GID:2316.35.14900 Translation Help

[Eileen Fischer]

I'm looking for help with the translation of the notation for Johanna Sofia Ångberg at the top of the page.  I know her children went to Arbetshuset in 1871, 1874 and the last one in 1875 apparently when she left Arbetare Bod. I found all the children but where did Johanna go in 1875?  I can't find her anywhere in 1875.  I found her in GID 2316.23.32300, GID 2316.58.19800 and GID 2316.58.19900 with what appears to be similar notations, none of which I can make out. I also need to determine if these last 3 GID's are for the sjukhuset or the fattighuset.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 
Eileen

[Kerstin Pawlowski]

Is there any chance of you pasting the text in your next post her?
I would like to try and help you but can´t figure out how to get access to the notation you are reffering to. Or perhaps you can help me understand?  
 
Best wishes

[Eileen Fischer]

I'm not sure how to do this, but here goes.

[Kerstin Pawlowski]

Too me it looks like:
                         Moved to
                         
                        Arbetshuset 74
                        dito
                        dito        75
The longer notation at the top is more difficult to see.
Perhaps another member with better computerprograms for changing pixles etc will have a better chance?
That´s the best I can do for now..
 
Best wishes!

[Arne Granquist]

Hej
 
Johanna Sofia is Ängberg, not Ångberg in later records.
 
The note is :En son oä August Wilhelm på arbetshuset A son , out of wedlock, August Wilhelm on Arbetshuset
Johanna moves to page 136
in the 1880 census she is a maiden at the same location.
 
1890 census
Post 3746894
 
Ängberg, Johanna Sofia
f. Piga  ex maiden
 
f. 1847 i Tysslinge (Örebro län, Närke)
 
Ogift kvinna, mor i familjen  unmarried woman  , mother
 
N:o 44 Storgatan
Örebro (Örebro län, Närke)
 
Födelseort i källan: Tysslinge, Ö. l.
 
her son
Post 3746895
 
Arvid Fridolf
 
f. 1882 i Örebro (Örebro län, Närke)
 
oä. s.
Pojke, barn i familjen
 
N:o 44 Storgatan
Örebro (Örebro län, Närke)
 
v
 
Födelseort i källan: Örebro
 
I didnt find her in the 1900 census

[Arne Granquist]

Little new info
 
Although the birthdates varies from record to record I believe this is the same Johanna Sofia.
A change from Ä to E in names are very common.
 
From SDB 5  Swedish Deaths 1901 - 2009
18470830
 
Engberg, Johanna Sofia
 
Storgatan 38
 
Dead 1/21/1907.
 
Registered in Örebro, Örebro stad (Örebro län, Närke).
 
Born 8/30/1847 in Tysslinge (Örebro län, Närke).
 
Unmarried woman.
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Örebro Nikolai, Örebro kn (Örebro län, Närke)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Tysslinge (Örebro)
 
Source records:
DB
 
 
A

[Eileen Fischer]

Arne, thank you for the info.  Yes that is her, her son born August Hjalmer went to Arbetshuset in 1871.  Two of her children went there in 1874 and one in 1875, one of her sons died in 1874 and apparently her youngest, Arvid stayed with her.  I tracked her until 1900 on the household examinations and apparently she got younger as she got older!  Her age on the birth records of her two youngest is approx. 5 yrs younger that what she really is, and about 1885 her birth year changed to 1847, about 10 yrs younger than she really is.  As far as the day and month of her birth on her death record, I know it is wrong.  Her birth record shows she was born 1 Jun 1837 in Tysslinge.  Her birth day and month is correct on the household examinations through 1900.  I can only assume whoever gave the info on her death didn't really know her birth date.  
 
Although she never married, she had six children (that I found so far).  Not one of the birth records names a father, which makes any further research on their paternal lines pretty much done.  I don't know how all this affected her socially, but I'd like to get more information on the Arbetshuset and illegitimacy during this time period.
 
Her son Carl Frederik Knut used the name Engberg when he came to U.S.
 
Once again, thanks for the info, it was very helpful, I appreciate it!
 
Eileen

[Arne Granquist]

Hej
I suppose You know that Arvid also went to U:S
 
Post 895847  EMIBAS
 
Engberg, Arvid Fridolf
Arbetare (unmarried man)
 
b. 8/30/1882 in Örebro, Örebro län (Närke)
 
Emigrated 5/7/1902
from Storgatan 38, Örebro, Örebro län (Närke)
to Nordamerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 109
 
Emibas migration file ID: Örebro T 1902 032
 
His destination was Chigaco

[Eileen Fischer]

Thanks for the info, I knew Arvid came to the U.S. but I didn't know when.  Thanks again for all your help!