Anna Maria Carlsdotter

[Diane Moe]

Hi!
I am looking for information about Anna Maria Carlsdotter, born Feb. 24, 1852 in Dalarna (Norberg?).  She had a brother, John Carlson, born in 1854.  Her father's name was Carl Persson and her mother's first name was Christina.  I believe she came to the U.S. in 1871.  I would like to verify where she was born, if she had any other siblings, and perhaps who her grandparents were.  
 
Thank you!
Diane

[Stefan Dake]

Hi Diane!
 
I have found this:
 
Anna Maria Carlsdotter was born Feb. 25, 1852 in Svarthyttan, Norrbärke parish, Dalarna county.   [1]
Her father was Carl Persson, born Oct. 6, 1816 in Räms Örnäset, Grangärde parish, Dalarna county.   [2]
Her mother was Stina Maja Persdotter, born Sept. 11, 1816 in Laggarbo, Norrbärke parish, Dalarna county.   [3]
The brother, Per Johan Carlsson was born Sept, 26, 1854 in Svarthyttan, Norrbärke parish, Dalarna county.   [1]
There were no more children.
 
Carl and Stina Maja were married in Norrbärke Dec. 14, 1845.  [4]
Carl died by accident July 31, 1862. found dead in a mine in Skisshyttan.   [5]
 
Carl's parents were Petter Persson and Maja Lisa Grandin.   [2]
Stina Maja's parents were Petter Persson Öman and Stina Matsdotter.   [3]
 
Anna Maria moved Oct. 27, 1867 to Västervåla parish, Västmanland county. (Wrongly called Anna Lisa).   [6]
There are no moving-in records for Västervåla after 1860 (SVAR) so I haven't been able to find her there yet. One must search through all pages in the household records. Nor have I tried to find the birth dates and places of her grand parents.  
 
Sources:
[1] Norrbärke C:7, births 1837-1856, not paged.
[2] Grangärde C:7, births 1813-1825, not paged.
[3] Norrbärke C:6, births 1803-1836, p. 62.
[4] Norrbärke EI:2, marriages 1814-1852, not paged.
[5] Norrbärke F:7, deaths 1851-1863, not paged.
[6] Norrbärke B:5, moving 1858-1872, not paged.
and Norrbärke household records AI:12b p. 22; AI:13b p. 24.
 
Regards Stefan

[Diane Moe]

Stefan,  
Wonderful!!! Thank you so much, my father and I are both so excited to have this information.  
 
Could you possibly look up some information Anna and Johan's grandparents?  When are where they were born?
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av chidiane den 30 augusti, 2008)

[Stefan Dake]

Hello Diane!
 
Here's some more:
 
Anna Maria moved to Trummelsberg in Västervåla and from there to Färna, Gunnilbo Nov. 15 1868.  [1]
She returned to Trummelsberg, Västervåla in Oct. 27 1870.  [2]
Moved to Skellefteå  Sept 30 1871.  [3]
The brother, Per Johan Carlsson, moved to Smällan, Stora Tuna parish, Dalarna 1870. 1874 he moved back to Norrbärke for five years but returned to Stora Tuna in 1879 and then emigrated to USA in May 1881.  [4]  
The mother, Stina Maria (Maja) Persdotter, stayed in Svarthyttan, Norrbärke until May 1881, when she emigrated to N. America.  [5]
 
Sources:
[1] Västervåla household records AI:12 1862-1871 p. 142; Gunnilbo household records AI:12 1866-1879 p. 4.
[2] Gunnilbo moving records B4 1850-1871, not paged; Västervåla household records AI:13 1871-1876 p. 156.
[3] Västervåla household records AI:13 1871-1876 p. 156.
[4] Norrbärke household records AI:16b p. 24; St. Tuna AI:23c p. 26; St. Tuna AI:24d p. 47.  
[5] Norrbärke household records AI:16b p. 478
 
This is as far as I can get forward in time with my resources. Maybe somebody else, reading this, can give additional information about Anna Maria's whereabouts after 1871 and about their emigration:
 
Anna Maria Carlsdotter, born Feb. 25, 1852 in Svarthyttan, Norrbärke, Dalarna. Emigrated between 1871 and 1880. Last known place of residence: Skellefteå.
Stina Maria (Maja) Persdotter, born Sept. 11, 1816 in Laggarbo, Norrbärke, Dalarna. Emigrated from Norrbärke  May 11, 1881.
Per Johan Carlsson, born Sept 26, 1854 in Svarthyttan, Norrbärke, Dalarna. Emigrated from Stora Tuna  May 9, 1881.
 
In the meantime I will search for Anna Maria's earlier ancestors. Besides her grandparents, I have also found her grand grandparents and some of their parents.
 
I'll be back!
Stefan

[Diane Moe]

Excellent!  I can't wait to learn more.  Thank you so much!!!!

[Stefan Dake]

Hello again Diane!
 
I am sorry for the delay but there were some question marks to straighten.
(With thanks to Leif Olofsson on this forum)
 
Anna Maria Carlsdotter's ancestors:
Jöns Hansson, born estimated before 1655, married to Kerstin Olsdotter, born estimated before 1655.
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Hans Jönsson, born 9/17 1676 in Gruvriset, Norrbärke (W). Married to Carin Andersdotter.
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Olof Hansson, born 9/25 1703 in Gruvriset, Norrbärke (W). Married to Brita Månsdottter.
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Hans Olsson, born 7/30 1731 in Gruvriset, Norrbärke (W), dead 7/17 1799 in Laggarbo, Norrbärke (W). Married 6/3 1754 to Chatarina Jonsdotter, born 1736 in Gruvriset, Norrbärke (W), dead  9/11 1808 in Laggarbo, Norrbärke, (W).  
For Chatarinas ancestors, see below.
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Per Hansson Öman, born 8/14 1756 in Gruvberget, Norrbärke (W), dead 5/29 1809. Married to Stina Samuelsdotter, born 7/14 1758.
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Per Persson Öman, born 1/29 1790 in Gruvberget, Norrbärke (W). Married 1814 to Stina Mattsdotter, born 10/16 1794. Stina's parents were: Mats Jansson, born 7/9 1753, and Greta Mattsdotter, born 7/18 1755 (married 10/14 1777).
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Stina Maja Persdotter, born 9/11 1816 in Laggarbo, Norrbärke (W). Married 12/14 1845 to Carl Persson, born 10/6 1816 in Örnäset, Grangärde (W), dead 7/31 1862 in Svarthyttan, Norrbärke (W). Stina Maja emigrated 5/11 1881.
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Anna Maria Carlsdotter
 
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Chatarina Jonsdotter's ancestors:
Peder Hemmingsson, born estimated before 1650, dead 1698. Married to Karin Persdotter.
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Lars Persson Grufman, born 7/11 1669 in Gruvriset, Norrbärke (W), dead 9/24 1744 in Gruvriset. Married before 1699 to Karin Esbjörnsdotter, born, according to herself, 5/14 1666 in Västerås (U), dead 3/30 1747.
Lars Grufman was enlisted as musketeer No. 94 in the Life Company of  The Royal Life Guard 7/15 1690. He became pikeman No 3 in the same company and regiment 5/3 1694. Discharged 11/01 1698.
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Jonas Larsson Grufman, born c:a 1708, dead 7/30 1775. Married 1733 to Kerstin Andersdotter.
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Chatarina Jonsdotter
 
Notes:
The letters (U) and (W) are so called county letters, where (U) = Västmanland and (W) = Dalarna.
All men were, as far as I can see and when noted, charcoal burners.
'Gruvriset' and 'Gruvberget' are both the same place.
 
Regards Stefan