John E Pearson/ Persson

[Janice Soine]

My grandfather was born in Sweden August of 1857.  My information has him being born in Skane province.  I only have limited information on him.
His father was Elias Pearson and I don't know his mother's name.  My grandfather, John, was the oldest of 13 children.  The siblings I know about are Hannah, Elna, Nels, Nellie, Carolina and Lena.  On every official form he has filled out in the U.S. he only says his place of birth is Sweden, but no town.
He appears in the 1880 U.S. Census,but I believe he immigrated just shortly before that from Sweden.  My other Swedish relatives(grandmother's side) sailed from Liverpool to Philadelphia, but don't know if he did or not.
 
We are coming to Sweden this summer and would like to visit his home area if possible.

[Bodil Josefsson]

Janice, do you have more information?
Why do you think he is from Skåne?
Have you any idea where from Skåne..
He was born in August - do you have the day?
Did any of John?s siblings emigrate?
How did you get the information of the siblings and the father?
His wife ... did he meet her in Sweden?
 
I?ve tried to search, but it?s hard. If you knew something more, perhaps it would be easier. Anything...
 
I hope you?ll find your grandfather!
 
Regards Bodil

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Janice,
 
If he didn't use Eliasson (son of Elias) as a patronymic name and instead used his father's patronymic name, then the E might stand for Eliasson.
 
The Emibas cd (which is only about 75% completed) has these maybes for you.
 
Post 504658
 
Persson, Johannes
Dräng (unmarried man)
 
b. 8/18/1857 in Mörarp, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 3/15/1880
from Yndesäte, Mörarp, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
to Amerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 27
 
Emibas migration file ID: Mörarp M 1880 001
 
Dräng = farmhand.
 
Post 472424
 
Persson, Johannes
Tjänaregosse (unmarried man)
 
b. 8/27/1857 in Katslösa, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 5/17/1872
from Katslösa 10, Katslösa, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
to Nakskov, Maribo amt, Danmark
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 91
 
Emibas migration file ID: Katslösa M 1872 002
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Country of destination: Danmark (Denmark)
 
Tjänaregosse = servant boy?? Maybe he later went to the U.S.
 
Post 390958
 
Persson, Jöns
Dräng (unmarried man)
 
b. 8/21/1857 in Benestad, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
 
Emigrated 10/27/1874
from Benestad 14, Benestad, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
to Bornholm amt, Danmark
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 11
 
Emibas migration file ID: Benestad L 1874 004
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Place of destination: Bornholm
Country of destination: Danmark
 
His death certificate probably has a date of birth. Have you tried using the records of the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center at Augustana College in Rock Island, Illinois? They have a website but their extensive records aren't online.
 
http://www.augustana.edu/swenson/
 
Where specifically did he live in the U.S.?
 
Judy

[Ulla Hall]

Hallo Janice,
 
Is it possible that John (Johannes) was born 1856?
I have found a family with father Elias Persson in Skåne with the same children as you mention.
Children:
Johannes (John)
Ingrid
Cecilia
Johanna (Hannah)
Petronella (Nellie)
Elna
Carolina
Nils Peter (Nels)
Elina (Lena)
 
Best regards
Ulla

[janice]

Bodil, Judy and Ulla - Thanks for doing the looking for me.  I think this last reply from Ulla maybe is the RIGHT family.  The information I have is his birth was August 30, 1857, but they may be a year off.
 
I got my information from  my father who is deceased now.  He made a CD with his family's information on it. (as much as he had been told)  In listening to the CD again I hear both Skane mentioned and also Skoning.  Maybe that will help.
 
I like the idea that the E might stand for Elias.  He was the oldest of 13 children.  I believe the birth order was John, Hannah, Elna, Nels, Nellie, Carolina and Lena.  The 4 girls (Hannah, Elna, Nellie, and Lena) came to America as did John and Nels. The girls all settled in the Minnesota area. I think my grandfather, John was the first to come.  The only one to remain in Sweden was Carolina.  We have no information on her.
 
My grandfather lived on a small farm in Sweden.  He became a coal miner in America, but I don't know if in Sweden too.  I think we have found him in the 1880 U.S. census in Port Perry, Allegheny, Pennsylvania.  Then he moved to Idaho and on to Whatacom, Washington, following the coal mining jobs.  He then bought a hotel/resturant and got married to my grandmother.  She was Swedish, but he did not know her in Sweden.  He died in 1914 in Sunnyside, Lake Whatcom, in Washington, later to become Bellingham, Washington.
 
If this is the correct family do you know anything about Carolina who remained in Sweden. Was her name Carolina Persson?
 
I really appreciate the work you are doing for me.  We were able to find lots of information on my Grandmother up in Backebo but John has remained a mystery.  We are anxious to visit your beautiful country.  Janice

[Eva Dahlberg]

some more information is available in a previous post:
 
Anbytarforum: Discussions in English: Emigrants: Locate my ancestors.
 
Regards,
Eva

[Ulla Hall]

Janice,
The family lived in Wasagården in the parish Halmstad in Skåne situated north east of the town Landskrona. Pls observe this Halmstad is not the same as the town Halmstad in Halland.
 
As you can see date of birth for Johannes is written 1856 30th of August. Could someone pls check Genline to find correct date of birth??
 

Halmstad
 (46 k)

 
Regards
Ulla

[Ulla Hall]

Janice,
Emigrations taken from the CD Emibas.
 
Post 464613
 
Eliasdotter, Ingrid
Piga (ogift kvinna)
 
f. 5/7 1858 i Halmstad, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Utvandrad 13/6 1881
från Kärnan 23, Helsingborgs stadsförs, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
till Amerika
 
Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 381
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Helsingborgs stadsförs M 1881 125
 
 
Post 505558
 
Eliasdotter, Johanna
Piga (ogift kvinna)
 
f. 13/3 1863 i Halmstad, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Utvandrad 10/5 1884
från Kingelstad 5, Ottarp, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
till Amerika
 
Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 227
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Ottarp M 1884 003
 
 
Post 505554
 
Eliasdotter, Petronella
Piga (ogift kvinna)
 
f. 2/9 1865 i Halmstad, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Utvandrad 3/8 1885
från Belteberga, Ottarp, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
till Amerika
 
Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 58
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Ottarp M 1885 003
 
Post 474471
 
Eliasson Persson, Elna
Piga (ogift kvinna)
 
f. 5/7 1868 i Halmstad, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Utvandrad 21/8 1894
från Havsörnen 7, Landskrona, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
till Danmark
 
Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 40
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Landskrona M 1894 035
 
 
Post 82664
 
Eliasson, Nils Peter
Dräng (ogift man)
 
f. 28/12 1874 i Halmstad, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
 
Utvandrad 9/5 1891
från Vasagården 5, Halmstad, Malmöhus län (Skåne)
till Amerika
 
Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 106
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Halmstad M 1891 001
 
Regards
Ulla

[Olle Andersson]

Yes - Johannes birth was Aug 30 1856 at Wasagården. Baptised Sept 7th.
Genline 1241.25.34500  [Malmöhus]  Halmstad,  NONE, Födde,Vigsel,Död, 1783-1861, 0-0,  Sida 229 av 260    
Also at
1241.19.37200  [Malmöhus]  Halmstad,  NONE, Husförhör, 1854-1862, 144-0,  Sida 153 av 222
 
Olle

[Ulla Hall]

Janice,
 
Census 1880 Wasagården
Elias 1821
Sofia
Petronella
Elna
Nils Peter
Elina  
 
Census 1890 Wasagården
Elias
Sofia
Nils Peter
Elina
 
Census 1900 Wasagården
Elias
 
Census 1890 Sireköping
Elna, maid
 
Census 1900 Halmstad
Nils Peter
Not to be found from 1891-1900
Runaway to America
 
Regards
Ulla

[Ulla Hall]

Janice,
 
Census 1890 Ottarp
Cecilia, maid
 
Census 1900 Raus
Cecilia 1860
her son Johan Harry  
born 1891 in Ottarp
 
Regards,
Ulla

[Ulla Hall]

Janice,
Correction to census 1900 Raus
Husband Axel Samuelsson born 1862 in Visseltofta  Kristianstads län, worker
Cecilia Eliasdotter born 1860 in Halmstad, Malmöhus län
Her son Johan Harry born 1891 in Ottarp Malmöhus län.
 
Ulla

[Ulla Hall]

Janice,
Maybe this is the emigration for Johannes Elisasson.
 

 
 
 
Regards  
Ulla

[Bo Johansson]

And note that grubearbejder is Danish for mine worker.
 
// Bo Johansson

[Janice Soine]

Many thanks to all who have helped with all of this information.  It is amazing how we have gone from nothing to the whole family.  I believe the ship to New York in 1880 just might be the correct one as the timing is about right, and we can't find him in Philadelphia where my other Swedish relatives came to.  
 
I am interested in the sibling of my grandfather named Cecilia Eliasdotter.  My father never mentioned her.  She stayed in Sweden and had an offspring.  I am guessing from the above information his name would have been Johan Samuelsson.  He would have been my father's cousin.  Is it possible to find if he had any offspring?  Might I possibly have a distant relative still living there?
 
When we come to Sweden we would like to visit the area of Wasagarden.  We cannot find it on our map.  Is it no longer a town?  We do find Landskrona and know it is slightly NE of there.  Would someone in the area be able to direct us to the vicinity ?  Would the farm still be there?
 
I really do appreciate all of your very helpful and interesting information.  Janice

[Olle Andersson]

Janice!
 
I send some files via e-mail. And here just one of them:

 
It is a map from around 1880-1890 and you can see Vasagården No 5 which is the actual location.
I might add that my wife's ancestors were living at  Rönninge, Ottarp which is just some 3 miles SSW from Vasagården. But that was in the 18th century!
 
Regards
 
Olle

[Bo Johansson]

A modern map can be found at http://www2.lantmateriet.se/ksos_eng/visaortnamn.jsp?id=2194137
 

 
I suspect that No 5 might be the house to the left of the red crosshairs.
 
And here is a larger map:  hitta.se
 
// Bo Johansson

[Janice Soine]

Thanks Bo and Olle, I will put the maps to good use.  I presume the number 5 is the house or the farm.  Janice

[Janice Soine]

Boy, I am having trouble finding the location on our modern maps.  We can locate Halmstad which is NE of Landskrona.  If I get to Halmstad do you think someone in the area would be able to direct us to where Vasagarden was?  Or does it still exist?

[Bodil Josefsson]

Janice, try this:
 
www.eniro.se - on this page there is a red button called kartor (maps). Click it. Search for Vasagården. If you can?t write the letter å, search for Folmerstorp - it is situated nearby.
 
This map you can Zoom in and out. You can also get driving-tips - if you click om vägbeskrivning
 
Welcome to Sweden!
 
/ Bodil Josefsson

[Janice Soine]

Bodil - Thanks for the map.  I think this is just what we wanted.
 
Now back to my grandfather's family.  Of all of the children of Elias and Sopia it appears only one stayed in Sweden, married, and had a family.  Cecilia Eliasdotter b. 1860 - married to Axel Samuelsson -b. 1862, son Johan - b. 1891.  Is there a way to find out if Axel married and had children?  They could still be alive and my cousins?

[Bodil Josefsson]

Johan Harry was born 1891-06-17 in Ottarp according to the birth-record (GID 100012.105.39500). It is written that he?s child number two, and there is no father registered. Because of this it?s hard to know his surname. (I guess Cecilia met Axel Samuelsson later)  
 
Pictures from the birth-record
 
 
From Ottarp?s household records 1886-1895(GID 1327.11.35700)it says that Cecilia came from Hässlunda parish 1990-11-11. Probably is Johan Harry made there. There is no more child written that belongs to Cecilia, so hir first child is probably dead.  
 
 
 
I first looked in a CD over living people in Sweden 1970, and couldn?t find him.
I then looked in a CD over dead people between 1950-1999. There are 98 men who died in Sweden with the same birthdate as Johan. In Malmö län, if he stayed here, there are 4 men that could be right - if he died after 1949. The CD doesn?t give birthplace or name to people who died between 1950-1970.
 
Here are the four men mentioned above:
 
Born 18910617-423
Dead ?/7 1954.
 
Kyrkobokförd i Maria Hälsingborgs, Helsingborgs kn, Malmöhus län.
 
Married man.
 
Kyrkobokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2000:
Maria, Helsingborgs kn, Skåne län
Filborna, Helsingborgs kn, Skåne län
Källor:
DOR 52-60
 
-------------------------------------------------
Born 18910617-4130
Dead 20/6 1967.
 
Kyrkobokförd i Kågeröd, Kågeröds kn, Malmöhus län.
 
Not married man.
 
Kyrkobokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2000:
Kågeröd, Svalövs kn, Skåne län
Källor:
DOR 67, UTD 61-67
 
-------------------------------------------------
Born 18910617-4155
Dead 29/1 1966.
 
Kyrkobokförd i Lomma, Lomma kn, Malmöhus län.
 
Widower (1959).
 
Kyrkobokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2000:
Lomma, Lomma kn, Skåne län
Källor:
DOR 66, UTD 61-67
 
-------------------------------------------------
Born 18910617-3918
Dead 12/12 1968.
 
Kyrkobokförd i Burlöv, Burlövs kn, Malmöhus län.
 
Married man (24/7 1920).
 
Kyrkobokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2000:
Burlöv, Burlövs kn, Skåne län
Källor:
RTB 69
 
 
This is what I found out so far. You could send an e-mail and ask for an inventory (?) (bouppteckning in swedish) on this page: http://www.ra.se/lla or just ask for help. They have all the records in original from south Sweden.
 
/Bodil

[Anders Berg]

I checked the newer CD Swedish Death Index 1947-2003. The unmarried man in Kågeröd is most likely Johan Harry.
 
He is listed as J Harry Samuelsson living at the Old Age Retirement Home in Kågeröd, and died June 20 1967. No place of birth is given.