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Författare Ämne: Hellenius, Andreas in Venjan (?) - Children  (läst 871 gånger)

2010-03-21, 09:56
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Peter Ziegte von Manteuffel

Perhaps someone can help, please?
I research my family Zoege von Manteuffel and its other Baltic lines. I found an Andreas Hellenius who was a pastor (vicar, priest) in probably Venjan (the German text reads Wernjahn, which does not exist, or could it be another place?). His daughter Susanna was born 4.4.1687 in Venjan ?). The mother was Anna Brovelius.
Daughter Susanna first married a NN Zoege (also written Zöge), and after he died around 1710, she married again as a widow in ..?.. Peter Grass, they lived in Livland where they had 5 children, the names are known. Susanna died 25.3.1772 and was buried in Wolmar, Livland, at age 84.  
I would like to find out more details about her first marriage. It may have been in Sweden, likely in Venjan, because at that time there were many Zoeges as officers etc. in Karls (XI.) army. Can one find the church book for Venjan in the internet?
Can someone offer help, please??
Thank you -   Peter

2010-03-21, 19:39
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Venjan is the right parish. Andreas Hellenius is the pastor but there is no Susanna born in 1687. If somebody has access to the Herdaminne for Västerås stift they can no doubt find Hellenius and his family.

2010-03-22, 16:25
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2010-03-23, 09:30
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Peter Zoege von Manteuffel

Thank you, Christina, for confirming the parish of Venjan. Can I dig somewhere and look up the Herdaminne for Västerås?
Also thank you, Bo, for this Hellenius family tree. It starts just a little too late. I am also aware of the numerius mentionings of Hellenius in Elgenstierna, particularly under Enehielm. There the family starts with Carl Hellenius - härad 1696-1710, gift med Anna Hermigier, (and their son was adlad 1770-05-28).
Timewise Carl might be a brother of Susanna, because Susanna must have married exactly in the same period, around 1700.
Tack så mycket  -    Peter

2010-03-23, 21:21
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Ekströms Herdaminne för Västerås stift : can nobody do a lookup for Peter?

2011-08-05, 16:07
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2011-08-05, 18:19
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Hi all,
According to Gunnar Ekström, Västerås stifts herdaminne, II:1, 1600-talet, p 121f, Andreas Olai Hellenius (1641-1697) had no daughter Susanna, born in 1687. There was a Susanna, born in Venjan 1691, but she died 1702, so she is not the right one. Ekström has a daughter Maria, b 1686, d 1687 and another Maria b 1688, d 1764, so he cannot possibly have left out a child.  
The names Peter Grass and Zoege, Zöge, are not to be found in the book about the vicars of Västerås diocese 1600-1699. There is a Anna Brovallia, born 1667, died 1733 and married to Samuel Gustavi Lodigius, but they had no children.
Sorry, but this what the best source to be found tells.
Leif Olofsson

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