Fyf (Feif) in Stockholm, 1600-1750

[Carol MacKay]

I am researching four FYF brothers who came to Stockholm from Scotland circa 1600:
 
FYF, Jacob,died 1658 was a brewer in Stockholm.  Married Karin Olofsdotter Torne in 1625.
 
FYF, Robert
FYF, David, townsman in Stockholm. His son, Henric, married Anna Salomonsdotter.
FYF, Donat, died Stockholm in 1650's.  Son, Hans was a merchant in Holstein & later, Danzig.
 
Also looking for information about the family of Kirsten Donatsson FEIF, and husband, Anders LUNDERHOFF, vicar in Jacobi, Stockholm and asst. vicar in Almunge.

[Göran Johnson]

Feif is a swedish noble family (nr 1405) described in Svenska adelns ättartavlor by Gustaf Elgenstierna, 1926. According to this book Alexander Feif (Fyf) had two sons, Jakob, died 1658 and Donat, died 1652. All their male ancestors are also described in the book. Robert and David are not metioned. Jakob, a brewer married Karin Olofsdotter 1625 (died 1644) and Elsa Grundel in the second marriage. He had the son Peter Feif born 1635, died 1711 (?)who married 1661 Maria Hoff, born 1643, died 1683. They had three sons Casten (born 1662, Peter (born 1675) and Johan (born 1682). They were all raised to the nobility under the same name. Donat Feif, merchant, married Karin Börielsdotter 1630 and Sara Andersdotter (Kasten) 1645 in his second marriage. They had the son Donat born 1648, died 1709, goldsmith, in Stockholm. He married Maria Insen. They had the sons Donat and Christoffer, both raised to the nobility, Donat under the name of Adlerstolpe and Christoffer under the name of Ehrensparre. I can´t find the son Hans or Kirsten Donatsson Feif. Her name ought to be Kirsten Donatsdotter Feif if her fathers name was Donat? Is this information of any use?

[Ingemar Goliath]

Hello, Carol!
 
From the two tiny booklets S:t Nikolai Kyrkas i Stockholm Vigselbok (1609 - 1650)  
(1651 - 1700), edited 1894 and 1897 by F U Wrangel:
 
Jacob Feiff married:
 
1) 1625 Feb 27, Jungfru Karin Olufsdotter(Torne).    
   Children, bapt in S:t Nikolai:
   Olof, 1626 Feb 26; Jakob, 1628 Jul 29;   Anders,   1629 Oct 17;
   Peter, 1635 May 25; Welam, 1636 Dec 1; Anna, 1639 Jan 2.
 
2) 1646 Jun 16, Ellsa Grundell (born 1615, dead 1693)  
 
Donat Feiff married:
 
1) 1630 Jan 10, Karin Borjesdotter.  
   Children, bapt in S:t Nikolai:
   Jacob, 1632 Nov 6; Henrik, 1634 Jul 3;  
   Hans, 1636 Oct 24; Zanner (Alexander) 1638 May 3.
 
2) 1645 Mar 2, Sara Andersdotter (Kasten).  
   Children, bapt in S:t Nikolai:  
   Kerstin, 1647 Feb 6; Donat, 1648, May 18;  
   child 1649, Jul 25.
 
Best regards, Ingemar G.

[Ingemar Goliath]

Hello, again, from the same source as above:
 
David Feiff married:
 
1) 1673 Dec 9, J. Anna Antonidotter.
Children, bapt in S:t Nikolai:
David, 1674 Mar 10; Jacob, 1679 Jul 10; Abraham, 1681 Feb 10.
 
Best regards, Ingemar G.

[Sven-Ove Brattström]

Hi !
I am preparing the information I have read about Feiff/Fyf and I will present it to you as soon as possible. Most of it is from a book about students from Stockholm during the 15th century. But there is is one small issue that I must ask in advance.
Henric, married to Anna Salomonsdotter, where registred at Uppsala University as HENRICUS ANTONI FEIFF. This latin form of his name means that he was the son of ANTON, in this case - son of ANTONY. Is it any of you that have heard of a ANTONY FEIFF among these brothers ?
 
Sven-Ove Brattström

[Ingemar Goliath]

From the same source (F U Wrangel):
 
1698 Mar 25, marriage:
Hr Capitein Leutnanten Edel och manhafftigh hr Jacob Feiff sampt Jungfruu Helena Perman
 
Ingemar G.

[Sven-Ove Brattström]

Hi!,
I´m very sorry for the delay with this information. I have not had the time to present it until now. Please find the first part of the information here below, there is more to come. The source is a book, listing students, originating from Stockholm, that studied at Uppsala university during the 15th century. The book is written by Gösta Thimon. UM means Uppsala universitys registers, NM means the register for the Nation they belonged to at the University.
Please note that Henriks fader is named as Hinric (Antoni) Feiff, which would indicate that he was the son of a Anthony Feiff. But perhaps David Feiffs full name was David Anthony Feiff. This is also the reason why I present this Henrik Feiff first, even though it was not him you asked for.
 
Henricus Feiff.  Upsalis discessit A:o 1703. Variis functus muneribus publicis, Senator curiæ Holm: constituitur 1726.  (langauge = Latin)
 
Henricus (Henrik) (Hindrich) Feif(f), born in Stockholm 1683, baptized 25.9.1683 Nicolai parish, Stockholm. Parents: The Goldsmiths guildmaster Hinric (Anthoni) Feif(f) and Anna Salomonsdotter. Matriculated in UM 26.11 1694 as »Henricus Feif» together with Ludovicus Thesmar, both »Holmenses, sub privata informatione Dni Petri Salani Westmanni» (UM I:163), Matriculated in NM »d. 26. Novemb:»  [1694]. Deceased in Stockholm 23.9.1755, burial 27.9.1755 Jacobs parish, Stockholm.
Married 1707 to Catharina Larsdotter Hyltén, born in [Klara parish, Stockholm?] 1685, deceased in Stockholm (Klara parish) 14.6.1754, daughter of the Assessor (Svea Hovrätt) Lars Andersson Hyltén and his second wife Jacobina Daurer.
Children:  
Daughter  Anna Jacobina Feiff, born in Stockholm [Jacobs parish?] 14.1.1708, deceased in Stockholm (Nicolai parish) 8.4.1765, married in Stockholm (Hedvig Eleonora parish) 8.4.1731 to Julius Fredrik Ziervogel (Holmenses 1716), born in Stockholm 1698, Baptized (Tyska parish) 2.12.1698, deceased in Stockholm, passing bell in Jacobs parish 6.3.1769;
Son  Carl Henric Feiff, born in Stockholm 1713, baptized 17.5.1713 Jacobs parish in Stockholm, student at Uppsala University (Holmenses 1724), deceased in Stockholm 29.7.1754;
Daughter  Catharina Regina Feiff, born in [Stockholm?] 172(0). Deceased in Håbo-Tibble parish [Uppsala province] 6.8.1774, married 16.12.1759 (parish not known) to the military Major Jacob von Bromell, born 17.9.1718, deceased in Håbo-Tibble parish 20.5.1791, in his first marridge (2:nd marridge 1775 to Sofia Stoltz, born 1740, deceased in Uppsala 27.7.1798);
Son  Samuel Feiff, born in [Stockholm?] 1723, deceased in Nyköping 21.1.1798

[Håkan Widell]

Hello Carol!
One of my ancestors was called Robert Feif. He is supposed to have come from Scotland. I know nothing of his marriage but his daughter Sofia Robersdotter Feif was married twice, first with Per Jonae Billingius, secondly with Christopher Nicolai Spaak (Uranius) in Värmland, the western part of Sweden, dead 1687. Both her husbands were priests. Her children were called Risell.

[Håkan Widell]

Hello Carol!
Are you still with us? In Örnberg's Svenska ättartal 12 (1898), p. 206, which is a standard work about families outside the nobility, the family Feif is described:
According to this source Alexander Feif had four sons, who moved to Sweden, Jacob, Robert, David and Donat.  
As for Jacob, David and Donat I don't think there is very much information that you haven't already got.
David had four sons,David, born 1630, no children, Henric, born 1635, dead 1694, goldsmith in Stockholm and married to Anna Salomonsdotter, dead 1709. Henric and Anna had three children,  Salomon, dead 1724, goldsmith in Stockholm and civil servant (tax revenue), married 169(4) to Maria Grå (first married 1678 to Johan Ståhle, goldsmith in Stockholm, dead 1687), born 16(60), dead 1736. Salomon and Maria had two daughters, Anna and Cecilia. Henrics and Anna's second child was Elisabeth (Lisken), born 1676, dead 1747, married 1696 to Johan Helleday, born 1670, dead 1711, goldsmith in Stockholm. Their third child was Henric, born 168(2), dead 1755, councillor in Stockholm, married 170(7) to Catharina Hyltén, four children (Anna Jacobina, Carl Henric, Catharina Regina and Samuel).
Donat, born in Scotland, dead 165?, merchant in Stockholm, had eight children, of which the first four in his first marriage: Jacob, born 1632, no children; Henric, born 1634; Hans, born 1636, merchant in Holstein and later in Danzig; Alexander (Sanner), born 1638; Kirstin, born 1647, dead 168(1), married 167(7) to Anders Luderhoff (first married to Catharina Håkansdotter, dead 167(6), third marriage 1682 to Anna Frank, dead 1720), asst. vicar in Jacob parish in Stockholm, later vicar in Almunge, Uppland (north of Stockholm); Donat, born 1648, dead 1709, goldsmith in Stockholm, married 16(82) to Maria (Henricsdotter) Insen, dead 1726 (Donat and Maria had 18 children!); Carl, born 1649, dead 1720, councillor in Stockholm, married 1) 167(7)to Elisabeth Adriansdotter, dead 1678-04-05, 2) to Anna (Johansdotter) Warenberg (in the two marriages five children); Jacob, born 1651, dead unmarried by drowning, merchant, was in England 1675.
Robert had the daughter Sophia, whom I already mentioned. There is no more information about Robert.  
Carol, what is your source for information about Alexander and his four sons? Why your interest?
Best regards,

[Karl-Gösta Lennartson]

Is Robert Fyf really a brother to David, Donat and Jakob? It is doubt about that and a number of researches has been made to find out (Roland Olsson in Ed and Eric Carlqvist for ex). It seems impossible to trace Robert Feif in Stockholm at that time. it is however record of a Robert Rind (He is wittnes at babtism in the Fyfes family) how owned  a house in Gamla stan in Stockholm. Alexander Fyfes wife Jonetta was born Rynd, is it possible that Robert is her son in an earlier marriage and he is half-brother  or perhaps cousin to David, Donat and Jakob? This is of course just speculations. It is for certain that Sofia was born Robertsdotter and raised in Stockholm and it was probably in Stockholm she met her first husband Petrus Billingius my be when he left his duty as priest in the army. I'm looking forward to hear from someone how have looked into how Sofia Robertsdotters father really was.

[Carol MacKay]

Hello, Håkon & everyone!
 
I just came in to see if anyone replied to my FEIFF/FYFF, etc. inquiry and found all these comments!  Wonderful!  Thank you for all the valuable information.
 
Sophia Robertsdotter Feiff was my 9th great grandmother through her second marriage was to Christophorus Uranius (Christopher Nicolai Spak).  All I know about her father, Robert Feif, was that he had married Joneta Rynd, daughter of William Rynd of Rynd, near Montrose, according to the Svenska adelns ättar-tavlor on the Feif family.
 
Sven-Ove,
I haven't found the name Anthony yet, regarding the Feif family.  I have Henric Feif, b. 1635, m. to Anna Salomonsdotter, being the son of David.  That info was found in the aforementioned Svenska ättartal 1898.  I haven't found any original records involving David or Henric.
 
It is interesting to learn of Robert Rind...I couldn't make an educated guess at this point what the connection might be...whose baptism was he witnessing?  
 
Does anyone know anything about the Rynds or Feifs in Scotland?  I must see what might be available for Rynd during this time period.
 
Thank you Ingemar for the new information on Donat & Jacob's children!  
 
Thank you Göran, for the extra details about the Adlerstolpe & Ehrensparre names.  It does give me a lot to investigate, takk!
 
Gratefully,
Carol MacKay
Bawlf, Alberta, Canada

[Karl-Gösta Lennartson]

Robert Rind witnessed a baptism 1643-5 24 at the family of Nils Albrecht Skotte (Schotte/Skåtte)
Alexander Feif married Joneta Rynd,her father was Wilhelm Rynd of Rynd.
Letter to Erik Carlqvist from THE COURT OF THE LORD LYON H.M. NEW REGISTER HOUSE in Edinburgh: Neither Alexander Fyf nor anyone of that surname, including variant spellinga, has ever recorded Arms in Scotland....Irecommend that yoy employ a profesional genealogist.
It seems as Alexander Fyf was typical of the east coast Scots of the 17th century, who wanderd. The reason was the social structure of the time, when primogeniture prevailed. Younger sons were given the same upbringing and education as the eldest son, but on coming of age were expected to leavehome and make their own way.
The arms you give for Feif (Fuf), Azure a bend Or, have never been granted to anyone in Scotland, possibly because in mediavel times they eere very famous as the Arms of the English family  of Scrope of Danbury. The family still bears the same arms.It is possible that Alexander Fyf or one of his decendants merely appropriated these famous Arms  to himself when he settled in Sweden and made good.
The fam of Rind was an ancient and prosperous one in Forfarshire, the hinterland of Montrose, and had charters from King Robert I and King David II. Their Arms appear on a seal of James Riende in 1478, and where recorded by King of Arms Sir David Lynday 1542. The head of the family Alexander Rind, whowas then Procurer in Amsterdam recorded the Arms in 1672. These are the same Arms you give for Wiliam Rund of Rynd, father of Alexander Fyf's wife Joneta.
Letter to Erik Carlqvist from A, Rosmary Bigwood (genealogist):I have now carried out some research to try to locate Fyf and Rynd Families. I searched the register of the Privy Council from 1569-1607 and found two references which are almost certainly relevant to your ancestors:
28th May 1599
Mention of an Alexander Fyff of Montrose
2nd March 1608
Mention of Alexander Fyff, brother and heir apperent of deceased David Fyff, burgess of Montrose.
Unfortunately there are no parish registers extant fot Montrose prior to 1615 so that I fear the chanses of finding out more about this family are not vey good.
Turning to the Rynd family...I found in a book by A.J. Warden Angus or Firfarshire some information. Unfortunately, there is no proof that this is the family of Janet Rynd, but it seems possible that she was of the Rynds of Carse. I have had some difficulty to locate where carse is, but Warden deskribes it as on the south hill of Finhaven, it seems that it must be in Outlaw parish, west and a little south of Montrose. Again, I fear, it is likely to be impossible to fin out more about these connections....

[Carol MacKay]

Hello, Karl-Gösta,
 
Thank you for the wealth of information on FYF & RYND.  This gives me much to ponder.  
 
Does anyone know where the David Feiff, m Anna Antonidotter 1673, fits into this family?  Would this be the David Feiff, b. 1844 who married Anna Cleophus, b.1657 d.1692 (source:  Svenska ättartal)?  Is Anna Antonidotter = Anna Cleophus? The marriage year is the same.
 
Likewise, who is the Jacob Feiff who married Helena Perlman in 1698, from the information Ingemar Goliath provided above?
 
Carol

[Jesper Danielsson]

Länkar samman inlägg kring Feif och Rynd:
 
http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/356666.html?1350593931#POST121180 7

[Berit Wenngren]

Herr David Feiff
 
I min kartläggning av Böös-familjer, har jag hamnat i Fellingsbro och hittat följande  
i db Fellingsbro C:2 (1690-1706) Bild 23 / sid 43.
Herr David Feiffs maka Madam Anna (Christina) Cleophas, född i Stockholm, avliden 1692 begraven den 3 april. Hon dör på Sörby, de fick 14 barn tillsammans.
 
Mr. David Feiff
In my survey of Boos-families, I have fallen into Fellingsbro and found the following
in db Fellingsbro C: 2 (1690-1706) Figure 23 / page 43.
 
Mr. David Feiffs wife Madam Anna (Christina) Cleophas, born in Stockholm, who died in 1692 was buried on April 3. She dies on Sorby, they had 14 children together.  
 
Med vänlig hälsning/Berit

[Stefan Åhman]

Agneta Feif, begr 1644-08-27 i Tyska St Gertrud (AB), gifte sig 1641-10-24 i samma fs med handelsmannen Jacob Trotzig, d 1644-08-09 i St Nicolaus (AB). Om jag nu navigerat rätt så var denne en ledande person i Tobakskompaniet (The Swedish Settlements on the Delaware, 1638-1664 av Amandus Johnson; s 292 ff - finns på Google Books).
 
Barn är Jacob dp 1640-02-28, Anna dp 1642-07-28, Elisabeth dp 1644-05-17; alla f i Tyska St Gertrud (AB). Bland faddrarna återfinnes bl a Jacob Feif och hans hustru samt Hans Helleday's fru, dvs Elisabet Feif, en dotter till den nämnde Jacob, d 1658-03-16 i St Nicolaus (AB).
 
Det kan därför vara frestande att anta att Agneta och Elisabet båda är döttrar till Jacob i ett äktenskap före det med Catharina Olofsdotter, som ingicks 1625-02-27 i St Nicolaus (AB).
 
Vet någon besked angående Agneta Feif?

[Kersti Lithander]

Hej! Jag är också en ättling till Sophia Robertsdotter Feif och har en fråga till Karl-Gösta Lennartsson. Du skriver att:  It is for certain that Sofia was born Robertsdotter and raised in Stockholm. Finns det bevis för detta? Jag har letat och inte kunnat hitta henne.
Jag är ganska ny på detta med släktforskning och skulle vara så tacksam för info om henne.  
Vänliga hälsningar
Kersti Lithander

[Jesper Danielsson]

Blanda inte ihop Feif i Stockholm med Feif i Norge-Värmland. Det finns inga bevis för en Robert Feif i Stockholm. Sofia Robertsdotter Feif placeras endast med säkerhet i Värmland. Den enda samtida belagda Robert Feif bodde i Norge och kom från Dundee. Det finns inga bevis för att Stockholms Feif är besläktade med Sofia. Vi vet inte med säkerhet vem som var Sofias far eller mor.