Äldre inlägg (arkiv) till 2000-06-29

[Donna Corlett]

Hi! My relatives came from Björna parish- (Västernorrland). They lived in Björna, and then Hemling before they left to emigrate to Canada in May of 1913. Their names: Nils, Edla Kristina and their children- Gottnar and Gerda HEDBERG.  
 
I have had much help and luck locating information for Nil's mother...I would love to be able to find out who Nil's fathers parents and siblings were. Nils father's name was Sven Jonsson Hedberg and he was born in 1837 in Anundsjö parish, Västernorrland.  
According to the 1890 census, Sven Jonsson Hedberg and his family (wife-Sigrid and children-Jonas, Märta, Nils, Sven, Sigrid and Jakob)lived in a place called Häggsjöbäcken (Anundsjö parish). While I was looking around that site ...I checked the statistics portion and found that at the time of the census there were apparently only two families in Häggsjöbäcken (Anundsjö parish). The mother listed for the other family was: Stina Magdalena JONSDOTTER. I realize that name could have been quite common (Jonsdotter) but...could this possibly be Sven Jonsson's sister? Häggsjöbäcken appears to have been a very small place (?) in Anundsjö parish...at the time of the census of 1890 anyway.  
 
Your comments (and possible confirmation, additional information!!) would be much appreciated...  
 
Kind regards,  
Donna

[Björn Pilström]

Donna!
 
In the book 'Anundsjö släkter och gårdar' (Families and farms of Anundsjö) p 103 I find under Häggsjöbäcken that Stina Magdalena Jonsdotter was most likely NOT Sven Jonsson Hedbergs sister. She was born in Tegelträsk, Åsele parish in 1839; he was born in Ödsbyn (Anundsjö) in 1837. Sven's parents were later farmers on Hädanberg 4:7, and on p. 96 we can see that his father was Jon Svensson, b. 1812 on Ödsbyn 1:2, his mother Anna Greta Svensdotter, b. 1817 on Västergensjö 2:2. He died in 1885, she in 1888, they got married (most certainly in Anundsjö) in 1837.
On p. 337 (Ödsbyn) we can read that Jon Svensson's parents were Sven Nilsson (1783, Ödsbyn 1:1-1862) and Stina Jonsdotter(1786, Sörmesunda 1:1 -1872) married in 1807 (in Anundsjö, supposedly). Sven Nilsson's parents were Nils Olofsson (1741, Näs-1813) and Ingeborg Edvardsdotter (1748, Sörflärke -1810) married in 1769.
Nils Olofsson's parents were Olof Nilsson, (1710, Näs 3:1-1769) and Kristin Ersdotter (1710,Yttersel 3:1-1769) married in 1737.
Anna Greta Svensdotter's parents in Västergensjö (p. 308) were Sven Jonsson (1789, Sörflärke 6:5-1866) and Märet Salmonsdotter(1789, Norrflärke 5:1-1862) married in 1809.
Stina Jonsdotter's parents at Sörmesunda 1:1 (p.284) were Jon Christopherson (1756, Sörmesunda-1831) and Karin Jonsdotter (1760, Risbäck-1819) married in 1783. Jon Christopherson's parents were Christopher Pärson (1719, Näs 6:1-1793) and Kerstin Jonsdotter (1715, Sörmesunda 1:1-1802) married in 1742.  
I could go on and follow all your lines for a long time, probably well into the early 17th century, but that was at least a teaser for you.

[Donna Corlett]

Björn: Hi!  I just saw this -after getting your private mail as well...and many thanks to you for providing this information! (Please feel free to tease away!)
One question to ask...if I may (?!!)
Did this book on Anundsjö farms and families note any siblings to Sven Jonsson Hedberg?
 
Kindest regards,
Donna

[Björn Pilström]

Sorry to disappoint you, Donna!
 
The book is structured so that you can see where a person is born and who was the proprietor of a certain farm at a given point of time, but you don't get the information on which children a given person had. That means that you can trace people backwards in time but not forward. So I really don't know anything about Sven's siblings. To find that I guess you have to go to the original church records, which I don't have.
 
Let's keep in touch - we probably have some common ancestors (most of my mother's ancestors come from the region in and around Anundsjö!).
 
Best    /Björn

[karin]

Donna,
From the book Anundsjö släkter och gårdar I have found five siblings to Sven Jonsson Hedberg, all of them born at Hädanberg 4:7.
1. JONAS JONSSON HEDBERG born in 1839,
   married 1) in 1865 to Sara Lisa Israelsdotter,
   born in 1845 in Norrflärke, died in 1892,
   married 2) in 1893 to Anna Kajsa Nilsdotter,
   born in 1863 in Hädanberg 5:2.
Jonas lived in Hädanberg 2:3 1873-1875, and in Hädanberg 6:4 1875-1895.
2. MÄRTA STINA JONSDOTTER born in 1841,
   married  in 1864 to Olof Larsson, born in 1839  
   Näs 4:3
3. SALOMON JONSSON born in 1843, married in 1871
   to Märta Catharina Svensdotter born in 1845
   Storborgaren 1:4.
4. INGA CATHARINA JONSDOTTER born in 1845,
   in 1878 to Pehr Olofsson born in 1851,
   Hädanberg 5:4.
5. ANNA MARIA JONSDOTTER born in 1856, married in
   1875 to Olof Eriksson born in 1851, Nordsjö
   1:6.
 
   All these places are located in Anundsjö
   parish.

[Donna Corlett]

Hi Karin! What great information and an extra thank you for sending me the picture of Jonas's residence (1873-1875).  I was just thrilled when I saw it all!!
I have taken the noted information and through the 1890 census have located all the siblings (and their spouses) to Sven Jonsson Hedberg...and their children!!  I am grateful to you for your help with this.  Thanks again.
Can I ask...when was this book made?  By whom?  Was it a regional study of some sort?  
 
Kindest regards,
Donna

[karin]

Hi Donna,
I´m glad you find the information useful.
The authors of the book Anundsjö släkter och gårdar are:
Anna-Greta Näslund, Paul Olsson, Per Sundin and Sven Z Sundin.
Published by: Ceweförlaget, Bjästa, 1982. (Bjästa is a place just outside the town Örnsköldsvik). There may be a more recent edition.
I have many ancestors to from Anundsjö, and I think this book is very interesting.
Wish you good luck in your search for your ancestors. Feel free to send more questions.
Karin

[Donna Corlett]

Hi!  I am hoping to help locate some EDLUNDS from Anundsjö.  I did find the following on the 1890 census:
Jonas Svensson Edlund-Born 1856 (The exact date I believe is January 23, 1856).  I know that eventually Jonas married and then raised a family...moving to Skorped parish. I am not sure exactly when he went there though!  I assume before his marriage as his wife was born in Skorped parish-and all their children as well.
Anyway...the main thing that I am so hoping to locate is the parents (and their siblings) to Jonas Svensson Edlund...which I assume were also likely to be from Anundsjö.  Can anyone please help with this one?  (A special hello and help! request to Björn and Karin!!)
 
Thank you very much for your time...hope to hear from you soon!!
 
Kind regards,
Donna

[Björn Pilström]

Karin!
Hur i hela världen har du lyckats spåra Sven Hedbergs syskon från Anundsjö-boken. Har du läst igenom och katalogiserat materialet eller har du bara sträckletat på chans??

[Björn Pilström]

Donna!
 
I got and replied to a mail from Eric, but I might as well post an answer to you. I managed to find Jonas and his wife through the 1890 census, as I guess you might have done yourself. However, that doesn't give you any information about who his parents were. But maybe KARIN can help here as well.
Do you keep the full church records for Anundsjö, Karin? That would probably help both Donna and Eric out a lot.

[karin]

Hej Björn!
Jag har tittat igenom boken och sökt födda på Hädanberg 4:7 med namnet Jonsson Hedberg. Alla personerna är födda där under den tid som Sven Jonsson Hedbergs föräldrar Jon Svensson och Anna Greta Svensdotter var innehavare av Hädanberg 4:7. Jag började lite på skoj men såg att det stämde så bra med de två första, så jag bestämde mig för att gå igenom hela boken. Det tog faktiskt mindre tid än jag hade väntat mig.
Karin

[karin]

Donna!
As Björn already mentioned the 1890 census doesn´t give any information about who Jonas´ parents were. Now perhaps it´s time to go to the library to look for them. I live in a town in the nothern Sweden called Umeå, and at our library they have the church records of Västernorrland. I´ll be back.
Karin

[Donna Corlett]

Björn and Karin:  What can I say?  You are both fabulous!!..and I appreciate all your efforts to help me-greatly!!
I'll keep checking here...oh about every ten minutes or so!!  It's just so exciting, I can't help it!!
 
Thanks so much!
Donna

[Eivin Wallinder]

Är det någon som har uppgifter om min fffmmffar
och mor Olof Nilsson f1742 enl hfb och hustrun
Karin Olofsdotter f 1740 dom står skrivna i myckelgensjö i slutet av 1700.Sonen Nils f 1778 19/10 är min ana.
 
 Hälsn.Eivin.

[Donna Corlett]

Karin:  Is the town in which you live the same Umeå as noted on the site (Umeå university) where the 1890 Swedish census is from on-line?
 
Also, I do not want to impose on your kindness but I would love to ask you if you ever saw my entry/query for my found Edlunds under Trehörningsjö parish.  I noted there that I had found my gm's cousin here in Canada.  His name is Sigurd Edlund (born here)and he is now 82 years...young!  Anyway, I found his fathers family on the 1890 census...but would love to trace his family further.  Who were the siblings to his grandfather Abraham Edlund (born 1849) in Trehörningsjö?  Whom did his aunts and uncles marry...did they have children?  I tried searching the 1890 census for Edlunds born in Tre-sjö and it only came up with 15 matches.  
 
Since you noted that the church records are at the library for Västernorrland...would it be possible to look into that for me?  I checked to see the locations of Trehörningsjö, Björna, Anundsjö and Gideå.  I found that they all were in the NE section of Västernorrland-correct?  The sequence seemed to be (left to right)- Anundsjö, Björna, Trehörningsjö and then Gideå.  According to the 1890 census...the number of Edlunds born in each of the parishes I have noted are:
Anundsjö-18, Björna-18,  Trehörningsjö-18 and Gideå-72 (wow- that seemed alot comparatively speaking!).  Does this help at all?!!
   
Björn also sent me some interesting information recently which noted that Trehörningsjö was cleaved off from Gideå in 1872 (church records separate from 1865).  That is why I also noted Gideå-OK?!!
 
Well this was an after thought (sorry!)...and you may well have already gone to the library-however I thought I'd mention it just in case it was possible to check as well. (?)
 
Thank you very much for your time.  Believe me, I appreciate all the trouble you have already gone to!!
 
Kindest regards,
Donna

[Rune Edström]

Hej Eivin
Ur Anundsjö släkter och gårdar
Dom finns på Myckelgensjö 5:4 mellan åren 1779-1786. Sen flyttar dom till Fjällsjö, men hittar ingen lämplig i Agneta Olofssons Fjällsjöhäfte.
 
 Olof Nilsson f 1749 Myckelgensjö 5:1 död 1721 gift 1776 med Carin Olsdotter f 1740 Näs(Ödsbyn 1:1) död 1822.
mvh
rune

[mats]

Hi Donna!
 
I found one Jonas Svensson, born on January 23rd, 1856 (baptized January 27th) in Tvärlandsböle, Anundsjö parish. He was a son of the crofter Sven Jonsson (b. 1822) and his wife Sara Stina Ersdotter (b. 1826). The family moved in 1860 and I am not sure where to, but it can be to Skorped parish. Can this be the person you are looking for?
 
Kind regards,
 
Mats Johansson

[Eivin Wallinder]

Hej Rune!
Tack för hjälpen.Jag har ett lån bokat på boken du nämnde,den verkar vara populär jag har väntat över en månad.
 
Hälsn.Eivin från Borlänge.

[Donna Corlett]

Mats: Hi!  Thanks for your message!!  I think that this could be the person I am seeking...where did you find this information? Was there not any notation of the family name Edlund?
 
You note that the family moved in 1860...of course you are referring to Sven Jonsson (1826) and his family...again could I please ask where you retrieved this information from-church records? or?....
 
I am quite excited and hopeful that this is indeed the right person!  I know that the Jonas Svensson Edlund that I am looking for was born on January 23, 1856.  I found him (and his family) on the 1890 census...and it notes there that he was born in Anundsjö parish...but not exactly where.  His wife Märta Nilsdotter (born 1856) and all their children (4) were also born in Skorped parish...well, all children born by the census of 1890-of course (any others?)....
 
I would really love to hear from you again!!
 
Thank you very much, Mats!!
 
Kind regards,
Donna

[mats]

Hi Donna!
 
That is correct that all information about Jonas Svensson is from the Church Records. I found them in the Household books (AI:10B page 459 in Tvärlandsböle). Sven was a crofter and had at least three children, Jonas born January 23rd, 1856, Maria Christina born September 16th, 1857 (baptized September 20th) and Sara Catharina born September 11th, 1859 (September 12th). They moved away in 1860 and it's hard to see on the microcard because it's bad written. Maybe it says Skorped! I haven't got the travel records for Anundsjö (I'm not sure if there are any so far back either)! If this is your ancestor, it's possible that we are related because I also have some ancestors from Tvärlandsböle.  
 
In which village did you found Jonas Svensson Edlund in the Census 1890?  
 
Kind regards,
 
Mats

[Donna Corlett]

Mats: Hi!  Thanks for your response!  
The village that I found Jonas Svensson Edlund in, according to the 1890 census was Mosjö (Skorped parish).  I also know that he passed away June 25, 1911 in Mosjö.
 
May I ask you...where geographically is Tvärlandsböle located?  It is within the Anundsjö parish-correct?  I will have to try to look that up!
Was this an extremely small place...and how old is it?  I tried searching it on the census site and could only find it noted as the residence for approximately 28 individuals.  When I tried searching it with just the birthplace option...it found 0 matches...not one?!
 
Well I am going to try to find a few things...will get back here soon...and hope to hear back from you too!!
 
Kind regards,
Donna

[Donna Corlett]

Mats: I'm back...again!!  Well I stand corrected-as the search for Tvärlandsböle actually turned up 73 matches...but none that matched...
 
Another oops on my part!!  I forgot to mention last time...was there (or was there not!) mention of the family name EDLUND in these records you checked?  
 
Again...thanks so much for your time and I look forward to hearing from you!
 
Best regards,
Donna

[mats]

Hi Donna!
 
The place Tvärlandsböle is a small village in Anundsjö parish. It's about 10 or 15 kilometres north of Mosjö, Skorped parish. I haven't found anything that says that they were called Edlund. They must have taken that name later when they settled in Skorped parish.  
 
We must look at the Church records for Skorped parish and follow the family back to see if we can connect your Jonas Svensson Edlund with that Jonas Svensson I found in Anundsjö parish. I haven't got the records for Skorped parish at home but I will try to see if they have it at the Archive in Östersund! Maybe someone else has the records for Skorped and is able to look it up!
 
Kind regards,
 
Mats

[karin]

Hi Donna!
I haven´t been able to use the internet for a while, as our server has been down.
Yes I live in the town where the 1890 census is from.
I think Mats is right - Jonas´ parents are Sven Jonsson and Sara Stina Ersdotter. I found them in the Household records of Sporped parish. They married October 10, 1852. There were another son Erik, born April 16 in Skorped parish. So that would be right, as they moved in 1860. He can be found in the 1890 census.
Sven married again in 1872, to Anna Johansdotter born February 2, 1843 i Skorped parish, and she can also be found in the 1890 census. There are two Anna Johansdotter born in 1843 in Mosjö, but I found the children Sven, born February 29 1872, Gustaf born August 5 1874, and Anna Dorotea born May 29 1879, in the Household records, so she must be the right Anna. However there was no Per Johan as in the 1890 census, but he must be possible to find. Sven died March 13 1886.
I haven´t searched for Sara Stinas parents yet - the library closed, but the time will come for that.
Sven´s parents were Jonas Gustafsson, born 1793 in Tvärlandsböle, died 1848 and Sara Svensdotter, born February 2 1797 in Brandkäl, Anundsjö parish.
Sven and Sara I found in Anundsjö släkter och gårdar, so there is more to find.
Look up Ödsbyn on maps.expedia.com/publ/agent
Tvärlandsböle is located just next to Ödsbyn, about 70 km northwest of the town Örnsköldsvik. About 100 km norht of Ö-vik you find Umeå.
About Sigurd Edlunds ancestors - I will try to find them.
Kind regards
Karin

[Donna Corlett]

Mats: Hi!  Thanks for your efforts...and it looks like it is a match-as you can see Karin's message affirms your findings!!
This is fantastic...although I am still not positive that this Edlund definitively connects to my relatives...I had believed there may be a connection-and had seen Eric Edlunds postings in the English portion of the Rötter site-and someone else suggested that there may possibly be a connection...!!?! I am interested to follow this though to see....
 
I am POSITIVE that Sigurd Edlund (did you see that note from me?) is a relative...he is (and was!) the cousin of my gm Gerda Regina Hedberg-also from Anundsjö.
I would absolutely love to hear of findings for Sigurd's family/ancestors!
 
I thank you so very much!!!
 
Kindest regards,
Donna

[Donna Corlett]

Hi Karin!  Glad to see that you are back!  So what is the town of Umeå like?
 
Thanks for your in depth answer...you certainly affirmed Mats findings and then added even more details!!  Wonderful-as usual!
I know that Eric Edlund will be thrilled...and I still hope to discover just how connected  Edlund's from Aunudsjö really are-is there a relation to my family (or not).  Any suggestions on how to address this?
 
I would so appreciate your checking into Sigurd's family for me, Karin.  It would just mean the world to him (and me!).
 
I will await your next (fabulous!) posting...
 
Kindest regards,
Donna

[karin]

Hi again Donna!
I have a question about Sigurd Edlund. Abraham was his grandfather, right? Who was his father?
I have made reservations to borrow two books from the University library. Skorped and Sidensjö: Familys and Farms and a book which includes  Trehörningsjö and Bjurholm. Maybe I can find something of interest there.
Where in Canada do you live?
Karin

[Donna Corlett]

Hi Karin!  Yes, Abraham Edlund was Sigurd's grandfather.  Sigurd's father was Abraham Bernhard Edlund (born 1879).  
 
The children of Abraham Edlund (born 1849)and his wife Kristina Andersdotter (born 1855) were as follows (from the 1890 census-including Sigurd's dad!):
Olof-born 1876
Abraham Bernhard-born 1879
Kristina Eugenia-born 1883
Anders Johan-born 1885
Maria-born 1885  
Jonas Leonard-born 1888
Fridolfva-born 1890
All were born in Trehörningsjö parish...except for Abraham's wife Kristina Andersdotter who was born in Bjurholm parish.  At the time of the census Abraham and his family were living in a place called Lomviken (Trehörningsjö parish).
Also...are Anders Johan and Maria twins?! (born the same year!).  That would be quite interesting as twins run in the family (it seems!)...I am myself a twin!
 
Sigurd's father Abraham Bernhard emigrated to Canada in 1902...destined to Winnipeg- but eventually settled in BC.  He met and married Maria Johanna Sjöberg (another Swede!-from Bjurholm parish, Västerbotten county) and my ggm's sister!  My ggm was Edla Kristina Hedberg (also formerly Sjöberg).  Alot to tell from there for Sigurd's immediate family in Canada...much tragedy.
 
Sigurd was thrilled to see the ship list I found listing his father (and his mothers from 1910)as well as the print outs I found from the 1890 census...he is so EXCITED to learn more from Sweden!  He did tell me that he was sure that his father had a brother named Richard...thus I would assume he would of been born after the census, correct?
He also was sure that he got/saw mail from one of his father's sisters (which?!) from Svenskop..he thought that she may have married a man named Persson, Pehrsson (not sure which)...and moved there.
Any other questions?  Please just ask me!  Oh yes, I live in Toronto, Ontario (the mega-city!).
 
Well, Karin...thanks alot! I truly look forward to your next message- with great anticipation and unlimited gratitude!!
 
Best regards,
Donna

[Eivin Wallinder]

Hej Rune!
Sedan jag fått åren då Olof och Karin dog har jag
hittat dem i db för Anundsjö.Olof dog 1821 22/4 i  
fattigstugan,Karin dog 1822 27/7 på Wallen dom gifte sig 1776 13/10.
Hälsn. Eivin.

[Donna Corlett]

Hi Karin!  I am so anxious to see what will come of those books you previously mentioned.  I hope to hear from you- as soon as it is possible of course...and that it will be great news (as usual!!).  I can't thank you enough...and just wanted to let you know that.  Your kind efforts are really appreciated-more than you know!
 
Best regards,
Donna