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2010-09-14, 15:55
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Utloggad Lars Jarlsbo

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I am looking for information concerning a woman who played soloflute and was a bandleader in New York around 1920. Her name was Edla Soeller and her mother came from Stockholm in Sweden. Edla emigrated to United States 1905 with her parents, Waldemar and Maria Soeller. Her father was a pianist and her mother a singer. Edla conducted an orchestra in New York (Central Park and Metropolitan) 1917 and 1920. New York Times have reported from those events. Are there any information about her since. Her parents was settled in Newcastle, Wyoming.

2010-09-14, 16:46
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Kerstin Thölix

There is a danish family coming to New York the 21 of mars 1905 . Theý are going to Barnum Baily in New York. Isn´t that a circus?
Waldemar Soeller 48
Edla Soeller 23  
Lili Soeller 21
Maria Soeller 44
They are coming from Cuxhaven and their last plce of residence was Copenhagen and the ships name was Patrica

2010-09-14, 16:55
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Utloggad Eva Dahlberg

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a lot of information is already researched and given here on the Söller family from different sources.
 
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2010-09-14, 19:35
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Utloggad Lars Jarlsbo

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Thank you
 
I already have those facts and I´m glad that so many are participating in the research.
I hoped I could go further in english and perhaps that someone who are englishspeaking and have other sources can help me with Edla Soller.
Today I got an message that she was married in Bronx, New York 1906, with an italian and she gave concerts later on in Metropolitan och Central Park i New York with a big orchestra. She played herself flute.

2010-09-14, 23:44
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Well, she is mentioned in The news from Fredrick, Maryland in Dec, 31, 1923, as participating in a radio program from Station WEAF, New York. Edla Soller, Flutist, played for 10 minutes at 8 in the evening.(Source: Ancestry.com)

2010-09-14, 23:59
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She is also mentioned in Indiana County Gazette (Indiana, Pennsylvania) in October 2, 1912, under the headline Womans World. She is said to be leader of orchestra, plays 28 instruments and has played for the King and Queen. A picture of her is also published
More to be found on Ancestry

2010-09-18, 10:47
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Edla Soller were performing i New York in many years, especially around 1920. She was married during some time but kept the surname she had as a little girl. She played flute but were also a bandleader. Some information are saying that she was involved in a theater on Manhattan.
Please let me know if someone have more information, anything are of importance.

2010-09-24, 19:16
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Utloggad Lars Jarlsbo

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I´ve tried several sources, for example ancestry.com, to get some information about Edla Soller but nothing in return except the information above. I mean she can´t have vanished into the air. Please help me with information.

2010-09-25, 15:30
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Lars,  
Du har inte skrivit vad hennes man hette; har du sökt henne även med det efternamnet? Man skulle kunna tänka sig att hon använde sitt flicknamn som artistnamn så länge hon uppträdde, och att hon när hon drog sig tillbaka började använda sin makes efternamn.

2010-09-25, 19:42
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I apologize for having written nothing in return except on Friday the 24th of September. It was an unlucky way of putting things. Of course I´m deeply grateful for all information that I\ve got thanks to members and other people on anbytarforum. What I tried to express was my disappointment that, for example the site ancestry.com with its enormous American official archives, couldn´t elucidate the mystery about Edla Soller.
 
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2010-09-25, 19:49
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Anna-Carin,
 
Jag vet tyvärr inte vad hennes man hette. Hon ska enligt uppgift ha gift sig med en italienare 1906. Bröllopet stod i Bronx i New York. Jag har varit i kontakt med en arkivarie på en italiensk släktforskningssida men uppgifterna från myndigheterna är inte inlagda ännu berättade han. Däremot kan man gå in på brudgom (om man vet efternamnet) och den vägen få brudens namn och övriga data. Mycket tyder på som du skriver att hon använde sitt flicknamn. Vissa uppgifter pekar på att hon bodde kvar i New York men makens namn är fortfarande oklart.

2010-09-25, 22:04
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Mannen var väl inte italienare enligt infon i den diskussion jag länkar till ovan (hans namn nämns väl där av Chris ?) att det är siten italiangen är en annan sak  
hälsningar, Eva

2010-09-28, 22:10
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Utloggad Lars Jarlsbo

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I really want to know who Edla married 1906 in New York. Perhaps, Eva, that your are right, that he wasn´t an italian. After 1920 she seems to vanish in the air.

2010-09-28, 22:47
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The information Chris gave  says that his name according to the US Federal Census 1920 is Paul Flinsib - most likely a mistake in transcription of the Ancestry index according to Chris who thinks it should be Philip which is given as a correction on Ancestry - and that he is given to be German.  
 
Italiangen just is a site that does volunteer indexes for New York City and publishes it.
 
Hälsningar,
Eva

2010-09-29, 22:06
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Chris are right about the marriage to a german.  
Edla was married to a man who was born in Germany and his last name is Phillip.  
I´ve found him and Edla also in the thirteenth census of the United States: 1910-population.  
They live in an hotel on Manhattan and both are musicians.
I have earlier information that Edla studied in Germany so perhaps they met already then.  
But 1910 they have interpretated her name as Ella instead of Edla.  
His name is Paul Phillip.

2010-09-29, 22:19
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That makes two uf is then  See continued discussion and question to you Lars under the other discussion .
 
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2010-09-29, 22:26
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PS. We still don't have a copy of the wedding certificate or anything else veryfying it's the correct Edla, we are all just making assumptions that the different couples found are the same ... in a posting  C-G Magnusson quotes a finding he has made One daughter, a fine flutist, remained in New York where, it was whispered, she had married a wealthy man and for some reason seemed to have ... [Bits and pieces: Volym 5-7 (1969)]. That is why I mention that for example an obit from Mr Waldemar Soller (who died in Wyoming in 1932 or 1933, different years mentioned in different quotes in the other discussion to which I link over and over again ) would be helpful.
 
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2010-09-29, 23:17
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Utloggad Lars Jarlsbo

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I hoped that someone over there (USA) also would read this column. That´s the reason I´m writing under discussion in english.

2010-09-30, 11:39
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Lars, suggest you start a discussion at the Rootsweb message board for New York state,
 
http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork/mb.ashx
 
you have to register before posting but it´s free.  
 
Reason why I suggest: the bboard Discussions in English  at Rötter is not monitored very much from USA and their genealogists.

2010-09-30, 18:06
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Tack Bo
 
Jag hoppades att någon skulle komma med ett tips som ditt. Jag ska göra ett försök och meddelar resultatet.

2010-09-30, 21:22
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Lars,
 
Edla Soller married to Mr. Philip, is mentioned in many newspaper articles during the 1920's. The last article I can find is from the Chatham NY Courier in 1935 when the Soller Heights is mentioned as going to be sold, liquidated, and it is not known where the defendants, Edla Soller, also known as Edla Philip, and her husband is living at the time. The newspaper articles initially talks about her as a very wellknown flautist (earliest from 1898) and that she is only temporarily in the US. We know she got married to Philips. You can also read that she is more famous abroad than here in the US, and that she at the age of 15 played at the Royal Opera, and that the King gave her one of his medals from his chest. And that she was only three years old when she started playing the piano and mastered some 28 different instruments in the 20's. In 1927 she was involved in an accident, in Ghent, where she resided (Soller Heights I assume) and that article tells us that she tried to stop the automoblie from hitting them but invane, and the horse had to be shot. And so on. I can send you copies of these articles or send the link to the website where you'll be able to find them if you'd like. Please let me know.  
 
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2010-09-30, 22:09
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And there is a Soller Heights Road in Ghent, NY! Ghent is also where Edla Soeller and Louis Siegenthal live in the census of 1930. (See Swedish discussion under Soller/Zoller)

2010-09-30, 23:00
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I may have found the same articles, Susanna, to avoid double postings see Swedish section:
 
http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/305886.html?1285879214#POST102637 0

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