Help with 1717 tax record for Kånna parish

[Victoria Cihla]

Hi,

Attached is a copy of a 1717 tax record.  Can anyone tell me what the note (circled) for dräng Erik says? 

Thanks for your help with this,

Vicki

[Yvonne Stenberg]

Hi Vicki, it is sochneskom. (short for sockenskomakare) which means parish shoemaker.
/Yvonne

[Victoria Cihla]

Hi again Yvonne!

Thank you!  I'm again looking into Erik Persson to see if I can find a connection to the solider Erik Törnqvist (no patronymic name is given on the Central Soldatregistrat or the GMR records).  So far, no record showing the name Erik Persson Törnqvist.  However, I have found the following records:

1750 tax record lists my ancestor Erik Persson and wife with daughter Ingebor at Kånna Arvidsgarden in Kånna parish:
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v840181c?image=2460&page=477
Mantalslängder 1642-1820 Kronobergs län 1642-1820 (G) 57 (1750) Image 2460 / Page 479 (AID: v840181c.b2460.s479, NAD: SE/RA/5520306)

1750-04-29 birth record for Margareta Jönsdotter lists Erik Törnqvist from Kånna Arvidsgarden as a baptismal witness:
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30538?image=10&page=11&register_collection=11&register_post_aid=r11.p122176712
Kånna (G) C:1 (1743-1815) Image 10 / Page 11 (AID: v30538.b10.s11, NAD: SE/VALA/00202)

1755 tax record lists my ancestor Erik Persson and wife with daughter Ingebor and son Jöran at Kånna Arvidsgården:
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v840186?image=3400&page=667
Mantalslängder 1642-1820 Kronobergs län 1642-1820 (G) 62 (1755) Image 3400 / Page 669 (AID: v840186.b3400.s669, NAD: SE/RA/5520306)

1755-11-11 birth record for Anders (son of a soldier) lists Erik Törnqvist as a baptismal witness:
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30538?image=16&page=23&register_collection=11&register_post_aid=r11.p122176791
Kånna (G) C:1 (1743-1815) Image 16 / Page 23 (AID: v30538.b16.s23, NAD: SE/VALA/00202)

The Eriks listed on the 1750 tax/1750 birth record and the Eriks listed on the 1755 tax/1755 birth record (all who are living at Kånna Arvidsgården) would indicate that they are the same person.  Would you agree that, barring the absolute proof of the full name, this is enough to make that assumption?  I have other findings earlier that help support this, but this specifically ties both Eriks to the same place in the same years. 

I'd appreciate any comments on this.

Thanks very much,

Vicki

[Yvonne Stenberg]

It looks like it could be the same person, although I cannot find any definite documentation on that, only indications as you say. The only thing that I can see is that the birth year for Eric Törnqvist is set at 1698 in the Centrala Soldatregistret note, which would be the same year of birth calculated for Eric Persson who died in 1778 80 years old. There might be some more information if there are f ex estate inventories for the children who for some reason mention the name Törnqvist but that would be a long shot.
/Yvonne

[Victoria Cihla]

Thanks, Yvonne,

You are correct about the birth years for the two people. I have already done extensive research on this Erik Persson.  The 1757-04-22 death record for his wife lists her as "Erik Persson's wife Karin Månsdotter."  The date of her death coincides with what the Kånna Arvidsgården tax records show.  Erik's wife was old and sick in the 2 years prior to her death and then in 1758 Erik Persson is listed there as a widower.

1757 death record for Karen Månsdotter, Kånna Arvidsgården
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30538?image=85
Kånna (G) C:1 (1743-1815) Image 85 / Page 161 (AID: v30538.b85.s161, NAD: SE/VALA/00202)

1756 tax record for Erik Persson - wife not taxed she is old and sick
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v840187?image=3510&page=687
Mantalslängder 1642-1820 Kronobergs län 1642-1820 (G) 63 (1756) Image 3510 / Page 689 (AID: v840187.b3510.s689, NAD: SE/RA/5520306)

1757 tax record for Erik Persson - wife not taxed, she is sick
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v840188?image=3480&page=673
Mantalslängder 1642-1820 Kronobergs län 1642-1820 (G) 64 (1757) Image 3480 / Page 675 (AID: v840188.b3480.s675, NAD: SE/RA/5520306)

1758 tax record for Widower Erik Prsson, Kånna Arvidsgården
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v840189a?image=3600&page=705
Mantalslängder 1642-1820 Kronobergs län 1642-1820 (G) 65 (1758) Image 3600 / Page 705 (AID: v840189a.b3600.s705, NAD: SE/RA/5520306)

Wife, Karin Månsdotter, Arvidsgården, is listed a baptismal witness for a Kirstin in 1743-08-05
https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30538?image=6
Kånna (G) C:1 (1743-1815) Image 6 / Page 3 (AID: v30538.b6.s3, NAD: SE/VALA/00202)

All of these things seem to indicate that Erik Persson and Erik Törnqvist are the same person; the tax records/birth records for both 1750 and 1755, show Erik with different last names for same years and living in the same place.  This seems to be the most conclusive evidence (yet circumstantial, I realize) that I've found so far - mainly because these records relate specifically to Erik himself.

I am very interested whether you concur and also am curious how you document ancestors for which you never can find "absolute" proof but for which there is so much circumstantial evidence. I would like to preserve this information in order to help a future researcher go further as more information become available through court records or other documents that are beyond my skill level. 

Thanks for your help,

Vicki

[Yvonne Stenberg]

Well I agree that it seems likely it could be the same Eric, but I would not write down the Törnqvist information in full in my family registry program. In this case I would make a short summary in Eric Persson's post as an extra note in a text field, with clear reference to a separate document. I would then write down full details in a separate document about the life and works of Eric Törnqvist that are available so far. As you say there might be more information coming up about him in court books or other documents that are being digitalized.
Hope I was not too unclear in the above description so that you can understand what I mean by this.
/Yvonne

[Victoria Cihla]

Thank you, Yvonne!

I've really struggled with how to document this because I am sure that there will be some information later that will either prove or disprove my theory.  Just not sure how to accomplish that.     It may be someone else down the road who may want to further the research once more information is available.

Thanks so much!  I really do appreciate this and all the helpful information you've provided!

Vicki