Can you help?

[Scott Satterfield]

I'm looking at GID 420.23.56900 at the bottom left hand set of twins, Albertina & Ludvig Oscar, f. 25 Mar 1824.  Can you help me find where they were born.  I can't make it out?  Also what were her parents last names?
 
Thank you so much!

[Bo Johansson]

Perhaps Klockargården.  
 
Parents: organ player and klockare (bell ringer/parish clerk) Lars(??) Apel???(??) and his wife Maja Cajsa .
 
In the HFL AI:8 1816-1820 page 413, handwritten 206 (GID 420.9.18000) his name looks like Lars Apelstam.
 
The next HFL AI:9 1820-1826 page 187, handwritten 97 (GID 420.10.29600) is less readable, her name COULD possibly be Sundin or Lundin.
 
Perhaps easier to read in a later HFL?
 
// Bo Johansson

[Don Tuthill]

Hi again Scott!
 
You can find the family at HFL 1820-1826 GID: 420.10.29600, page 187 in Genline and page 97 in the church book. They were living at ?Klåckaregård?. Their parents were Anders Jönsson b Nov 22 1779 and ?Anna? Andersdotter b ?Feb? ?18? 1778. They were moving from that location but I was unable to see where they were moving to.
 
Hope this helps!
 
Have a nice day!
 
Don

[Don Tuthill]

Please disregard the info I just posted, after having checked the birth record again I see that the info that Bo posted is correct, sorry for my mistake.
 
Don

[Scott Satterfield]

Thank you both so much for looking.  I can't find that area in the 1826-1839 HFL.  Any thoughts?

[Scott Satterfield]

Also, when I look at GID 420.10.29600 I see Lars Appelstam, and a little ways down I see a Daniel Appelstam, f. 11 Dec 1807 in Tuna, Kalmar.  How are they related?  I thought they might be brothers, but their father Magnus would have been 15 when Lars was born?!

[Bo Johansson]

Daniel's title MIGHT be Brorson (brother's son). And I think the birth year might be 1804.
 
Perhaps Lars Apelstam had an older brother?
 
 
And the Västra Husby AI:11 1826-1839 HFL/Communion has a placename index at the last pages, wher you find that Husby Klockaregård is on page 429. This is the handwritten page numbers, you find your family on page 857 (GID 420.12.86300), where Lars dies 1835, and it looks like the family moves somewhere 1835, perhaps to Hylinge(??).
 
// Bo Johansson

[Don Tuthill]

Hi Bo and Scott,
 
I think Bo is right, Daniel was born un Tuna parish, Kalmar län, his birth record can be seen at GID: 167.24.32500, page 241.
 
Don

[Scott Satterfield]

Thank you both again.  I find Lars birth (perhaps?) at GID 29.18.79400.  Where did the last name Appelstam come from?  I can't find them in the Household Exam yet to find Lars and Magnus together as brothers.....
 
Sorry to be such a pain.  Thanks as always for your kind help!

[Scott Satterfield]

I also found this in a past posting.  I can read most of it, but need a little help as to where the name Appelstam came from.  Can you help?
 
Klockaren och organisten i Västra Husby, Lars Apelstam, var född 15/4 1784 i Svartingstorp, Frödinge sn. Hans föräldrar (f.ö. mina anor) var bonden Anders Månsson (född 26/2 1741 i Rumhult, Hjorted sn, död 23/6 1806 i Svartingstorp, Frödinge sn) och hans hustru Elisabet (Lisa) Johansdotter (född 12/1 1749 i Svartingstorp, Frödinge sn, död 12/11 1787 i Svartingstorp, Frödinge sn). Två av Lisas bröder antog namnet Apelstam: Sven, komminister i Löt i Östergötland (född i mitten av 1730-talet, död 27/11 1790 i Prästgården, Löt sn) och Lars (Lorens), kvartermästare och bosatt i Skirö sn (född omkr. 1740, död 23/3 1795 på Apelsnäs [Lorensnäs i hfl], Skirö sn).

[Bo Johansson]

It only says that two of Lisa's brothers took the name Apelstam (Två av Lisas bröder antog namnet Apelstam), so it seems Lars got the inspiration for the name from his uncles.
 
Where they got the name is not mentioned, perhaps one or both lived at a place with a name beginning Apel-, or perhaps they were inspired by an impressive apple tree somewhere, perhaps on their father's farm. Or they just liked the sound of the name...
 
// Bo Johansson

[Scott Satterfield]

Thank you Bo!  Any idea who Daniel is (mentioned above)?
 
Thanks again.