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« skrivet: 2021-02-17, 18:35 »
Thank you so much.
Erik
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« skrivet: 2021-02-16, 01:07 »
Hello,
Is there anyone who might be able to tell me what is written in the following image.
Thank you so much.
Erik Aasland
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« skrivet: 2021-02-13, 04:32 »
This was really difficult. The only thing I can add is that they probably also are found in Göteborgs Karl Johan (O) AI:3 (1835-1836) Bild 39 / sid 73 (AID: v35079.b39.s73, NAD: SE/GLA/13186). Although some data are different it must be the same persons. But I don't find anything about them in Domkyrkoförsamlingen, and not even Carl Mauritz born 1837, which should be in Karl Johan, as they lived there at that time.
Hi Leif, I think I found the Bernhard Julius that you referenced above (please see the image). Is there is a chance that you might be able to read what is written to the left of his name and tell me what it says? All I can make out is that he was born on May 17, 1835 and baptised on May 18, 1835. I might even have these dates wrong as it seems to that baptising a baby the day after he is born is very quick!? Thank you so much. Erik
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« skrivet: 2021-02-11, 15:12 »
Hei Leif,
Thanks so much for your response, very much appreciated! Yes, it's been very difficult to find out more about this family. I was really hoping to find out the name of the children's father, which I think is Magnus. I'd like to one day be able to find the children's descendants. I think the "Bernt Julius" there is my second great-grandfather, but without additional information I cannot know for sure.
Thank you again for taking the time to look for them!
Erik
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« skrivet: 2021-02-10, 23:22 »
Hello,
I was wondering if someone might be able to help me find more information on a woman and her family. I am looking to find out more about a widowed woman name Britha Olsson. She was born about 1799 and had at least three children. The only information I have comes from Domkyrkoförsamlingen in Göteborg (please see the attached pictures). It shows Britha Olsson (b 1799) and the following children:
1. Bernt Julius (b 1835)
2. Carl Mauritz (b 1837)
3. Maria (b 1822)
If it isn't too difficult, I was wondering if there is a chance that someone might be able to find out where exactly these three children were born and who their father was and when Britha married him.Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
Erik Aasland
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« skrivet: 2016-02-17, 00:46 »
Hello, I am trying to find out more about a man named Bernt Julius Magnusson who is my great-great-grandfather. While I'm not certain, I think he came from Gothenburg, Sweden, born sometime around 1830. At some point, perhaps in the late 1850s or early 1860s, he made his way to Austre Bokn in Rogaland, Norway, where he met my great-grandmother, Anna Knudsdatter Kjelsvik (1819-1907), who was married at the time to Søren Kristoffersen Eide (1823-?). Bernt was supposedly a 'sailor' which would of course help to explain how he ended up in Norway. It turns out that Bernt Julius Magnusson and Anna Knudsdatter had a relationship and she become pregnant with my great-grandfather, Karl Andreas Berntsen (b. June 25, 1861 in Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway). He was baptised on July 14, 1861 in St Petri Church in Stavanger. Before Anna's marriage to Søren Kristoffersen Eide (on October 25, 1845, in Skudenes Parish, Rogland, Norway), she came from Søra Vaage on Austre Bokn, which is where she, with her son Karl Andreas Berntsen, ended up after her marriage to Søren ended. Please see this link which shows that he comes from Gothenburg: http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=1117&kenr=009&bnr= 0019&lnr=00 Please see this link to DIS-Norge showing my previous research about him: http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=99232 I know a bit about Bernt Julius's time in Norway, but I am trying now to find out more about his life in Sweden, such as when he was born exactly and the names of his parents. Thank you kindly for any help or suggestions. Erik Aasland Ottawa, Canada
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« skrivet: 2014-02-23, 18:41 »
Hi Mats, thanks very much for this, good catch! It must be a maze sifting through those church book records and the handwriting, while beautiful, can be very tricky I imagine! I'd love to go back as far as I can on Gustaf Johnsson's side of the family if possible, but I wouldn't want you and Inga to spend too much time on this as I should think that it's a great deal of work. I am very thankful as I don't think I'd be able to make my way through the Swedish church book records that easily.
I found the birth record of Tilda and Per's daughter, Hildur (b. Feb. 28, 1907). Her birth registered in the Province of Ontario, born in Fort William on the said date, but her name is listed as Hilda Gundborg Johnson, with the parents as Peter Johnson and Matilda Gustafson. Obviously the Swedish names were anglicised to be more 'english' sounding, not very uncommon in those days.
So thank you again for your help, it is really appreciated, and for finding that interesting titbit on Gustaf's birth date.
Erik
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« skrivet: 2014-02-22, 20:10 »
Hi Maud, thanks for this. Actually, your English is just fine, very good, it was more me being surprised that there is a place called Lincoping (probably after Linköping in Sweden) in Canada, but I haven't heard of it. However, close to Fort William, where Axel settled, was a very large Swedish and Finnish settlement, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is or was a Linköping, but Anglicised to Lincoping. There is for example the Town of Uppsala close by. I'll have to doible-check.
Thank you so much again for your help!
Erik
(Meddelandet ändrat av eaasland 2014-02-23 00:27)
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« skrivet: 2014-02-22, 15:58 »
Hi Maud,
Thank you so much, this is super, what great information to get! I was quite surprised to learn that he had nine siblings, but also understand that people had much bigger families back in those days. I'm hoping over time to be able to find a descendant, but first I have to get my head around all this information! The link to the railways is an interesting one as Axel eventually became a section foreman for the Canadian National Railway and its line in Northwestern Ontario. Did I understand you correctly (under child no. 6) that Tilda and Per were living in Canada for a while and had a child named Hildur (b. Feb. 28, 1907) here. Later they all moved to the United States in 1914, is that correct? Between Per and Tilda's family and Emil Gotthard's family (if he had family), there might be other 'Gustafssons' in North America then. That would be really interesting, I'll have to find their arrivals, either in Canada or the United States.
Thank you too for the additional information about their lives, this is just great. I'll have to check, but 'torpare' could be close (maybe not quite the same as though) to a 'tenant' famer. I think you're right though, I don't believe that Canada has a history of tenant farmers or farming.
Again, I am really grateful for your help Maud, very much appreciated. I would have probably spent months trying to find this information!
Best wishes.
Erik
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« skrivet: 2014-02-22, 01:37 »
Hi Mats,
Thanks so very much, I really appreciate what you've found. I didn't realise that he had so many siblings, that's great to see as I'd like eventually to track down of some of the descendants. I take it then that Kjellstorp is a village and not a farm, thank you. Just a question about his middle name. We didn't know that he had a middle name, Wilhelm, so that was interesting to learn.
Thank you so much again for your help, I really appreciate it. If you manage to come across anything else about this family, I'd love to hear from you.
Best wishes,
Erik
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« skrivet: 2014-02-21, 22:26 »
Hello,
I was hoping that someone might be able to help me find out a bit more about the family of a Swede who immigrated to Canada in 1912. The fellow is Axel Gustafsson, born on November 21, 1881 in Lousholt, Kristianstad, Skåne, Sweden. His parents were Gustaf Johnsson and Pernilla Karlsdatter. Their son, Axel, landed in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada on April 13, 1912. He eventually married and had a family here in Canada. However, we are now trying to find out if Axel had any siblings and if it is possible to trace the family farther back in time.
Any help that anyone could offer would be very much appreciated.
Thank you so much.
Erik Aasland
Ottawa, Canada
erik4@sympatico.ca
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« skrivet: 2011-08-22, 21:45 »
Hi Chris, Thanks for confirming that the record says that he died on board the ship, much appeciated! Actually, the death date that I found (as a result of the tree I found on Ancestry) should have read 1832. If I'm not mistaken, this is the source. http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=1117&kenr=009&bnr= 0019&lnr=00 It would appear that in 1875 he's a lodger and working for the railway, but just as important is that it shows that he was born in 1832 in Gothenburg, Sweden. Perhaps this is indeed the same person as Bernt Julius Magnusson? Thank you. Erik
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« skrivet: 2011-08-21, 17:34 »
Hi Chris,
Thank you so much for the additional information, I really appreciate it and I completely agree with you, something strange is going on here! I have spent part of the last day mapping out all of Bernt (Julius) Magnusson's possible children between 1861 and 1873, which I did on my Ancestry tree (actually I created a new tree just for him to make things simpler for me to follow). I managed to find one person who has a tree in place for Bernt's daugther Ane Gurine. While this person didn't have much information in his tree for Bernt Magnusson, it shows that he (his Bernt Magnusson that is) was born in 1833 in Gothenburg. So, that's a possibility worth looking into. Also, I did find the following record on a Bernt Magnusson on Ancestry:
Name: Bernt Magnusson
Birth Year: 1828
Place of Origin: Onsala, Halland Län, Sverige
Birth Location: Onsala Halland Län, Sverige (Sweden)
Record Date: 28 jun 1854
Port of Departure: Havanna Cuba
Database Name: EmiSjö
Occupation/Title: Lättmatros
Archive Call Number: GÖTEBORG D1C:62 1854:00155
Ship Name: Hindoo
Ship Type: Brigg
Additional Information: Död
While this is definitely a Swedish sailor and the period seems correct, I was saddened to read under Additional Information the word 'Död', which I'm sure means Dead. So, I don't know with certaintly if this records means that this Bernt Magnusson died in 1854; however I have a sneaking suspision that that is indeed what it means. Anyhow, another lead, which is more than I have before!
Thank you for your continued help, as finding this fellow is like finding needle in a haystack, but you have given me much more to look into and to investigate, thank you so much!
I'll keep at it.
Best regards,
Erik
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« skrivet: 2011-08-20, 14:44 »
Hi Chris,
Thank you so much for taking the time to do some searching for Bernt Julius Magnusson, I am without a doubt very grateful. Let me confirm a couple of things that you've discovered. You are correct, in the 1865 Norwegian census Anna does indeed have another son, Julius Magnusson, born sometime in 1862. So it would seem that Anna had my great-grandfather, Karl Andreas in 1861 and Julius in 1862. Julius has always been a mystery as I've never been able to find him in the 1875 Norwegian Census nor have I been able to find a death record for him in the event he died young. He in fact was the next mystery that I wanted to try to solve as he is of course either my great-grandfather full brother or half brother. You are absolutely correct too about Anna. Anna was a married woman when she became pregnant with Karl Andreas. She was married to a man named Søren Kristoffersen Eide who was born in 1823 on Eide Farm in Bømlo, Hordaland, Norway. Anna and Søren married in 1845 and had four daugthers: Ane Martha who was born out of wedlock (1844-?), Ingeborg Kristine (1847-1878), Serina (1849-1851) and Anna Serina (1852-1926). These four women I have managed to find a good deal of information on and their lives seem pretty straightforward.
I suppose the real mystery is twofold. Supposedly Søren Kristoffersen abandoned Anna and ran off to maybe the United States. However, did he run off because she became pregnant with Bernt Julius Magnusson's child or had Søren already run off in the years before she met Bernt Julius. I'm not sure if this will ever be known. So at sometime in 1860 she met Bernt Julius Magnusson and had his child in 1861, perhaps as you suggest, another with him, Magnus, in 1862. At least with Karl Andreas his baptism appears in the church book records, while sadly Magnus's baptism I have not been able to find. Perhaps she left Stavanger to give birth to Magnus in another city or town. Either way, she does end back up on the Vaage Farm on Austre Bokn in time for the 1865 Norwegian census, and as far as I can tell, never again leaves the island, dying there in 1907.
To be honest, I never thought of or contemplated that Bernt Julius Magnusson could have been living in Stavanger or a surrounding town or village, as I just assumed because he was a sailor and because he disappeared by the time of the 1865 Norwegian census that he must have sailed away, perhaps even back to Sweden. I see now, based on the interesting information that you've found, that he might well have been living in the Stavanger, having fathered Elen Sofie Magnusson in 1870 and Knud Magnusson in 1873. And, as you also mention, he might well have fathered Ane Gurine who was born in Egersund in 1862. If this is indeed the same fellow he was certainly busy! Let me see if I have this straight, if this is the same man, these could be his children:
Karl Andreas (b. 1861)
Julius (b. 1862)
Ane Gurine (b. 1862)
Elen Sofie (b. 1870)
Knut (b 1873)
This suddenly makes things a bit more complicated, but might also allow me to search for descendants of these other children who might well know that story of Bernt Julius Magnusson!
Thank you again Chris for your help, it's been great. Although I'm not quite sure where to start I know have a lot more information to go on and more hopeful than ever that I can track down Bernt especially now that I have an approximate birth date for him of about 1830. So this is quite possible in terms of his relationship with Anna Knudsdatter Kjelsvik who was about 10 years his senior, but I think in those days (even today) that wasn't uncommon for a difference in age between a lot of men and women.
Thank you again so much, this is great!
Best wishes,
Erik
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« skrivet: 2011-08-19, 15:09 »
I am searching for information on a man named Bernt Julius Magnusson. Sadly, I know very little about him, other than the fact that he is my great-grandfather. At some point in the first half of the year 1860, Bernt Julius Magnusson, a Swedish sailor, had a relationship with my great-grandmother, Anna Knudsdatter. Anna was born on May 24, 1819 on the Kjelsvik Farm located in the Municipality of Jelsa, Rogland County, Norway. At the time of her relationship with Bernt Julius Magnusson she was living on the Vaage (Søra) Farm located on the island of Austre Bokn, off the coast of Western Norway, near Stavanger. At some point during their relationship, Anna became pregnant with my grandfather, Karl Andreas Berntsen Vaage. Upon becoming pregnant, Anna left the Vaage Farm and travelled to Stavanger, which is where Karl Andreas was born on June 25, 1861. According to the Stavanger St Petri church book record of Karl's baptism, Karl Andreas's father was Bernt Julius Magnusson (a sailor) from Sweden. By 1865, according to the Norwegian Census of the same year, Anna was living back on the Vaage Farm with Karl Andreas, but Bernt Julius Magnusson was not.
It's very likely that Bernt, being a sailor, left Norway not even knowing that Anna was pregnant. Anna died on the Vaage Farm on November 29, 1907. Unfortunately, this is all my family knows of Karl's father, just that he came from Sweden. Although sceptial, my hope is that one of the members on Anbytarforum might know of records for Swedish sailors who travelled to Norway between 1855 and 1865, give or take a few years.
Any possible help would be so much appreciated!
Thank you and sincerely,
Erik Aasland
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