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[Solveig Qvarnström]

Tack så väldigt mycket! Hette hon Venner och inte Vennbergs som sin far?

[Leif Mörkfors]

Hej Solveig ! Vennbergs Anders var som skrivits född i Stockholm men hans mor var även hon venjanskulla. Det var Vennbergs Ingeborg Matsdotter som var en ogift piga vid tillfället. Faderns namn okänt. Ingeborg var född 1815 och utvandrar år 1887 till USA 72 år gammal!
Fridas mor STARI Karin var också hon genuin venjanskulla, född i Stutt av Stari Sven Svensson och h h Elin ANdersdotter. Karin flyttar till Älvdalen år 1904 och Aners avled av kallbrand i Venjan år 1893.  
Vi jobbar för tillfället med en bok om Venjansfolket och jag undrar om du känner tillom det finns något foto på Anders och Karin i familjen ?
Hälsningar
Leif

[Solveig Qvarnstrom]

Tack Leif för ytterligare kunskap. Jag vet inte om det finns några fotografier men jag tror inte det. Jag ska kontakta Fridas dotter som är 89 år och fråga. Jag har till igår inte vetat ett dugg om den släkten, Frida dog tyvärr så ung och min svärfar kom på barnhem och visste ingenting om släkten. Min dotter avled 28 maj nu i år, samma datum som Frida fast 78 år senare  Igår tog hennes farfars syster kontakt med mig och berättade om sina föräldrar. Jag lovade att höra av mig igen och höra mera.

[Leif Mörkfors]

Hej Solveig! Du får jättegärna höra av dig till min e-mail efter ditt samtal med Fridas dotter. Vill du veta mer om släkten bakåt i tiden kan jag också hjälpa till. Det var tråkigt att läsa om din dotter.
Varma hälsningar
LEif M

[Solveig Qvarnström]

Tack, det ska jag göra.

[Annelie Biller]

Jag har under min forskning i dag stött på lite patrull. kanske kan någon av er hjälpa mig.  
 
Kristina Nordahl f. 1771-03-29 vigd 1795-06-24 med Anders Berglund f. 1768-07-14. enl. AI:9A och AI:10A bodde familjen i siljansfors och fadern var till att börja med skräddare.  
 
Modern avled 1811-05-27 och efterlämnade barnen Jacob Erik Berglund f 1797-09-20 samt dottern Sara Christina Berglund f 1802-08-31. Båda barnen födda troligtvis i Siljansfors.  
Jag har även en notering som jag inte kan placera med hjälp av Hfl; det är en dotter till paret som heter Anna Lisa Berglund och skulle vara född 1809. Denna återfinner jag inte i kyrkböckerna.  
 
Vidare gifter sig fadern på nytt 1814 och flyttar 1825 till ore båda två.  
 
Jacob Erik och systern Sara Stina flyttar till Wenjan i mora.  
 
Mina frågor ang familjen är  
 
Anna Lisa Berglund är det en dotter som funnits eller är det en felinformation jag fått?  
De barn som flyttade till Wenjan vill jag följa upp men i Hfl AI:10 för mora återfinner jag inte orten. Jag har nu förstått att det är en egen socken, är det någon som vet mer om barnen?
 
Tackar på förhand gör  
 
Annelie

[Christina Holmér-Gunnerfält (Kicki)]

Annelie,
I GID finns Venjan som egen ort alltså inte under Mora. Tyvärr kan jag inte hjälpa dig då dessa år inte är inlagda i GID.
Under födda 1809 GID 149.2.14200 hittar jag Anna Lisa f. 12.2.1809 döpt 19.2. Far Anders Berglund och mor Stina Nordahl 38 år från Siljansfors så din uppgift stämmer.
mvh/Christina

[Annelie Biller]

Tack Christina för snabbt svar, tyvärr vet jag inte vad GID är för något, har du lust att informera mig lite mer är du snäll.  
 
Anna Lisa vet man vart hon kan ha tagit vägen efter sin födelse eftersom hon inte finns i hfl för dessa år. Jag har tittat i Mora AI:8a-10a, jag finner ingen notering om henne och jag hittar inte något avlidet flickebarn heller.

[Christina Holmér-Gunnerfält (Kicki)]

Annelie,
GID är Genline kyrkböcker på nätet.

[Annelie Biller]

tack, jag sitter här i min ensamhet och är helt ovetandes om vilka förkortningar som vi släktforskare rör oss med. Det var där jag fann familjen för övrigt. men jag kunde inte finna någon notering om Anna Lisa där, jag tittade i och för sig inte på födda just i dag, men i hfl fanns hon inte vilket gjorde att hon fösvann i mina anteckningar tills jag kom hem.  
Ja, är det någon som kan bringa klarhet i detta är jag mycket mer än tacksam
 
Annelie

[Donna Loper]

Help please. Leif Morkfors has helped greatly, but I still need to identify who my American named Louis Lunn (see below) is with his given Swedish name. Leif think it may be Lars Lonn.
 
Please write my email in the US if you know anything more about my family in Venjan. Thank you, Donna Loper  dloper3@comcast.net
 
FAMILY INFO:
Descendants of Anders Anderson Liten
 
1.  ANDERS ANDERSON LITEN was born 07 May 1835 in Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden.  He married KARIN ERSDOTTER, daughter of ERIK STRAND and KARIN SVENSDOTTER.  She was born 17 Jun 1841 in Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden, and died 06 Dec 1905 in Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden.
 
Notes for KARIN ERSDOTTER:
Family note refer to this individual as Karin Ersdotter Granath. Children of ANDERS LITEN and KARIN ERSDOTTER are:
i. GUSTAV LITEN, b. Västbygge Venjan,  
ii.NILS OR NELS LITEN, b. Västbygge Venjan,Dalarnas län, Sweden (immig. 1902); d. Mill Lacs, Minnesota (?).
Notes for NILS OR NELS LITEN:1910 Millaca Census shows a Nels Olsen -immigrated from Sweden in 1904. 1910 age is 30 meaning birth year 1880.Lived at Douglas, North Dakota
 
iii. ELIN ANDERSDOTTER (LITEN?), b. 19 Dec 1862, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden; d. 19 Mar 1919, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden; m. ERIK KNEKT.
 
iv. ERIK ÖRSTRÖM (LITEN?), b. 26 May 1867, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden; d. 20 Nov 1937.
 
v. CARRIE OR KARIN LITEN, b. 07 Dec 1868,Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län Sweden (immig. 1889); d. 29 Nov 1925, Mill Lacs, Minnesota USA.
 
vi. ANDERS LITEN, b. 17 Jan 1873, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden; d. 01 Dec 1947, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden.
 
vii. MARIA LITEN, b. 23 May 1880, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden; d. 15 Nov  
        1962, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län,Sweden.
 
viii.INGRID LITEN, b. 12 Jun 1881, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden(immig. 1902).
 
ix. JOHAN LITEN, b. 1884, Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden (immig. 1902).
 
Arriving September 29, 1902 - New York.
Manifest Record Lines:  
0025.  Lindstrom, Carrie F 40y M Sweden Venjan  
0026.  Liljequist, Carl M 11y S Sweden Venjan  
0027.  Liten, Johan M 18y S Sweden Venjan  
 
1902 - 40 = Carrie = born 1862 (1868 - 6 years difference from our date)
1902 - 11 = Carl = 1891  
1902 - 18 = Johan = 1884 (match)  
 
More About JOHAN LITEN:
Immigration: 1902, From Sweden
Residence: Lived at Douglas, North Dakota
 
 
Generation No. 2
 
2.  ERIK ÖRSTRÖM (LITEN?) was born 26 May 1867 in Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län, Sweden, and died 20 Nov 1937.Children of ERIK ÖRSTRÖM (LITEN?) are:
   i. SIGNE ERIKA, b. 1897; d. 1927;  
        m. KARL VIKTOR KNEKT.
   ii. AUGUST VERNER, b. 1887; d. 1957.
   iii. KATARINA VILHELMINA, b. 1891; d. 1961;  
        m. GUSTAV VILHELM NORDIN
 
3.  CARRIE OR KARIN LITEN  was born 07 Dec 1868 in Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län (county), Sweden (immig. 1889), and died 29 Nov 1925 in Mill Lacs, Minnesota.  She married LOUIS LUNN (LARS LÖNN?) 1892 in Kopparberg -> Venjan (parish/village), son of LARS PERSON and MARIT LARSON.  He was born 20 Dec 1855 in Sweden, and died 10 Nov 1940 in Mill Lacs, Minnesota.
 
Notes for CARRIE OR KARIN LITEN:
Carrie lists in one of the census reports that her year of immmigration was the same as Louis Lunn (1891)Although family oral history says he sent for her after he arrived. Same year not defined.
 
Immigration Information: Ship Passenger records 1902 The Celtic Sailing from Liverpool
Arriving September 29, 1902 - New York.
Manifest Record Lines:  
0025.  Lindstrom, Carrie F 40y M Sweden Venjan  
0026.  Liljequist, Carl M 11y S Sweden Venjan  
0027.  Liten, Johan M 18y S Sweden Venjan  
 
Notes for LOUIS LUNN (LARS LÖNN?):
Louis Lunn came to the US first, then sent for Carrie. Possible Swedish Name:  Lars Lönn
Arrived in US July 18,1886(age approx. 31)
Declared intent to become a US citizen October 23, 1888. Awarded Citizenship April 3 1899
 
Thank you to anyone who can help me identify Louis Lunn and his family in Sweden. Any information on Carrie's mother's family would also be appreciated. I have much information on the Liten and Lunn family after they immigrated to the US. I am pleased to share anything I have you might need.   Thank you again, Donna Loper dloper3@comcast.net

[Leif Mörkfors]

Hi Donna !
I made a check for Karin again today. She left Venjan August 29th 1891. The emigrationrecord says that she went from Gothenburg alone with destination New York ( and after that maybe Minneapolis). She wasn?t married by that time so they must have been married in the US.
There was one boy born in Venjan 1855 Dec 20th. His name was Fin Erik Sigfridsson and he emigrated in 1880 togehter with his parents, wife and children. They should have settled in Isanti county. It?s seems hard to see Erik turn to Louis....
From what source have you got the information about the names och Louis Lunns parents? Lars Persson don?t indicate Venjan at all. There wasn?t anyone with that name around bu the time.
 
BEst regards
Leif

[Mats Ahlgren]

Hi
As Leif say, it looks like she travelled alone. On the ship manifest (SS Wyoming arriving 1891 Sept 23) the passenger on the line above has the same destination as she gives, Minneapolis.
Kuert(?) E J Karlsson is what I read for that passenger, age 31.
 
The person I guess is Carrie is called Karin Andersson on the manifest. So, Louis might have sent for her but he didn't go after her
 
Mats

[Donna Loper]

Mats and Leif:
I have a handed down typewritten story called Our Heritage.  This is the source for my info from Louis and Carrie Lunn's children:
Let me type the first three paragraphs telling of the family in Sweden:
     Back in the year 1705 a little girl was born in Sweden and given the name Marit Mattsdotter, She married Mars Nilson, had a daughter Karin who had a son Nils who had a daughter Elin.  Elin eventually became grandmother to OUR grandmother, Carrie Liten. Little did any of them know that in 1991 many of their descendants would be getting together to try to learn more about them and of all the interveining generations.
   Many of these generations were born and lived our their lives in Vastbygge Fierding Vanjan, Sweden. Our grandmother Carrie Liten wa born Karin Liten on December 7, 1868, one of nine children. Four of these siblings immigrated to the United States, Carrie in 1889.  Her sister Ingrid and brother John (Johan) and Nils arrived in the US in 1902.
   Meanwhile Louis Lunn, son of Lars Person and Marit Larson was growing up, immigrating to Mid-America and spring out the land for a place to settle. When he found land along the Rum River north of Princeton, Minnesota -- at that time a lumbering town, he felt at home and took 40 acres. He also talked his sister Annie, and her husband Benjamin Benson into getting 40 acres right to the south of his property. [...]
   Louis took the name Lunn because he said it meant peaceful valley where they had come from in Sweden. His sisters Annie and Belle took Larson as their last name as was traditional, their father's name being LARS Person.  Another sister married a Berglund. She died in childbirth and after her husband remarried, the two families lost contact. Belle married John Carlson and lived near Buffalo Minnesota. Annie and Ben Benson had four children (Arthur, Esther, Anna and Mabel).
   Louis and Carrie were married in 1892, moved to Princeton, Mn farm early in the 1900's.
 
This is the source of the information I have on Louis Lunn's family. Perhaps you can find a place close to Venjan - that is called Peaceful Valley - where a family had the following:
A son  (Louis or Lars)
A daughter named Annie
A daughter named Belle
A daughter (name unknown)
 
These are my only clues.
Thank you both for your help. Sincerely, Donna

[Mats Ahlgren]

Hi Donna
 
I haven't found any news about Louis yet, but some small changes of your information.
Nils and Ingeborg (not Ingrid) Liten leaves Gothenburg together May 29 1903, heading for Princeton, Min  (Source CD Emigranten 73:215:38606)
 
On the same CD is Johan Liten found, leaving Gothenburg Sept 15, 1902. He is travelling together with the two persons you have mentioned and the interesting is that Johan and Carl has the same note sisters son and that relates to Carie Lindström, who on Emigranten has America as home parish. So it looks like this Carie has been home and now takes Carl and Johan with her.
(Source code 73:111:1535)
 
Mats

[Mats Ahlgren]

Hi Donna
 
I'm not all sure that the following is your ”man” , but it seems like it might be worth checking more.
First, do you know if Louis father and mother also emigrated?  If they did, take a look at the following information from CD Emibas
 
Post 751486
Persson, Lars
Ägare (married man)
b. 3/9/1823 in Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Emigrated 6/13/1887
from Råda, Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 162
Emibas migration file ID: Ekshärad S 1887 044
 
Post 751487
Larsdotter Persson, Marit
Hustru (married woman)
b. 1/6/1828 in Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Emigrated 6/13/1887
from Råda, Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 162
Emibas migration file ID: Ekshärad S 1887 045
 
Post 751488
 
Larsdotter Persdotter, Ingeborg
Barn (unmarried woman)
b. 8/19/1853 in Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Emigrated 6/13/1887
from Råda, Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 162
Emibas migration file ID: Ekshärad S 1887 046
 
Post 751489
 
Larsson Persson, Karl Johan Bernhard
Barn uä (unmarried man)
b. 8/4/1882 in Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Emigrated 6/13/1887
from Råda, Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 162
Emibas migration file ID: Ekshärad S 1887 047
 
 
And just after them left
 
Post 751470
Larsdotter, Anna
Barn (unmarried woman)
b. 3/26/1865 in Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Emigrated 5/11/1887
from Råda, Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 162
Emibas migration file ID: Ekshärad S 1887 028
 
 
And in 1886 left this man
 
Post 751441
Larsson, Lars
Ägarson (unmarried man)
b. 12/20/1855 in Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
 
Emigrated 6/25/1886
from Råda, Ekshärad, Värmlands län (Värmland)
to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 618
Emibas migration file ID: Ekshärad S 1886 068
 
 
And why could it be worth taking a look if this is a family or not,  
In the census 1900 is Benjamin and Hanna Benson found, Hanna is later called Annie and Anna. She probably dies June 19 1929 in Mille Lacs according to MHS. In 1900 her birthdate is March 1865 and immigration 1887.
 
In another part Isibelle Carlson, married to John Carlsson and living in Independence, Hennepin county is found. She is born Aug 1853 and immigrated 1887/1888 (different in different census). Together with John and Isibelle lives a daughter, Esther and Johns mother-in-law, Mary Larsson, born Jan 1828.
 
I also find Isabelle and Esther living together with 37 year old Barney Carlsson, (Karl Johan Bernhard) born in Sweden  
Source 1920 United States Federal Census > Minnesota > Wright > Maple Lake > District 85 >page 16B. This place is rather close to Buffalo
 
So, Lars Larsson might be your Louis Lunn. I propose that you raise a question under Ekshärad, Värmland so you can get a definitive answer whether these people are from the same family and if the third sister appears.
 
Mats

[Donna Loper]

Mats: Tacka dig mycket. Enormt!
I have been looking for more than 15 years for Louis in his home name and country. I know I must not be so excited, and follow your lead. I will post to Ekshärad, Värmland to try to verify this is my Louis.  You provided wonderful help, as has Leif in the past on Karin (Carries) parish facts.
I appreciate the time you spent.  I will post back when I get more from Ekshärad, Värmland board.  Sincerely, Donna

[Mats Ahlgren]

Donna
 
You are welcome. When asking for the family in Ekshärad you might also ask if they have any word that can explain Lunn.  
 
It might be the Swedish word Lund, which I believe is Grove in English
 
Mats

[Donna Loper]

Hi again Mats and Venjan researchers!
I posted to Ekshärad and received a wonderful surprise today.  Olle took the time to scan and create a PDF file for me with the original Swedish census records of the family described above (Lars Persson and Marit Larsdotter Persson.
 
I am amazed how wonderful this group is to help me.  If I can do anything in USA for you - please ask. And if anyone has access to parish records or other datas - please continue to send along.  I am very grateful for your help.   Sincerely, Donna  (I am Lars Persson's great grand daughter).
His son, Walter Lunn was my Grandfather, my mothers father.

[Margaretha Fransson]

hej finns det någon som kan ge mej info om:
Nils Alfred Lärka f. 1898 vem var hans förfäder, hade han några syskon om när var de födda.
mvh
Maggan

[Carl-Johan Gustafsson]

Hej Margaretha
 
Detta var de uppgifter som fanns i Folkräkningen från år 1900.
 
Familjen bodde i Kyrkbyn Westbygge Fjerding N:o 4?. Samtliga födda i Venjan.
 
Personer i hushållet:  
Fam. nr 1
 
Sigfrid Lärka, f. 1870, Bonde  
Anna Nilsdotter, f. 1871  
Ingrid, f. 1894  
Nils Alfred, f. 1898  
 
Hoppas uppgifterna räcker för att söka vidare.
 
M v h
Kalle

[Carl-Johan Gustafsson]

Hej igen
 
Jag hittade Sigfrids familj i A1:13A sidan 5.
 
Soldat Anders Lärka, 1842-08-09, Venjan.
Ingeborg Jonsdotter, 1845-01-11, Venjan
Sigfrid, 1870-04-24, Venjan
 
Ingeborgs familj på samma ställe.
 
Jon Andersson, 1816-03-19, Venjan.
Ingborg Larsdotter, 1811-06-19, Venjan.
Ingeborg, 1845-01-11, Venjan
Margit, 1848-12-26, Venjan.
Jonas, 1851-11-14, Venjan.
 
 
Anders familj, samma bok sidan 225.
 
Sigfrid Davidsson, 1808-08-15, Venjan.
Margit Matsdotter 1800-10-11, Venjan.
Nils, 1832-01-26, Venjan.
Daniel, 1834-09-10, Venjan.
Sigfrid, 1838-08-16, Venjan.
Anders, 1842-08-09, Venjan.
 
Datum är bara lästa från husförhörslängden och måste verifieras via fler källor.
 
M v h
Kalle

[Margaretha Fransson]

Tack Kalle
mvh Maggan/Gotland

[Leif Mörkfors]

Gårdsnamnen är viktiga i Venjan !
Här är ytterligare lite info.
Hur är du relaterad till familjen?
 
Kari Sigfrid Danielsson  
f 1808 15/8 av  
Daniel Danielsson & Lisa Sigfridsdotter
d 1884 22/9
g 1830 m Karin Nilsdotter
f 1806 12/9 av  
Nils Strand & Karin Sigfridsdotter
d 1844 9/6 4 söner
”Tålig under betryckta  
omständigheter.”
g 1848 m Gam Margit Matsdotter
f 1800 17/10 Städje av  
Mats Nilsson & Majt Olsdotter
d 1875 10/7 1 dotter

[Donna Loper]

Hello again from US:  I am looking for copies of the parish records for Anders Anderson Liten(born 07 May 1835) and his wife Karin Ersdotter (born 17 Jun 1841) - both from Västbygge Venjan, Dalarnas län.  If anyone can send me the family info for the children, including Gustav and his marriage. I would appreciate. Genline doesn't have Dalarnas län available online. I know that there were 8 or 9 children; Gustav; Elin-1862; Erik(?)-1867; Karin-1868; Anders-1873; Nils-1875; Maria-1880; Ingeborg-1881; Johan-1884.  I am not certain of Erik as a spouse of one of these children or a child of Anders and Karin. The parish record will help clear that up for me.
 
Notes from family oral history:
Grandmother Carrie (Karin) Liten Lunn came from Venjan, Sweden. Had a brother Gustav. His widow was still living when Sandy and Edna visited Sweden in 1971.
 
Thanks to you all for your help.
Sincerely, Donna Lea Loper
Karin Liten's great-granddaughter in US.

[Olle Andersson]

Donna !
 
Dalarnas län is called Kopparberg - the Venjan records are at 2165.
 
As for the Liten-family - check GID 2165.41.28600
 
Regards
 
Olle

[Donna Loper]

Awesome!  I did not know Kopparberg in place of Dalarnas lan.  I have found what I needed. Your re-direction is great. Thanks.

[Doris Olsson]

Jag söker efter Anders Lindström f. 1864-08-18 i Wenjan Falu län.  År 1897-05-15.el.16 flyttade han från Sundsvall till Adolf Fredriks församling i Stockholm. Finns det någon som känner till något om denne man - föräldrar mm.   Tacksam för svar.
mvh
Doris O.

[Leif Mörkfors]

Hej Doris ! Anders är om jag minns rätt en son till Rangd Erik Andersson i Stutt, Venjan. Jag har en fin bild på Anders Lindström från 1880-talet om du skickar mig din e-postadress så kan du få en kopia och se om det är rätt man !
Mvh Leif M

[Doris Olsson]

Hej Leif!  
Mycket intressant. /Doris O.
Min e-post är
olsson_143@hotmail.com