amanda emigrated 1888 to Minnesota(did the record have a month date so I could look at immigration records here)-somehow she disappeared 4/30/1898 in Minnesota?? Very interesting..
Anything more you could find on Johannes would be most helpful. I thank you for your help in sorting this all out.
 
Candace

2006-07-03, 22:28
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Yes she went April 27, 1888
Note: She has an extra name in the Emibas record: Smek, that is wrong, the household census has the title snickare (short: Snick) ie carpenter for her father
It is possible to get the court records and find out the circumstances. They are also at the archives where I go sometimes. Sounds like they put 10 years without a trace as the death date.
 
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Johannesdotter Smek, Amanda Charlotta
Hemmason (ogift kvinna)
 
f. 22/2 1867 i Berga, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Utvandrad (Emigrated) 27/4 1888
från Trotteslöv Norregård, Berga, Kronobergs län (Småland)
till Minnesota, USA
 
Källa (Source): Husförhörslängd, s. 326
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Berga G 1888 052
 
Destinationsort: Minnesota
Destinationsland: USA

2006-07-03, 22:54
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This may be her leaving Gothenburg, rather a long time after leaving her home parish:
 
Efternamn:   JOHANSSON
Förnamn:     AMANDA CHARLOT
Ålder:       21            Kön: K
Född: 1866/1867 born ca
Församling:  BERGA    Län: G
Titel/Anm:    
Utresehamn:  GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1888 08 03
Destination: NEW YORK
Medåkande:   NEJ alone
 
One arrival record in New York has an Amanda Johanson arriving Aug 18, 1888 on S/S City of Berlin. It says Malmö as the origin, but these data are very often wrong. Seems uncertain because it is a Gérman ship. Most people went from Gothenburg to England and then from Liverpool.
 
Illinois has an Amanda C Johanson dead aged 30 7/13/1895 (close enough?)

2006-07-03, 23:21
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Candace

Chris,
I wonder perhaps she never did go to Minnesota--I have been looking for a family connection to Minnesota and not really finding one. The other siblings I have found in USA wound up in Utah, Iowa and Illinois. so this could be correct. I have found a marriage record in Illinois for an Amanda Charlotta Johnson on 9-6-1888 to a Goran A Gustafson--but that would not tie out to the Swedish records, so must not be correct..that record went on to Amanda dying in Illinois 9-24-1918 which would not fit at all.
The part about Johanes being a carpenter would be exactly correct. My gr-grandfather Carl August was one of the first contracting carpenters in Rockford Illinois. He also had a furniture business...I am fortunate to have some pieces he had made....so his father being a carpenter makes perfect sense.
All of this info is so appreciated...I never really thought I would be able to find alot of info on the family in Sweden...just too many Johnsons..this is great!
Candace

2006-07-05, 16:18
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Candace

Would there be a census record on Johanes and Anna from around 1870 or so that would list all the children. I am not 100% certain the info I have on Carl August's siblings is completely accurate.
 
Also, looking for birth info on Sven Svensson. He and Brita Stina Petersdotter were married in Berga 11/25/1827. I have her birth date as 11/28/1808.
 
Many thanks,
Candace

2006-08-07, 14:18
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Horst Draheim

Hallo,
bisher ist der Familienname Johnson in der Mailigliste der g-gruppen nicht vorgekommen.  
Ich suche die Indentität von Lars Johan Johnson, geboren am 14.09.1838 in Berg bei Jönköping. Er ist ausgewandert nach Deutschland vor 1873, verheiratet am 23.11.1873 in Royn, Kreis Liegnitz/Schlesien und verstorben ~ 1895 in Klein Wandri?, Kreis Liegnitz/Schlesien. Zu den Daten gibt es nur m?ndliche ?berlieferungen. Dokumente sind nicht vorhanden. Er war mein Urgro?vater. Sein Sohn Johann Karl Johnson, mein Gro?vater, ist geboren am 04.03.1874 in Royn.
Wie kommen wir damit weiter?
Mit besten Gr??en
Horst Draheim

2006-08-07, 15:45
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Horst Draheim

Nocheinmal Hallo,
 
auf meiner Website unter www.horst-daheim.de/Familienforschung-Johnson
sind alle bekannten Inform,ationen zu Lars Johan Johnson nachzulesen.
 
Mit betsen Gr??en  
Horst Draheim

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