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Författare Ämne: Nelson (Nilsson), Hilda b1879 Skåne ? Emigr 1898  (läst 1347 gånger)

2010-10-23, 21:01
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Utloggad Hiel Lindquist

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Hello,
I wonder if someone can assist me as I have reached a dead end on my search for my grandmother and another relative.  I'll post my grandmother question here and the other relatives in another post.
 
My grandmother's name from family records was Hilda Nelson and I am searching for her birth location and parents names.  She married Carl Lind and I have several generations for Carl.  He was from Timmele parish in Älvsborg and emigrated 1896-05-17 arriving in Boston in 1896-05.  He lived in Concord, NH, where he met and married Hilda.  All my info. for Carl was found on Genline and in Emibas, so I am confident it is correct.  His father was a soldier with names of Anders Lind and August Johansson.  His mother was Lotta Ivansdotter, who remarried Andreas Pattersson in 1874 after Anders died.  
 
I know from family records Hilda's birth date was 1879-01-20 (the year and month verified on the 1900 and 1910 USA census).  The 1910 USA census also indicated her immigration year as 1898.  I suspect she came from Skåne county because her cousin was said to be from there but no one in the family knows for sure.  She and Carl were married 1900-11-03 in Concord, NH.  Her name in the 1900 USA census, prior to marriage was Hilda Nilson.  She worked for a Roberts family in Concord as a servant.  Is it possible they paid for her travel to USA?
 
Based on my knowledge of Swedish naming customs, I am pretty sure her family name would be some form of Nils....  I have searched the 1890 Swedish Census for the name Hilda with a birthdate 1879-01 and a father Nils but had no success that seemed to fit.  I did find a birth for a Hilda for 1879-01-18 (GID 100011.87.45300) for Hjärså, Kristianstad.  However, going forward in time, I loose the link for her on the family record GID 1661.5.3600 from 1894 as I cannot read the moving to information.  Also, I cannot find this person on the emmigration records on Emibas for the 1897-1898 period.  
 
I also tried the Swedish Census for 1890 but could not find anyone with a name of Hilda or Mathild or Thilda with a birthdate of 1879-01 and a father's name of Nils.  
 
I have a subscription for Genline, but I do not currently have access to Emibas or the Swedish Census cd's.
 
Any suggestions, information on additional sources, or verification of the searches I have already completed would be of help.  
 
Thanks in advance.  ö
 
Hiel

2010-10-24, 10:22
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Utloggad Mats Ahlgren

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Do you have information about Hilda's cousin?
It is possible that Hilda's father was called Nilsson, or mother if she didn't have a living father, if that was an easier name (in USA) than her former name

2010-10-24, 10:41
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GID 1661.5.3600, [Kristianstad] Hjärsås, AI.4, Household examination, 1886-1894, page 86, Image 36.
 
The father Nils Nilsson dies 1887-07-05, the son Sven moves 1894 to page 339, but Hilda and her mother do not move out, it is only Hilda's odöpt (un-baptised) after her name that is crossed out.
 
So Hilda is still there after 1894, but I don't see her in the 1900 Swedish Census, so perhaps she had emigrated.
 
 
This might be her emigration, from the EMIHAMN database on the Emigranten CD:
 
Name: HILDA NILSDOTTER
Age: 19
Parish: HJÄRSÅS
County: L (Kristianstad)
Title: JUNGFRU [maid, female servant]
Port: MALMÖ
Date: 1898-04-19
Destination: PROCTOR VT
Fellows: NEJ (Alone)
Source code: 1898:444:11384
 
// Bo Johansson

2010-10-24, 15:35
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Thank you for the excellent information and the quick response.  Hilda's record on EMIHAMN appears to be the missing link.  I was not sure that Hilda Nilsdotter from HJÄRSÅS was my grandmother, but now I am more confident that I have found the correct records.
 
Yes, Proctor, Vermont is a strange destination, but not too far from Concord, NH.  Her cousin lived in Concord, so that would explain her connection.
 
Her cousin brings me to my second question.  The cousins name was Anna Johnson (obviously some from of Jöns, Johan, etc), birth date 1866-01 (from USA census).  Her mother's name was Hanna Johnson, birth in 1828-07 (also from USA census, but the family says she was born in 1826).  Anna had a daughter named Alma Nelson b January 1889 or 1890 (USA census show the date as 1889, but the family says it was 1890).  Family stories say Hanna, Anna, and Alma came to the USA when Alma was around 3 years old. Anna married George Hanson from Denmark, but I am not sure if they were married before or after the immigration.  It is possible they traveled to Denmark before coming to the USA.
 
Alma died in Washington DC during the world flu epidemic of 1918.  
 
I did find records on Genline (GID 1732.45.14900) in Östra Broby which appear to match, but I loose the link on record GID - 1732.48.16000 and the moving out record GID - 1732.57.29500 (I cannot read the name of the parish).
 
I would like the find the correct records for Anna and her family and also find the birth information for Alma.  I could not find Alma in the Swedish Census for 1890.  Finding the emmigration records would confirm the link to my family.  It is possible that they traveled to Maine in the USA as that is where the Hanson family lived.  I could not find the records for County Kristianstad for these parishes in the 1830's, which would confirm the link the Hilda's family.  
 
Thanks again for any help you can offer.

2010-10-24, 17:45
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I think this is Anna, her daughter Alma, and mother Hanna from the EMIHAMN/Emigranten CD:
 
First name: ANNA
Last name: CARLSDOTTER
Age: 26     Gender: K
Parish: HJÄRSÅS     County: L
Title/Note: ARB. P
Port: MALMÖ
Date: 1892 08 25
Destination: KINGMAN ME
Fellows: JA
Source: 1892:4013:7841
 
First name: ALMA
Head: CARLSDOTTER ANNA
Age: 3     Gender: K
Parish: HJÄRSÅS     County: L
Port: MALMÖ
Date: 1892 08 25
Destination: KINGMAN ME
Fellows: JA
Source: 1892:4013:7841
 
First name: HANNA
Last name: NIKLASDOTTER
Age: 64     Gender: K
Parish: HJÄRSÅS     County: L
Title/Note: HUSTRU
Port: MALMÖ
Date: 1892 08 25
Destination: KINGMAN ME
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 1892:4012:7840
 
They can be found before emigrating at SE/LLA/13155 Hjärsås AI:4 (1886-1894)  Image 220 Page 306 (gid 1661.5.19100).  Anna was born 5 Jan 1866 in Örkened, her parents were Karl Jönsson and Hanna Niklasdotter.  You'll see Hanna at the top of the page, born 17 Feb 1828 in Örkened and she also emigrates to North America the same day that Anna and Alma leave (19 Aug 1892), it says in the margin that Hanna is going to join her husband farmer Karl Jönsson.  Alma was born 9 Feb 1889 in Hjärsås.  Anna also has another illegitimate daughter named Hilda born 21 Feb 1891 in Hjärsås but she died there 13 May 1892.

2010-10-24, 19:20
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Unfortunately, most of the Hjärsås church books were destroyed in a fire 1895, so it will be difficult to check if Hilda's mother Kersti Jönsdotter born 1837-09-13 in Hjärsås and Alma's father Carl Jönsson born 1834-09-16 Hjärsås, are in fact siblings.
 
Carl Jönsson, Hanna Niklasdotter and children can be found at påarp in GID 1661.10.54000,  [Kristianstad] Hjärsås, AI.3, Household examination, 1876-1885, page 165, Image 150.
 
Carl Jönsson gets a certificate for America 1882-05-16, and is moved 1883-12-11 to page 382. Unfortunately that page (missing persons?) is missing in Genline.
 
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2010-10-24, 19:52
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thank you so much for the information.  I will take some time to verify the family records, but that is certainly the family in the EMIHAMN database.

2010-10-24, 20:11
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A copy of page 382 exists in the next Household examination,from Arkiv Digital. SE/LLA/13155 Hjärsås AI:4 (1886-1894)  Bild 298  
It is written, that Karl Jönsson travelled to North Amerika,  in 1883.
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av mats 2010-10-24 22:05)

2010-10-24, 21:42
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Small correction: It states that Karl Jönsson is gone to N Amerika, but not when. The year 1883 is the year he was entered in this book.

2010-10-25, 04:32
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Thank you to everyone for your assistance.  I now have a connection for my history records in the USA to my history records in Sweden.  The Lind and Nelson family has always been a mystery to my family here in the USA, but now it has been solved!!
 
My father was the youngest son of Carl Lind and Hilda Nelson.  Hilda died when he was young and Carl soon after, so there was only bits of information that I had from my father before he died.  Using what small amount of information, and with all your help, I now have a complete genealogy going back to 1800.

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