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Författare Ämne: Anderson, Charles J b1871 Sweden. Emigr 1871?  (läst 2981 gånger)

2010-09-30, 23:42
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Hi--
 
I am looking for information on my grandfather, Charles J. Anderson.  Where he was born, list of siblings, name of first wife.  He was born in 1871 in Sweden.  His Father's name is Bennett Anderson and his mother's name is Nelly Anderson (maiden name - Nelson).  He emigrated to the USA in 1887. Don't know if he came alone or with family.  His first marriage was in 1900. He became a widow and married my grandmother Elin Landin in 1912.
 
He died in the US in 1949.
 
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2010-10-02, 20:35
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I have since found the first name of Charles J Anderson's  first wife.  It is Mary---married in 1900 in USA.  Would still like to find out where he was born  (1871) and the names of his siblings.   I think he had one brother named Gustaf or Gustav.  Also if he emigrated with his family in 1879 to the US or by himself.
 
Any info would be helpful.  People were so helpful with my grandmother's roots--Elin Landing/Eriksson
 
Thank you
 
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2010-10-03, 01:29
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Your first post says Charles J emigrated in 1887 and your second post says he emigrated in 1879. When did he emigrate?
 
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2010-10-03, 15:31
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Hi Judy,
 
Thanks for catching this. Charles J Anderson emigrated in 1887 when he was about 16 yrs old.  Sorry for the confusion.
 
Thanks again
 
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2010-10-03, 16:57
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have you found Charles J in census 1900, where his birth month skould be stated?

2010-10-03, 19:19
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Hi Matt,
 
No I couldn't find him in the 1900 US census.  I thought I would find something because that was the year he married his first wife, Mary, according to the 1930 US census. He was age 59 when the 1930 census was taken and, therefore he was born in 1871. .  It also has him living in Wellesley, MA with my Grandmother, Elin, his 2nd wife.  In the 1910 US census he is living in Pittston, ME with his first wife Mary and his 2 sons.  But show nothing about him in 1900.  He emigrated to US in 1887.   Trying to find where he was born in Sweden and who his siblings were?

2010-10-04, 17:02
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In census 1910 it is written that they have been married for 8 years, that Charles came to US 1890, so it seems to differ between different census

2010-10-04, 18:12
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Do you know if the first wife was Mary Lindgren?
 
A Charles I Anderson and Mary Lindgren gets a son, Carl I Anderson in  Boston in 1904.  Have you followed the boys in iorder to find their birth date?

2010-10-04, 20:31
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Hi Mats  
 
You're right...n 1930 US Census it show Charles J first married when he was 29, which would have been in 1900.  Also it says that he emigrated to US in 1887
 
In the 1910 US Census it has him being married only 8 years. Do you think those are really 8's...its not clear on my computer screen.
 
 I have copy of his Naturalization papers and it is dated 10/1/1900.  Is emigration and naturalization two different things?  The Naturalization paperwork shows that he was born Sept 22, 1871 in Joukoping, Sweden.  
 
I have info on Harry. He was born in Maine on June 19, 1909 and Carl Ivar was born around 1905/1906 ( I thought)  in Mass.   I can find death and census info on Harry (Harold) but can't find the same info on Carl.  He was mostly known as Ivar.  His first wife was Alice had daughter Carleen and son Carl  Carl dies when teenager.  He divorced and married Dorothy.  Carl (Ivar) travelled alot in his younger days before he married.  Went out to California. After he was married he spent the rest of his life in Mass.  
 
The middle initial of Charles is suppose to be J but I'm sure that got changed a lot depending on the handwriting. For now just know that Charles wife's name is Mary.  
 
Thanks for taking up this challenge
 
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2010-10-04, 20:49
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Hi Mats,
 
I think you are right about Mary Lindgren, Carl I anderson 1904--Boston.
 
I just searched for info for Carl I using the birth year 1904....and his birth & death info showed up.  Itgavehis birthdate as Dec 29,1904! The town where he died is correct and the year of death is in the right time period.  And in 1900 the Naturalization paperwork gave Charles J's address as 45l Broadway, South Boston, MA.  This looks very hopeful!
 
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2010-10-05, 13:50
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The Naturalization document, does it sy when he immigrated and gives the ship's name?
 
Or is it an index card, with few information lines
 
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Mats

2010-10-05, 14:27
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Could this be the man, from Jönköping Genealogical Society CD, he is the only person born that date with a name that fits, in the Jönköping area, the names of the parents do not fit with the data given above:
 
 
 
Karl Johan
Född 22/9 1871 i Dalen, Gustav Adolf (Skaraborgs län)(Wrong should be Abbarp)
 
Far
Andersson, Sven August
Arbetskarl
 
Mor
Petersdotter, Charlotta (her name in the parish register is Främberg)
28 år
 
Övriga uppgifter
Församlingskod: VALA/03255
--------------
Källa: Födelseböckerna
 
The family moves to Södra Foglås in 1874, I have not found them in the 1880 census. Probably, they lost their farm after the big famine in 1868-69.
Gustav Adolf AI:7 (1867-1875) Bild 276 / sid 271 (AID: v20046.b276.s271, NAD: SE/VALA/03255)
 
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2010-10-05, 14:56
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Found them in 1880, in Korsberga. And again in 1890 in Fröjered. So it is not the right person!

2010-10-05, 20:04
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Hi Mats...
 
The Naturalization card was just an index card....no name of ship.  There is a possibility he was on the Marsdin ship going to Hull, England as Carl J andersson.  Someone mentioned that Charles was another name for Carl??  I think the ship left in June 1, 1888.  But it has his birthday in 1869.  The dates are a bit off....don't know if this is right.
 
Bummer about the above info....but its a hit and miss discovery.  Kind of intriguing.
 
Thanks
 
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2010-10-05, 22:05
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There is one on the cd Emibas från Värnamo in Jönköping county (which is a parish in the county not transcribed on the cd Chris mentions), with the right birth date but other things don't match
 
Post 213041
Danielsson, Carl Johan Alfred
Dräng (unmarried man)
b. 9/22/1871 in Värnamo, Jönköpings län (Småland)
Emigrated 3/15/1888
from Hindsekind Båtstad, Värnamo, Jönköpings län (Småland)
to Amerika
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Värnamo F 1888 006
 
And there are 55 Carl Johan born i 1871 living in Jönköping county in 1880 ...
 
Hälsningar,
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2010-10-05, 22:11
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Debbie, the naturalization is when he beaame a citizen, it has noting to do with the immediate immigration to US/emigration from Sweden.  
 
You normally had to have been in the US for 1-2 yrs before you could declare your intention to become a citizen, then 3 more years had to pass.
 
The cd Emibas only covers ca 75 % of the emigrants before 1900 - but I must say that the alleged names of the parents - Bennet should be Bengt I guess, and Nelly sounds southern sweden to me.
 
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2010-10-06, 21:31
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If you can get hold of the original petition, you can see when this Charles J came.  
I guess he used Carl/Karl in Sweden, but it might have been another name

2010-10-07, 01:30
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Hi Mats  
 
What do you mean by the original petition ?   What kind of document are you referring to? Or are you speaking to Eva?
 
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2010-10-07, 17:26
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Hi Debbie, he means your grandfather's petition for naturalization, you should be able to get it from the National Archives (NARA).  The one my grandfather submitted in 1904 gave his date and place of birth, and date and place of arrival in the US.  http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/naturalization/

2010-10-08, 01:23
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Debbie,
 
Naturalization records after the end of 1906 are quite informative but before that time, the information provided in those records varied greatly, depending upon where the person naturalized. Carl Wolf was lucky. You may or may not be. Records such as these in Chicago told that the person was Swedish, which we already knew. They weren't informative until the end of 1906 and later. After that, they were very informative.
 
http://blogs.archives.gov/online-public-access/?p=2684
 
Many of us have found a parish of birth and much more by using an archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center. The Swenson Center has a website (Google it.) but its extensive collection of records is NOT online. We need to go there to research or pay them to research for us. They have records which are difficult or even impossible to find elsewhere. Many of us have been helped there.
 
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2010-10-11, 05:25
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Hi Judy and Carl,  
 
I have located a NARA office in a town not too far from me.  I will have to make a trip over there to look up the petition for Charles' naturalization.  
 
Mats,
 
Did you find anything else about the Charles I Anderson and wife Mary Lindgren who had a son Carl I Anderson in 1904?  That may be my grandfather. It matches my research on their son Carl (my Uncle).  My uncle was born in 1904 and lived in Boston with his family.
 
 
How do I  find out more about Charles (Carl) Anderson in Sweden. I have his date of birth--09/22/1871 in Jonkoping, Sweden.  This was written on his Naturalization index card dated 10/01/1900.  He came to US in 1887, this info came from the US 1930 Census.  ......his parents names......Bennett Anderson and Nellie Nelson. This info was from his marriage record when he married my grandmother in 1912.   He has a brother named Gustav of Gustaf.  Wanted to know if he had any other brothers or sisters
 
Thanks
 
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2010-10-11, 07:14
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Maybe the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center can help you find Charles I. Anderson. The Swenson Center has a website (Google it.) but its extensive collection of records is NOT online. We need to go there to research or pay them to research for us. They have records which are difficult or even impossible to find elsewhere. Many of us have found the parish of origin and much more, using that archive's services.
 
Judy

2010-10-11, 14:16
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I can't see that it is absolutely clear that the man, born in Jönköping, is the same man as Charles J in 1930. When I look through what has been written, several have searched for him but the right combination (born/emigrated) doesn't seem to fit anyone.
 
It is therefore interesting to see if the petition has information about immigration year.
 
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2010-10-11, 16:16
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okay, then I will let you know what I find about his petition at the NARA office .
 
Thank you all soooo much!!!!
 
Debbie

2010-10-11, 17:23
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Hi Debbie, this I think is the record about Carl I Anderson that Mats was referring to.
 
Name: Carl Iver Anderson
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1904
Birthplace: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Father's Name: Carl J. Anderson
Mother's Name: Mary Lindgren
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I00865-1
System Origin: Massachusetts-EASy
Source Film Number: 740456
Collection: Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915
 
And this is the record for Carl and Mary's marriage, it gives some different information about his parents' names.
 
Groom's Name: Carl Anderson
Groom's Birth Date: 1869
Groom's Birthplace: Sweden
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Mary Lindgren
Bride's Birth Date: 1870
Bride's Birthplace: Sweden
Bride's Age: 30
Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1900
Marriage Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Groom's Father's Name: Bengt Anderson
Groom's Mother's Name: Agneta Nilson
Bride's Father's Name: Lars Lindgren
Bride's Mother's Name: Bertha Lindgren
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02748-4
System Origin: Massachusetts-EASy
Source Film Number: 1843725
Reference Number: pg260, it4668
Collection: Massachusetts Marriages, 1695-1910

2010-10-13, 05:19
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Thanks Carl,
 
This looks like its my uncle and grandfather with his first marriage.  When I get the petition info for his naturalization I will post it and see where I go from there.
 
Thanks
 
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2010-11-04, 03:20
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Hi
 
I just received a copy of my grandfather's (Charles J Anderson)  petition to be Naturalized from the National Archives and Records Assoc.   There wasn't too much new info.  It confirmed the date of his birth; Sept 22, 1871 in Jonkoping, Sweden.  He arrived in Boston, MA on April 2,1888 and petitioned to become a citizen on  August 17, 1892 at the First District Court of Northern Worcester, MA.  On October 1, 1900 Charles J Anderson became a citizen of us at the US Circuit Court in Boston, MA.
 
Does any of the above info help to find out what ship he took to Boston, MA and who his family was?
 
thank you
 
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2010-11-04, 16:24
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Hi Debbie, the SS Pavonia docked in Boston on 2 April 1888, there are several Carl Anderson's who were on board but I don't see any who were the correct age, though it's possible he might have told them he was older than 16. The ship's manifest doesn't give very much information, just the name, age, country of citizenship, occupation, and destination in the US.

2012-01-02, 07:28
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2022-12-02, 14:00
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Hi Debbie
It is a long time ago that you wrote this post and maybe you have been updated many years ago.

From what I can find Karl Julius Andersson (Charles J Anderson) was born in Gothenburg 2 October 1869 (See Göteborgs Domkyrkoförsamling C:12 picture 345) His father was Bengt Andersson and his mother was Agneta (Neta) Nilsdotter.

When Karls sister died in 1959 all the three children (Carl Ivar, Harry (Harold) and Stella are mentioned as heirs since their father Carl had died.

I am a bit confused where you got the birth date 22 September 1871 from and the place Jönköping?

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