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Författare Ämne: Olof Evald Olson Linné  (läst 1686 gånger)

2011-08-27, 02:22
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I am trying t find any information on my grandather who migrated form Malmo in 1906. married to Elin Borg, sons; Louis Elvad, E. H. Gordon, daughte Margaretha Eleanora. He was born Oct 1879. Thanks

2011-08-27, 06:15
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From the emigrant register Emigranten Populär 2006, based on the records made by the harbour police (far from complete):
Surname:     LINNÉ
First names: ELIN
Age:  22     Sex: F
Born:        1883/1884
Parish: MALMÖ County: M [Malmöhus]
Title/Note:    
Port of departure: MALMÖ
Day of departure:  12 Feb 1906
Destination:       CHICAGO
Co-travellers:     YES
Source code:       1906:105:50358
 
Same source code (i.e. travelling on the same ticket):
Surname:     LINNÉ
First names: MARGARETHA A E
Age:  4      Sex: F
Born:        1901/1902
 
Surname:     LINNÉ
First names: EVALD LOUIS E
Age:  2      Sex: M
Born:        1903/1904
 
Surname:     LINNÉ
First names: ELVIN HAL G
Age:  1      Sex: M
Born:        1904/1905
 
No trace of the father; it wasn't unusual for the father to travel ahead.
 
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2011-08-27, 07:56
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Hi Jan!
In census 1900 he is found in Malmö Sankt Pauli parish, qv Boken:
 
son, unmarried man, Olof Edvard Olsson Linné, born 1879, Borgeby
shoemaker
 
in the same family:
 
mother, widow, Hanna Olsson b 1854 Kävlinge
d, unmarried, Maria b 1876 Borgeby
s. unmarried, Carl Alfred b 1885 Borgeby
d. unmarried, Anna b 1887 Malmö Sankt Pauli
s. unmarried, Ernst Gottfrid b 1891 Malmö Sankt Pauli
Regards Harriet
 
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2011-08-27, 08:16
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Hi Jan!
In census 1890 he is found at the same address: qv Boken, Malmö S:t Pauli:
 
son, Olof Edvard b. 1879 Borgeby
 
lives with his family:
father, Lars Olsson b 1855, Keflinge, kusk (=driver)
mother, Hanna Olsson b 1854, Keflinge
d. Maria b 1876 Borgeby
s. Carl Alfred b 1885 Borgeby
d. Johanna b 1881 Borgeby
d, Anna b 1887 Malmö Pauli
d. Emma b 1889 Malmö Pauli
 
The modern spelling of Keflinge is Kävlinge
 
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Harriet
 
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2011-08-27, 08:30
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Hi Jan!
 
In census 1880 he lives at Borgeby in Borgeby Parish
 
s. Olof Edvard b 1879 Borgeby
 
with his family:
 
f. Lars Olsson b 1855 Kävlinge, statardräng (farm hand)
m. Hanna Olsdotter b 1854 Kävlinge
d Maria 1876 Kävlinge
 
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Harriet

2011-08-27, 09:18
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Jan
I mailed You a picture on Olof\s emigration
(couldnt include it here)
 
Arne

2011-08-27, 14:51
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Thanks so much for all the info.  I will keep looking back to see if anything else is found. I appreciate the quick responses.
Jan

2011-08-27, 16:28
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Jan!  
At the birth of Olof Edvard, Oct 3, 1879 Borgeby he is reported to be child no 3 and the parents have been married for two years.  
( SCB -utdrag / report to the Statistical Central Bureau)
 
In Kävlinge hfl AI /12 (1874-1880) p56 and p57
both parents are noted, but still unmarried ( a  promise to marry is noted),  
the sister Maria b April 4, 1876 is noted with the mother and  
m. Hanna Olsdotter Sep 17, 1854 is a maid (piga),  
f. Lars Olsson b Nov 5, 1855, farmhand
They move to Borgeby Oct 29, 1877
Harriet
 
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2011-09-08, 19:50
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Thanks for the additional info.  I have one persisting question. On the birth record of one of olof and his wife Elin, his name is listed as Olof Edvard Olsson Linne'.  He also has on his death certificate listed as father Alfred Linne' and mother Hanna Olsson. Where does the Linne' come from? Was he the third child of Hanna, but not Lars? I have been looking for answers for almost 20 years and have nothing that connects the name.  Also his cousin is listed as Johan Borg, yet his wife is Elin Borg. My mother, who is deceased also spoke of a John Olsson as some company president in Stockhom, and another uncle who was a race driver.  The more I dig, the more confused I become.  ANY light you could shed on this puzzle would be GREATLY appreciated.
Jan

2011-09-08, 22:01
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Jan!  
Correct. his name (that is he called himself) was Olof Edvard Olsson Linné. (Census 1900, see Aug 27, 07:56 above).
At that time (before 1901) it was very easy to add a name. It was often done when moving into a city or town or when becoming a professional - or just because you wanted another name you liked.
When died Lars, his father? He might have added Linné after 1890 when he still not use it in census 1890.
It is very common to find new names without any specific explanation - there might be a note in a houshold exam list  wants to be called.... .  
Harriet

2011-09-09, 14:51
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Any ideas about the fathers name on the death certificate; Alfred Linne'?

2011-09-09, 22:44
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Jan!
First, the father in Sweden. Lars Olsson, kusk, born Nov 5, 1855 dies October 10, 1896 in Malmö St Pauli due to suicide, hanging, according to the police investigation (SCB, döda 1896, Malmö St Pauli).
There is nothing noted about any family name; thus we can rule out son and father both calling themselves Linné.
 
Searching the 1880 and 1890 censuses for entire Sweden reveals one and only one man with the two names Alfred and Linné - the same man both 1880 and 1890: the shoemaker Samuel Alfred Linné living in Ljungby (G = Kronoberg county). I also note that there are young men training to become shoemakers (skomakarelärling) in his household both 1880, 1890 and in the household exam list 1892-1898 (Ljungby AI/16, fol 23), which support that Olof Edvard may have had this man as a tutor or employer for some period. However I have not yet found Olof Edvard registrered as living in Ljungby. I believe these lärlingar could stay for longer or shorter periods and not always being registred as living in the parish.
 
Could we possibly think that he as a full trained shoemaker added Linné as a family name in memory of an admired teacher  (my personal hypothesis..)
 
And later on someone filling in the death certificate and unfamiliar with Swedish naming tradition have mixed names up - assuming that the father should have the same family name as the son (and Olsson wrongly interpreted as originating from his mother). Could the name of a former employer have been noted on for example emigration documents?
 
Another, less exciting explanation might be that his brother Carl Alfred also used the family name Linné and by some misunderstanding was noted as father.
 
You have not mentioned which year he died - had many decades elapsed since he left Sweden and his true father (yes, the church books are convincing and he used Olsson all his life)had died?
Harriet
 
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2011-09-10, 00:17
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Your logic makes alot of sense to me.  Olof went by Linne' the entire time he was in the USA. And before it was on the Arbetsbetyg that a cousin found in Elin, Olof's wifes belongings.  Olof died in 1956, Elin in 1977.  Even though I was only a 100 or so miles from them, I never met them due to some falling out my grandmother had with them.  Petty. Elin was born 21 June 1883. Her faher is listed as Göns Borg and her mother Josephine Andersdotter. But with the naming patterns I am at a loss.  It seems that my mother, uncle, and aunt, believed they were related to Carl Von Linne' the scientist. So much that they were taken in Chicago, IL to see a monument of him. Apparently all of that was fabrication.  Unless there is some connection to Elin.  So much for oral history .
Your help and rapid responses have been a wondeful help and very much appreciated.
Thank you so very much. Jan

2011-09-10, 06:39
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The marriage:
 
Marriage number: 18
Banns: 17 Feb, 24 Feb, 3 mar 1901
Groom: Olof Edvard Olsson Linné, journeyman shoemaker, address: St. Pauli parish, born 1879-10-03.
Bride: Elin Borg, address: Äpplet X, born 1883-01-21, page 240 in HFL.
Marriage date: 4 Apr 1901, 1st marriage for both.
 
GID 1313.402.59700, [Malmöhus] Malmö Sankt Petri, E.8, Banns,Marriages, 1895-1904, page 116, Image 124.  
-------------------------------
 
Elin in 1900:
 
Borg, Elin
Sömmerska [seamstress]
b. 1883 in Göteborgs Masthugg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
Girl
 
Äpplet
Malmö Sankt Petri (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
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And in 1890:
 
Johansson Borg, Jöns
Cementarb. [cement worker]
f. 1850 i Västra Broby (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Gift man, far i familjen [married man, father]
 
Andersson, Benedikta
f. 1841 i Onsala (Hallands län, Halland)
h. [wife]
Gift kvinna, mor i familjen [married woman, mother]
 
Gerda Emilia
f. 1874 i Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
d.
Ogift kvinna, barn i familjen
 
Johan Pontus
f. 1879 i Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
s.
Pojke, barn i familjen
 
James Torvald
f. 1881 i Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
s.
Pojke, barn i familjen
 
Elin
f. 1883 i Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
d.
Flicka, barn i familjen
 
Qv. Clara
Malmö Sankt Pauli (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
-------------------------------
 
 
The family in 1880:
 
Record 1880-14-213-1412
 
Johansson Borg, Jöns
Arbetskarl [worker]
b. 1850 in Kropp (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
Man, married, father
 
Andersson, Josefina Benedekta
b. 1841 in Onsala (Hallands län, Halland)
Woman, married, mother
 
Gerda Emelia
b. 1874 in Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
Woman, single, child
 
Johan Pontus
b. 1879 in Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
Sonen [the son]
Boy, child
 
Egendom N:o 36 Mellangatan
Göteborgs Masthugg - Västra Haga (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
-----------------------------------------
 
 
The parents in 1900:
 
Johansson Borgh, Jöns
Cementgjutare
b. 1850 in Broby (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Man, married, father
 
Andersson, Benedikta Josefina
b. 1841 in Onsala (Hallands län, Halland)
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Borgh, James Torvald
Kontorsbiträde [office assistant]
b. 1881 in Göteborg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
Boy
 
Qv. Korpen
Malmö Sankt Pauli (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
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// Bo Johansson

2011-09-10, 06:51
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In the marriage record Elin's birth-date is recorded as 21 January 1883, but her birth is recorded in Göteborgs Masthugg parish 21 June 1883, parents J. Johansson Borg and wife Benedikta Josefina Andersson, in GID 100014.84.18600, [Göteborg och Bohus] _SCB Göteborg O Boh., Births,Marriages,Deaths, 1883, Image 186.
 
// Bo Johansson

2011-09-10, 11:18
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Jan!
Do you have a copy of the Arbetsbetyg that may provide us with dates for Olof Edvard working with Alfred Linné and confirming that professional relation?
Alfred Linné was born 1849 in Ryssby - so far I do not know if there is any connection to the scientists family; but at least this is the right part of Sweden.
Hopefully your relatives had a nice trip to Chicago and learnt a lot about Linné and Sweden.
Harriet
 
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2011-09-10, 11:42
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Jan!
Alfred Linné was born July 17, 1849 at Tuna, Ryssby, Kronoberg
Father: Soldier Jonas Gustaf Tune
Mother Anna Stina Samuelsdotter
(Ryssby (G) CI/7 (1844-1863), Bildid SVAR C0025591_00043)
This confirms that Alfred was not born with Linné as a family name but changed later (and in contrast to Olof Edvard Alfred dropped his patronymikon - Jonasson)
Harriet
 
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2011-09-11, 01:05
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Linné was a rather popular family name right before the turn of the last century; I think it was particularly popular among craftsmen like shoemakers, tailors etc. There are lots of Linné people totally unconnected with Linnaeus (or as we call him, Carl von Linné); the end of the 1800's was a time for assuming well-known family names (since it wasn't put a stop to until 1901) and giving your children very grand first names.
Most craftsmen assumed a family name on becoming journeymen (unless they already had a family name they preferred - a family name they didn't always use as apprentices).
 
You can't really say that someone drops his patronymic; the patronymic was there for life - the person who uses it or not is the one making the registrations, i.e. the vicar or the clerk in the parish office.
 
If you want to know more about Swedish naming customs:
http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/Names.pdf
 
An apprentice (lärling) had a contract for a number of years with his master. The apprentice paid the master and worked for food and lodging and the chance to learn a trade. An apprentice was thus not free to come and go, but must stay put and was noted in the household examination roll. The person who came and went was the journeyman (gesäll). He was supposed to go walkies and work for shorter or longer periods of time for different masters, and learn from them - he was however paid since he did work that could be charged for. A journeyman might hold a arbetsbetyg (work certificate) that enabled him to work in another parish without being registered there (compare e.g. with the Dalarna people who went seasonally to Stockholm for work; they were never registered in Stockholm). Of course, if a journeyman settled somewhere, i.e. accepted a permanent position with a master, he'd have to register in that parish.
 
Ingela

2011-09-11, 08:38
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Ingela and Jan!
Thank you for telling us more about names and craftsmen.
In this specific situation I dared to say that Alfred Linné had dropped his patronymikon as I believed that he had signed the arbetsbetyg by hand.
This is of course only a hypothesis until a copy of the arbetsbetyg is found and you, Jan, can find out and tell us.
Harriet

2011-09-13, 20:29
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