Olaf Salmonson

[Heidi Loukides]

Searching for any records for Olaf Salmonson, son John Olaf Berg and his mother Hilder Christine Larson b.2-21-1886. Both born in Sweden

[Björn-Åke Petersson]

This persons are not found in the swedish reccords. Are you sure that they are not norwegian.
Please give moore informations where they settled in America.
 
Björn-Åke

[Mats Ahlgren]

Heidi
You have the following information in your profile Olaf Salmonson- son John Olaf Berg,b.3-4-1889/d.6-15-1940,J.B. wife Hilder Christine Larson b.2-21-1886/d.9-27-1939  
 
Doesn't match fully with your message.
 
Is it possible that Hildur Kristina was born Feb 21, 1885 ?

[Bo Nordenfors]

Öberg/ Oberg when emigrating?
just wonder:
 
 
1920 United States Federal Census 1920 United States Federal Census
Name:    John Oberg
Home in 1920:    Whited, Kanabec, Minnesota
Age:    33
[36]  
Estimated birth year:    abt 1887
[abt 1884]  
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Self (Head)
[Head]  
Spouse's name:    Hilda
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Sex:    Male
Home owned:    Own
Year of Immigration:    1903
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
John Oberg    33
[36]  
Hilda Oberg    34  born Sweden immigrated 1903
Lenia Oberg    10  children were born in MN
Viola Oberg    7
Renold Oberg    6
Raynar Oberg    5
Tencia Oberg    0
[5/12]

[Bo Nordenfors]

For those who subscribe to Ancestry, a family tree here:
 
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/521720/person/-2071723948

[Bo Nordenfors]

Think Mats Ahlgren found correct Hildur:
 
Post 975272
 
Larsson, Hildur Kristina
Jungfru (unmarried woman)
 
b. 2/21/1885 in Bergsjö, Gävleborgs län (Hälsingland)
 
Emigrated 3/18/1903
from Trösten, Bergsjö, Gävleborgs län (Hälsingland)
to Atwater, Minnesota, USA
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 448
 
Emibas migration file ID: Bergsjö X 1903 003
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Place of destination: Atwater, MN
Country of destination: USA
 
 
according to the family tree I mentioned earlier, mother's first name:  Greta.
 
Went to Census 1900  SwedeN
 
Record 3228986
 
Hildur Kristina
 
b. 1885 in Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
dennas oä. d.   illegitime child of (below)
Girl, child
 
Trösten
Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Bergsjö
 
 
Record 3228987
 
Rolin, Margreta Juliana
piga= maid
 
b. 1863 in Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Woman, single, mother
 
Trösten
Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Bergsjö

[Bo Nordenfors]

Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905 Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name:    Hilder Larson
Census Date:    1 Jun 1905
County:    Kanabec
Locality:    Whited
Birth Location:    Sweden
Gender:    Female
Estimated birth year:    abt 1885
Race:    White
Father's Birth Location:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Location:    Sweden
Roll:    MNSC_130

[Bo Nordenfors]

something to think about:
 
1910 United States Federal Census 1910 United States Federal Census
Name:    John Oberg
Age in 1910:    24
Estimated birth year:    abt 1886
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Son-in-law
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Whited, Kanabec, Minnesota
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Year of Immigration:    1903
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Jonas O Lundquist    40
Greta Lundquist    46
Hildur Oberg    25
John Oberg    24
Linnea Oberg    1 2/12
 
 
Hildur's mother emigrating:
 
Post 975337
 
Svensson Rehn, Margreta Juliana
Hushållerska (unmarried woman)
 
b. 4/13/1863 in Bergsjö, Gävleborgs län (Hälsingland)
 
Emigrated 4/25/1904
from Trösten, Bergsjö, Gävleborgs län (Hälsingland)
to Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 448
 
Emibas migration file ID: Bergsjö X 1904 011
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Place of destination: Minneapolis, MN
Country of destination: USA

[Bo Nordenfors]

Ellis Island website gives us more interesting details:
 
One Johan (John) Oberg and one Jons J Oberg arrived  in New York on March 29, 1903, heading for Illinois (I can't figure out where) and going to their brother Nils Oberg somewhere in Illinois.  
Appears from manifest original spelling was Öberg.

[Bo Nordenfors]

And from Swedish CD Emigranten:
 
Efternamn:   ÖBERG
Förnamn:     JOHAN J
Ålder:       19            Kön: M
Född: 1883/1884
Församling:  HERRESTAD    Län: M
Titel/Anm:   DRG  farmhand
Utresehamn:  MALMÖ  port of emigration
Utvandrdag:  1903 03 17  date of emigration
Destination: NEPONSET IL
Medåkande:   JA
Källkod:     1903:586:4023
 
 
Efternamn:   ÖBERG
Förnamn:     JÖNS J
Ålder:       17            Kön: M
Född: 1885/1886
Församling:  HARDEBERGA    Län: M
Titel/Anm:   DRG
Utresehamn:  MALMÖ
Utvandrdag:  1903 03 17
Destination: NEPONSET IL
Medåkande:   JA
Källkod:     1903:586:4023
 
so we are talking about province of Skåne.

[Bo Nordenfors]

This is maybe the younger Öberg:  (Swedish Census 1900)
 
Record 1081681
 
Jönson Öberg, Jöns
Dräng
 
b. 1885 in Dalby (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
Boy
 
Assarhusa
Hardeberga (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
Place of birth (original source): Dalby Malmöhus län

[Bo Nordenfors]

and the other one from Swedish Census 1900:
 
Record 1092367
 
Jönsson Öberg, Johan
Dräng= farmhand
 
b. 1883 in Vomb (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
Boy
 
Hellestad N:r 1
Hällestad (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
Place of birth (original source): Vomb Malmöhus län
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av rannug 2010-05-14 17:21)

[Bo Nordenfors]

Jöns was born 11 July 1885 in Dalby, Malmöhus county, to Jöns Bengtsson Öberg, corporal, and his wife Mätta Nilsdotter, at Dalby nbr 4.
 
Source: GID 100012.93.28100,  [Malmöhus]  _scb Malmöhus,  .833, Födde, 1885-1885, 0-0,  Bild 281 av 713    
 
 
Johan was born 28 Dec. 1883 in Dalby.
 
Source: GID  100012.89.64100,  [Malmöhus]  _scb Malmöhus,  .774, Födde, 1883-1883, 0-0,  Bild 271 av 314    
 
 
 
Family was found in a clerical survey for Dalby between 1883 and 1891 (AI:16 pg 26, GID  1637.59.3000 )
 
The brother Nils who was mentioned as residing in Illinois in 1903, was born 25 March 1872 in Jöns Bengtsson Öberg's first marriage. Nils emigrated in January 1891.

[Heidi Loukides]

Thank you so much! I will sort the information.  
Tha Birth date for John Olaf Berg is stated as March 4, 1889 on his death cert.Father Olaf Salmonson/Sweden
Hilder Christine (Larson) is Febuary 21 1886.
Any further information on Margreta Juliana,before or arter imm. to US?
Thank You again for your time!!!!

[Bo Nordenfors]

But before we start a new search, what do you say re. the whereabouts? Minnesota?Whited, Kanabec county? Do you think this is your family at all? Please tell us. Olaf Salomonson is the main problem - and the difference in birth date for the son John Olaf Berg.
 
Bo

[Bo Nordenfors]

On the other side the family tree at Ancestry confirms residence.

[Bo Nordenfors]

I think Margareta is the one who is in Census 1910 with Jonas O Lundquist and Hildur, John and Linnea. Greta is short for Margareta.
Jonas O and Greta have been married for six years.
 
 
1910 United States Federal Census 1910 United States Federal Census
Name:    Greta Lundquist
Age in 1910:    46
Estimated birth year:    abt 1864
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Wife
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Spouse's name:    Jonas O
Home in 1910:    Whited, Kanabec, Minnesota
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Year of Immigration:    1904
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Jonas O Lundquist    40
Greta Lundquist    46
Hildur Oberg    25
John Oberg    24
Linnea Oberg    1 2/12
 
Jonas O was listed in Swedish Census 1900 at same place as Margareta and Hildur Kristina,  
 
copy from Census:
 
 
Record 3228988
 
Lundqvist, Jonas Olof
Brukare
 
b. 1869 in Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Man, single
 
Trösten
Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Bergsjö

[Bo Nordenfors]

And here is his emigration record:
 
Post 975336
 
Lundqvist, Jonas Olof
Brukare (unmarried man)
 
b. 11/8/1869 in Bergsjö, Gävleborgs län (Hälsingland)
 
Emigrated 4/25/1904
from Trösten, Bergsjö, Gävleborgs län (Hälsingland)
to Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 448
 
Emibas migration file ID: Bergsjö X 1904 010
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Place of destination: Minneapolis, MN
Country of destination: USA

[Bo Nordenfors]

I think Margareta is the one who is in Census 1910 with Jonas O Lundquist and Hildur, John and Linnea. Greta is short for Margareta.
Jonas O and Greta have been married for six years.
 
 
1910 United States Federal Census 1910 United States Federal Census
Name:    Greta Lundquist
Age in 1910:    46
Estimated birth year:    abt 1864
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Wife
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Spouse's name:    Jonas O
Home in 1910:    Whited, Kanabec, Minnesota
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Year of Immigration:    1904
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Jonas O Lundquist    40
Greta Lundquist    46
Hildur Oberg    25
John Oberg    24
Linnea Oberg    1 2/12
 
Jonas O was listed in Swedish Census 1900 at same place as Margareta and Hildur Kristina,  
 
copy from Census:
 
 
Record 3228988
 
Lundqvist, Jonas Olof
Brukare
 
b. 1869 in Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Man, single
 
Trösten
Bergsjö (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Bergsjö
 
=====================
 
 
John O and Greta from Census 1920
 
 
 
1920 United States Federal Census 1920 United States Federal Census
Name:    John O Lundquist
Home in 1920:    Whited, Kanabec, Minnesota
Age:    50
Estimated birth year:    abt 1870
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Self (Head)
[Head]  
Spouse's name:    Greta
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Sex:    Male
Home owned:    Own
Year of Immigration:    1904
[1907]  
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
John O Lundquist    50
Greta Lundquist    56
 
 
John O from Census 1930
 
 
1930 United States Federal Census 1930 United States Federal Census
Name:    John O Lundquist
Home in 1930:    Whited, Kanabec, Minnesota
View Map
Age:    60
Estimated birth year:    abt 1870
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Race:    White
Household Members:    
Name    Age
John O Lundquist    60
Ames Bylund    26   servant
Peter E Dahl    59   lodger
 
 
 
I searched for John O's death record, but negative.
 
Also Greta's such one could be useful:
 
 
Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002 Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002
Name:    Margreta J. Lundquist
Death Date:    2 Dec 1928
Death County:    Kanabec
State File Number:    006461
Certificate Number:    006461
Certificate Year:    1928
Record Number:    523694

[Mats Ahlgren]

Heidi
In your answer you say that Tha Birth date for John Olaf Berg is stated as March 4, 1889 on his death cert
I guess it should be 1886 (not 1889) as that is what you have on the family tree on Ancestry.
 
Mats

[Mats Ahlgren]

Johan Oberg has given his birthday as March 5 1886 on the WW1 draft card.

[Bo Nordenfors]

This is perhaps the correct person, but am not far from sure.
 
 
Post 1052045
 
Olofsson, Jonas
Torparson (unmarried man)
 
b. 3/4/1886 in Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
 
Emigrated 5/7/1903
from Lännäs, Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
to Amerika
 
Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, vol. Skorped AII:1a, p. 187; Migration Roll, vol. Skorped B:3
 
Emibas migration file ID: Skorped Y 1903 006
 
emigrated with:  
 
Post 1052042
 
Salomonsson, Olof
Torpare (married man)
 
b. 3/1/1835 in Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
 
Emigrated 5/7/1903
from Lännäs, Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
to Amerika
 
Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, vol. Skorped AII:1a, p. 187; Migration Roll, vol. Skorped B:3
 
Emibas migration file ID: Skorped Y 1903 003
 
Post 1052043
 
Hoffman, Maria Brita
Torparhustru (married woman)
 
b. 11/30/1847 in Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
 
Emigrated 5/7/1903
from Lännäs, Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
to Amerika
 
Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, vol. Skorped AII:1a, p. 187; Migration Roll, vol. Skorped B:3
 
Emibas migration file ID: Skorped Y 1903 004
 
Post 1052044
 
Olofsdotter, Märta
Torpardotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 1/6/1881 in Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
 
Emigrated 5/7/1903
from Lännäs, Skorped, Västernorrlands län (Ångermanland)
to Amerika
 
Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, vol. Skorped AII:1a, p. 187; Migration Roll, vol. Skorped B:3
 
Emibas migration file ID: Skorped Y 1903 005

[Mats Ahlgren]

ANd they go through Norway
 
107111 1903  154  16  3662  1  13.05.1903  13.05.1903  Marta  N'strøm  ug   Arb  k  1881  Sverige  Mora, Minn  
107112 1903  154  17  3663   13.05.1903  13.05.1903  Jonas  N'strøm  ug   Arb  m  1886  Sverige  Mora, Minn  
107113 1903  154  18  3664  1  13.05.1903  13.05.1903  Olof  Salomonson  g   Arb  m  1835  Sverige  Mora, Minn  
107114 1903  154  19  3665   13.05.1903  13.05.1903  Maria  Salomonson  g  hustr  Arb  k  1847  Sverige  Mora, Minn  
 
Mark the childrens surname

[Bo Nordenfors]

Departure from Trondheim, Norway with Salmo from Allan Line.

[Bo Nordenfors]

Mora is in Kanabec county, MN.

[Mats Ahlgren]

It took untill 1908 before the marriage took place according to Minnesota Offical Marriage System
 
KANABEC M1220651908000233 8/29/1908 OBERG, JOHN LARSON, HILDA

[Mats Ahlgren]

Family Olof Salomonsson used the name Nastrom in USA. All children had Näsström as surname in Sweden. I can find Marta (married with Andrew Munter), Jonas older brother Olof, born 1883, and Olof and Maria in census and different index.
 
But I can't find Jonas Nastrom, so perhaps he changed name and used Oberg??

[Mats Ahlgren]

This is probably Jonas Näsström, son of Olof Salomonsson, in Minnesota state census of 1905
Minnesota Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905  
about John Nestrom  
Name: John Nestrom  
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905  
County: Kanabec  
Locality: Whited  
Birth Location: Sweden  
Gender: Male  
Estimated birth year: abt 1887  
Race: White  
Father's Birth Location: Sweden  
Mother's Birth Location: Sweden  
Roll: MNSC_130