Translation help Casper Henterling

[Barbara Dilling]

I am trying to follow the Casper Henterling family.  In 1770 Casper Henterling  marries Dorothea Elisabeth Swift in Lekaryd, Kronoberg Län  GID 227  832.1; A1:1; 1688-1780 Births, Marriages p. 70.  I think that they have unusual names.  I found the family in the 1772-1791 Household Examination records:  GID  832.3; A1:3   p. 9 (8/252) Kronoberg Län, Lekaryd.  I found them again in the same GID record on p. 119 (62/252) middle of the page.  There is a note next to their names that I cannot translate. Any help would be appreciated.

[Britt-Marie Waller]

Hi Barbara!
 
The brides last name is not Swift, it´s Twist.
 
AI:1 Lekaryd p 70
Married 1770-10-21 kammartiänaren (kammartjänaren, servant to nobility) Casper Helterled och jungfru Dorothea Elisabeth Twist på Gåvetorp.
 
You can find jungfru Elisabeth Twist at Gåvetorp AI:2 Lekaryd p 231, 22 years old. Casper at AI:2 p 233. AI:2 p 235 Åäng, Lekaryd: Casper Helterled, Wife Lisa Twist, son Carl Gustaf born 1771.
 
Caspers last name is written in many ways, somtimes Helteler och sometimes Helterling. Jungfru is a title that girls from a more noble family are given.
 
In the parishrecord Casper Helterling is said to be born in 1744 and  Dorothea Elisabeth Twist in 1746.  
 
C:1 Gällaryd, district of Jönköping, p 172
*1746-11-23 d 23 November föddes Carl Johan Twists dotter i Gällaryd, Matre. Anna Dorothea Felsko (!), christnades hemma i Gällaryds herregård d 24 November och kallades Dorothea Elisabeth.

 
She is born at Gällaryds säteri (mansion) 1746-11-23 and baptised the 24th.
 
If you search this forum for the name Twist, there is some information about the family. Anna Dorothea von Vollschow/Völschow marries the inspector Carl Johan Twist i Fryele, district of Jönköping in 1743-11-13 (C:2 Fryele p 2). She is at this marriage a young widow. Anna Dorothea von Völschow is said to be the daughter of captain Josua von Völschow born in 1693 Greifswald, Germany and dead in the city of Kalmar, Sweden in 1732.
 
In AI:1 Gällaryd p 186 you can find the family at Gällaryds säteri (1765):
Mr Carl Johan Twist 42 (years old)
Mrs Anna Dorothea Volgio (!) 31
D Hedvig Margareta 16
D Dorothea Elisabeth 14
D Anna Stina 4
D Magdalena Catharina 3
S Daniel Georg 1
S Clas Josua ½
 
In AI:3 Lekaryd p 119 Mårtensgård it says: Serves at Oby, living in Moheda parish.  
 
Best regards
 
Britt-Marie

[Barbara Dilling]

Thank you Britt-Marie for the wealth of information.  
 
I have two questions:  Is an inspector like a detective or policeman?
 
                                        Where is Oby?  I found Moheda parish, but cannot find Oby.
 
Thank you again.

[Britt-Marie Waller]

Hi Barbara!
 
Thank you for your nice mail too.
 
In this case the title inspector stands for bailiff?, a person who is in charge of the staff at a big estate.
 
I have found Casper Helterled at Oby säteri, Blädinge parish, province of Kronoberg, AI:3 p 26 (1788-92). At p 28 flickan = girl Johanna Helterled born 1775. Perhaps the rest of the family are living in Moheda as the parishrecord says for Lekaryd. I´ll try to find some more information...Oby estate is located south of the town Alvesta, Kronoberg, Småland.
 
Regards
 
Britt-Marie

[Britt-Marie Waller]

Casper leaves Oby säteri in Blädinge parish in 1790, 5th of January according to the parishrecord above and Johanna Helterled moves to Dufeke = Duveke, probably the estate in Halmstad parish, province of Malmöhus, Skåne in 1793.
 
Casper moves to Gemmatorp in 1790, which is an estate in Lekaryds parish. You can find him there at p 486 AI:3 Lekaryd. AI:4 p 121 - Casper moves to Sparreholm 1795. Sparreholm is an estate also connected to the noble family Mörner, Sparreholm is situated in district of Södermanland and the parish is called Hyltinge. Casper moves between different estates all connected to the Mörner family...
 
You can find him at AI:4 Hyltinge, Sparreholm p 59: Rätt. (rättare = foreman at a farm) Casper Helterled, moved to this place from Småland. He seems to disappear from this place around 1796, I can´t find him in the next parishrecord or in the deathbook.
 
I wonder if his last name should be Helterlein or Hälterlein, which are german names. If you look at familysearch you can find a Weiland Helterlin who has a child Olans! (should be Olaus) born in Gryt, district of Kristianstad, Skåne in 1748-09-11. If you look in the book C:2 Gryt you also can find a son Johan Georg born 1745-06-05 to the tailor (skräddare) Weiland Helterlein and his wife Anna Salomonsdotter. I have looked for Casper in this birthbook with no luck...
 
Regards
 
Britt-Marie
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av bmw 2009-09-21 18:44)

[Britt-Marie Waller]

Hi Barbara!
 
AI:1 Lekaryd p 38
*1771-08-10 Carl Gustaf
Mäster (master) Caspar Helterled, Elisabeth Twist at Åäng.  
 
AI:1 Lekaryd p 77
*1774-08-08 Anna Sophia (Johanna??)
Pottmakaren (Potter, potterymaster) Caspar Helterlid, Dorothea Elisabeth Twist. Witness: Jungfru Anna Stina Twist...
 
AI:1 Lekaryd p 80
*1776-09-26 Hans Fredric
Pottmak. Caspar Helterlid, Dorothea Elis. Twist i Gåvetorp. Wittness: Jungfru Anna Stina Twist..
 
C:1 Lekaryd p 16
*1784-12-31 Eleonora Charlotta
Betjänten (servant) Caspar Helteler, Lisa at Lundholmen (Lisa 38 yrs).  
 
Lundholmen is a place in Moheda parish.

[Barbara Dilling]

Dear Britt-Marie,   You are a marvel!  It will take me some time to digest all the information that you have provided.  Thank you again for all your help.  Barbara Larson Dilling

[Barbara Dilling]

Hi Britt-Marie,  
 
I was looking at the birth of Eleonora Charlotta and my translation of the entry is that she was stillborn.  Is that correct?  I wouldn't think that the parents would name a stillborn child.  
What does the entry say after the word dödfödd?

[Britt-Marie Waller]

Hi Barbara!
 
It´s the child born Dec 10th, a boy who is stillborn, he is the child of the soldier Älg. Eleonora Charlotta are born Dec 31th and baptised 4th of January 1785.
 
The word after dödfödd is gossebarn, boychild.
 
Regards
 
Britt-Marie

[Barbara Dilling]

Thank you Britt-Marie.  I see where I made my mistake.  I found some information on  Google for Anna Dorothea's possible father Josua von Volschow, but it was in German.  I think that you may be right about Casper's last name.  The hunt continues.......Barb