Fosberg (Forsberg), Charles C & Christina - to US abt 1899

[Helene Jorsell]

I agree with you Chris!  
 
We know that a Blenda and a Christina Johannesdotter emigrated from Stenbrohult in 1885 and in 1891. We know that their mothers name was Elin Carlsdotter.  
 
You will find them in the Swedish census 1880, living with their mother Elin Carlsdotter (a widow) and a number of siblings in Lockakulla, Stenbrohult. One younger brother was namned Carl Alfred, born 1876. I believe he is the same person who emigrated from Stenbrohult in 1895 and I'm not surprised to see that his destination was Boston, MA:
 
Efternamn:  JOHANNESSON
Förnamn: KARL A
Ålder:18            Kön: M
Född: 1876/1877
Församling: STENBROHULT    Län: G
Titel/Anm:  DRG
Utresehamn: MALMÖ
Utvandrdag: 1895 03 28
Destination: BOSTON
Medåkande: NEJ
Källkod: 1895:235:9250

[Chris Bingefors]

There is also a sister Carolina emigrating:
Post 269727
 
Johannesdotter, Carolina
Hemmadotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 5/19/1865 in Stenbrohult, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 4/9/1884
from Lockakulla, Rosendal, Stenbrohult, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 425
 
Emibas migration file ID: Stenbrohult G 1884 010
 
Guess where?
 
 
Efternamn:   JOHANNISDOTTER
Förnamn:     CAROLINA
Ålder:       18            Kön: K
Född: 1865/1866
Församling:  STENBROHULT    Län: G
Titel/Anm:    
Utresehamn:  GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1884 04 25
Destination: BOSTON
Medåkande:   NEJ
Källkod:     24:396:21739

[Chris Bingefors]

There is another sister, Kerstin Maria born 28 Oct 1860, could this be her:
 
groom's name:   August Larson
groom's birth date:   1862
groom's birthplace:   
groom's age:   30
bride's name:   Mary Johnson
bride's birth date:   1860
bride's birthplace:   
bride's age:   32
marriage date:   01 Sep 1892
marriage place:   Wellesley, Norfolk, Massachusetts
groom's father's name:   Lals Larson
groom's mother's name:   Mary Johnson
bride's father's name:   John Johnson
bride's mother's name:   Ellen Carlson
groom's race:   
groom's marital status:   
groom's previous wife's name:   
bride's race:   
bride's marital status:   
bride's previous husband's name:   
indexing project (batch) number:   I01080-5
system origin:   Massachusetts-EASy
source film number:   1927673
reference number:   item 2 p 19

[Chris Bingefors]

Carolina born 19 May 1865?
 
groom's name:   Peter Benson
groom's birth date:   1857
groom's birthplace:   
groom's age:   33
bride's name:   Elina Johnson
bride's birth date:   1866
bride's birthplace:   
bride's age:   24
marriage date:   26 Mar 1890
marriage place:   Wellesley, Norfolk, Massachusetts
groom's father's name:   Bennett Benson
groom's mother's name:   Ellen Truelson Benson
bride's father's name:   John Johnson
bride's mother's name:   Ellen Carlson Johnson
groom's race:   
groom's marital status:   
groom's previous wife's name:   
bride's race:   
bride's marital status:   
bride's previous husband's name:   
indexing project (batch) number:   I00950-0
system origin:   Massachusetts-EASy
source film number:   1927786
reference number:   3

[Chris Bingefors]

Census 1900, her birth date said to be May 1866, Boston
Peter Benson   43
Lena Benson   34
Frank E Benson   7
Eleanor Benson   9
Blender Benson   4

[Chris Bingefors]

Names certainly fit:
 
name:   Blenda Marie Benson
gender:   Female
baptism/christening date:   
baptism/christening place:   
birth date:   13 Aug 1894
birthplace:   Wellesley, Norfolk, Massachusetts
death date:   
name note:   
race:   
father's name:   Peter Benson
father's birthplace:   
father's age:   
mother's name:   Caroline Johnson
mother's birthplace:   
mother's age:   
indexing project (batch) number:   I01080-5
system origin:   Massachusetts-EASy
source film number:   1927673
reference number:   item 2 p 25

[Chris Bingefors]

Carl Alfred did not live for long in the US, this man buried in Wellesley according to the original list:
name:   Alfred Johnson
titles & terms:   
event:   Death
event date:   07 May 1899
event place:   Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
residence:   Boston, MA
street address:   
gender:   Male
age:   23
marital status:   Single
occupation:   
birth date:   
birthplace:   Sweden
estimated birth year:   1876
burial date:   
burial place:   Wellesley, MA
cemetery:   
father:   John Johnson
father's titles & terms:   
father's birthplace:   Sweden
mother:   Ellen Carlson
mother's titles & terms:   
mother's birthplace:   Sweden
additional relatives:   
spouse:   
volume/page/certificate number:   v 495 p 212
film number:   964886
frame number:   
digital folder number:   4225849
image number:   224
Cause of Death: Typhoid
 
It certainly seems to be the right family!
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av izla 2011-04-08 10:50)

[Helene Jorsell]

I have come to the same conclusion as you Chris with Christina/Christine Johannesdotter/Johnson and her siblings from the parish of Stenbrohult.
 
If we can find Christine/Christinas siblings in the 1910 federal census of the U.S, we might be able to find Christina/Christine herself during the lost years.

[Chris Bingefors]

This is Peter and Carolina in 1910, Boston:
Peter Benson   53
Caroline Benson   44
Eleanora L Benson   19
Frank E Benson   17
Blenda M Benson   15

[Helene Jorsell]

Okay, then we know that Carl Alfred Johannesson died in 1895.

[Chris Bingefors]

August and Mary, with a unusual transcription, Wellesley 1900:
August Lorksan   38
Marie Lorksan   39
  Lorksan   7
  Lorksan   6
  Lorksan   5
  Lorksan   2
 
And 1910 in Wellesley:
August Sawron   48
Mary Lawson   49
Blenda M Lawson   16
Alle C Lawson   14
Harry I Lawson   12
Axel E Lawson   11
Maud V Lawson   9
Victor A Lawson   5
Hoelma Lawson   3
Otta Raisen   40 (boarder)
Johanan Gustaf   21 (boarder)

[Chris Bingefors]

1920:
August Sa*N   57 (corrected to Larson by member)
Maria Sa*N   59
Harry E Sa*N   21
A* Sa*N   20
M* Sa*N   18
Victor Sa*N   15
Hilma Sa*N   13

[Chris Bingefors]

Their mother, Elin Carlsdotter, lives in Stenbrohult, at Oxholmen crofters cottage, until 31 Dec 1927 when she dies.
Source: Stenbrohult AIIa:8 (1923-1932) Bild 316 / sid 293 (AID: v167398.b316.s293, NAD: SE/VALA/00346)
 
Maybe there is an estate inventory?

[Chris Bingefors]

This is probably the youngest son, he becomes a stone cutter in Halland in about 1895
 
18790102-359
 
Johansson, Johannes
 
Allarp 1:61
 
Dead 6/22/1950.
 
Registered in Riseberga (Kristianstads län, Skåne).
 
Born 1/2/1879 in Stenbrohult (Kronobergs län, Småland).
 
Widower (2/28/1944).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Riseberga-Färingtofta, Klippans kn (Skåne län, Skåne)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Stenbrohult (Kronoberg)
 
Source records:
DOR 50-51 / FS, DB

[Helene Jorsell]

In that case, Elin Carlsdotter became a pretty old lady since she was born 1838.
 
From the Swedish census 1880 (all children with the patronymic Johannesson/Johannesdotter;
 
Carlsdotter, Elin
Torpareänka
b. 1838 in Virestad (Kronobergs län, Småland)
Widow, mother
 
Lockakulla
Stenbrohult (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Children;
 
Kristina, b. 1862 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1891)
Carolina, b. 1865 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1884)
Blenda, b. 1867 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1885)
Sofia, b. 1870 in Stenbrohult (did she emigrate?)
Johan, b. 1872 in Stenbrohult (did he emigrate?)
August, b. 1874 in Stenbrohult (did he emigrate?)
Carl Alfred, b. 1876 in Stenbrohult (emigrated in 1895)
Johannes, b. 1879 in Stenbrohult (died in Riseberga, Sweden in 1950)
 
And in addition to the above siblings, the oldest daugther Kerstin Maria Johannesdotter, born in Stenbrohult 1860, who probably emigrated at a very young age.  
 
Just a brief summery of what you have found Chris. I hope I did not omission or missed out any of the siblings.

[Chris Bingefors]

August died 4 June 1881, Johan moves to fosterparents and adds Valfrid to his name, emgrates 1888:
Post 269965
 
Johannesson, Johan Valfrid
Fosterson (unmarried man)
 
b. 5/7/1872 in Stenbrohult, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 6/17/1888
from Regnhult, Stenbrohult, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 308
 
Emibas migration file ID: Stenbrohult G 1888 041
 
Sofia emigrates:
Post 269840
 
Johannisdotter, Sofia
Torpardotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 3/16/1870 in Stenbrohult, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 6/27/1886
from Lockakulla Rosendal, Stenbrohult, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 425
 
Emibas migration file ID: Stenbrohult G 1886 044
 
 
I have ordered a possible estate inventory for Elin.

[Chris Bingefors]

Johan?
 
name:   Johnson
birthplace:   Sweden
relationship to head of household:   Self
residence:   Wellesley, Norfolk, Massachusetts
marital status:   Divorced
race :   White
gender:   Female
immigration year:   1886
father's birthplace:   Sweden
mother's birthplace:   Sweden
family number:   116
page number:   7
    Household   Gender   Age
     Johnson   F   49y
Nils P Pierce   M   44y

[Chris Bingefors]

Unfortunately, I have the evening shift at work and have to leave. But keep up the good work!

[Helene Jorsell]

Thanks!
 
An update of the children of Elin Carlsdotter;
 
Kerstin Maria, b. 1860 (probably emigrated)  
Kristina, b. 1862 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1891)
Carolina, b. 1865 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1884)
Blenda, b. 1867 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1885)
Sofia, b. 1870 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1886)
Johan, b. 1872 in Stenbrohult (emigrated 1888)
August, b. 1874 in Stenbrohult (died in 1881)
Carl Alfred, b. 1876 in Stenbrohult (emigrated in 1895)
Johannes, b. 1879 in Stenbrohult (died in Riseberga, Sweden in 1950)  
 
A very touching sight. When Elin Carlsdotter died in 1927, seven of her nine children had emigrated to the U.S. One son died at a young age, however, she had one son left in Sweden (Johannes who died 1950).

[Courtney Fosberg]

My grandfather was telling me some stories of what he remembered from his grandmother, Christine, and the Larson last name came up. He told me that there were a bunch of Swedish people in the neighborhood that all hung out together and many were related. He spoke of Christine's sisters and the Larson family. They use to visit and bring him hard candies. My grandfather also told me that Christine had an accident--either fell off a roof or fell off a sleigh--and became crippled. She was a very tough lady and continued to work in her victory garden everyday. She would drag herself from each flower bed. As a child, he would go bring her bread and water before school and when he came home, she was still outside gardening and he would bring her more bread and water. He also told me of how she always drank her coffee/tea from the saucer and not the cup, which I thought was funny! He really loved her. He said she was a beautiful lady and will find a picture to show me. She passed away when he was in the ARMY. He took leave and she passed the day after he came home. He was greatful to see her one last time. My grandfather also talked about his father Edwin. He said he and his wife Margaret were very well liked by everyone. I have only heard nice things of Edwin. He was very tall, too. I believe he died of a liver problem due to the fact that he started drinkning later in life. My grandfather never knew one thing about his grandfather. He is so appreciative of this information. We all are!

[Courtney Fosberg]

Very sad story about Carolina Sofia Forsberg....
There is much debate about vaccinations for children here in the US. I now really see the importance considering how many past family members have passed from illnesses we are all now vaccinated against--tuberculosis, typhoid fever, etc. Glad to see Elin Carlsdotter lived such a long life! Hope is was a happy one!

[Chris Bingefors]

Drinking coffee out of a saucer was very common in Sweden, my relatives born in the 1800s always did that. Preferably with a lump of sugar on the tongue.
 
It seems we do have the right family, we just have to find the other sibligs who emigrated. The censuses are very poorly transcribed som they may be in them, but under strange versions of their names. If we are lucky, there is an estate inventory which will give the names of her children as married, and maybe their addresses in 1928.

[Chris Bingefors]

I just had the estate inventory for Elin Carlsdotter. Unfortunately, the names of the daughters are not given, but it states that she had 5 daughters, all in America and one son, Johannes Johansson living in Skäralid, Skåne.  She left 502 kronor and 70 öre after deductions for the funeral. 595 kronor  were in her savings book. That was not an insignificant sum of money then. DAted 10 Jan 1928.
 
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[Courtney Fosberg]

I just came from my Grampy's house on Brigham Court. I had written up everything you all have discovered and printed out a map of Sweden with Gunnarskog highlighted. He was so excited! He also found a picture of his fahter, Edwin, back in the 1930's when he had a chance to try out for the Boston Red Sox (famous baseball team). Edwin's wife, Margaret, was pregnant with my grandfather at the time and said there was no way she would have her husband traveling all across the country just to play baseball! Therefore, Edwin never got his shot as a major league baseball player. I will go visit Edwin Jr. this week to bring his a copy, also. Eddie lives in Natick, too. Thanks again!  Courtney

[Courtney Fosberg]

Are there any photos of Frank Frans Gustaf Forsberg anywhere--passport? immigration papers? etc. No one in my family has ever seen a picture of him and we are all very curious to see what he looks like. I was going to attach a picture of Edwin in 1930, but I don't see a way for me to attach a photo. I didn't know if families sent in photos to be stored in the database for other people to see who might also be looking for that person. Thanks again!}

[Judy Olson Baouab]

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[Courtney Fosberg]

This is a photo of Edwin Fosberg, son of Frans Gustaf Forsberg and Kristina Johannessdotter.(Edwin is on the right)The picture was taken in 1930 in Massachusetts. Edwin loved playing baseball and was really good at it. He was married to Margaret Jones at this time and they were pregnant with their second son, Charles, my grandfather.

[Courtney Fosberg]

.......I assume this says there was an error in my uploading of the photo..
En eller flera av de bilder eller filer du laddat upp är för stor (max är 200 kB). Dessa bilder eller filer har tagits bort ur ditt meddelande. Kontrollera att filernas storlek inte överstiger 200 kB och försök igen

[Chris Bingefors]

It was too big, maximum size is 200 kB!

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