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Författare Ämne: Johnson, Harry b1908 USA. Child died 1910 Älvsborg county ?  (läst 840 gånger)

2010-03-21, 17:00
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In preparation for a 2010 summer trip to Sweden, we are trying to figure out where the infant, Harry Johnson, died and was buried in 1910 (born 1908 in USA, died poss. in Hallands län on return visit with mother), son of Sven E. Johnson (born S.E.Gabrielsson on 12 Feb 1880 in Kungsäter) and Minne Cristine Johnson (born Nelson on 24 Aug 1886 in Hallands län?).
Any possibility Harry would be in the Burial CD?

2010-03-22, 11:22
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No, he is not in that CD, records are far from complete, however. If you know what parish he died in, you can browse death records via the subscription service from SVAR or Genline.

2010-03-22, 11:30
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Sven E. was born in Kungsäter, Älvsborg county
 
Here his record from 1900 Census (Sweden) - I didn't find him in emigration records (they are, however, far from complete)
 
 
Record 1601635
 
Gabrielsson, Sven Edvard
Eldare
 
b. 1880 in Kungsäter (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
s.
Boy, child
 
Ödesmåla Nedergård
Kungsäter (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Kungsäter Hallands län

2010-03-22, 14:32
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Thanks, Bo, for your speedy answer.  I think this is not the first time you have helped me.
I was hoping that, by finding Harry's burial site, I could find out where his mother Minne Christine came from, since Harry was buried in her churchyard.  Minne is the real puzzle now.  Sven Edvard has been well documented thanks to your help.  She grew up near Sven Edvard's area but did not know him before meeting him in the USA.  The family knew her as Minnie C. Nelson, but that might have been Mina and Nilsson or Nelsson or something like that.
Kungsäter seems to move around, sometimes Hallands län, sometimes Älvsborgs län.  Are there several? Or, were there several administrative rearrangements in the area?
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HH

2010-03-22, 15:01
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Harald,
 
In the death and burial book for Holsljunga parish in Älsvborgs län for 1910 you will find:
 
Date: Sept 5 Harry Josef Edward, son of Sven Edvard Johansson and his wife Christina Johansson from America. Born Oct. 10 1908.
Died during a visit hear in the Country  with his mother.
 
Minnie Johnson returned to USA from Goteborg on Oct 14, 1910. Destination Boston. She traveled to-gether with Mathilda Johnson, 17 year, from Holsljunga. ( From Emigranten Popular 2 )
 
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2010-03-22, 15:15
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Census 1900 Sweden
 
Record 1657416
 
Mina Kristina
 
b. 1886 in Holsljunga (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Öllebo 1/8
Holsljunga (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
Fs. 1 g. born ih her father´s first marriage
 
Place of birth (original source): Holsljunga Älvsborgs län
 
father:
 
 
Record 1657419
 
Magnusson, Nils Josef
Hemmansägare = farm owner
 
b. 1842 in Mossebo (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
man
Man, married, father
 
Öllebo 1/8
Holsljunga (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Mossebo Älvsborgs län
 
stepmother:
 
Record 1657418
 
Johansdotter, Olivia Maria
 
b. 1855 in Reftele (Jönköpings län, Småland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Öllebo 1/8
Holsljunga (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Reftele Jönköpings län
 
 
siblings: (all born Holsljunga)
 
(Barn), August   1882   Child ( same mother is Mina Kristina.)
 
half-siblings:
(Barn), Josefina Natalia   1889   Child
(Barn), Alf Viktor   1891   Child
(Barn), Matilda Alvina   1893   Child
(Barn), Tekla Teresia   1894   Child
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av rannug 2010-03-22 15:23)
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av rannug 2010-03-22 15:27)
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av rannug 2010-03-22 15:43)

2010-03-22, 15:27
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Mina Kristina born 24 August 1886 in Holsljunga to Nils Josef Magnusson
and Matilda Gustafsdotter, Öllebo, Holsljunga.
 
parity: 7
 
mother's age: 40
 
Source:  GID   100015.126.45400,  [Älvsborg]  _scb Älvsborgs,  .869, Födde, 1886-1886, 0-0,  Bild 215 av 444
 
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2010-03-22, 15:48
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Minnie's mother Matilda Gustafsdotter was born on 6 February 1846 in Örsås; died 24 October 1888 in Holsljunga.
 
siblings of Minnie, according to clerical survey  HolsljungaAI:5 pg 324. Suggest all birth dates are checked in book of births.
 
Johan Wilhelm b. 4 August 1867 in Örsås, Älvsborg county;
Carl Gustaf b 29 August. 1870 in Örsås;
Seth Alarik b. 28 May 1876 in Holsljunga;
Oskar Emil b. 17 July 1879 in Holsljunga, he died on 21 Apöril 1880 in Holsljunga;
Selma Emilia b. 16 July 1873 in Örsås;
August b 18 April 1882 Holsljunga.
 
source:  GID  1873.2.19800,  [Älvsborg]  Holsljunga,  AI.5, Husförhör, 1873 - 1884, 324-0,  Bild 161 av 170    
 
and   Holsljunga kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder och församlingsböcker, SE/GLA/13216/A I/6 (1884-1898)  Holsljunga kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder och församlingsböcker, SE/GLA/13216/A I/6 (1884-1898)

2010-03-22, 15:53
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Siblings of Minnie emigrating:
 
Post 543213
 
Josefsson, Carl Gustaf
Hemmansägarson (unmarried man)
 
b. 8/29/1870 in Örsås, Älvsborgs län (Västergötland)
 
Emigrated 4/12/1889
from Öllebo, Holsljunga, Älvsborgs län (Västergötland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 388
 
Emibas migration file ID: Holsljunga P 1889 003
 
Post 543214
 
Nilsdotter, Selma Emilia
Hemmansägardotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 7/16/1873 in Örsås, Älvsborgs län (Västergötland)
 
Emigrated 5/22/1891
from Öllebo, Holsljunga, Älvsborgs län (Västergötland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 388
 
Emibas migration file ID: Holsljunga P 1891 005
 
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2010-03-22, 16:14
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Half-sisters of Minnie emigrating:
 
Efternamn:   NILSSON
Förnamn:     THEKLA
Ålder:       18            Kön: K
Född: 1893/1894
Församling:  HOLSLJUNGA    Län: P
Titel/Anm:    
Utresehamn:  GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1912 08 16
Destination: BOSTON
Medåkande:   JA
Källkod:     97:98:7540
 
Efternamn:   NILSSON
Förnamn:     MATHILDA   (this is Matilda Alvina who also went with Winnie in 1910)
Ålder:       19            Kön: K
Född: 1892/1893
Församling:  AMERIKA    Län: US
Titel/Anm:    
Utresehamn:  GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1912 08 16
Destination: BOSTON
Medåkande:   JA
Källkod:     97:98:7540

2010-03-22, 22:55
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Harald,
 
In the Death and Burial Book for  Holsljunga 1910 you find on line 10:
 
Date Sept 5 Harry Josef Edvard, son of non-existent Sven Edvard Johansson and his wife Christina Johansson from Amerika, born Oct 27 1908.
Died during a visit hear in the Country with his mother.
 
It is not mentioned any reason for his death.
 
According to the CD Emigranten Popular 2:
Minnie Johnson,age 24 years, emigrated from Goteborg on Oct 14, 1910. Destination Boston USA.
She traveled together with Mathilda Johnson, 17 years, from Holsljunga, Älvsborgs län.
 
Kind regards,
Anders

2010-03-24, 13:37
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Many, many thanks to Bo and Anders for such speedy and thorough research.  We now know how to find Minnie's homestead and little Harry's grave in Holsjunga.  Interesting example of name problem in genealogy when we start with Minnie C. Nelson in the USA and work back to Mina Kristina Nilsdotter in Sweden.  That required some careful and patient detective work, for which I thank you.
mvh,
HH

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