Olsson - Family from Karlstad. Emigr 1870 (ca)

[Debra Oliver]

My great-great grandfather emigrated to the USA from Sweden around 1869 or 1870 along with 5 siblings. The siblings that emigrated were:
 
1. Andrew (maybe Anders)twin of Swan - Andrew married to Gusta - unsure if married at time of emigration
2. Swan (maybe Svan/Sven)twin of Andrew - Swan married to Christine - unsure if married at time of emigration
3. John (maybe Johan) born September 1850 - age 19 and unmarried at emigration - changed name to Nordstrom upon arrival - notes I have say birth was confirmed in the Swedish Lutheran Church in Karstad
4. Fred (maybe Fredrick) birth unknown
5. Carrie birth unknown
6. Kate birth unknown
 
There was another sister that stayed in Sweden - name unknown but had 2 children August & Hulda Johnson
 
Any information regarding their parents and/or emigration would be greatly appreciated
 
Debra Oliver

[Debra Oliver]

My apologies, the last name at the time of emigration was OLSSON/OLSON
 
Thank you,  
 
Debra Oliver

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[Arne Granquist]

This seems to be Your family.
Nor is a parish in Värmland, not far from Karlstad
 
Nor AI:11 (1841-1845) Bild 221 / sid 215 (AID: v12185.b221.s215, NAD: SE/VA/13389)
Nor AI:12 (1846-1850) Bild 241 / sid 234 (AID: v12186.b241.s234, NAD: SE/VA/13389)
Nor AI:13 (1851-1855) Bild 287 / sid 277 (AID: v12187.b287.s277, NAD: SE/VA/13389)
at Humletorp
Olof Svensson   born 24 Dec 1807 Nor
Cajsa Andersdotter  b 2 Aug 1810 Grava
dau Maja b 10 Mar 1832 Nor
dau Cathrina b 6 Marc 1834 Nor
son Swen b 18 Dec 1836 Nor
son Anders b 18 Dec 1836 Nor
dau Anna  b 15 Jul 1841 Nor
dau Stina  b 6 May 1844 Nor
dau Carolina  b 1 Feb 1847 Nor
son Johannes  b 30 Sep 1850 Nor
son Olof  b 2 Sep 1853 Nor
 
Arne

[Arne Granquist]

Emigrants
 
From EMIBAS
 
Post 700004
Olsdotter, Catarina
Piga (unmarried woman)
b. 3/6/1834 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 5/17/1871
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Amerika
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1871 118
 
Post 807876
Olofsson, Anders
Dräng (man)
b. 12/18/1836 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 1/22/1869
from Humletorp, Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
0871869001 - Bilaga/ytterligare information finns. Kontakta Emigrantregistret i Karlstad
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 318
Emibas migration file ID: Nor S 1869 001
 
Post 782464
Olsson, Sven
Backstugusittare (married man)
b. 12/18/1836 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 8/5/1870
from Bofasterud, Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
0101870011 - Bilaga/ytterligare information finns. Kontakta Emigrantregistret i Karlstad
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 40
Emibas migration file ID: Grava S 1870 011
 
Swen\s wife
Post 782465
Olsson Jonasdotter, Gertrud
Hustru (married woman)
b. 6/1/1835 in Fryksände, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 8/5/1870
from Bofasterud, Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
0101870012 - Bilaga/ytterligare information finns. Kontakta Emigrantregistret i Karlstad
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 40
Emibas migration file ID: Grava S 1870 012
Swen´s children
Svensdotter Olsson, Anna Kajsa
Barn (unmarried woman)
b. 12/4/1862 in Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Svensson Olsson, Johan Wilhelm
Barn (unmarried man)
b. 4/13/1866 in Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Svensdotter Olsson, Maria
Barn (unmarried woman)
b. 7/13/1869 in Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Post 807940
Olsdotter, Stina
Piga (unmarried woman)
b. 5/6/1844 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 9/13/1873
from Edsvalla Tråssnäs, Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Amerika
0871873010 - Bilaga/ytterligare information finns. Kontakta Emigrantregistret i Karlstad
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 198
Emibas migration file ID: Nor S 1873 010
 
Post 699997
Olsdotter, Carolina
Unmarried woman
b. 2/1/1847 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 5/16/1871
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Amerika
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1871 111
 
Post 699817
Olsson, Johannes
Skomakare (unmarried man)
b. 9/20/1850 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 8/12/1870
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Amerika
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1870 180
 
Post 700000
Olsson, Olof
Dräng (unmarried man)
b. 9/2/1853 in Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
Emigrated 5/16/1871
from Göteborgs domkyrkoförs, Göteborgs och Bohus län (Västergötland)
to Amerika
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Göteborgs domkyrkoförs O 1871 114
 
Arne

[Arne Granquist]

Parents
Nor F:1 (1861-1894) Bild 13 (AID: v5117.b13, NAD: SE/VA/13389)
Death records
dead  27 Sep 1862
buried 5 Oct
Wife Kajsa Andersdotter of Humletorp
caused by dysentery (rödsot)
 
Post 807939  EMIBAS
 
Svensson, Olof
Man
b. 12/24/1807
Emigrated 9/13/1873
from Mellerudstorp Humletorp, Nor, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Amerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 330
Emibas migration file ID: Nor S 1873 009
 
Arne

[Debra Oliver]

Arne,  
 
Thank you very much for this information.  This has been a mystery for many years. Maybe Nor is the reason my great great grandfather changed his name to Nordstrom.  It saddens me that his father emigrated but there was no mention in the family history.  If only someone knew the circumstances.  
 
Debra

[Katrin Lundstedt-Enkel]

I found a page with photos of a Humletorp in Värmland that today is a camping place. This is NOT your family´s stedding, but it would have looked something like that.  
Your Humletorp (within Nors parish) is situated approximately 1 kilometre (less than one mile) west of Karlstads airport.
 
http://www.humletorpstugby.se/
 
Humle means Hops (that one use for making beer) and torp is a small stedding, often not on free land but being rented from a farmer but with a piece of rented farmland as well.  
The family must have been poor, Dräng means farm-hand, piga is a female servant doing all the hard work at a farm like milking the cows, Backstugusittare is a small crofter, often a tiny house rented without any surrounding farmland, just a place to live between gruelling work hours, perhaps as a farmhand at a nearby farm that provided the tiny cottage. There is a photo here, quite poignant of a crofters hut http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstugusittare
 
Johannes is listed as a Skomakare, a shoe maker.
 
Nord means North and ström means stream. Maybe there was a stream north of the stetting?
 
Yes, wouldn't it be wonderful if one had more of the reasons WHY people emigrated. Some of my ansestors emigrated from UK to USA, Canada, South Africa and Australia (and to Sweden just one generation ago) but why?
 
Hope that you can go further back now
Let me know if I can help as I have assess  to all the church records in Sweden (Arkiv Digital) and can easily look things up there.
 
Sincerely
Katrin
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av klundstedtenkel 2014-04-04 16:25)

[Debra Oliver]

Thank you all for the information.  I am certain this is the correct family.  I have confirmed that Johannes Olsson left Sweden on the ship Rollo and came in to the Port of New York on the ship France.  Johannes was a shoemaker in the USA and I have his tin store sign in my possession.  I am interested in going back as far as can.  
 
I found some baptism records for Olof Svensson b 24 Dec 1807 and baptized 26 Dec 1807 in Nor.  Parents show Sven Olsson and Maria Nilsdr (Nilsdotter?).  Can you confirm accuracy or any more information?
 
I also found a baptism record for Cajsa Andersdotter b 02 Aug 1810 and baptized 03 Aug 1810 in Grava Socken.  Parents show Anders Carlsson Hertsman and Catharina Andersdr (Andersdotter?).  Can you confirm accuracy or any more information?  Also, is Hertsman a reference to his trade/occupation?
 
Thank you,  
 
Debra