ssf logo blue Rötter - din källa för släktforskning driven av Sveriges Släktforskarförbund
ssf logo blue Rötter - din källa för släktforskning

Choose language:
Anbytarforum

Innehållet i inläggen på Anbytarforum omfattas inte av utgivningsbeviset för rotter.se

Författare Ämne: Judy Teeple Ida Martina Olasson  (läst 586 gånger)

2007-03-01, 04:14
läst 586 gånger

Judy Teeple

I am inquiring about descendants of Ida Martina Olafsson, birthdate,24 Jul 1842 in Agunnayrd, Kronoberg.  She is a daughter of my grandparents, Jonas Olafsson, birthdate,25 March 1843, and Beata Erlandsdotter, birthdate 8 February 1842.  Ida Martina Olafsson did not emigrate as did her brothers and sisters, John August, Johannes Elof, Anna Gustava, and Emma Christine.

2007-03-01, 20:06
Svar #1

Utloggad Judy Olson Baouab

  • Anbytare *****
  • Antal inlägg: 1355
  • Senast inloggad: 2015-07-14, 18:26
    • Visa profil
Judy,
 
Did you mean to say that Ida Martina was a daughter!!!! of your grandparents (although she was born before Jonas and only a short time after Beata) and that your grandparents were siblings? This (siblings marrying) obviously can't be what you meant. I suppose the connection is to Jonas, but their relative ages perhaps indicate a sibling relationship and that Jonas was premature, since he was born less than nine months after Ida Martina.
 
The spellings in Sweden were most likely Olofsson (or maybe Olufsson)for Jonas and Olofsdotter (or maybe Olufsdotter) for Ida Martina. I think the spelling Olaf is more a Norwegian spelling, although of course I'm not an expert on Swedish names.
 
I don't see any Ida Martina born anywhere in Sweden in 1842 on the 1890 Swedish Census CD. I can't find her in the 1842 birth records for Aggunnaryd on the Genline site, although I might have missed her since the records are hard to read because of bleedthrough from the front and back of each page.
 
I thought I'd check the 1890 Swedish Census again to try to find a couple with the names you mentioned and a daughter named Ida Martina. I see this family (although the father was Johan, not Jonas, but the daughter was absolutely not born in 1842 or in any years close to that. She was, however, born in Agunnaryd. You had mentioned an Anna Gustava and I see one. Perhaps this is the family, although there is a big difference between being born in 1842 and being born in 1879.
 
Post 1271199
 
Olofsson Brolin, Johan
Backstuguhj.
 
b. 1843 i Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Man, married (father)
 
Klockaregården
Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Agunnaryds
 
Post 1271200
 
Erlandsdotter, Beata
 
b. 1842 i Pjätteryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
h.
Woman, married (mother)
 
Klockaregården
Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Pjetteryd Krb. l.
 
Post 1271201
 
Anna Gustava
 
b. 1875 i Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
d.
Woman, single (child)
 
Klockaregården
Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Agunnaryds
 
Post 1271202
 
Ida Martina
 
b. 1879 i Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Klockaregården
Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Agunnaryds
 
 
On the 1900 Swedish Census CD, I see an Ida Martina Brolin (obviously the same one found in 1890) working as a piga (maid)for another family.
 
Record 2313831
 
Brolin, Ida Martina
Piga
 
b. 1879 in Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Girl
 
Backa
Sunne (Värmlands län, Värmland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Agunnaryd, Kronobergs l.
 
I don't see Anna Gustava in that census. She emigrated in 1891, according to the Emibas CD.
 
Post 278944
 
Jonasdotter Brolin, Anna Gustafva
Hemmadotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 12/5/1875 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 3/25/1891
from Klockareg.Backst.Skogsl., Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1891 003
 
Johan/Jonas was listed as Jonas on Emibas, and he was also listed as blind. He and his wife emigrated.
 
Record 4867448
 
Olofsson Brolin, Jonas
Soldat f. d.
 
b. 1843 in Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Man, married, father
 
Blind
 
Agunnaryd Klockargård B. Skogslund
Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Agunnaryd Kronobergs län
 
Record 4867449
 
Erlandsdotter, Berta
 
b. 1842 in Pjätteryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Agunnaryd Klockargård B. Skogslund
Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Pjätteryd Kronobergs län
 
I don't know if this is the correct family since the information is so very far off what you posted, but I listed it, just in case.
 
I looked at the CD Swedish Death Index 1947-2003. I see an interesting Ida Martina born 1879 in Agunnaryd on the same month and day you listed. Her maiden name was Brolin.
 
18790724-270
 
Lindell f. Brolin, Ida Martina
 
Södra Tranhult 1:12
 
Dead 4/29/1960.
 
Registered in Södra Ljunga, Hamneda kn (Kronobergs län, Småland).
 
Born 7/24/1879 in Agunnaryd (Kronobergs län, Småland).
 
Widow (2/22/1956).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2005:
Södra Ljunga, Ljungby kn (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Agunnaryd (Kronoberg)
 
Source records:
DB, FS / DOR 52-60
 
This appears to be the death record of her husband.
 
 
18660830-271
 
Lindell, Karl Edvard
 
Södra Tranhult 1:6
 
Dead 2/22/1956.
 
Registered in Södra Ljunga, Hamneda kn (Kronobergs län, Småland).
 
Born 8/30/1866 in Södra Ljunga (Kronobergs län, Småland).
 
Married man (12/28/1916).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2005:
Södra Ljunga, Ljungby kn (Kronobergs län, Småland)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Södra Ljunga (Kronoberg)
 
Source records:
DB, FS / DOR 52-60
 
The first FAQ on this page provides ideas on how to find living relatives in Sweden.
 
http://www.augustana.edu/swenson/genfaq/
 
Judy

2007-03-01, 20:40
Svar #2

Utloggad Judy Olson Baouab

  • Anbytare *****
  • Antal inlägg: 1355
  • Senast inloggad: 2015-07-14, 18:26
    • Visa profil
I made an error in my last post. The parents were NOT on Emibas and I have no idea if they emigrated, although I doubt it at their age. The record I listed for them came from the 1900 Swedish Census CD. (I have too many things open at one time on my computer.)
 
I forgot to post the siblings' records from Emibas.
 
Post 278765
 
Jonasson Brolin, Johan August
Hemmason (unmarried man)
 
b. 12/26/1866 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 6/18/1883
from Klockareg.Backst.Skogsl., Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1883 008
 
Post 278846
 
Jonasson Brolin, Johannes Elof
Hemmason (unmarried man)
 
b. 7/24/1871 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 2/28/1887
from Klockaregård, Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1887 008
 
Post 278944
 
Jonasdotter Brolin, Anna Gustafva
Hemmadotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 12/5/1875 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 3/25/1891
from Klockareg.Backst.Skogsl., Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1891 003
 
 
Here are some more Brolin hits from the same part of Agunnaryd, as found on Emibas. Given names match the ones you listed. Do their birthdates match?
 
 
Post 278845
 
Jonasdotter Brolin, Emma Christina
Hemmadotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 4/18/1869 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 2/28/1887
from Klockareg. Backst.Skogsl., Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1887 007
 
 
Post 278765
 
Jonasson Brolin, Johan August
Hemmason (unmarried man)
 
b. 12/26/1866 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 6/18/1883
from Klockareg.Backst.Skogsl., Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1883 008
 
Post 278846
 
Jonasson Brolin, Johannes Elof
Hemmason (unmarried man)
 
b. 7/24/1871 in Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
 
Emigrated 2/28/1887
from Klockaregård, Agunnaryd, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 340
 
Emibas migration file ID: Agunnaryd G 1887 008
 
I found the family on Genline, a fee-based site. Birthdates of the parents match the ones you provided, so this seems to be your family.
 
http://www.genline.com
 
You can see the record if you look at this page on Genline. It is a parish record called the husförhörslängd (= HFL = clerical survey record = household examination record.) This one covers 1882-1890.
 
810.30.28300
 
B (farmer) Jonas Olofsson Brolin, born 25 March 1843 in Agd (Agunnaryd), married 19 September ??? 1866; blind
 
H (wife) Beata Erlandsdr, born 2 August 1842 (written as 2/8 meaning 2 August but perhaps misinterpreted in the U.S. as February 8)in Pjätteryd
 
s. Johan August, born 26 December 1866 in Agd, to Amerika 18 June 1883, certificate # 15
 
d. Emma Christina, born 18 April?? 1869 in Agd, to Amerika 28 February 1887, certificate # 7
 
s. Johannes Elof, born 24 July 1871 in Agd, to Amerika 28 February 1887, certificate # 8
 
d. Anna Gustava, born 5 December 1875 in Agd, to N. Amerika 25 March 1891, certificate # 7
 
d. Ida Martina, born 24 July 1879 in Agd.
 
I hope this helps. I did not mention every comment, etc. on this record due to lack of time and it is always best to check records ourselves even if someone else tells you what is on them.
 
Judy

Innehållet i inläggen på Anbytarforum omfattas inte av utgivningsbeviset för rotter.se


Annonser




Marknaden

elgenstierna utan-bakgrund 270pxKöp och Sälj

Här kan du köpa eller sälja vidare böcker och andra produkter som är släktforskaren till hjälp.

Se de senast inlagda annonserna