Axel Olofsson, or Olsson from Torsås, Småland went to Canada 1926

[Claes Calemark]

Any information to be found ? he was probably in his mid 30's when he went to Canada to work with Railroads.

[Sam Blixt]

Hi Claes,
 
 
From Emibas I found some information.
It is maybe Your Axel Olofsson.
 
Born 1888, April 9
 
Olofsson, Axel K
Ogift man
 
f. 9/4 1888 i Karlskrona, Blekinge län (Blekinge)
 
Utvandrad 21/4 1923
från Sunelycke 1, Torsås, Kalmar län (Småland)
till Canada
 
Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 758
 
Emibas emigrationsakt: Torsås H 1923 038
 
Regards
 
Sam

[Sam Blixt]

Hi Claes again,
 
Here is moe information from Arkion-SVAR 1900.
Do You know the name of some brother?
 
Om personen  
Namn:  Axel Kaleb  
Hemförsamling:  Torsås  
Hemort:  Slätafly  
Kontrakt:  Södra Möre  
Län:  Kalmar  
Födelseår:  1888  
Födelseförsamling:  Karlskrona Blekinge län  
Civilstånd:  Ogift (O)  
Kön:  Man  
Familjest:  s.  
Famstkod:  Barn (B)  
Hushåll nr:  923  
Familj nr:  1  
SVARvolym:  083402    
Kort nr:  1    
Sida:  72    
Rad:  33    
 
Personer i hushållet:  
Fam. nr 1
 
August Olofsson, f. 1851, Kronotimmerman f.  
Karolina Gustafsson, f. 1847  
Ernst Gottfrid, f. 1880  
Konrad Wilhelm, f. 1886  
Axel Kaleb, f. 1888  
Oskar Fritiof, f. 1878  
Olof Emanuel, f. 1890  
Gustaf Fridolf, f. 1892  
 
 
Regards
 
Sam

[Claes Calemark]

thank you for the information; it can indeed be the same Axel Olofson that I am looking for. What does Famstkod: Barn (B) stand for ? that he had children ?
I will check to find out the name of his siblings, this information can indicate that its a different AO although hemort and socken, name seems correct.

[Bo Johansson]

Famstkod: Barn (B) means that the code for his status in the family was B for Barn, i.e. he was a child.
 
// Bo Johansson

[Lena Thelin]

I have checked the family via Genline and the above Axel K Olofsson is the same as in the census 1900
 

 
 

 
 
18820721-0843
Qvarlander, Amelie Viktoria
Erik Dahlbergsg 22 nb
115 32  Stockholm
Address as of Nov 1, 1970
Dead 4/21/1976.
Registered 1974 in Oscar, Stockholms stad Stockholms län, Uppland. Registered for taxation 1974 in the same parish.
Born 7/21/1882 in Karlskrona Blekinge län, Blekinge.
Widow 1/2/1944.
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
KARLSKRONA Blekinge
Source records:
MTL 71 / RTB 76
 
 
Homeparish:  Karlskrona Amiralitetsförsamling, Blekinge län  
Residence:  Kongl. Carlskrona Amiralitet  
County:  Blekinge  
Carl Edvard Olsson, b. 1873 in Augerum, 2 kl. sjöman
 
Homeparish:  Hedvig Eleonora rote 20  
Residence:  Lifgardet till Häst  
County:  Stockholms stad  
Karl August Murbeck, b. 1865 in Sandby, Sergeant  
wife
Hanna Sofia, b. 1876 in Jämjö
child
Siri Olivia Henrietta, b. 1899 in Stockholm
 
18991130-0862
Murbeck, Siri Olivia Henrietta
Artillerig 22 1 tr
114 51  Stockholm
Dead 12/26/1980.
Registered 1967 in Hedvig Eleonora, Stockholms stad Stockholms län, Uppland. Registered for taxation 1967 in the same parish.
Born 11/30/1899 in Livgardet till häst Stockholms stad, Uppland.
Unmarried woman.
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
LIVG T HÄST Stockholm
Source records:
RTB 81 / SPAR 90
 
Homeparish:  Hedvig Eleonora rote 20  
Residence:  Lifgardet till Häst  
County:  Stockholms stad  
Karl Johan Samuel Torsén, b. 1857 in Gårdeby, Fanjunkare  
wife
Ingrid Stina, b. 1863 in Torsås
fosterdaughter
Agnes Malvina Augusta Karolina, b. 1884 in Karlskrona

[Claes Calemark]

thank you Lena, it seems to be the right Axel, no doubt about it. If I undertand correctly Siri Olivia Henrietta Murbeck amd and Amelie Victoria Qvarlander are sisters to Axel ?

[Lena Thelin]

Qvarlander, Amelie Viktoria is sister to Axel  
 
Siri Olivia Henrietta Murbeck is daughter to Axels sister Hanna Sofia

[Claes Calemark]

can anyone give some light on where above Axel Kaleb Olofsson born 9th April 1888 ended up ? He left Sweden in April 1923 for Canada. I get no hits when I search him in Ancestry.com, how can I progress ?

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Claes,
 
From the Emihamn database of CD Emigranten:
 
First name: AXEL KALEB
Last name: OLOFSSON
Age: 35     Gender: M
Parish: TORSÅS     County: H
Title/Note: F KARLSKRONA
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1923 04 25
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 109:883:9877
 
He is also found on Embas but that is far less specific.
 
Post 340228
 
Olofsson, Axel K
Unmarried man
 
b. 4/9/1888 in Karlskrona, Blekinge län (Blekinge)
 
Emigrated 4/21/1923
from Sunelycke 1, Torsås, Kalmar län (Småland)
to Canada
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 758
 
Emibas migration file ID: Torsås H 1923 038
 
I hope he stayed in Winnipeg.
 
Judy

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Claes,
 
These people also went to Winnipeg at that time, so perhaps searching for these men will help in some way.
 
First name: MARTIN
Last name: SVENSSON
Age: 24     Gender: M
Parish: TORSÅS     County: H
Title/Note: JORDBRUKSARB
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1923 04 25
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 109:883:9876
 
 
First name: KARL ALBERT
Last name: PERSSON
Age: 27     Gender: M
Parish: FORSÅS     County: H
Title/Note: JORDBRUKSARB
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1923 04 25
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 109:883:9878
 
Judy

[Claes Calemark]

thank you Judy, it certainly helps to narrow the search, if indeed he stayed on in Winnipeg. He was apparently employed in or with the railroads, may be that can give addtitional clues as to what happened to him.

[Claes Calemark]

people going to canada, did they usually go via Ellis Island New York or directly to Canada via London f ex ?

[Christian Juliusson]

Hello Claes,
 
According to a transcript of the parish records for Torsås (A11:13, 1917-1929, page 758), it seems that your Axel K Olofsson, born in Karlskrona 9 April 1888, came to Torsås (from Canada?) in 1922 and moved (back?) to Canada in 1923.
 
He was then unmarried.
 
Maybe this could help you further in your search.
 
Best regards,
 
Christian Juliusson

[Claes_calemark]

Hi Christian
That is very interesting if that is indeed the case; I have no information that he actually went to Canada before 1922 , came back and then returned to in 1923. What would point in that direction ? He was a widower in Torsås, had 4 children, the oldest which was 10 in 1923 which is my grandmother in-law. It would be fantastic if I could help her locate her father and find out where he ended up.
 
He is not listed on Ellis Island records, so maybe he came directly to Canada f ex via Drottningholm to Halifax ? Does anyone have Emihamn records from April 1923 to see if he is listed there ?
In the parish records he is listed with destination Winnipeg so I am trying to get a phone book search from that period, but of course he could have ended up somewhere else,, thats the problem.

[Claes Calemark]

I learned today that it was very common for people who went to Canada to come back, and then leave again, which if this was the case, Winnipeg was his actual destination since he already had work and contacts.

[Thomas Vikander]

The parish records for Torsås (A11:13, 1917-1929, page 758) mentioned in the discussion above should indicate on the page, from where he was Inflyttad.
In my limited experience, working class immigrants to Canada in those years did not frequently return to visit Scandinavia.
 Winnipeg is a railway hub where prospective railway workers would find both of Canada's main rail companies.
I have not found Axel K Olofsson in the Vital Events section at the British Columbia Archives.
I searched using the above spelling as well as Olofson,  Olson.  
Did he have experience in farming? Would he have had any interest in getting a Western Land Grant?

[Claes Calemark]

it is possible that he could have some experience in farmwork although I have no certain information on that.
I have also considered that he may have changed his family name but his given names would remain and the combination Axel and Kaleb would not be very common. The main railroads in Winnipeg would that be Duluth Winnipeg & Pacific ? I wonder if it is possible to track him from employment records ?
It seems that it was quite common for a long time that from people from this region and others went to Winnipeg. I suppose work was arranged before the trip through contacts, people who had done the same earlier.

[Thomas Vikander]

It's likely his ship went to Quebec or Montreal at that time of the year, though it's possible it still went on the winter route to Halifax. There should be an immigrant landing record of that.
 
If he grew up on a farm it is possible, then, that he got land to farm once he reached Winnipeg. I think it is more likely if he got land, then or later, and settled into farming that he would have written home to Sweden.  
At Winnipeg there were job recruitment men and he may have got  employment with Canadian National (CNR) or Canadian Pacific (CPR) railways, most likely working on railway sections anywhere west to the Pacific Ocean. He may have quit anywhere along the line and gone to work in some small industrial town or applied for a Western Land Grant for farming. If he was mostly on the move to get work, it is more likely than not that he would lose touch with his homeland.
Especially during the economic depression  
of the Dirty Thirties.
 
I have not seen any discussion of employment records of these railways, on the internet. You raised an interesting suggestion.
 
True, 'Axel' is not a common name and 'Kaleb'  certainly is not.
However it is possible just one of his given names would appear in a record.
There is some chance 'Axel' became 'Alex' or 'Alec'.
 'Kaleb' could also be spelled 'Caleb'.
 
As for 'Olofsson', the likely change is to Olson.
Searches should also include  
Olsson, Olsen,
Olofson, Olofsen
Olafsson, Olafson, Olafsen.
 
At Anbytarforum, Lander, Kanada you can read in both languages other cases of searches for 'lost' Scandinavian emigrants to Canada.

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Try various versions of his name on this database for land grants in the western part of Canada.
 
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020111_e.html
 
There is a hit for a Caleb Olson and a few hits for Axel Olson but none with the two names together. There is an Axel H. Olofson, and perhaps the H was a misreading of K but that is hopeful thinking, perhaps. Play with the spellings and various combinations of names.
 
The actual document they send you isn't too detailed. (My dad's family homesteaded there and I have his information.) However, there are archives with more detail, but the information is not especially useful if you need to find more. For my farfar, the information at the archive (not on ths website) told he had a wife and how many kids he had, the buildings, wells, etc. on the land (and I remember the dimensions of the house being listed), kinds and numbers of livestock, when naturalized (approximately, I think), names and papers filed by neighbors who witnessed that he had made the necessary improvements, and so on, plus (of course) the legal description of where his land was. I can't remember too much detail, other than he originally was born in Sweden. I'm not even sure his age or birthdate was on the record but I haven't looked at it for a while.
 
The Canadian message boards can help you figure out the approximate location of the property based on the legal land description.  
 
If you can pinpoint a location, local histories of the area (of which there seem to be many) may provide more information about this man. I found a lot of good information in local histories for my farfars family in Canada.
 
Judy

[Thomas Vikander]

Further to Judy's good advice:
 
Try Our Roots at,
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/
Click Search at the top of the page, and then on the next page scroll down and use the Search Fulltext area and using axel olson for example, you will get 24 hits in 10 books.
 
Try Our Future, Our Past at,
http://136.159.239.228//

[Claes Calemark]

thanks for the advice, I will have a go at the pages indicated. I have also posted under Kanada, as you say Judy maybe the H is a mistaken K.