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2004-04-06, 13:11
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Hej Hanne!
Hilmer var son till Carl Jacobsson Hård och hans hustru Olena Svensdotter. De var bosatta på torpet Giljan under Stora Ulseröd, Lyse (O).
Hilmer hade syskonen Emma f. 1862 och Augusta f.1864.
Hilmers farfar var soldaten Jacob Hård på Traneberg under Humlekärr, Lyse (O).
Glad Påsk!

2004-04-06, 15:40
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Hej Hanne, här kommer lite mer uppgifter om Hård
 
1. Hilmer Hård Carlsson född 1867-03-09 Lyse, Stora Ulseröd
 
far: Carl Jakobsson Hård född 1822-06-05 Lyse, Humlekärr, torpet Traneberg, död 1896-11-21 Lyse, Slätten
 
gift 1862-02-05 i Lyse
 
mor: Olena Svensdotter född 1829-03-16 Lyse, död 1908-08-13 i Lyse, Liden.
 
farfar: Jakob Hård Tomasson född 1791-12-09 Bro, död 1840-01-27 i Lyse, Humlekärr, torpet Traneberg, soldat
 
gift 1815-12-27 i Brastad
 
farmor: Christina Olsdotter född 1787-12-11, död 1839-09-13 i Lyse, Humlekärr, torpet Traneberg.
 
fff: Thomas Jakobsson
gift med
ffm: Elsa Hansdotter
 
Hanne, jag har en databas med ättlingar Hård och vill gärna att du kontaktar mig
 
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2004-04-06, 18:24
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Hanne Ludvigsen

Kjære Kerstin och Sture. Tusen takk for hjelpen. Og emailen Sture.Hvor kan jeg kontakte deg Kerstin? mvh Hanne

2004-04-06, 22:09
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Hej Hanne!
Hilma Adolfina var syster till min mans farfar Carl Oskar Teng född 12 augusti 1874 (död 1955). Han var stenhuggare och vaktmästare i Fågelvikens Folkets Hus. Det fanns ytterligare tre systrar som levde till vuxen ålder, Hulda Olivia 1867-1959, Selma Teresia 1871-1962 och Alma född 1882.
Hilma gifte sig med Hilmer 10 maj 1889. 15 oktober 1885 födde hon en oäkta son Hilding Servatius. Vi har kort på Oskar där han står omgiven av fyra äldre damer som vi tror är hans systrar. Har du något kort på Hilma så att vi kan jämföra?
Fadern hette Carl Anton Teng (1834-1884)och inte Tång som angivits i ett annat svar. Ibland har namnet även stavats Täng. Han var soldat på soldattorpet Bergås nr 106 under Tegen.

2004-04-06, 23:42
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Hanne Ludvigsen

Hei Ingegerd.Jeg har bare kort på dottern Selma. Men jeg skal til mina morforeldre i morgen.Min morfar vokste opp hos Hilma og Hilmer.Han var oekta barn.Det var et tidnings bild jeg har når slekten er samla når en av dem reiser til Amerika.Der er morfar liten. Kansje Hilma er med på det.Jeg kan fråga min mormor om jeg kan få låne kort så jeg kan sende deg.Jo Fågelvikens Folkets hus var det i Vermland. Min mann og jeg bodde i ørje noen år.Mvh Hanne

2004-04-06, 23:59
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Hanne Ludvigsen

Vet du hvem som er far til Hilding? Bodde han hos Hilma og Hilmer? Jeg har ikke hørt om han. Hadde vært gøy om vi kunne ha kontakt. Hanne

2004-04-07, 11:53
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Hanne, maila mig 052315630@telia.com
 
mvh Kerstin Jungebro

2004-04-07, 23:00
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Hej Hanne!
Fågelvikens Folkets hus ligger i Fågelviken på Härnäset i Bro, Bohuslän. Det ligger inte så långt från Lysekil. Jag har inte forskat efter Hildings far. Jag vet bara att Hilding flyttade till Bottna 1894, dvs samma år som Hilma födde Selma Teresia i Bottna. Fram till dess bodde han hos sin mormor Maja Lena Olausdotter. Hör gärna av dig! Min mailadress är ingegerdtheng@hotmail.com

2004-04-08, 17:31
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Härnäsets Folkets hus i Fågelviken är idag kulturminnesmärkt.
I Gull-Britt Grundéns skrift om stenhuggeriet på Härnäset så finns en bild på Oskar Teng med hustrun Augusta och dottern Stina när de står framför Folkets Hus. 
Min pappa körde sten med häst och vagn i Fågelviken, där både Oskar och sonen Folke jobbade då.

2004-04-13, 17:08
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Hvor får man tak i Gull-Britt Grundens skrift om stenhuggeriet på Hærnæset? Hanne

2004-04-13, 21:27
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Hanne
Jag vet inte men skall försöka ta reda på om den fortfarande finns att köpa.
Här är bilden med familjen Teng, den är lite skarpare i häftet men håll till godo.

2004-04-14, 20:20
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Hej Hanne och Jan-Erik!
Vi köpte Gull-Britt Grundéns skrift i bokhandeln i Lysekil för ett par år sedan. 
Adressen enligt Gula Sidorna:
Bokia Lysekil - Tel. 0523-103 20 
Kungsg. 49 A, Box 188, 45324 LYSEKIL
Ingegerd

2004-05-24, 05:23
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I am trying to track my great grandfather who emigrated to Australia in approx. 1856 on the Sir Robert Peel.  On his death certificate it has listed his place of birth as Lysekil, Sweden and his parents names were Julius Sales & Justina Lang.  I believe he was born in 1835.  I suspect he has changed his name upon arriving in Australia as I don't think Sales is a Swedish name.  Any suggestions of where I might be able to get help finding births in Lysekil.
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Bev Mulcahy (Australia)

2004-05-24, 07:20
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2004-05-24, 09:11
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Sorry I meant to put that in.  On his marriage & death certificate he lists his name as James Sales.Through a previous discussion I've had with someone on this site they suggested rather than trying to guess the surname look for births in 1835 in Lysekil for his parents.  I think he's changed his surname
Thank you
Bev Mulcahy

2004-05-24, 17:56
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Anders Andersson

Bev, I'm that someone who sent you here. As I mentioned in the other thread, Lang is a surname that has been used in this part of Sweden (there are a number of individuals named Lang in the DISBYT database). Thus the data you have provided at least look plausible.
 
As you say, Sales is not a Swedish name (it's found in the DISBYT database, but for a couple of people in Spain only). Therefore I wonder: Do you actually have the full name of James' father, Julius Sales, in writing on that death certificate? Is the father mentioned on the marriage certificate as well? Was James married in Australia? If so, Sales appears to have been Julius' original name, or he must have been accidentally renamed in the records by or after his son James in Australia.
 
I hope someone with easy access to Lysekil records may be able to find a birth record for James, regardless of surname (perhaps even his first name was changed; James isn't exactly a Swedish name either). The first names of his parents (Julius and Justina) may also be helpful.
 
You may already know that Lysekil is a town on the west coast of Sweden, north of the city of Gothenburg (Göteborg).

2004-05-25, 07:04
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All the information I have is as follows - On his marriage cert. it has his name as simply James Sales (no mother or father details are listed). Yes he was married here in Australia.  On his death cert. it says simply James Sales. Father's name Julius Sales (Mariner) and Justina Lang.  Place of birth Lysekil, Sweden.  Been in AUstralia approx 53 years (died in 1908). I really wish I had more information but I don't I'm afraid.
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Bev Mulcahy

2004-05-31, 08:18
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Can somebody please help me with births in Lysekil.  I'm trying to find a link somewhere to my great grandfather.  I believe he was born in 1835/36.  He changed his name on arriving in Australia and unfortunately I don't know his original Swedish name.  Is it possible to look for a male birth in Lysekil in 1835/36 with the parents names of Julius & Justina.  His name in Australia was James Sales and on his death certificate his parents are listed as Julius Sales & Justina Lang.

2004-05-31, 17:57
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Bev, I can't find any child with parents Julius and Justina in Lysekil in the year between 1830-1840.

2004-06-01, 03:32
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Too bad they couldn't be found in Lysekil. However, I think Bev's data look detailed enough not to give up on this quite yet. Bev, do you think James emigrated alone to Australia, while his parents stayed behind in Sweden? Since you have different last names for the parents (Sales and Lang), I get the impression that they never came to Australia. If they did, wouldn't James' mother have taken her husband's last name, instead of her maiden name?
 
As I said before, the name Lang is known in this part of Sweden, but it's not too common. Maybe the family just lived in Lysekil for some time, even if James wasn't actually born there.

2004-06-01, 05:56
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Thanks so much for looking anyway.  I really don't know about his parents however I'm inclined to agree with you, and that is that he came by himself.  He was 20 years old at the time.  On his naturalisation certificate it says he arrived by the Sir Robert Peel from Gotteburg in 1856.
I really don't know what else to look for!! What about the household examination records for Lysekil in 1835/36, could that be an option?

2004-06-01, 21:56
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This is really a long shot, but I searched for the name Lang in Lysekil in the census of 1890 and I found a man with the name Martin Lang born 1832 in Dragsmark parish. He was a former sailor. It might be a brother to James.
Persons in the household
 
Martin Lang f. 1832, f.d. sjöman
Anna Britta Mårtensd:r f. 1831 his wife
Carl Johan f. 1861, Sjöman Husegare, their son
Gustaf Victor f. 1864, vid badhuset,  their son
Fam nr: 2
Josefina Rosalia Andersson f. 1879 granddaughter
(both Carl Johan and Gustaf Victor were unmarried. Josefina was a daughter of a daughter that didnt lived in the house.)

2004-06-01, 23:31
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Anders Andersson

According to the DISBYT database, the parents of Martin Johansson Lang (born 1832 in Dragsmark) were Johan Jakob Lang and Kristina Olsdotter. The names thus don't match Bev's data, and I doubt it's the correct family. Martin had a brother born in 1830 and three sisters born in 1838, 1840 and 1842 respectively, so it's quite possible there was yet another sibling born between 1832 and 1838, but it probably wouldn't be James anyway.
 
The name Lang is however used for several generations, and it may very well be that Justina Lang belongs to another branch of the same family.

2004-06-02, 08:57
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Yesterday I did some look ups in the church books in Dragsmark.  Johan Jacob Lang, mentioned above, had also a son Julius born 1835. He went to sea about 1855, but he came back about 1865 and died about 1871. (I'm not sure about the years, because I'm at work now and my notice is at home).
 
You can do a search in http://www.slaktdata.org/  (there is an English version). The Lang families (I think there are three families) in Dragsmark you can find there.

2004-06-02, 11:26
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Thanks so much for what you've done so far.  I have subscribed to genline.com.se and today I have gone through some 'household examination' files-I think they were 1890.  I was simply looking for a Julius & Justina and not taking note of the surname.  Do you have access to those databases, as I did find an Adolf Julius & Emma Justina in there but couldn't read the rest of it.  I couldn't seem to cut and paste the page to put on this site for translation.  Any help would be appreciated
Bev Mulcahy

2004-06-02, 13:43
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Anders Andersson

Note that the English name James corresponds to Jakob (sometimes spelled Jacob) in Sweden. Bev is looking for James, born around 1835 with a father named Julius and a mother with a maiden name of Lang. Ann-Britt instead finds Julius, born in 1835 as son of Jacob Lang. Problem is, James emigrates to Australia, while Julius Lang returns and dies in Sweden. All the right names, but the relationships don't add up; it's highly confusing!
 
Bev, could it be that some of your data is wrong because it has been incorrectly entered into your source (the death certificate) in the first place? You said James died in 1908. Do you have access to the original certificate, or to a transcript/photocopy? Who wrote it, and where? Who may have supplied the information? Was James married at the time of his death? This is all speculative on my part, and you may not be able to answer these questions, but I think they are important.
 
I wonder if Julius Lang who went to sea in 1855 had any children, and if finding them may help solve this riddle. We could use the assistance of someone familiar with maritime records, such as when the ship Sir Robert Peel departed from Swedish ports, and who were among the crew. Sure there must be tons of such records in Gothenburg archives?

2004-06-02, 14:21
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Anders Andersson

According to the Släktdata index, Julius Lang died on May 27, 1871 in Dragsmark parish (no more specific location given). He is listed as landsbrukare (farmer). I can't tell from the index whether he was married, but he was 35 years old.
 
What if Julius Lang had one or more children out of wedlock? In those days, extramarital children had no right of inheritance, and thus I doubt they would be mentioned in the estate inventory. However, if there is an estate inventory after Julius Lang, it may be worth checking out anyway.
 
I admit that it's easy for me to offer suggestions for research when I don't have the time or resources to engage in that research myself; I'm just trying to share whatever comes to my mind hoping others may find it useful. As if living 400 km away from Gothenburg didn't make it difficult enough for me, I recently lost my e-mail address too (I'll switch to a new ISP soon)...

2004-06-02, 14:56
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Anders Andersson

I have further questions about James Sales, but since they don't pertain specifically to Lysekil or even to Bohuslän, I have placed them in your original discussion where I suggest that we continue analyzing the various leads.

2004-10-18, 17:22
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Kerstn Jungebro

Sökes:
Famlj och ättlingar till hamnkapten och brandchef i Lysekil AXEL Helge Olsson född 1904 02 20 i Lysekil, död 1959 i Lysekil.

2004-12-10, 11:37
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Cathrine Magne

31 mai 1865 forliser skipet Ocean ved Sørbonden, Lysekil. Min forfar og flere av hans besetning blir funnet omkommet, og de blir begravet ved grensen. Er det noen som kan hjelpe med å finne begravelsesinnføringen for:
 
Skipskaptein Christian Christensen Jansen f. 11 okt 1816, Drøbak, Norge. Død 31 mai 1865.
 
På forhånd takk for all hjelp/tips.
 
Mvh, Cathrine Magne

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