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Författare Ämne: von Vegesack, Emil Edward (1831-1867?) Australia  (läst 1053 gånger)

2008-10-02, 09:19
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Robert Orsted-Jensen

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Emil Edward von VEGESACK, was a Swede born about 1831, and he appears in the list of naturalisations in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia in 1859 and it is stated that he had arrived that year on board a ship named 'Prince Alfred'. Yet there is no informa-tion about his occupation.
 
Then in about August 1867 a fellow, quite possibly the same man, was murdered or killed in a terrible skirmish with Melanesian islanders. The entire crew on a Sydney registered schooner was wiped out, along them was a fellow referred to as 'Mr Vizsach, chief officer' - he was in other word the ships first mate. This all took place in the Solomon islands where they had gone to trade for tortoiseshell and it was from the description a pretty awful affair with strangulations, brain matter and blood found everywhere on the deck afterwards, and some terrible retribution took place later which no doubt wiped out quite a few islanders.
 
We find some more information 3 years later, but then his name was written as Vgesk, and not atypically for this period in Australian history, it was said that he was a Dane. I went for that initially not knowing about Emil above. I thus tried in Den-mark but all to no avail, and it was then I ran into the fellow mentioned above. The more I looked at his name the more I suspect that our Dane was indeed a Swede, with a - if I may say so - rather unusual surname for a good old Viking.
 
Does anyone in Sweden know about a Von VEGESACK family? And has anyone heard of this long lost poor devil here - Emil Edward von VEGESACK? If indeed he was our mariner here, he was thus once twice awarded for his bravery.

2008-10-02, 09:43
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von Vegesack is indeed a Swedish noble family. I hope someone with the Elgenstierna books on the genealogy of the noble families will answer here. The name also exists in Germany and the Baltic states.

2008-10-02, 10:31
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From the Elgenstierna books on the Swedish nobility:
 
The baronial family of von Vegesack (#379)
 
Emil Carlheim Cyrus, född 1831-09-12 på Hallgårds i Alskogs socken på
Gotland. Anställd i handelsflottan (in the merchant navy). Död i Australien.
 
This Emil is the only possibility, and his fate seems to be unknown in Sweden, just that he died in Australia. He was one of many children to the baron Eberhard Ferdinand Emil von Vegesack (1794-1855) and his wife Ulrika Christina Sofia Lythberg (1799-  ).  
 
Emil's older brother, Ernst, (1820-1903) fought in the American Civil War and finaly was made a Brigadier General (brigadgeneral), and then came home and had a good military career in the Swedish army as well, and became colonel of the Hälsinge Regiment, Member of Parliament etc.
 
Another brother, Johan Gustaf Braf Eugen (b. 1829), fought in the Danish army in 1849 against the German army, and later immigrated to South America.
 
A sister, Anna Susanna Gunilla Emilia, (1825-1904) immigrated after her husband's death to the U.S. and became a doctor of medicine in 1873 in Michigan. Her husband was Peter Bruno Spörck (d. 1869) a sea captain.
 
Seems to have been an adventurous family!

2008-10-02, 11:03
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Great, Elisabeth! I just found him in the birth book for Alskog. The family seems to have been inte adventure, in 1857 in Visby the son Johan Braf Eugene mentiond as missing for several years so he evidently ran away to join the Danish army and the to South America. Other branches of the von Vegesacks are found in Cape Town, Australia (Knut v Vegesack 1887) and South America.

2008-10-02, 16:32
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I do believe that family was notified, there was a Swedish consul in Sydney and this case was videly known at the time

2008-10-03, 02:23
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Thankyou so much Elisabeth and others, yes there is no doubt it is him. However what is the birth date 09-12?  Is that 12 of Sep or 9 of Dec?
 
He was killed by Melanesians in a bloody attack that whiped out not only him but all of his shipmates in about August 1867. They were bartering for tortoiseshell at a small island in the Solomon group. There is a lot of details but I guess I can be contacted on my mail address.
 
Some time before his tragic death he was awarded a medal for bravery by a British Royal Society and prominent citisens of Sydney collected mony and gave him a gold watch for the same episode in which he had saved the life of others.  
 
There were naturally much stir in connection to his and his shipsmates death so I am sure that the family was noted via the Swedish/Norwegian Consulate in Sydney. Their deatn was thoroughly avenged in the blood of quite a few Solomon islanders, that was they way in those days, the send out a man-of-war to teach them a lesson

2008-10-03, 09:19
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Robert, the date is September 12. It might be possible to check the records of the Swedish-Norwegian consulate in Sydney, as they are probably kept by the Swedish National archives.

2008-10-04, 02:19
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Hello Robert,
The American Swedish Institute in Minneapolis, MN, USA, has displayed articles that belonged to the von Vegesack family.  The person highlighted is General Ernst von Vegesach (1820-1903), who joined the Union forces for a period of two years during the Civil War.  Currently the articles are not on display, but they belong to the permanent collection.  If you want to contact the American Swedish Institute I recommend that you write to:
American Swedish Institute
2600 Park Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55407-1090
Greetings,
Elsie Ekström Martin, Former Guide and Board of Trustees Member,
Brooklyn Center, MM 55429

2008-10-05, 07:17
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Thank Elisabeth,
In Australia we write the day first, as in 12 September, so it is a bit difficult. I believe that all consulate records of this age are now in placed in the national archives in the home country.  
 
Thanks Elsie, perhaps some more interested in the family than I am, will follow up on this. For my part I only wished to set straight the identity of this particular fellow. But it certainly sounds like a fscinating family this.

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