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2001-06-10, 20:08
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Håkan Asplund

Svar på 32 minuter!!
Det måste vara rekord. Tackar och buggar för det John Sid?n. Det är så här det skall gå till. Faktiskt blev de uppmärksammade med bild i tidningen Östgöta Correspondenten senare i livet. Tack än en gång för det matnyttiga svaret. Ernst Gustav var för övrigt make till min mormor Greta Cecilia Larsson (f.1897-10-21) i hennes första äktenskap.
Håkan Asplund.

2001-06-27, 05:48
Svar #1

Östergötland

hi
I am trying to find information on my ancestors.  I have a Peter Bowman born in Atvidaberg.  Born October 6th, 1848.   I need to know where to find more information on him.  Any info would be appreciated.  
 
Thanks
Kim...email me at Giggles313@aol.com

2001-06-28, 19:25
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Hi Kim,
 
1  
Peter Reinhold Boman. Born 1848-10-06 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). (Father 2, Mother 3)
 
Generation I
 
2  
Anders Boman. Miner. Born 1802-12-08 in Värna (Östg).Died 1879-04-23 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 1, Father 4, Mother 5) Married 1826-12-26 to
3  
Cajsa Lisa Kjellander. Born 1809-11-27 in Åtvidaberg, Åtvid (Östg).Moved 1880 to USA. (Child 1, Father 6, Mother 7)  
 
Generation II
 
4  
Jöns Boman. Miner. Born 1769-11-12 in Törnevalla (Östg). Died 1811-12-23 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Child 2, Father 8, Mother 9)  
Married to
5  
Anna Stina Sundberg. Born 1770-11-11 in Loftahammar (Smål). (Child 2, Father 10, Mother 11)  
 
6  
Samuel Kjellander. Miner. Born 1770-04-25 in Tjärstad (Östg). Died 1840-05-26 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 3)  
Married to
7  
Sofia Hallgren. Born 1774-04-09 in Åtvid (Östg). Died 1853-03-05 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 3, Father 14, Mother 15)  
 
Generation III
 
8  
Jonas Boman. Born 1740-06-10 in Åtvid (Östg). Died 1819-05-27 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Child 4)  
Married to  
9  
Kristina Jönsdotter. Born about 1746 in Törnevalla (Östg). Died 1809-01-02 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Child 4)  
 
10  
Johan Sundberg. Miner. Born about 1730. Died 1807-03-18 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Child 5)  
Married to  
11  
Stina Svensdotter. Born about 1730. Died 1803-12-09 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Child 5)  
 
14  
Måns Hallgren. Miner. Born 1744-02-15 in Åtvid (Östg). Died 1822-02-06 in Kopparverket, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 7)  
Married to  
15  
Lena Persdotter. (Child 7)

2001-07-06, 17:42
Svar #3

kim


2001-07-06, 22:40
Svar #4

Marianne Johansson

Hej Gull-Britt Holm
Fick se din fråga ang fam Sandström i Åtvidaberg, Kan nämna att även jag är inblandad i Maja Olofsdotter Sandström f 24/6 1768 i Kopparberget, den hon gifte om sig med Jonas Persson är min ana. Men de var ju för gamla att få några gemensamma barn. Han blev väldigt gammal 85 år, och hon blev änka 6/9 1844. Jag har en anteckning att hon skulle ha kommit från Kopparberget 1770 till Åtvidaberg, men har inte forskat mer om hennes familj bakåt och inte om hennes tidigare gifte heller. Det är lustigt när man börjar släktforska att personer man ser har levt tidigare. Jag har inte varit inne på Åtvid på länge och därför inte sett detta inslag. Om hennes första man hade en son Joseph som hade arbetat som betjänt i Herrsveden, Gräfsten Svinstad sn att han hade drunknat så det måste ha varit i Svinstadsjön för den ligger ju ganska nära från den gården, och så har jag bott granne med den gården och där bodde min bästa kompis som flyttade dit 1962, våra föräldrar hade lantbruk på gårdarna.  
Mvh Marianne Johansson

2001-07-18, 22:05
Svar #5

GullBritt Holm

Hej Marianne Johansson
Tack för svar på efterlysningen,ovanligt att få
så många svar som jag fått på dessa frågor.
Du kan ta kontakt med en dam som heter Ulla-Greta
Malmqvist hon har telenr. 013/154616 hon vet mera
om dessa personer, hon blir jätteglad om du hör av dej, hon har tyvärr ej detta forum på sin
dator.
 Mvh GullBritt Holm.

2001-07-18, 22:57
Svar #6

Marianne Johansson

Hej GullBritt
Tack för upplysningen, jag ska ta kontakt med Ulla-Greta, det är roligt att man kan få kontakt med personer, även levande (skratt).  
Mvh Marianne J

2001-07-19, 06:22
Svar #7

kim

Looking for more information on Emma Sophia, last name I have listed as Neely, Nelli or Nelle...Not sure..She was born in Atvidaberg  November 12, 1843 came to the US 1863.
 
Thanks
Kim
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2001-07-19, 09:07
Svar #8

John Sidén

Hi Kim
I am answering Your question about Emma Sofia Nelly here.
Her parents are the soldier Petter Gustaf Nelly born 1815 May 18 in Åtvid parish and his wife Anna Helena Löfgren born 1813 November 19 in Åtvid parish. They married 1838 October 30. They lived in Herrekullen Vestantorp. Anna Helena died 1860 May 6 in Åtvid. Petter Gustaf married 1860 November 30 Johanna Carlsdotter born 1831 February 19, she came from Kättilstad parish 1856. 1874 they moved to the farm in Åtvidaberg and Petter Gustaf then worked as werger in Åtvid church. He died 1880 May 20 in Åtvid. Johanna lives 1896 in Adelsnäs in Åtvid.
 
Petter Gustaf's and Anna Helena's children: Gustaf Adolf born 1842 July 20 in Åtvid, died 1842 September 6 in Åtvid.
Emma Sophia born 1843 November 12 in Åtvid, emigrated to USA 1863 May 23
Johanna Margareta born 1846 May 7 in Åtvid, moved to Linköping 1863 October 24  
Carl Sigurd born 1848 November 26 in Åtvid, married 1872 December 22 Augusta Larsson born 1851 December 30 in Åtvid, their children: Karl Etik born 1873 August 27 in Åtvid, Augusta Amalia born 1876 March 21 in Åtvid (moved to Norrköping 1894 September 26), Gustaf Robert born 1878 August 7 in Åtvid, Anna Sofia born 1882 November 23 in Åtvid, Laura born 1885 March 17 in Åtvid, Emma Viktoria born 1889 December 19 in Åtvid, the family lived in the farm Åtvidaberg 1896.
Anna Charlotta born 1851 February 21 in Åtvid, emigrated to USA 1873 May 10
Gustaf Albin born 1854 January 29 in Åtvid, died 1858 April 29 in Åtvid
Johanna Matilda born 1855 March 6 in Åtvid, moved to Norrköping 1872 November 4
 
Petter Gustaf's and Johanna's children:
Gustaf Fredrik born 1862 July 2 in Åtvid, emigrated to USA 1889 June 11
Augusta Konstantia born 1864 October 4 in Åtvid, married 1884 December 14 Johan Fredrik Vestermark born 1858 May 27 in Åtvid, their daughter Augusta Fredrika born 1887 November 25 in Åtvid, the family lived 1896 in the farm Åtvidaberg.
Petter Gustaf's parents: Anders Junell born 1781 April 14 and his wife Kirstin Persdotter born 1779 November 25, married 1803 December 11, he died 1823 March 18 in Åtvid. They lived in Kopparverket Åtvidaberg.
 
Anna Helena's parents: Petter Persson and his wife Eva Jonsdotter, they lived in Stocksundet.
Anders Junell's parents: Petter Junell born 1746 July 28 and his wife Ingrid Jonsdotter born 1742, they lived in Åtvidaberg, Petter Junell died 1803 in Åtvid.  
With best wishes
John

2001-07-19, 13:12
Svar #9

John Sidén

Hi Kim  again,  
a little more information about Emma Sophia's family.
Her sister Johanna Margareta Nelly moved from Linköping to Tingstad parish 1864.
Her brother Karl Sigurd's daughter Augusta Amalia Carlsdotter Nelly moved to Stockholm and there she married Johan Valfrid Borgström born 1874 September 15 in Trelleborg. They had no children. Johan Valfrid died 1918 August 3 in Maria parish in Stockholm. 1926 Augusta Amalia lives in Krukmakaregatan 8 in Maria parish in Stockholm.
Her mother's father Petter Persson was born 1787 December 8 and came from Kättilstad parish to Åtvid 1812. He died 1870 May 8 in Åtvid. His wife Eva Jonsdotter was born 1788 June 16 in Åtvid parish, her parents were Jonas Nilsson and his wife Anna Jacobsdotter in Ämternäs, Eva died 1848 January 12 in Åtvid parish.
Her father's mother Kirstin Persdotter died 1827 November 25 in Åtvid (yes, that is right, she died on her birthday according to the book of people died and buried in Åtvid parish).
Her father's father's mother Ingrid Jonsdotter died 1819 June 30 in Åtvid.  
With best wishes
John

2001-07-19, 21:02
Svar #10

kim

John,
 
Thanks so much, however I'm confused...Maybe I'm missing something.  The first reply shows Anna Helena Löfgren and then her father as Petter Persson.  Are the Surnames not the same as they are in the US or was this maybe a stepfather?  The same with Petter Nelly, shows father as  Anders Junell.
 
Thanks again
Kim

2001-07-19, 22:52
Svar #11

John Sidén

Hi Kim again,
Anna Helena's father is also known as Petter Persson Löfgren, he took the name Löfgren perhaps because there were too many Petter Perssons. Anna Helena's real name was Anna Helena Pettersdotter (means daughter of Petter)Löfgren.  
Petter Nelly got the name Nelly when he became a soldier, his real name was Petter Andersson Junell. Often soldiers got a new name when they joined the army, even if they had unusual names like Junell. If a soldier lived in a soldiers cottage he could take the same name as the soldier who had lived in the cottage before him although they were not related to each other, the name followed the place where the soldier lived.  
I hope this will be a sufficient explanation for You.
With best wishes
John

2001-07-19, 23:30
Svar #12

kim

John,
 
Thanks again.  Wow, but how confusing.  I knew about the son and dotter added to the names but I was not aware of the Army name changes.  Thanks this is great information
 
Kim

2001-07-23, 16:11
Svar #13

Kim Bowman-Torres

John
 
Do your records show Emma being married to Peter Boman in Sweden.  I cant seem to locate any marriage information for them in the US.  Their first child was born shortly after she came to the US.  Which leads me to believe they got married there, he came here first then sent for her.  
 
Thanks
Kim

2001-07-23, 18:20
Svar #14

John Sidén

Hi Kim,
according to the household register and the book of people moving out from Åtvid parish Emma Sophia Nelly emigrated to North America 1863 May 12 and Petter Reinhold Boman emigrated to North America 1868 June 9. They are not in the book of people married in Åtvid parish. It seems to me that they were married in the US because Emma was there and Peter came to her when he emigrated.  
With best wishes
John

2001-07-23, 18:50
Svar #15

Kim Bowman-Torres

Thanks John,
 
I was just looking at my files and remembered that she married Charles Oscar first and when he died she married Petter.  
 
Kim

2001-07-23, 19:50
Svar #16

John Sidén

Hi Kim again,
according to the household register and the book of people moving out from Åtvid parish Emma and Carl Oscar emigrated the same day, 1863 May 22. But they are not in the book of people married in Åtvid parish.  
With best wishes
John

2001-07-30, 15:10
Svar #17

Kim Bowman

Hi
 
After receiving all this wonderful info on my Boman side of the family.  I am requesting a look up for the Nystedt Family.  All I was told is that they were from Ostergotland.
 
Any info??
 
thanks
Kim

2001-07-30, 16:32
Svar #18

John Sidén

Hi Kim,
there are a lot of Nystedts in the database of the Linköping area. Do You have any particular Nystedt in mind?
With best wishes
John

2001-07-30, 18:41
Svar #19

Kim Bowman

Hi John
 
The one I'm looking for is Charles Nystedt.  His date of birth I have but not at hand.  I remember it was 1868.  That's pretty much all I know for now.
 
Thanks
Kim

2001-08-02, 05:47
Svar #20

Kim Bowman

Hi John
 
Not sure if this will help but I found Charlse Nystedt's application for marriage.  He married Nellie Victoria Bowman, daughter of Emma Sophia Nelly.  They married on January 6, 1887 in Rockford Illinois.  The application shows his father as Samuel Peter Nystedt and the mother as Maria Elizabeth, I cant make her last name since the copy is not clear.
 
Thanks
Kim

2001-08-02, 10:44
Svar #21

John Sidén

Hi Kim,
I have found this information for You:
Samuel Peter Nystedt born 1828 April 1 in Åtvid parish, mine-worker in Mormorsgruvan, married 1850 May 26 to Anna Elisabet Södergren born 1829 October 5 in Åtvid parish.
Their children: Johanna Gustava born 1850 July 16 in Åtvid
Augusta Matilda born 1852 December 8 in Åtvid
Anders Gustaf born 1855 March 18 in Åtvid
Carl Theodor born 1857 November 11 in Åtvid
Anna Charlotta born 1860 January 12 in Åtvid
Adolf Viktor born 1862 September 24 in Åtvid
Johan August born 1865 June 2 in Åtvid
Elin Sofia born 1868 March 28 in Åtvid
Emma Wilhelmina born 1871 October 21 in Åtvid
the family moved to Bersbo in Värna parish 1874
Samuel Peter Nystedt died 1895 October 24 in Värna
Anna Elisabet Nystedt lived 1895 in Bersbo in Värna parish
Johanna Gustava Nystedt moved 1875 November 24 from Värna to Västra Ny parish
Augusta Matilda Nystedt moved 1880 from Åtvid to Björsäter parish with her children Emma Matilda born 1875 May 18 in Åtvid, died 1883 August 8 in Askeby, and Anna Charlotta born 1880 September 27 in Åtvid. Augusta Matilda married 1880 June 27 Johan August Andersson born 1854 February 7 in Åtvid, their daughter Elin Sofia born 1882 December 7 in Askeby, the family lived in Sunnebo in Björsäter, 1881 they moved to Askeby parish and 1885 March 17 they moved to Östra Ryd parish.
Anders Gustaf Nystedt emigrated to North America from Åtvid 1873
Carl Theodor Nystedt moved from Värna to Alseda parish 1876 October 24
Anna Charlotta Nystedt moved from Värna to Björsäter 1887 January 24, she married 1887 February 18 Gustaf Verner Skog born 1864 January 24 (can't find where he is born), their children Elin Charlotta born 1888 March 5 in Björsäter, Gerda Elisabeth born 1890 June 2 in Björsäter, the family lived in Missmyra and from 1888 in Grönborgs Grönhögsgruva, 1890 the family moved to Östra Eneby parish.
Adolf Viktor Nystedt emigrated to North America from Värna 1884 March 13.
Johan August Nystedt emigrated to North America from Värna 1883 April 25.
Elin Sofia Nystedt moved from Värna to Västra Ny parish 1885 November 29.
Emma Wilhelmina Nystedt emigrated to North America from Värna 1891 June 22.
Samuel Peter's parents: mine-worker in Mormorsgruvan Anders Magnus Nystedt born 1800 February 2 in Åtvid and his wife Johanna Persdotter born 1804 July 23 (can't find where she is born). Anders Magnus Nystedt died 1831 January 15 in Åtvid, Johanna Persdotter died 1879 December 12 in Åtvid.  
Anna Elisabeth's parents: mine-worker in Mormorsgruvan Anders Södergren born 1785 October 2 (can't find where he is born) and his wife Stina Jonsdotter born 1787 May 10 (can't find where she is born), they married 1811 November 24, Anders Södergren died 1862 January 16 in Åtvid, Stina Jonsdotter died 1853 June 1 in Åtvid.
Anders Magnus Nystedt's parents: Samuel Kellander, mine-worker in Mormorsgruvan, born 1770 April 25 (can't find where he is born) and his wife Sophia Hallgren born 1774 April 9 in Åtvid, they married 1794, Samuel Kellander died 1840 May 26 in Åtvid, Sophia Hallgren died 1855 March 5 in Åtvid. When Anders Magnus was born the family lived in Kopparverket. Anders Magnus first had the name Kellander (or Kjellander,the same name with another spelling) but for unknown reasons he took the name Nystedt in the 1820s.  
Sophia Hallgren's parents: Måns Hallgren, mine-worker, and his wife Lena Persdotter.  
With best wishes
John

2001-08-02, 17:21
Svar #22

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Hi Kim,
I have some information about Anna Elisabet Södergren. She was daughter of Anders Södergren and wife Stina Jonsdotter. Anders Södergren was half brother to Carl Magnus Södergren. Their father was my gggg grandfather Carl Södergren. There were several members of the Södergren family immigrated to N. America. In Ishpeming, MI still live relatives of the family.
 
Regards
Barbro Behrendtz
 
1  
Anna Elisabet Södergren. Born 1829-10-05 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). Still living  1895 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Father 2, Mother 3)  
Married 1850-05-26 in Åtvid (Östg) to Samuel Peter Nystedt. Born 1828-04-01 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). Died 1895-05-26 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). Moved 1874 from Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg) to Bersbo, Värna (Östg).  
 
Generation I
 
2  
Anders Södergren. Miner. Born 1785-10-02 in Nergården, Värna (Östg). Died 1862-01-16 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 1, Father 4, Mother 5)  
 
Married 1811-11-24 in Åtvid (Östg) to the following ancestor.  
 
3  
Stina Jonsdotter. Born 1787-05-10 in Kringstorp, Vist (Östg). Died 1853-06-01 in Mormorsgruvan, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 1, Father 6, Mother 7)  
 
Generation II
 
4  
Carl Södergren. Miner. Born about 1760 in Grebo (Östg). Died 1800-12-12 in Bersbo, Värna (Östg). (Child 2)  
 
Married 1st to the following ancestor.  
 
Married 2nd 1789-12-26 in Åtvid (Östg) to Stina Larsdotter. Born 1763-01-25 in Öndhult, Åtvid (Östg). Died 1841-08-31 in Öndhult, Åtvid (Östg).
 
5  
Kristina Andersdotter. Born 1762. Died 1787-05-17 in Malmviken, Åtvid (Östg). (Child 2)
 
6  
Jonas Jönsson. Born 1753 in Vist (Östg). (Child 3)  
 
Married to the following ancestor.  
 
7  
Brita Månsdotter. Born 1755 in Vist (Östg). (Child 3)

2001-08-02, 20:11
Svar #23

Kim Bowman

Barbro, does this mean that we are related somehow??  Thanks so much for all the info.  You and John have been angels for me.
 
Thank you so much
Kim

2001-08-16, 02:41
Svar #24

Kim Bowman

Hi again
 
My question this time is....Asprooth.  Is that a Swedish name and is it common?
 
Kim

2001-08-16, 06:30
Svar #25

John Sidén

Hi Kim again,
Asprooth means the root of an aspen. It is a Swedish name but it is very uncommon. I can't find any people from Åtvid with that name.
With best wishes
John

2001-08-16, 14:14
Svar #26

Kim Bowman

thanks John,
 
I'm trying to think they changed the name all together when they moved to the US.  I can't seem to locate any Asprooths here either.
 
Thanks again
Kim

2001-08-16, 15:17
Svar #27

Kim Bowman

I need some guidance to the site since I dont understand Swedish.  I found an Asprooth family listed at the Mormons site, however there is not much info on them.  Where is Jonkoping or Hestra?  I've look at the landskap here and didnt see either name.
 
Let me know
Kim

2001-08-16, 15:50
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Kim,
 
Jönköping is a town in the province Småland. The town is divided between the parishes Jönköpings Sofia and Jönköpings Kristina (contemporary names). There is a discussion under Landskap>Småland>Socknar>Jönköping.
Hestra is a quite common placename in southern Sweden, in Småland at least 10 places, but no parish has that name. There is a township Hestra in the parish Norra Hestra (no discussion found)and also a parish Södra Hestra, a discussion of which can be found under Landskap>Småland>Socknar>Södra Hestra.
 
Good luck!
Bo Berndtsson

2001-08-21, 03:27
Svar #29

Kim Bowman-Torres

Thanks Bo,
 
I found it now.  Actually had someone send me some info.
 
Thanks again
Kim

2001-12-02, 12:47
Svar #30

Paul Axelsson

Söker efter uppgifter om Gustaf Reinhold Jonasson f1848-10-06 Tjädersdal, Allserum, Åtvidsnäs ägor, Åtvidaberg.

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