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Författare Ämne: Edlund & Borjeson families  (läst 1659 gånger)

2010-05-21, 23:57
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I am trying to do a family tree as a wedding present for my daughter.  Running out of time.
I need to find information on two people.  I would like to confirm their birth year and get their parents names and birth and death years.
 
The two people are:
 
Mathilda Gerda Borjeson  Birth:  1872  Emigration Log for July 18991 shows her place of origin as: Grimstad Vastra Gotaland Lan
 
Johan Arvid Edlund  Birth abt 1867  Emigration log for May 1889 shows his palce of origin as: Husby Dalarna Lan.  I did find another document in the US that showed his DOB as 1869 but I think that is a typo.
 
Any leads or suggested search places would be greatly appreciated.  
 
Thank you
 
Judge Bob Moss

2010-05-22, 01:55
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How much time do you have before the wedding? I hope it is not tomorrow. How desperate is your lack of time?
 
I have no idea about the year she left because you made a typo. What year is 18991? Is it 1899? Is it 1891? Is it something else?)
 
 
Grinstad is a parish in the former Älvsborg county (now part of Västra Götaland county) and records were kept in the parish. (I don't know of a Grimstad.)
 
Emibas CD:
 
Emibas was made from registrations in the Swedish parish to go to a foreign country. It is about 75% complete.
 
Post 929530
 
Edlund, Johan Arvid
Unmarried man
 
b. 2/8/1867 in Husby, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
 
Emigrated 4/11/1889
from Långshyttan Bruket, Husby, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Nordamerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 38
 
Emibas migration file ID: Husby W 1889 013
 
Husby is the parish name. The old county name was Kopparberg and the province name (now and before) is Dalarna. In modern times, Dalarna is also the county name.
 
Here is that man on the Emihamn database.
 
First name: JOHAN ARVID
Last name: EDLUND
Age: 22     Gender: M
Parish: HUSBY     County: W (Kopparberg)
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1889 05 03 (May 3)
Destination: WORCESTER MAS
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 38:590:476
 
 
This woman is the closest I can find to your Mathilda Gerda Borjeson but I don't know if this person left in that mysterious year of 18991. She did register to leave her parish in July.
 
The parish for this woman is Halmstad in Halland county. (The parish and county don't match your information, however.) Emibas is about 75% complete.
 
Post 12062
 
Börjesson Höök, Gerda Matilda
Hemmadotter = daughter living at home. (unmarried woman)
 
b. 12/2/1871 in Halmstad, Hallands län (Halland)
 
Emigrated 7/6/1892
from Slottsmöllan, Halmstad, Hallands län (Halland)
to USA
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, vol. Halmstad AI:47, p. 1528; Migration Roll, vol. Halmstad B:6
 
Emibas migration file ID: Halmstad N 1892 141
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Country of destination: Usa
 
This seems to be the records you saw. This is from the Emihamn database, made from registrations with Swedish port police before leaving Sweden, but not all Swedes left through a Swedish port. (The parish should be Grinstad, however.)
 
First name: MATHILDA
Last name: BÖRJESON
Age: 19     Gender: K
Parish: GRIMSTAD (Grinstad???)   County: P (Älvsborg)
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1891 07 08 (July 8)
Destination: CHICAGO
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 46:20:6576
 
I don't see anyone with this name leaving from Grinstad parish in 1891, using Emibas.
 
1880 Swedish Census:
 
http://www.svar.ra.se (subscription)
 
Homeparish:    Husby
Residence:    Långshytte Bruk
County:    Kopparberg
Page:    74  
Row:    40  
 
 
Anders Gustaf Edlund, b. 1841 in Torsåker Gävleborgs län, Klensmed
 
wife Greta Stina Larsdotter, b. 1836 in Torsåker Gävleborgs län
 
Carl Erik, b. 1862 in Torsåker Gävleborgs län
Anders Gustaf, b. 1864 in Torsåker Gävleborgs län
Johan Arvid, b. 1867 in Husby Kopparbergs län
Beda Christina, b. 1870 in Husby Kopparbergs län
Anna Ottilia, b. 1873 in Husby Kopparbergs län
Johanna Victoria, b. 1875 in Husby Kopparbergs län
Knut Henrik, b. 1879 in Husby Kopparbergs län
 
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2010-05-22, 09:18
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Do you have more information from the US about them? Where they lived, were these two a married couple later? It would be easier to confirm their identities if we had more data, there are several people with these names.
 
As you indicate, there are actually two Johan A Edlund in the passenger lists for NY, one born 1867, arriving 1889, one born about 1869 arriving 1892.
 
The Matilda Börjesson leaving in 1891, from Grinstad, is actually named Matilda Rosalia Börjesson, born 14 March 1872, daughter of lighthouse master Johannes Börjesson, according to the household census.
 
 
 
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2010-05-23, 07:55
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They did marry in the U.S. and lived in Cortland, New York

2010-05-23, 20:25
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1920 U.S. Federal Census (as transcribed on Ancestry.com; more is on the actual record)
 
Is this the family? Note that the 1920 U.S. Federal Census was enumerated in January, so ages are probably the age they were in January of 1920, even if they had a birthday in February or another early month in the year.
 
Household Members:  
    
Name    Age
 
John A Edlund    51
Matilda G Edlund    48
Carl A Edlund    24
Christine Edlund    23
Jenevieve Edlund    19
Gustaf Edlund    17
Elsie G Edlund    15
John Edlund    3
[3 2/12
 
Source Citation:  Year: 1920;Census Place: Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York; Roll  T625_1096; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 284.
 
Name:     John A Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    51
Estimated birth year:    abt 1869
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Self (Head)
[Head]  
Spouse's name:    Matilda G
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Sex:    Male
Home owned:    Own
Year of Immigration:    1889
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     Matilda G Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    48
Estimated birth year:    abt 1872
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Wife
Spouse's name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Sex:    Female
Year of Immigration:    1893
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     Carl A Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    24
Estimated birth year:    abt 1896
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Matilda G
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Sex:    Male
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     Christine Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    23
Estimated birth year:    abt 1897
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Matilda G
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Sex:    Female
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     Jenevieve Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    19
Estimated birth year:    abt 1901
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Matilda G
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Sex:    Female
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     Gustaf Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    17
Estimated birth year:    abt 1903
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Matilda G
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Sex:    Male
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     Elsie G Edlund
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    15
Estimated birth year:    abt 1905
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Matilda G
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Sex:    Female
Able to read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
 
Name:     John Edlund Jr.
Home in 1920:    Cortland Ward 6, Cortland, New York
Age:    3
[3 2/12]  
Estimated birth year:    abt 1917
[abt 1916]  
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John A
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Matilda G
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Sex:    Male
 
1930 U.S. Federal Census:
 
Household Members:  
    
Name    Age
 
John A Edlund    63
Gerda M Edlund    58
Genevieve O Edlund    30
John A Edlund    13
 
Source Citation:  Year: 1930; Census Place: Cortland, Cortland, New York; Roll  1418; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 3; Image: 258.0.
 
Name:     John A Edlund
Home in 1930:    Cortland, Cortland, New York
Age:    63
Estimated birth year:    abt 1867
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Spouse's name:    Gerda M
Race:    White
 
Name:     Gerda M Edlund
Home in 1930:    Cortland, Cortland, New York
Age:    58
Estimated birth year:    abt 1872
Relation to Head of House:    Wife
Spouse's name:    John A
Race:    White
 
Name:     Genevieve O Edlund
Home in 1930:    Cortland, Cortland, New York
Age:    30
Estimated birth year:    abt 1900
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John A
Mother's Name:    Gerda M
Race:    White
 
Name:     John A Edlund
Home in 1930:    Cortland, Cortland, New York
Age:    13
Estimated birth year:    abt 1917
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John A
Mother's Name:    Gerda M
Race:    White
 
There are censuses in New York state for more than the typical years of 1900-1910-1920-1930. There were state censuses also. For example, look for state censuses in New York in 1892, 1905, 1915, and 1925. Get as much information as you can, because U.S. censuses are not known for complete accuracy.
 
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2010-05-23, 20:46
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I think this is the same family in the 1910 U.S. Federal Census.
 
Household Members:  
    
Name    Age
 
John Edlund    42
Gertrude Edlund    38
Carl A Edlund    15
Christine E Edlund    13
Henry Edlund    12
Genevieve Edlund    10
Augustave Edlund    7
Alice G Edlund    6
 
Name:     John Edlund
Age in 1910:    42
Estimated birth year:    abt 1868
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Spouse's name:    Gertrude
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Year of Immigration:    1887
 
Name:     Gertrude Edlund
Age in 1910:    38
Estimated birth year:    abt 1872
Birthplace:    Sweden
Relation to Head of House:    Wife
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Spouse's name:    John
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Year of Immigration:    1891
 
Name:     Carl A Edlund
Age in 1910:    15
Estimated birth year:    abt 1895
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Gertrude
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
 
Name:     Christine E Edlund
Age in 1910:    13
Estimated birth year:    abt 1897
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Gertrude
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
 
Name:     Henry Edlund
Age in 1910:    12
Estimated birth year:    abt 1898
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Gertrude
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
 
Name:     Genevieve Edlund
Age in 1910:    10
Estimated birth year:    abt 1900
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Gertrude
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
 
Name:     Augustave Edlund
Age in 1910:    7
Estimated birth year:    abt 1903
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Son
Father's Name:    John
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Gertrude
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
 
Name:     Alice G Edlund
Age in 1910:    6
Estimated birth year:    abt 1904
Birthplace:    New York
Relation to Head of House:    Daughter
Father's Name:    John
Father's Birth Place:    Sweden
Mother's Name:    Gertrude
Mother's Birth Place:    Sweden
Home in 1910:    Syracuse Ward 13, Onondaga, New York
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
 
The actual record is more detailed than the transcription. For example, the parents had been married 16 years. The mother had had six children and all six were still living.
 
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2010-05-23, 21:12
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I am having trouble finding them in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census. Perhaps someone else will have better luck. If you have found them, please provide that information. (That census provides a month and year of birth, for example, so it is often very helpful.)
 
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2010-05-23, 21:23
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1900 census, Onondaga, NY, wrongly transcribed
 
Arvid Adlund 33 feb 1867
Matilda Adlund 28 dec 1871, imm 1892
Carl Adlund 5  
Christina Adlund 3  
Henry Adlund 2  
Geneveva Adlund 2/12

2010-05-23, 21:25
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So the person you found above is probably John Arvid Edlund:
Post 929530
 
Edlund, Johan Arvid
Unmarried man
 
b. 2/8/1867 in Husby, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
 
Emigrated 4/11/1889
from Långshyttan Bruket, Husby, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Nordamerika
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 38
 
Emibas migration file ID: Husby W 1889 013
 
 
 
And the earlier mentioned Gerda Matilda:
Post 12062
 
Börjesson Höök, Gerda Matilda
Hemmadotter (unmarried woman)
 
b. 12/2/1871 in Halmstad, Hallands län (Halland)
 
Emigrated 7/6/1892
from Slottsmöllan, Halmstad, Hallands län (Halland)
to USA
 
Source: Household Examination Roll, vol. Halmstad AI:47, p. 1528; Migration Roll, vol. Halmstad B:6
 
Emibas migration file ID: Halmstad N 1892 141
 
Un-normalized versions:
 
Country of destination: Usa
 
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2010-05-23, 21:31
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Gerda´s family 1890 census, Halmstad:
Börjesson Höök, Kristian   1842   Far
Svensdotter, Kristina   1835   Mor
(Barn), Karl Johan Birger   1868   Barn
(Barn), Gerda Matilda   1871   Barn
(Barn), Ida Kristina   1882   Barn
 
The father is a smith´s helper, born in Halmstad, mother born in Reftele, Jönköping County
 
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2010-05-23, 21:59
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1900 Swedish Census CD:
 
Börjesson Höök, Kristian   1842   Father
Svensdr (Svensdotter), Kristina   1835   Mother
(Barn), Ida Krist:a (Kristina)   1882   Child
 
Record 1225266
 
Börjesson Höök, Kristian
Smeddräng = blacksmith's helper
 
b. 1842 in Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Man, married, father
 
Slottsmöllan
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Halmstads
 
Record 1225265
 
Svensdr, Kristina
 
b. 1835 in Reftele (Jönköpings län, Småland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Slottsmöllan
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Refteled
 
Record 1225264
 
Ida Krist:a
 
b. 1882 in Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Slottsmöllan
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Halmstads
 
 
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2010-05-23, 22:03
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1880 Swedish Census:
 
http://www.svar.ra.se (subscription site)
 
Homeparish:    Halmstads moder
Residence:    Slottsmöllan B
County:    Halland
Page:    150  
Row:    24  
 
 
Christian Börjesson Hök, b. 1842 in Halmstad Hallands län, Smedsdräng
 
wife Christina Svensdotter, b. 1835 in Reftele Jönköpings län
 
Carl Johan Birger, b. 1868 in Halmstad Hallands län
 
Gerda Mathilda, b. 1871 in Halmstad Hallands län
 
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2010-05-23, 22:10
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1900 Swedish Census CD:
 
Edlund, Anders Gustaf   1841   Father
Larsdotter, Greta Stina   1836   Mother
(Barn), Knut Henrik   1879   Child
(Barn), Alfrida Viktoria   1882   Child
 
Record 2926256
 
Edlund, Anders Gustaf
Verkstadsförman
 
b. 1841 in Torsåker (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland)
 
Man, married, father
 
Långshytte bruk
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Torsåker Gefl. l.
 
Record 2926255
 
Larsdotter, Greta Stina
 
b. 1836 in Torsåker (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Långshytte bruk
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Torsåker Gefl. l.
 
 
Record 2926254
 
Knut Henrik
Järnarbetare
 
b. 1879 in Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
s.
Boy, child
 
Långshytte bruk
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Husby
 
 
Record 2926253
 
Alfrida Viktoria
 
b. 1882 in Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Långshytte bruk
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Husby
 
 
1890 Swedish Census CD:
 
Edlund, Anders Gustaf   1841   F
Larsdr, Greta Stina   1836   M
(Barn), Knut Henrik   1879   Ch
(Barn), Alfrida Viktoria   1882   Ch
 
 
Post 3926729
 
Edlund, Anders Gustaf
Klensmed
 
b. 1841 i Torsåker (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland)
 
Man, married (father)
 
Långshytte by och bruk Köpingslikt område
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Torsåker
 
Post 3926730
 
Larsdr, Greta Stina
 
b. 1836 i Torsåker (Gävleborgs län, Gästrikland)
 
h.
Woman, married (mother)
 
Långshytte by och bruk Köpingslikt område
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Torsåker
 
 
Post 3926732
 
Knut Henrik
 
b. 1879 i Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
s.
Boy (child)
 
Långshytte by och bruk Köpingslikt område
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Husby
 
 
Post 3926731
 
Alfrida Viktoria
 
b. 1882 i Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Långshytte by och bruk Köpingslikt område
Husby (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
 
Place of birth (original source): Husby
 
 
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