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Författare Ämne: Erickson and Flodman family stories  (läst 1903 gånger)

2012-05-10, 05:37
läst 1903 gånger

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Members and friends,
 
This is a long story but a good one.  I hope you all enjoy reading it and, more importantly, I hope I can find some help and some answers.  Here is my story.  (The links will be good until they are not.)
 
At the university where I worked about 15 years ago I was discussing a Swedish Christmas party that I was planning.  A co-worker, Kelley, asked if I could trace my family all the way back to Sweden.  When I said yes she said that she should get the family records from her relatives to see if we are related.  I laughed and said Millions of Swedes came to the US back then and we are probably not related.  But, go ahead and get that information because it would be fun to find out.
 
She continued to tell me that her family settled in Holdrege, Nebraska.  I mentioned, curiously, that Holdrege was where my father was born.  She went on to say that, before Nebraska, her family first immigrated to Kane, Pennsylvania.  What!!!  Now she had mentioned two, very small, communities on two sides of the US where we both had ancestors.  She said her ancestor was John Erickson, born in Floda Socken.
 
I went back to my desk and emailed my father this funny story.  He sent right back that he had always heard that his great grandfather, Peter Flodman, came over from Sweden with the family of his school mate named John Erickson.  I told Kelley this and she immediately got in contact with her relatives to get more information.  By the way, Kelley has been calling me cousin Bill ever since.  Well, I don't know if we are related but I have always had a curiosity about this Erickson family.  A few times over the past 15 years I've researched trying to find more of the story.  I would love to figure this out.
 
Now for a few interesting facts about these two families:

    * I am not sure they came over together. In the 1900 and 1910 US census Peter answered 1871 both times for the year he came to the US.  John Erickson answered 1870 both times.  I cannot believe that they would both answer wrongly both times 10 years apart.  I am starting to believe that John Erickson came over first and that Peter joined him in Kane, PA afterwards.   The old story from my family would now be that he came over, not with but, to join the Erickson family.
 
    * 07-Jul-1871 -- Pehr Eric Johnsson (became Flodman) did board a boat in Göteborg and may have been traveling with two Ericsons from Västra Vingåker.  I'm not sure if they are the same family.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/1871-passengers.png
 
    * 19-Sep-1871 -- A Peter Flodman relative, who I met here (thanks Anbytarforum), found these Ericssons leaving Gothenburg and I found the same Ericssons arriving in NY 12-Oct-1871.  I don't know if this is the right family but very many of the names fit and some of the ages do too.  I still haven't found John Erickson, his father or older brother.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/GothenburgSwedenPassengerLists18691951_ 196536544.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/NewYorkPassengerLists18201957_290907628 .jpg
 
    * Jun-1873 -- Peter Flodman is living in Philadelphia, PA and marries Anna Christina Pehrsdottor (also from Floda).  John Erickson is living in Kane, PA.  The two live about 300 miles (482 km) from each other.
 
    * ~1879 - Peter Flodman moves to Omaha, Nebraska and John Erickson moves to Holdrege, Nebraska.  Maybe they even moved West together?  Now they lived 200 miles (321 km) from each other.
 
    * 1880 - census - Here are a few of the Erickson family in Kane, PA.  Peter Flodman is in Omaha, NE and John Erickson and his brother Axel in Holdrege, NE.  Living very close to the Erickson's, in Kane, are the parents of Peter Flodman's wife Anna: Peter and Anna Christina Olson (also from Floda).
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/1880-census-Pennsylvania-McKean-Wetmore -r1154-i664-0617.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/1880-census-Nebraska-Douglas-Omaha-0607 -r748-i128.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/1880-census-Nebraska-Phelps-Divide-0617 -r753-p775.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22614693/Flodman/1880-census-Pennsylvania-McKean-Wetmore -r1154-i665-0618.jpg
 
    * Aug-1896 - Emma Flodman, Peter's daughter marries Carl Thorson (from Torup Socken, Hallands) in Omaha.  This is how my name enters the story.
 
    * ~1913 - Bertha Flodman, Peter's youngest daughter, went from Omaha to Holdrege to visit the family of her fathers childhood friend, John Erickson, and there she met her future husband, Emil Hanson.
 
    * ~ 1920 - Paul Thorson, Carl and Emma's son, visits his aunt Bertha (Flodman) Hanson in Holdrege and meets his future bride Luella Smith.  These are my grandparents.
 
Here is more about the Ericksons.
 
    Kelly says that their family story is that the name was Ersson before they changed it to Erickson.  I am noticing that the spelling Ersson was somewhat common in Sweden but is very rare here.  I would guess that they most took the name Erickson in the USA.  
 
    The parents.  I'm not sure if they emigrated but I think they may have.  This is Kelley's note about them.
 
        Andrew Erickson (Ersson) and wife Britta Christina, they were wed in Sodermanland, Maj. Floda Soken, Sweden.  My notes say   'Changed name to Erickson' and we assumed this happened when they emigrated to the US.
 
    The children.  Kelley believes they were all born in Floda parish.  Birth dates, from a family bible, and death locations that I added
 
        Eric Albert     23 Oct 1851     Kane, Pennsylvania
        Andrew John     29 Jul 1853     Holdrege, Nebraska
        Anna Sophia     15 May 1855   (died young)
        Gustof Albert    3 Aug 1857     Kane, Pennsylvania
        Charles August  11 May 1860   (died young)
        Peter Axel      26 May 1862     Holdrege, Nebraska
        August Edward   16 May 1864     Kane, Pennsylvania
        Henry Henning    8 Oct 1866
        * much of this information came from an only family bible.  
 
I would love to find more information about this Erickson family and would appreciate any help I can get.
 
Thanks,
 
Bill Thorson

2012-05-10, 07:59
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2012-05-10, 09:38
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A first, quick look, into the birth records shows that Erik Alfred wqas born in Floda, Södermanland, on Oct 22, baptized Oct 26, 1851 to Anders Ersson and his wife Brita Stina Ersdotter.
 
Source: Floda C:6 (1848-1859) Bild 24 (AID: v55030.b24, NAD: SE/ULA/10258)

2012-05-10, 09:49
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And a look into Emibas shows the following (to start with). This is from household examniations.  Interesting is that Erik Alfred has got Oct 22 as birthday and the second brother Anders Johan, who was born July 29 according to birthbook  (source Floda C:6 (1848-1859) Bild 31 (AID: v55030.b31, NAD: SE/ULA/10258))  has got the 27.  
 
 
Post 26539
Ersson, Anders
Torpare (married man)
b. 12/18/1820 in Västra Vingåker, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1870
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 244
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1870 026
 
Post 26540
Ersson Andersson, Erik Alfred
Son (unmarried man)
b. 10/21/1851 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1870
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 244
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1870 027
 
Post 26541
Ersson Andersson, Anders Johan
Son (unmarried man)
b. 7/27/1853 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1870
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 244
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1870 028

2012-05-10, 09:56
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After the initial emigration of the father and two sons, the rest of the family stayed in Sweden untill next year, when the following family left for America. The information is from Emibas, which is a second source, so the information might be somewhat wrong (as shown in the earlier message), so it is needed to go back to the original sources to have the exact information
 
Post 26584
Ersdotter, Brita Christina
Hustru (married woman)
b. 1/16/1827 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1871
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 245
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1871 028
 
Post 26585
Ersson Andersson, Albert
Son (unmarried man)
b. 8/3/1857 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1871
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 245
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1871 029
 
Post 26586
Ersson Andersson, Per Axel
Son (unmarried man)
b. 3/26/1862 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1871
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 245
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1871 030
 
 
Post 26587
Ersson Ersson, August Edvard
Son (unmarried man)
b. 5/16/1864 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1871
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 245
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1871 031
 
 
Post 26588
Ersson Andersson, Carl Henning
Son (unmarried man)
b. 9/11/1866 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1871
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 245
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1871 032
 
Post 26589
Ersson Andersson, Adolf
Son (unmarried man)
b. 8/2/1869 in Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
Emigrated 1871
from Vattgluggen, Floda, Södermanlands län (Södermanland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 245
Emibas migration file ID: Floda D 1871 033

2012-05-10, 10:08
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The moving out book shows the the entire family on March 14, 1871, but the household examination shows 1870 for the three first emigrated and 1871 for the rest
 
Floda B:2 (1861-1875) Bild 40 (AID: v55022.b40, NAD: SE/ULA/10258)
Floda AI:16c (1866-1870) Bild 256 / sid 244 (AID: v55002.b256.s244, NAD: SE/ULA/10258)
Floda AI:17b (1871-1875) Bild 254 / sid 245 (AID: v55004.b254.s245, NAD: SE/ULA/10258)

2012-05-10, 10:16
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CD Emigranten shows the departure for Anders and his two sons on April 20, 1870   Source code 3:155.9
 
And you have found the rest of the family leaving 1871.  
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Mats 2012-05-10 10:25)
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Mats 2012-05-10 16:55)

2012-05-11, 11:36
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In the emigtation documents for the wife and children is Anna mentioned. I'm not sure who she is, she doesn't live with the family.
I need to ask, as you write that Peter marries Anna Sofia, is she later called Augusta/Augustina, cause that'swhat I read in Census 1880.

2012-05-12, 00:02
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Mats,
 
Thanks for all the help. I haven't had time to digest it yet.  I guess I wasn't quite clear in my story. The Anna, who Peter married, was from a different family who were also from Floda. Her parents, Peter and Anna Christina Olson, also immigrated to Kane, PA as shown in the last 1800 census link above.  I'm not sure what happened to Anna's mother Anna but Peter also moved to Omaha, Nebraska and is buried there.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=olson&GSfn=peter&GSby=1820 &GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=all&GSst=31&GScnty=1831&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=77274738&df=al l&
 
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2012-05-12, 05:17
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Oops! My mistake again.  Peter's wife is Augusta and her mother was Anna Christina.  Good catch Mats!
 
Peter
Augusta

2012-05-12, 08:41
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And that makes me believe that Augusta was born in Östra Vingåker. The family moved between Östra Vingåker and Floda before emigrating 1871 (Augusta) and 1872 (the family)
 
Östra Vingåker AI:14 (1871-1875) Bild 108 / sid 104 (AID: v63325.b108.s104, NAD: SE/ULA/11830)

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