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[Ann Liljemark]

Hello !
Are there anyone who can help me find any information about an relative to me.
His name was August Eriksson born August 30,1869 in Östmark, Sweden.
He emigrated to Amerika July 3, 1891.
I think it was Spokane he came to.
I don?t know anything about what happend to him.
Hope anyone could help me.
                             Ann

[Monica Svedberg]

Hello Ann!
August Eriksson is a very common name, but try to contact Spokane Public Library. The staff there has been very helpful to me. E-mail address:
 
telref@spokanelibrary.org
 
You can also look at Rootsweb:  
http://www.rootsweb.com
Chose state of Washington (WA) and Spokane. There is a lot of information about genealogy and the history of Spokane.
Good luck!
Monica

[Pernilla Bollman]

Pinto Sosk? Could that have been a place in Washington in 1911? Maybe not a town, but a temporary work camp of some kind? The name is found in a letter written from my great grandfathers' brothers in december 1911. In 1910 and at least in the summer of 1911 they were in Tacoma, and one of them was in Tacoma in april 1912. The one who actually writes the letter is later (1917) found in Telluride, Colorado.
I am also wondering in what district of Tacoma to find 1554 South D Street (?) in the 1910 Federal census? Also, if there was an area or place called General in Tacoma?  
Pernilla

[Roland Johansson]

Hej Pernilla
 
Pinto ligger i sydöstra hörnet av provinsen Saskatchewan i Kanada, strax norr om gränsen till Norh Dakota i USA. Det är mera ett naturgeografiskt namn på ett område, än på en samlad bebyggelse, precis som du skriver.
 
Skickar med en länk till en översiktskarta.

[Ishbel Cormack]

Pernilla: If you think the place is Pinto Saskatchewan(Sask.is the abbreviation)I could try and find out if there is a local history book about the area that might mention the person you are refering to.We have many of these Saskatchewan histories in our University and Archive libraries here in Calgary.
Ishbel

[Pernilla Bollman]

Thank you Roland and Ishbel, it seems as if Pinto, Sask. is the right interpretation, as someone also pointed out to me in a mail yesterday. I could not find it in any maps at first though. Now I know where it is. I doubt very much that the two brothers would be mentioned in any records, since I believe they moved on fairly quickly. But I am not sure of cause. Their names were Johan Verner Bollman (born 1886) and Carl Oscar Bollman (born 1884). They changed their surname to Tilly and their first names were usually recorded as John (or Vaner) and Oscar (or Charles Oscar), respectively (US Federal census 1920 and 1930, WWI Civilian draft 1917).
About 1554 South D street, Tacoma; I found out that number 1541, which should be fairly close, was in ward 3, precinct 5, in 1900. I have tried precincts 4, 5 and 6 of ward 3 in the 1910 census with no result. Does anyone know how to find out how the wards/precinct bounderies changed during those years? Or where to find a map to get an idea of the general area, closeby streets and so on?
Finally, General in Tacoma, that I asked about, should actually be General Del. What could that be? A deli? A friend of Oscar wrote the postcard, she was called Julia Coleman (originally from Telluride, Colorado I think).
Thanks again!
Regards, Pernilla

[Sören Andersson]

General Del. is short for Genaral Delivery and that is the US expression for what is called Poste restante i Europe. The addressee had no known street address so he had to fetch the item at the post office. It could also be somthing he did not want to be delivered at his street address.
best regards
Sören A

[Anneli Isaksson]

To Ishbel. I have maybe more information about your ancestors in Mossebo in Sweden. I answered a very old question. See Landskap Västergötland. Mossebo.
Best regards  
Anneli Isaksson

[Pernilla Bollman]

Tack Sören! Det hade jag ingen aning om. Det förklarar saken.  
Mvh Pernilla

[Ishbel Cormack]

Pernilla: The local history books contain many stories of early settlers and how they started their farms and things that happened to them. There are accounts of the families and the children as well as of who worked for the farmers etc. I will have a look. Maybe we will be lucky.
My great grandmother was a Louisa Bollman. I think she was born in Germany but I am not sure.She lived in the province of Ontario. Some other Bollmans in that part of Canada came from Netherlands before 1900.

[Pernilla Bollman]

Hi Ishbel,
I think that the two brothers would have only been there for a few months or so, probably working in mining or other temporary employment. One of them got married around 1915, but probably not there. I have no knowledge of any children.  
But if you should find anything at all, I would be happy to know.  
About Bollman; I think most Bollman families came from Germany, but in this case it is entirely Swedish.
Regards, Pernilla

[Paul Ross]

Hi Pernilla
 
The precinct boundaries were redrawn every census to reflect changes in population.  I too had trouble with this when searching for my family in Spokane.
 
I think that section of D Street is now named either Fawcett Avenue or Market Street.  1554 would be between 15th Avenue and 16th Avenue.  You can probably find a map in Yahoo maps or Expedia maps.
 
The University of Washington is building a new campus in that part of Tacoma.  Any houses or apartment buildings from the early 1900s are likely gone now.
 
http://www.tacoma.washington.edu/ (campus map)
 
I hope this helps.
 
Paul Ross

[Monica Svedberg]

Hello Ishbel!
 
Perhaps my lost relative, Karl Albert Hakansson b. 1872-10-16 in Gullabo, Sweden, also went to Canada when he dissappeared from Spokane. The last trace of him is when he reported his father to be dead to the rest of the family in Sweden.  
 
His father John (originally Hakan) Olsson had died in a railway accident in Spokane in Nov. 1904.  
 
Both men were probably working as labourers in the wood or in the mines or helping farmers. They might also have been carpenters, since the father had worked as that and as a farmhand in Sweden.
 
Could you please look for Karl Albert Hakanson (or Charles Olson)? According to an article in The Spokesman Review, Nov. 13 1904, he was called Charles and perhaps he called himself Olson instead of Hakansson, since there are no Hakanssons recorded in Spokane in 1904. Or perhaps he did not live there, though the article said Mr Olson has a son, Charles, living here.
 
He might of course have taken a completely different last name.
 
Monica

[Ishbel Cormack]

Monica: I will try to help you. I have the names of two camps where Swedish men worked near Merritt and Kamloops British Columbia, Canada about 1910. It is difficult to read the names as they were written between 1910 and 1920 so I will try and find out the correct spelling and if the company had a list of workers. I will also check the marriage and death records for B.C. Sorry, I do not know if they are lumber camps or mining camps.
 
I have a pictures of some of Swedish workers at a camp in USA or Canada I could email this to you to see if you recognise anyone. I think it was taken  
in Washinton State but I am not sure.

[Monica Svedberg]

Ishbel,
thank you, you are an angel. You can mail me at the following address:
 
monica.sved@telia.com

[RoseMarie Ivarsson]

Hej.
Jag undrar om det finns någon som kan hjälpa mig få fram något om Oskar Levin Larsson f.1875-10-03 och död 1957 i Seattle, Washington. Enligt en uppgift som jag har fått levde hans änka kvar i Seattle omkring 1990.  
MVh RoseMarie
 
Hi.
I wonder if there is anybody out there who can help me find out anything about a Oskar Levin Larsson b. 1875-10-03 who died 1957 in Seattle, Washington. According to some information I've got was his widdow still living in Seattle in the 1990's.
Regards RoseMarie

[Paul Ross]

Hej RoseMarie
 
From 1930 US Census, Washington State
ED 17-222, Sheet 23A
 
Oscar Larson
4634 Austin (near Lincoln Park in West Seattle)
Seattle
Head of Household
Age: 55
Age at first marriage: 42
Able to read/write: Yes
Place of Birth: Sweden
Citizenship: 1900, Naturalized
Speaks English: Yes
Occupation: Shoemaker
 
Anna Larson
Wife
Age: 48
Age at first marriage: 35
Able to read/write: Yes
Place of Birth: Sweden
Citizenship: 1906, Naturalized
Speaks English: Yes
Occupation: None
 
I am not certain this is your Oskar Larsson.  I could not find a close match for Oscar or his wife Anna in the Washington State Death Index.
 
Mvh
Paul

[Kerstin Jeppsson]

Hi.
Who could help me to find out some anchestors to my grandfather?s sister Emma Lovisa Andersson born 7/23/1870 in Vimmerby, Sweden. She emigrated 18871104 from Gothenburg to New York. Källkod: 33:342:2988.Emma died 2/15/1907 in Seattle, Washington.She left her husband Fred Andersson and her son Joel.  
Best regards
Kerstin Jeppsson

[RoseMarie Ivarsson]

Thanks Paul.
I think it might be my Oscar. The age seems to be the same and my Oscar arrived to the States sometime around 1895-1900.
Mvh RoseMarie

[Ann-Mari Bäckman]

Hej!
 
Jag har en liten annorlunda fråga. Det är nämligen så att min farfar hade två syskon, som emigrerade till USA. De var en bror och en syster Jenny Forsgren f. 1884, gift med Nils Lindgren.  
 
1912 utvandrade Jenny med man och barnen Ellen f. 1906 och Holger f. 1908. Hustruns äldste son Rudolf f.1904 utvandrade 1923 och vad jag tror anslöt sig till familjen.
 
För ett år sedan hittade jag mina släktingar, farfars brors barnbarn i WA och OR och även ett barnbarn till Jenny i WA.
 
Nu skulle väl allt vara bra, men problemet är att detta barnbarn till Jenny, min tremänning inte har gett mig något svar på var hamnade hans farmor när de kom till USA och har han några syskon och kusiner på sin fars sida (Holger Lindgren). Jag tror nog att han uppskattade brevet från Sverige, men alla gillar ju inte brevskrivning! Mina tremänningar på farfars brors sida vet inte heller något om Lindgrens familj. De har ingen kontakt med varandra.
 
Nu undrar jag var bosatte sig familjen Lindgren när de kom till USA 1912. Vad hände med Rudolf, Ellen och Holger?
 
Jag har ett foto från Olympia, WA där Jenny, Nils och barnen Rudolf, Holger och Ellen står framför ett hus. Det är från 1952. Vem kan ha bott där?
 
Det känns som om jag funnit släkten, men ändå inte.
 
Mvh
 
Ann-Mari Bäckman

[Bengt Johansson]

År 1920 bor familjen i Washington, county Pierce, township Tacoma. Från 1920 års census:
Nels Lindgren, 39, till USA 1912. Yrke: Millweight (tror jag det står), Saw Mill.
hustru Jennie E, 35, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.
dotter Ellen E, 13, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.
son Evert H, 11, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.
broder Arvid, 36, född i Sverige, till USA 1913. Yrke: Laborer, Saw Mill.
Adressen är 1315 South 17th Street.
 
1930 bor familjen i Washington, county Thurston, township Olympia. Från 1930 års census:
Nels (det bör stå Nels, men stavningen är lite svårtydd) Lindgren, 49, gift vid 24, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.
hustru Jennie, 46, gift vid 21, född i Sverige, till USA 1922(?).
son Rudolf, 26, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.
dotter Ellen, 24, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.
son Holger (fast det står daughter i census), 21, född i Sverige, till USA 1912.

[Ann-Mari Bäckman]

Bengt!
 
Tack för de uppgifter du gett mig! Nu vet jag att de alltså bosatte sig i WA och inte i Canada som jag också hade mina misstankar om. Det hus som familjen står framför i Olympia, är med all sannolikhet Nils och Jennys.
 
Att Jenny plötsligt skulle ha utvandrat 1922, är nog en ihopblandning med sonen Rudolfs utvandring.
 
Nu får jag bara hoppas att min tremänning i USA, kan i framtiden ge mig svar på om jag har några mer släktingar overthere.
 
Mvh
 
Ann-Mari Bäckman

[Bengt Johansson]

Hoppsan, jag skrev fel. Det ska naturligtvis vara Rudolf som kom 1922.
 
Bengt

[Monica Svedberg]

Hej Bengt!
Tänk om du kunde hitta min morfars äldre bror Karl Albert Håkansson också i Washington. Han kom till USA (Montana) som 17-åring år 1890 för att förenas med sin far, min morfars far. Vet att han befann sig i Spokane, WA år 1904, då fadern, Håkan (John) Olson, dog i en järnvägsolycka där. Båda var nog skrivna som arbetare (lant- eller skogs-) eller som snickare. Håkan Olsson var arbetare och snickare i Sverige.
 

 
1904 hade Karl Albert tydligen bytt namn till Charles, se artikeln. Vilket efternamn han använde vet jag inte. Ingen Hakans(s)on finns med i Spokane City Directory 1903 eller 1904.  
Däremot finns en Charles Olson som skulle kunna stämma år 1903. År 1904 fanns några stycken John Olson, men ingen Charles Olson.  
Det kan ju hända att Karl  Albert (Charles) inte alls bodde i Spokane eller hade flyttat därifrån efter faderns död.  Karl Albert föddes 1872-11-16 i Gullabo, Kalmar län.

[Ann-Mari Bäckman]

Bengt!
 
Detta är bara en parentes till svaret jag fick av dig.
 
Jag har nyss tittat i ett mail från min farfars brorsbarn i WA där han berättar att Aunt Jenny bodde i Vancouver, Canada. Detta måste ha varit på slutet av 50-talet. Då var Nels och Jenny i 70-års åldern.
 
Barnen kan ju ha bott kvar i Olympia, trots att föräldrarna flyttade till Kanada. Därav familjen stående framför ett hus i Olympia år 1952.
 
Mvh
 
Ann-Mari Bäckman

[Bengt Johansson]

Hej Monica
 
Jag har försökt hitta Karl Albert i 1920 och 1930 års census, men har inte lyckats. Det finns 7 st Charles Hakanson i vardera censuset, men ingen i rätt ålder, och de flesta har dessutom annan initial i andranamnet. Kallar han sig istället Olson är det nog svårt att hitta honom, då namnet är vanligt. Söker man i 1920 års census efter Charles Olson, född i Sverige, får man 401 träffar.
 
Hälsningar
Bengt

[Monica Svedberg]

Hej Bengt!
Tack för att du har letat. Förstår att det antagligen är omöjligt att hitta honom. Förmodligen tog han sig ett helt annat namn och då är det ju kört. Tack än en gång.
Hälsingar
Monica

[Ann-Mari Bäckman]

Hej!
 
Min farfars bror John Forsgren f. 1888 utvandrade till Minnesota år ?, för att senare bosätta sig i Tacoma, WA.
 
Sonen Roy föddes 1919 i Tacoma, så i 1920 års census borde familjen finnas med.
 
Enligt ett barnbarn så flyttade John tillbaks till Sverige efter det att han blivit änkling. Detta skulle ha skett kring 1930, efter den stora depressionen, när nu den var.
 
Min fråga är, finns familjen med i 1920 års census och i 1930 års?
 
Jag tycker det skulle vara intressant att veta var de bodde i Sverige. Skulle de då inte finnas med i 1930 års census, så innebär det att far och son fanns i Sverige då. De återvände sedan igen till Tacoma.
 
Mvh
 
Ann-Mari Bäckman

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ann-Mari.
Jovisst finns John med familj i Tacoma 1930, 1719 South M. Street
 
John T Forsgren  
Age:    41 years  
Estimated birth year:    1888  
(invandrat 1912 från Sverige)
Birthplace:    Sweden  
Relation to Head-of-house:    Head  
Race:    White  
Home in 1930:    Tacoma, Pierce, Washington  
Occupation:    cobbler(= skomakare), shoe repair shop
 
home value:    3.600 dlrs
Age at first marriage:    29
Parents' birthplace:    Sweden
Owned a radio:    yes
Image Source:    Year: 1930; Census Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington; Roll: T626_2510; Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 124; Image: 0784.  
   
 
 fru och barn:
 
 Minnie, wife, 29 years, born in Illinois, parents born in Sweden.age at first marriage 27.
Roy T. , son, 10
Lind E. , 2  3/12   (2 år 3 mån)

[Bo Nordenfors (Nob)]

Ann-Marie:
 
I SSDI finner jag en Roy, som antagligen passar:
 
Individual Record FamilySearchT U.S. Social Security Death Index
30 September 2000  
 
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   Roy FORSGREN    
    Birth Date: 1 Sep 1919  
    Death Date: Oct 1981  
    Social Security Number:  538-03-6913  
    State or Territory Where Number Was Issued:  Washington