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Författare Ämne: Abrahamson, Hilda Gustava  (läst 1541 gånger)

2007-01-29, 22:14
läst 1541 gånger

Emmigrants

Need some lookup help for her and her spouse and children.
 
She born 23 Dec 1857 to Adolfo Fredrik Abrahamson and Johanna Johansdotter in  
Hjulhemmet, Vastra Ny, Ostergotland, Sweden.
 
She had at lest one daughter Sigrid M Jonson or Peterson who imigrated 3/28/1900.
 
Can you see who Hilda's husband was and what all children did they have.  Who else immigrated?
 
Thanks
 
Patti

2007-01-29, 23:29
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Patti,
 
The mother was Adolf's daughter, so her last name would have been Adolfsdotter, not Abrahamsdotter or Abrahamnsson, most likely.
 
I see this person registered to leave Västra Ny parish on the Emibas CD. I think she is yours.
 
 
Post 153730
 
Jonsson, Sigrid Maria
Arbetardotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 10/23/1884 in Västra Ny, Östergötlands län (Östergötland)
 
Emigrated 3/21/1900
from Ryd Lugnet, Västra Ny, Östergötlands län (Östergötland)
to Nordamerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 367
 
Emibas migration file ID: Västra Ny E 1900 012
 
I looked at the household examination record using the Genline site.  
 
http://www.genline.com
 
The family is listed there for the years 1890-1899 and probably looked much the same in 1900. The page number is the same as found on Emibas.
 
Arb. (worker) Anton Fredrik Jonsson, born 23 December 1842 in Godegård, married 21 September 1878, (plus some comments,etc. that I'll let the Swedes deal with. The gist is that the children aren't baptised because of the parents's refusal??, perhaps. There is a word I don't know.)
 
wife Hilda Gustafva Adolfsdotter, born 23 December 1857 in Västra Ny (I wonder if the birthdate for the husband is an error in copying. It seems odd to me that both had the same birth month and day.)
 
children:
 
d. Elsa Fredrika (crossed off), born 29 October 1881 in Västra Ny, moved to page 480 on 8 November 1898
 
d. Sigrid Maria (odöpt = unbaptised), born 23 October 1884 in Västra Ny (There is a comment on the right that she was baptised 26 May 1898 (plus some more comments: with the parents and something else. The Swedes will explain.)
 
s. Kaleb Justus (odöpt = unbaptised), born 2 September 1886 in Västra Ny  
 
s. Matheus Ferdinand (odöpt = unbaptised), born 18 December 1888 in Västra Ny  
 
d. Hanna Gustafva (odöpt = unbaptised), born 24 March 1891 in Västra Ny  
 
d. Alma? Elisabet (odöpt = unbaptised), born 5 July 1894 in Västra Ny  
 
d. (crossed out and a cross put in front of her name) Naemi Augusta (odöpt = unbaptised), born 23 September 1898 in Västra Ny and died 25 May 1899
 
This is apparently the correct family in the 1890 Swedish Census but they have your Sigrid's name written incorrectly. Perhaps it was difficult to read in the original or perhaps the priest made an error. I only have the Swedish version of the cd.
 
father:
 
Post 782526
 
Jonsson, Anton Fredrik
Jordbr. arbet.
 
f. 1842 i Godegård (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Gift man, far i familjen
 
Storkängen
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Godegård
 
mother:
 
Post 782527
 
Adolfsdotter, Hilda Gustafva
 
f. 1857 i Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
h.
Gift kvinna, mor i familjen
 
Storkängen
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Vestra Ny
 
 
children:
 
Post 782528
 
Elsa Fredrika
 
f. 1881 i Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
d.
Flicka, barn i familjen
 
Storkängen
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Vestra Ny
 
 
Post 782529
 
Signe Maria
 
f. 1884 i Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
d.
Flicka, barn i familjen
 
Storkängen
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Vestra Ny
 
 
Post 782530
 
Kaleb Justus
 
f. 1886 i Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
s.
Pojke, barn i familjen
 
Storkängen
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Vestra Ny
 
 
Post 782531
 
Matheus Ferdinand
 
f. 1888 i Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
s.
Pojke, barn i familjen
 
Storkängen
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Födelseort i källan: Vestra Ny
 
 
1900 Swedish Census CD:
 
Record 4322715
 
Jonsson, Anton Fredrik
Backstuguhjon
 
b. 1842 in Godegård (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Man, married, father
 
Lugnet
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Godegård Östergötlands län
 
 
Record 4322716
 
Adolfsdotter, Hilda Gustafva
 
b. 1857 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Lugnet
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Västra Ny Östergötlands län
 
Record 4322717
 
Kaleb Justus
 
b. 1886 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
s.
Boy, child
 
Lugnet
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Icke döpt
 
Place of birth (original source): Västra Ny Östergötlands län
 
 
Record 4322712
 
Matheus Ferdinand
 
b. 1888 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
s.
Boy, child
 
Idiot
 
Lugnet
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Absent when registering
 
Place of birth (original source): Västra Ny Östergötlands län
 
 
Record 4322713
 
Hanna Gustafva
 
b. 1891 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Lugnet
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Icke döpt
 
Place of birth (original source): Västra Ny Östergötlands län
 
 
Record 4322714
 
Alma Elisabet
 
b. 1894 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Lugnet
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Icke döpt
 
Place of birth (original source): Västra Ny Östergötlands län
 
 
Icke döpt means not baptised.
 
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2007-01-29, 23:40
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In the 1900 Census, Elsa Fredrika was working as a piga (maid) in this household.
 
Record 4322199
 
Karlsson, Alfred
Rättare
 
b. 1863 in Kristberg (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Man, married, father
 
Eldsbränna
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Kristberg Östergötlands län
 
 
Record 4322198
 
Johansdotter, Johanna Elisabet
 
b. 1872 in Kristberg (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Eldsbränna
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Kristberg Östergötlands län
 
 
Record 4322197
 
Agnes Alfrida
 
b. 1895 in Kristberg (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Eldsbränna
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Kristberg Östergötlands län
---------------------------------------------
Record 4322200
 
Jonsson, Elsa Fredrika
Piga
 
b. 1881 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Girl
 
Eldsbränna
Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Västra Ny Östergötlands län
 
 
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2007-01-29, 23:58
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From the CD Swedish Death Index 1947-2003:
 
18940705-2308
 
Johansson, Alma Elisabet
 
By
591 00  Motala
 
Dead 10/11/1978.
 
Registered (1978) in Godegård, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland). Registered for taxation (1978) in the same parish.
 
Born 7/5/1894 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Married woman (12/30/1913).
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
V NY (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
RTB 78 / SPAR 80
 
This is probably the death record of her husband.
 
18921210-2330
 
Johansson, Adolf Ivar
 
Hökavägen 15 Godegård
591 98  Motala
 
Dead 1/28/1989.
 
Registered (1984) in Godegård, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland). Registered for taxation (1984) in the same parish.
 
Born 12/10/1892 in Godegård (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Widower (10/11/1978).
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
GODEGÅRD (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
RTB 89 / SPAR 90
***********************************************
 
18910324-2328
 
Karlsson, Hanna Gustava
 
Jägerhult Nykyrka
591 00  Motala
(Address as of Nov 1, 1970)
 
Dead 12/11/1970.
 
Registered in Västra Ny, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland). Registered for taxation in the same parish.
 
Born 3/24/1891 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Widow (3/12/1966).
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
VÄSTRA NY (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
MTL 71 / RTB 71 / UTD 70d
 
I think this is the death record of her husband.
 
18810612-233
 
Karlsson, Karl Axel
 
Jägerhult 1:1
 
Dead 3/12/1966.
 
Registered in Västra Ny, Godegårds kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Born 6/12/1881 in Kristberg (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Married man (6/21/1912).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2005:
Västra Ny, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Kristberg (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
DB, FB / DOR 66
*********************************************
18860902-2119
 
Jonsson, Kaleb Justus
 
Lasarettsg 19
591 00  Motala
(Address as of Nov 1, 1970)
 
Dead 1/7/1977.
 
Registered (1971) in Motala, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland). Registered for taxation (1971) in the same parish.
 
Born 9/2/1886 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Widower (1/9/1965).
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
V NY (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
MTL 71 / RTB 77 / RTBd 77
*************************************************
 
18811029-2326
 
Jakobsson, Elsa Fredrika
 
Bispmotalag 62
591 00  Motala
(Address as of Nov 1, 1970)
 
Dead 3/9/1973.
 
Registered (1973) in Motala, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland). Registered for taxation (1973) in the same parish.
 
Born 10/29/1881 in Västra Ny (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Widow (7/8/1953).
--------------
Parish of birth in the records:
V NY (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
MTL 71 / RTB 73
 
I think this is the death record of her husband.
 
18801120-235
 
Jakobsson, Karl Hjalmar
 
Nyberg ingesby lilla 1:4
 
Dead 7/8/1953.
 
Registered in Västra Ny, Godegårds kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Born 11/20/1880 in Kristberg (Östergötlands län, Östergötland).
 
Married man (11/28/1911).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2005:
Västra Ny, Motala kn (Östergötlands län, Östergötland)
 
Parish of birth in the records:
Kristberg (Östergötland)
 
Source records:
DB, FB / DOR 52-60
 
 
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2007-01-30, 01:03
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I forgot to provide the GID number for the record listed earlier.
 
421.44.37000
 
There is also a comment on this page.
 
421.44.51100
 
In the HFL for 1886-1890, they can be seen at this GID number.
 
421.42.23300
 
The HFL for 1881-1885 shows another child, Betty Amalia, who died. She was born 12 January 1880 and died 9? August? 1881.
 
421.38.15100
 
 
GID # 421.39.40100 shows the family with two children, Elsa Fredrika (no comment about baptism, so she probably was baptised) and Sigrid Maria, who was not baptised. Comment: odöpt (se 1884 i dopbok) = unbaptised (see 1884 in baptism book).
 
They must not have wanted their children to be baptised in the Lutheran Church.
 
They were married 21? September 1878.
 
 
In all of these records so far, the father has the same month and day of birth as the wife, which still seems unlikely to me. Keep working backwards in the records to check this out.
 
Judy

2007-01-30, 03:48
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Patti White

Thank you for such a quick reply.  You amaze me once again.  When I have the time I will have to subscribe to Genline for a few months and get all the missing data.  I have tried it before in the past but it didn't have much for me at that time.
 
You did a wonderful job and it is much appreciated.  I will pass this on to others that are working on same line.  
 
My mother told me that the reason the Abrahamson's immigrated was due to religious persacution.  They wanted to practice Baptist Religion.  So maybe that was still a problem for there eldest daughter and her children at the time.  Seems a bit strange to me.
 
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2007-01-30, 03:50
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Västra Ny Marriage Records 1844-60
Married 20 Sep 1857
Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, farmhand at Ubbels by (Ubbel's village)
Johanna Johansdotter
 
Västra Ny Birth Records 1852-64
23 Dec 1857, Hilda Gustava, bapt. 27 Dec, parents estate labourer Adolf Abrahamsson and wife Johanna Andersdotter at Hjulhemmet
Witnesses: Tenant farmer Carl-G. Petersson with wife at Fläda, farmhand A. Gustafsson at Dansby and girl Sof. Ulriksd at Ubbels by
 
”Hfl” = clerical survey records, or household examinations roll
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 13 1854-60
page 316 (Hjulhemmet or Perstorp)
Married farmhand Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832 in Västra Ny
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832 in Västra Ny
Hilda Gustava, b. 23 Dec 1857
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 15 1861-66
page 317 (Hjulhemmet or Perstorp)
Married farmhand Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832
Hilda Gustava, b. 23 Dec 1857
Anna Charlotta, b. 11 Apr 1860
Emma Fredrika, b. 16 Mar 1862
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864
The entire family moves in 1864 to
page 232 (croft Bolltorp on the Ryds estate)
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 17 1866-70
page 279 (croft Bolltorp on Ryd's estate)
Crofter Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832
Hilda Gustava, b. 23 Dec 1857
Anna Charlotta, b. 11 Apr 1860
Emma Fredrika, b. 16 Mar 1862
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864
Paulina Sophia, b. 13 Mar 1867
Carl Adolf, b. 27 Nov 1869
They employ a farmhand, Alfred Jacobsson b. 1841 in Västra Ny.
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 19 1871-75
page 279 (croft Bolltorp on Ryd's estate)
Crofter Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832
Hilda Gustava, b. 23 Dec 1857 - reads “a”! confirmed 09 May 1872, moves out 21 Nov 1872
Anna Charlotta, b. 11 Apr 1860
Emma Fredrika, b. 16 Mar 1862
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864
Paulina Sophia, b. 13 Mar 1867
Carl Adolf, b. 27 Nov 1869
August Ferdinand, b. 11 Jan 1872
Sigrid Johanna Evelina, b. 18 Dec 1874
They employ a farmhand, Alfred Jacobsson b. 1841 in Västra Ny.
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 21 1875-80
page 381 (croft Bolltorp on Ryd's estate)
Crofter Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832
Anna Charlotta, b. 11 Apr 1860, moves out 1876
Emma Fredrika, b. 16 Mar 1862, moves out 1877
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864
Paulina Sophia, b. 13 Mar 1867
Carl Adolf, b. 27 Nov 1869
August Ferdinand, b. 11 Jan 1872
Sigrid Johanna Evelina, b. 18 Dec 1874, d. 11 Jul 1875
Ameli Viktoria, b. 18 Jun 1877
They employ a farmhand, Anders Theodor Abrahamsson, b. 1850 in Västra Ny.
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 23 1881-85
page 381 (croft Bolltorp on Ryd's estate)
Crofter Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864
Paulina Sophia, b. 13 Mar 1867, moves out 1883
Carl Adolf, b. 27 Nov 1869
August Ferdinand, b. 11 Jan 1872
Ameli Viktoria, b. 18 Jun 1877
They again employ farmhand Alfred Jacobsson, b. 1841 in Västra Ny.
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 25 1886-90
page 366 (croft Bolltorp on Ryd's estate)
Crofter Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, b. 23 Feb 1832
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864
Carl Adolf, b. 27 Nov 1869, moves out 1886
August Ferdinand, b. 11 Jan 1872
Ameli Viktoria, b. 18 Jun 1877
The family moves 08 Nov 1887 to
page 557 (Krakhult's former Common)
Labourer Adolf Fredrik Abrahamsson, b. 09 Mar 1832, emigrates (certificate no 8) 19 April 1991
Wife Johanna Johansdotter, f. 23/2 1832 i Västra Ny, emigrates (certificate no 8) 19 April 1991
Oscar Fredrik, b. 02 Oct 1864, moves out 1889
August Ferdinand, b. 11 Jan 1872, emigrates (certificate no 75) 25 Oct 1889
Ameli Viktoria, b. 18 Jun 1877, emigrates (certificate no 8) 19 Apr 1991
 
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 19 1871-75
page 130 (Fläda, Hilda Gustava's godparents' farm)
Female farmhand Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857
moves here 21 Nov 1872
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I: 20 1875-80
page 172 (Fläda)
Female farmhand Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857
Moves 23 Nov 1876 to page 116 (Belleberg), with her godparents
Moves out of the parish of Västra Ny 14 Oct 1878 (certificate no 34), to the parish of Godegård.
 
Moves in to the parish of Godegård 06 Nov 1878 (certificate no 19)
Godegård Hfl A I: 15 1876-80
page 251 (Mon or Kulan with Mon)
Female farmhand Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857
Marries here 21 Sep 1879 Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842 in Godegård; he has however worked in Västra Ny - at Hjulhemmet! - 1873-1876.
 
SCB Marriage Records for Godegård 1879
Married 21 Sep 1879
Anton Fredrik Jonsson, farmhand at Mon
Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, female farmhand at Mon
 
The newly-weds move out of Godegård 23 Oct 1879 (certificate no 50) and back in to Västra Ny 31 Oct 1879 (certificate no 16).
Västra Ny Hfl A I:20 1875-80
page 207 (Lilla Ingesby)
Labourer Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842
Wife Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, f. 23 Dec 1857
Betty Amalia, b. 12 Jan 1880 in Västra Ny
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I:22 1881-85
page 206 (Lilla Ingesby)
Labourer Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842
Wife Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, f. 23 Dec 1857
Betty Amalia, b. 12 Jan 1880, d. 09 Aug 1881 in Västra Ny
Suddenly the marriage date is changed to 1878! (and remains so throughout)
They move 15 Nov 1881 to
Västra Ny Hfl A I:23 1881-85
page 542 (Stockängen)
Labourer Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842
Wife Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857
Elsa Fredrika, b. 29 Oct 1881
Sigrid Maria, b. 23 Feb 1884 - not baptized!
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I:25 1886-90
page 523 (Stockängen)
Labourer Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842
Wife Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857
Elsa Fredrika, b. 29 Oct 1881
Sigrid Maria, b. 23 Feb 1884 - not baptized!
Kaleb Justus, b. 02 Sep 1886 - not baptized!
Mateus Ferdinand, b. 18 Dec 1888 - not baptized!
Hanna Gustafva b. 27 Mar 1891 - not baptized!
Comment in Hfl: Parents refuse to have children baptized! (possibly Baptists?)
 
Västra Ny Hfl A I:27 1890-99
page 523 (Stockängen)
Labourer Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842
Wife Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857
Elsa Fredrika, b. 29 Oct 1881
Sigrid Maria, b. 23 Feb 1884 - not baptized!
Kaleb Justus, b. 02 Sep 1886 - not baptized!
Mateus Ferdinand, b. 18 Dec 1888 - not baptized!
Hanna Gustafva b. 27 Mar 1891 - not baptized!
Moves in 1891 to
page 367 (croft Lugnet on Ryd's estate)
Labourer Anton Fredrik Jonsson, b. 23 Dec 1842
Wife Hilda Gustava Adolfsdotter, b. 23 Dec 1857, recorded as crazy which however is crossed out (she still has a for reading & religion!)
Elsa Fredrika, b. 29 Oct 1881, not confirmed, moves out 1898
Sigrid Maria, b. 23 Feb 1884, baptized 26 May 1898 with parents' approval!
Kaleb Justus, b. 02 Sep 1886 - not baptized!
Mateus Ferdinand, b. 18 Dec 1888 - not baptized!
Hanna Gustafva b. 27 Mar 1891 - not baptized!
Alma Elisabet, b. 05 Jul 1994 - not baptized!
Naemi Augusta, b. 23 Sep 1898 - not baptized!, d. 25 May 1899
 
When Elsa Fredrika moves out she is called Jonsson, not Antonsdotter.  
 
It is quite correct that both Anton Fredrik and Hilda Gustava were born on Dec 23rd.
 
The Hfl:s on Genline end at about 1895-1899, so I can't see what happened later than 1899.
It is however quite clear that both Hilda's parents and at least a couple of her siblings emigrated.
 
Ingela

2007-01-30, 04:02
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Patti,
 
Until about 1860 you were only allowed one religion in Sweden: Lutheranism. There were a couple of exceptions, namely Jews and Catholics. No one was allowed to convert but if an immigrant happened to be a Jew or a Catholic they were allowed to keep their faith from the late 18th century (before this it was not allowed).
In 1862 you were allowed to convert to a few approved Christian faiths: baptist was one of them. However, while it was allowed in law, it was not at all liked by the clergy (and usually frowned upon by the neighbours) in rural communities. In the cities most people didn't care (except super conservative Göteborg of course).
But it was not until after WW II that Sweden had true religious freedom. Well, you were still born into the state church, but you could get out and did not have to enter any other religion. In 2000 (only 6 years ago) the state church was abolished. But more than 80% of the Swedes still belong to the Swedish church.
In the old days lots of emigrants had religious constraint as one of their reasons for emigrating - still, the very first thing the majority of them did when they arrived in their new country was to trot off to the nearest Lutheran church...
 
Ingela

2007-01-30, 19:30
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Patti White

Thank you Ingela.  This is some good reading.  I am very thankful for your help in looking this up and replying so quickly.  
 
We now trying to confirm that Hilda was only sibling to remain behind in Sweden.
 
We think her daughter Sigrid is only child to leave.
 
Does anyone have access to exit records for info on Sigrid Maria and Elsa Fredrika?
 
Thanks Patti

2007-01-31, 01:46
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Utloggad Carl Wolf

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Hi, this is from the Emihamn emigration cd:
 
Sigrid M Jonson
Age 15  
Parish V NY
Port Göteborg
Date 1900 03 28
Destination Iron River
Fellow NEJ (no fellow travelers)
Source: 65.239.10052
 
I also searched (fairly superficially) for Elsa Fredrika but didn't see any entries that were the right age for her.  It's possible she did emigrate -- both of my grandparents did in 1892 and 1893, and neither are in Emihamn.
 
-carl

2007-01-31, 19:34
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Patti White

Thanks for look up Carl.  Elsa Fredrika died in Sweden in 1973.
 
But, what ever happened to Matheus Ferdinand b. 18 Dec 1888?  No other info given.
 
Thanks Patti

2007-02-01, 18:50
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Unfortunately I'm not finding anyone with a name close to Matheus Jonsson or Matheus Antonsson who is the correct age.  The only other Jonssons I found emigrating from V NY parrish are Anna K age 16 in 1894, and A A age 20 in 1888, neither of whom are in the above list of your family compiled by Ingela Martenius from the husförhörslängd.  
 
Since the husförhörslängd rolls end in 1899, maybe someone who has either the Sveriges Befolkning 1970 CD (swedish population in 1970) or the Sveriges Dödbok CD (deaths 1950-2000) would look to see if he is listed in either of these databases.
 
-carl

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