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Författare Ämne: Axel Johanson  (läst 1128 gånger)

2008-08-03, 01:13
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I want to learn about my wife’s ancestors.  They came to America from Sweden.  Can someone help me?
 
What I know is:
 
Gumme Anderson and Maria Andersdotter had a son named Johan Petter Gummeson, born 17 April 1823 in Langasjo, Kronoberg, Smaland, Sweden.
Johan Gummeson married Gertrud Hanson.  She was born 18 May 1815 in Tving, Blekinge, Sweden.
They had a son  Johan August Johanson, born 4 August 1850, in Hjortsberga, Blekinge, Sweden,  He married Johanna Anderson (Andersdotter?).
They had a son named Axel Frederick Hjalmer Johanson who was born in Karlskrona, Blekinge, Sweden.  He came to America around 1891 with his sister Augusta Johanson.
 
What type of work did these people do?
Is it possible to find who Gumme Anderson’s parents were?

2008-08-03, 17:07
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From Swedish Census 1890
 
 
Post 1748251
 
Johansson, Johan Aug.
Bagaregesäll= journeyman, bakery
 
f. / b. 1850 i Hjortsberga (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Gift man, far i familjen= married man, father
 
Moo.  (= place name)
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)  Rödeby is the parish, Blekinge county.  
 
Födelseort i källan: Hjortsberg Bl. l.
 
Post 1748252
 
Andersdtr., Johanna
 
f. 1846 i Hjortsberga (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
h.
Gift kvinna, mor i familjen=married woman, mother
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Hjortsberg Bl. l.
 
children:
 
Post 1748253
 
Augusta Maria
 
f. 1874 i Karlskrona (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
d.
Ogift kvinna, barn i familjen= unmarried woman, child
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Carlskrona
 
Post 1748255
 
Gertrud Johanna
 
f. 1876 i Torsås (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
d.
Flicka, barn i familjen= girl, child
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Torsås Kalm. l.
 
 
Post 1748256
 
Axel Fredrik
 
f. 1878 i Karlskrona (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
s.
Pojke, barn i familjen= boy, child
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Carlskrona
 
 
Post 1748257
 
Johan Alfrid
 
f. 1882 i Vissefjärda (Kalmar län, Småland)
 
s.
Pojke, barn i familjen= boy, child
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Vissefjerda Kalm.
 
 
Post 1748254
 
Ebba Hildegard
 
f. 1888 i Fridlevstad (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
d.
Flicka, barn i familjen
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Fridlefstad Bl. l.
 
 
CENSUS 1900
 
 
Record 467612
 
Johansson, Johan August
Bagaregesäll==JOURNEYMAN, BAKERY
 
b. 1850 in Hjortsberga (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Man, married, father
 
Mormon
 
Moo
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Place of birth (original source): Hjortsberga Blekinge län
 
 
Record 467611
 
Andersdotter, Johanna
 
b. 1846 in Hjortsberga (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
h.
Woman, married, mother
 
Mormon
 
Moo
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Place of birth (original source): Hjortsberga Blekinge län
 
 
Record 467609
 
Ebba Hildegard Cecilia
 
b. 1888 in Fridlevstad (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
d.
Girl, child
 
Moo
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Place of birth (original source): Fridlevstad Blekinge län
 
 
Post 1748254
 
Ebba Hildegard
 
f. 1888 i Fridlevstad (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
d.
Flicka, barn i familjen
 
Moo.
Rödeby (Blekinge län, Blekinge)
 
Födelseort i källan: Fridlefstad Bl. l.
 
 
Will revert on Gumme Andersson.
 
 
//Bo

2008-08-03, 17:40
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Gumme Andersson was born 1794, 26 July in Ljuder, Kronoberg county
 
Gumme was christened as Gudmund, Gumme is short for Gudmund
 
Anders Gummesson was his father,
his mother was Britta Gummesdotter,  
 
source:  GID  446.20.81300,  [Kronoberg]  Ljuder,  C.4, Födde,Vigsel,Död, 1756 - 1830, 0-247,  Bild 139 av 428    
 
Sorry I haven´t time enough to browse the clerical surveys in order to find more about Anders Gummeson. There is no place index in the clerical survey for Ljuder at the time of Gumme's birth.

2008-08-03, 17:42
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Bo Nordenfors:  Thank you so much for your rapid reply with the valuable information.  It will help to broaden my view of those  people.  I'm looking forward to hearing what you find on Gumme Andersson.

2008-08-03, 17:55
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I happened to find Anders Gummesson and his wife in clerical survey for Ljuder voluem AI:5 pg 217, GID 446.3.11800
 
Anders Gummesson was born 1768,probably August 1, his wife 1766 probably 11 August.
 
No places of birth given, though.

2008-08-03, 18:35
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I've found them in Ljuder AI:5 p. 11, GID 446.3.1100, arriving from Nottebäck(?) in 1793. They can also be found in the same volume on page 217 (as Bo mentioned) and on page 385. Anders was born 1 August 1768 and Brita 31 August 1766.  
 
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2008-08-03, 19:40
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The DISBYT database /members only/ has Anders born in Nöbbele, Kronoberg county and his wife in Backa, Göteborg´s and Bohus county.
As the submitter of that information has no e-mail and no phone nbr I can´t reach him. Anders father came from Linneryd, Kronoberg´s county..
Perhaps someone with the Kronoberg CD can help you out with Anders.

2008-08-03, 19:52
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Yes, I just found them married i Nöbbele 26 July 1791, Nöbbele C:2 p.15 GID 458.29.1300.
 
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2008-08-03, 23:35
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The farmhand Anders Gummesson married the widow Brita Gummesdotter,place name appears to be Kåramåla. Source as above.

2008-08-04, 01:36
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The amount of information you have found on my wife's family is amazing and satifying.  Thank you.  
Is it possible to find the occupation of Gumme Anderson and Johan Gummesson?

2008-08-04, 16:42
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Hello Philip and Bo!
 
The record that Bo found in the DISBYT database, saying Britta was born i Backa parish in Göteborg´s and Bohus county, is not correct! She was born in Backa village in Ljuder parish. (There are other records in the database saying she was born in Ljuder, posted by the same person)
The following is what I've found and I give all the sources if someone wants to check my data.
 
Britta Gummesdotter
Born 31 August 1766 in Backa village, Ljuder parish, Kronoberg county. Source: [1]
Father: Gumme Persson (b. 1723). Mother: Ingeborg Gertonsdotter (b. 1732). [9, 10]
Married 1:o 28 March 1785 in Ljuder to farmhand Magnus Svensson (b. Feb. 1755) in Bogsjö Östergård. [2]  
The daughter Ingeborg was born 2 August 1788 in Bogsjö Östergård. [3]
Widow 8 November 1789. [4]  
Married 2:o 26 July 1791 in Nöbbele parish to farmhand Anders Gummesson.  Kåramåla, Nöbbele. [5]
Moved to Kallnäs, Ljuder in 1793. [6]
Widow 27 January 1803. [7]  
Died 24 December 1851 in Bogsjö Östergård, Ljuder. [8]
 
Sources:
[1] Ljuder C:4, p. 113; GID 446.20.74400; SVAR C0024915_00073. (Very hard-to-read page, confirmed by sources 9 and 10).
[2] Ljuder C:4, p. 33; GID 446.20.70000; SVAR C0024915_00029
[3] Ljuder C:4, p. 221; GID 446.20.80000; SVAR C0024915_00129
[4] Ljuder C:4, p. 636; GID 446.20.101800; SVAR C0024915_00347
[5] Nöbbele C:2, p. 15; GID 458.29.1300; SVAR C0025111_00016
[6] Ljuder AI:5 p. 10; GID 446.3.1100; SVAR C0024898_00014
[7] Ljuder C:4, p.659. GID 446.20.102900; SVAR C0024915_00358
[8] Ljuder F:1 p. 88; GID 446.25.102600; SVAR C0024920_00054
[9] Ljuder AI:3, p. 426; GID 446.38.79800; SVAR C0024896_00224  
[10] Ljuder C:4, p. 143 (20 Feb.); GID 446.20.76000; SVAR C0024915_00089 (birth of younger brother Israël)
 
Anders Gummesson is more difficult. The books of Ljuder say that he was born 1 August 1768 but I have not found any record of that anywhere. However, a record that Bo found in the DISBYT database says he was born in Nöbbele and I have found one Anders Gummesson born there 12 March 1769, in Kåramåla(!). (GID 458.28.100700).  I will continue my search.
 
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2008-08-04, 17:46
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DISBYT database is a second source and unfortunately mistakes have been done. Therefore, always check original source.

2008-08-14, 03:36
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Who were Anders Gummesson's children by his wife Britta?

2008-08-18, 18:44
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Hello Phil!
 
Sorry, I forgot to post that information!
But here it is:
 
Anders Gummesson, b. 3/14 1769 in Kåramåla, Nöbbele, d. 1/27 1803 in Bogsjö Östergård, Ljuder  
Britta Gummesdotter, b. 8/31 1766 in Backa, Ljuder, d. 12/24 1851 in Bogsjö Östergård, Ljuder
Children:
d. Ingeborg Magnusdotter, b. 8/2 1788 in Bogsjö Östergård, Ljuder. (Britta's daughter in her first marriage).
d. Kerstin, b. 4/23 1792 in Kåramåla, Nöbbele.
s. Gumme, b. 7/26 1794 in Kallnäs, Ljuder
d. Maria, b. 5/20 1796 in Kallnäs, Ljuder  
s. Per, b. 11/10 1798 in Kallnäs, Ljuder
 
I believe that Anders' birth date given here is correct. The first date, 1 August 1768 is, I think, a misunderstanding and misreading. On one occasion he is even given Britta's birth date, 31 August 1766. And when he dies in 1803 his age is said to be 34 which also gives the birth year 1769.
 
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2008-08-19, 07:36
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Once again your information is very helpful.  Thanks you for all you have done for our family.
 
Phillip Leonard

2008-08-21, 21:40
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Is there any way to determine the date in 1891 when Augusta Maria Johansson and Axel Johansson left Sweden to come to America?  Also, Axel started calling himself Karl Frederick Johanson when he arrived in USA.  Is Karl a nickname for Axel?

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