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[Ishbel Cormack]

My grandmother's brother and sister from Hannäs parish both married someone from Mossebo parish
between 1880 and 1890. They married in the USA in the state of Connecticut.(Hartford and Portland were the locations).
 
Would it be easy to travel between Mossebo and Hannäs at that time? I'm wondering if they met in Sweden.
 
Did a large number of people emigrate from Mossebo to Hartford-Portland Connecticut in that time period?

[Jan Åke Sandberg]

Hi
Hannäs is situated in the northeastern part of the landscape of Småland close to the border of the landscape of Östergötland.
Mossebo is situated in the landscape of Västergötland close to the border of landscape of Småland.
I guess there were very few connections between these parish during that time, they are situated far from each other also it is in or close to Småland.  I will say Mossebo is more close to Göteborg, the main emigration port.
I hope there is someone else who can answer your second question because I have not access to the sources.
Have a nice day

[Ishbel Cormack]

Jan:When were the railways functioning in Sweden? In Canada by 1885 the railroad had almost crossed the country so I thought Sweden would have had a more advanced system by then.
Thanks for your answer. It is difficult to get much information about Sweden before 1900 where I live.The university has very little.
Tack så mychet for your answer.

[Jan Åke Sandberg]

Between Göteborg and Stockholm 1862.  Railways to more promote areas later.  The nearest railway station from Mossebo was and is Hestra in Småland about 30 minutes drive by car from Mossebo.  I'm not so familiar with the east coast of Sweden why I'm not so sure about Hannäs but I guess they could took a train from Västervik in Småland or from Åtvidaberg in Östergötland and I will say that all this railways was finished around 1880/1890 (very few in the 20th century).  The railway trip from Hannäs to Göteborg was not so easy as from Hestra to Göteborg, they have to change train a couple of times.  I guess you can imagine that your ancestors met each other  in US or maybe on the ship over (but not in Sweden)

[Ishbel Cormack]

Jan: Alfred Pettersson b. Feb.2, 1851 came from Bohult, Mossebo and Elna Maria Svensson b.Feb.29,1868 came from Lilla Skillerås,Mossebo. Do you know if these are farms or villiages and if they are close to each other?
From what you say. I think they probably met their future spouses in Connecticut USA.
Thank you for your help.

[Jan Åke Sandberg]

Lilla Skillerås was a farm and situated about 10 minutes drive from Bohult, which was a croft (Little farm).
 
I will recommend a book with Swedish titel: Mosseb socken. Kyrkan, Bygden, Folket (Parish of Mossebo, Church, Country, People) from 1994 where you can find a lot of informations about your ancestors.  If you send me your address I will send you copies of the interesting pages.
 
About 300 persons emigrated from Mossebo to USA 1852-1929 according to the book and all of them are listed but unfortunately Elna Maria is not listed, Alfred Petterson emigrated 1880 according to the list.  But on page 244 you find that Alfred Pettersson emigrated 1889, on page 242 he came back 1889 so that must be something wrong (1880 is correct I think when he emigrated).  And when he came back (to Bohult which he bought) he brought his wife Anna Lovisa Andersdotter and their son Karl Hugo who was born in America March 28, 1889.  Alfred Pettersson was from Övrabo in Mossebo, neighboring croft to Bohult.
 
Elna Maria Svensson from Lilla Skillerås emigrated  according to page 487 in the book 1888 to USA.  Her ancestors can be traced back to 1774 at that farm.

[Ishbel Cormack]

Jan:What wonderful information. Tack så mychet.
I would appreciate having the pages you think would be helpful. I will send you my address but I would like to mail you enough money to cover the printing and mailing costs.
One more request. Please look to see if an August John Landeen born May 15, 1855 is mentioned. This was my grandfather. He married Anna Lovisa's sister, Susanna Charlotta(Lotten) Andersdotter from Larum, Hannäs.
August changed his name when he emigrated to the USA about 1876-1878. The family think it may have been Johan August Andersson in Sweden. They think his father's name was Nels or Nils so the name in Sweden may have been August Nelsson or Nilsson.
Documents fron Larum after he married Charlotta in the US in 1889, called him Jonas August Landin.
 
 Elna's grandson in Norrköping suggested that August may also have come from Mossebo.
I have ordered the parish records on film but they  
have not arrived yet.
 
If there is anything I can help you with in Canada please let me know and I will do my best.
 
Ishbel

[Ishbel Cormack]

Jan: I am not able to obtain your e mail address when I click on your name so could you send an email to me with your address for mailing and I will email you my mailing address.
Thanks,
Ishbel

[Anders Brissman]

Ishbel.
 
A quick look at the CD Emigrants shows that between 1887-1902 10 people left Mossebo for Hartford, CT. For Portland 19 people are listed between 1881 and 1890. That is people with an ticket for this specific destination.
 
Most emigrants had a ticket for New York. Your Alfred Pettersson is listed leaving 1880-03-26 from Gothenburg.
 
If you don?t find an E-mail under the name, that person hasn?t given his E-mail when he/she sending in an answer.  
 
Best Regards Anders

[Jan Åke Sandberg]

There is no Johan August Andersson or Nilsson or Landin who emigrated from Mossebo during 1870's.  There is two Johan August Andersson but they not emigrated and their fathers name was Anders.
 
About Alfred Petterssosns parents Petter Larsson, he was born at the croft Lövåsen in Norra Hestra Sept 1, 1808 and died at Övrabo in Mossebo May 6, 1879.  His wife Sara Svensdotter was born (according to the boook of Mossebo) April 9, 1814 in Norra Hestra.  It is in the Norra Hestra record any person with that name born that day and I think she is born Jan 9, 1814 in Valdshult (close to Norra Hestra) as a daughter of farmer Sven Jonsson and his wife Caijsa Jonsdotter 26 years old in Valdshult.  Sara died at Övrabo in Mossebo April 24, 1878.
 
Peter Larsson was sonof crofter at Lövåsen in Norra Hestra Lars Svensson, born May 16, 1772 in Källeryd and died at Lövåsen Oct 30, 1843.  His wife Cathrina Magnusdotter was born April 19, 1776  at Tuddebo in Valdshult and died at Lövåsen May 12, 1842.  Peter was their first child but I haven't found any marriage dates (not married in Norra Hestra or Valdshult).  They got 3 more kids.
 
Cathrina Magnusdotter was daughter of soldier no 40 at Mo härads kompani (the company of Mo court district) of Jönköpings läns regemente (Regiement of Jönköping county)Magnus Larsson Wallman, born abou 1755, became a soldier 1775, length 5 feet 10 inches, died March 2, 1790 in Finland (Finland was a part of Sweden until 1809; 1790 we had a war with Russia.  He was married to Ingeborg, no last name, no datas.  They lived at Tuddebo in Valdshult, landscape of Småland.
 
May I correct my earlier message about the railway station, I think from Mossebo is/was Grimsås the nearest railway station (is the one next after Hestra traveling from Småland to Göteborg).
 
Källeryd, Norra Hestra and Valdshult is all in Småland but not so far from Mossebo in Västergötland.
 
My e-mailadress is jasa0001@privat.utfors.se

[Ishbel Cormack]

Anders: Were most of those people from Mossebo single or married with families?
I assume Alfred Pettersson's destination was New York. Thank you for the information. It was most kind of you to do that look up for me.

[Ishbel Cormack]

Jan: Does the book about Mossebo tell why the people chose the Hartford-Portland area of USA to go to? Do you know what kind of jobs they would have when they arrived.
What is the geography around Mossebo like. Is it flat,hilly, wooded etc.? I am trying to picture it in my mind.  
Thank you for all your help.

[Anders Brissman]

Ishbel.
 
Most of the emigrants travelled alone. If they had a wife/husband doesn?t come out of the records. Only when you find a father/mother with children you can be certain a of famelygroup.
 
In your case 2 mother whith 2 children each left for Portland. Their husbands must have left before them or they were dead. I also found 2 Ödman( brothers ? ) leaving the same day for Portland in 1892.
 
To Hartford I?ve found that one girl Ödman left in 1885, maybe a sister to the other 2 Ödmans. No famelies there.
 
Best regards

[Ishbel Cormack]

Anders:Thank you. I will now have a good bases for more research thanks to you and Jan. I hope to visit Mossebo parish next year so want to have as much background information about the family as I can.

[Ron Holmquist]

Hi folks,
 
I need help, please, finding the date of Ingrid Andersdotter's (born August 3, 1800 in Mossebo, Främmestad parish, Sweden), marriage to Sven Gustafsson, b October 10, 1802 in Stora Mellby, (P), Trökörna/Tengene, Sweden.  
Any information about this couple and their children is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Ron

[Marianne Elfström]

Samuel Torkelsson och hans hustru Kerstin fick (minst) två barn i Malsbo(?), Mossebo; Arfvid född 1765-10-11 och Johannes född 1768-02-26.  
 
Faddrar var Sven Jönsson på Bygget, Håkan Månsson i Malsbo, Brita Nilsdotter i Malsbo, Kerstin Svensdotter i Båls??, Marta Håkansdotter i Malsbo och Stina Håkansdotter på Bygget.
 
Efter minst ett halvårs letande har jag äntligen funnit pojkarnas födelseplats. De flyttade så småningom till Marks härad där de gifte sig och bildade familjer.
 
Finns det någon som forskat i denna släkt? Kanske kan vi i så fall utbyta information?
 
Med vänliga hälsningar
Marianne

[Anneli Isaksson]

To Ishbel Cormack. I saw that somebody already will send you copies from the book about Mossebo. I have done a lot of research in Mossebo and I have some more information about the ancestors of Elna Maria Svensson, born Febr 29, 1868 at Lilla Skillerås than you can find in the book. If I get your address I will send it to you. Be aware that you have to compare the dates in the book with the original churchbooks.  
Best regards
Anneli Isaksson

[Ishbel Cormack]

Anneli: Thank you. I will be happy to receive the information you have. I will send an email to you as soon as I finish writing this.

[Anne Minken]

Jeg søker opplysninger om en familie som flyttet fra Norge til Mossebo en gang mellom 1856 og 1860:
Johan Christian Evensen f. 27.7.1828 i Hurdal, hans kone Bente Fredrikke Stalberg f. 1822 i Biri og to barn: Wilhelmine Caspara f. 1855 i Biri og Maja Constance f. 1856 i Biri.  
 
Jeg er bl.a. interessert i opplysninger om hva Johan Christian Evensen arbeidet med i Mossebo, flere barn i ekteskapet og om familien ble boende der.

[Anneli Isaksson]

Hej Anne!
Enligt boken Mossebo Kyrkan-Bygden-Folket, var familjen bosatt på Bollsjö glasbruk i Mossebo från 1856-1883.
Joh. Chr. Evensen f. 29/6 Norge, smältare
Beatha Fredr. Stalberg f. 22/9 1822 Norge
Barn: Caspara f. 18/10 1854 Norge d. 4/2 1882, Maja Teresia Camilla f. 20/5 1860, d. 10/1 1877, Axel Robert f. 29/4 1862, d. 31/1 1865, Blända f. 12/6 1865. Caspara och Maja T. C. dog av lungsot och Axel dog av förkylning. Dottern Blända Johansdotter emigrerade till USA 1882 och föräldrarna året efter. Möjligen bodde även en syster till Johan Christian Evensen på Bollsjö glasbruk under samma tid. Se mitt svar under Landskap Västergötland efterlysningar Frants Chr. L. Liberg (1822-1875)Bollsjö glasbruk
Hälsningar
Anneli

[Anne Minken]

Hei Anneli!
 
Mange takk for raskt svar med nyttige opplysninger. Frants Chr. L. Libergs kone, Anne Lovisa Evensdatter, var ganske riktig Johan Christian Evensens eldre søster. Hun var født i Hurdal i 1825. Foreldrene var glassverksarbeider Even Nielsen og Mari Olsdatter.
I likhet med Liberg arbeidet også Johan Christian Evensen en tid på Hestviken glassverk i Askøy. Ekteskapet med Bente Fredrikke Stalberg ble inngått på Askøy. 
 
Vet du om det var flere glassverksarbeidere fra Norge på Bollsjö glasbruk?

[Anneli Isaksson]

Hej Anne!
Enligt Mosseboboken. Bosatta på Bollsjö bruk 1856-1857. Glasblåsare Hans Jörgen Hagen f. 24/6 1810 Norge. Hustru Catharina Ellert f. 1810. Barnen: Petra Hedvig f. 25/6 1835, Christina Emilia f. 18/11 1840, Emil Valdemar Jörgen f. 12/4 1843, Evendius f. 1851, Hans Jörgen f. 1853. Familjen flyttade till Köpenhamn 1857.
En annan familj bosatta på Bollsjö bruk 1856-1861, okänt var de kom ifrån. Glasblåsare Christian Justinus Holm f. 1835, Hustru Maja Andersdotter f. 1832. Barnen: Justina Wilhelmina f. 21/7 1856, Johan Fendreek f. 29/10 1859 på Bollsjö glasbruk, Henrietta Laurina f. 7/11 1860 på Bollsjö glasbruk. Familjen flyttade till Trondheim.
Observera att Mosseboboken är en andrahandskälla.
Har du förresten haft kontakt med glasbruksforskaren Lilian Larsson? Hon har forskat mycket om glasbrukare både i Sverige och i Norge.
Hälsningar
Anneli

[Anne Minken]

Hei Anneli!
 
Igjen mange takk for interessant informasjon. Det var nytt for meg at disse to hadde arbeidet på Bollnäs. Opplysningene fra Mosseboboken stemmer bra med de opplysningene jeg har fra andre kilder. Christian Justinus Holm var født ved Aasnæs glassverk i Namdalen i Nord-Trøndelag. Før han kom til Bollnäs, arbeidet han på Hestviken (eller Fjelds) glassverk på Askøy. Han giftet seg med Maja Stina Andersdotter mens han arbeidet der. I kirkeboka er det opplyst at hun kom fra Skaraborg i Sverige. Familien kom tilbake til Aasnæs i 1863. I 1878 emigrerte de til Amerika. 
 
Hans Jørgen Hagen flyttet sammen med sin foreldre og søsken fra Norge til Holmegaards glassverk i Danmark i 1827. Før han kom til Sverige arbeidet han en tid ved Conradsminde glassverk ved Aalborg på Jylland. Jeg lurer på om han også kan ha arbeidet en tid på Limmared før han kom til Bollnäs. 
 
Jeg har lenge ønsket å komme i kontakt med Lilian Larsson og har faktisk for en tid siden spurt her på Anbytarforum om noen kjente til hennes e-post eller postadresse. Kanskje du kan hjelpe meg med det?
 
Med vennlig hilsen
Anne

[Anneli Isaksson]

Hej Anne!
Jag känner Lilian sedan långt tillbaka och tänker försöka träffa henne i sommar. Så vitt jag vet håller hon inte på med forskning nu för tiden. Om det är något speciellt du vill veta om norska glasblåsare så kanske du kan mejla till mig.  
Hälsningar  
Anneli

[Bengt Rydh]

1737-06-08 gifter sig (Mossebo C:1) Elin Jonsdotter från Bråsjön(?) i Mossebo med Erik Mattisson från Vika i Båraryd.
 
Vet någon något om Elins ursprung?

[Kerstin Asp]

Hej!
Söker komplett födelsedatum samt information om föräldrarna till Maria Wilhelmina Mårtensdotter född 1866 i Mossebo. Jag vet att modern heter Josefa Svensdotter och föddes 1833-08-16 i Mossebo. Har själv bara tillgång till Genline och där slutar födelseböckerna 1860. Tack på förhand!

[Weino Sandh]

Hej Kerstin !
 
Wilhelminas far heter Mårten Pettersson f. 1832 i Mossebo.
 
Enligt Arkion 1890 bor familjen i Hinkelsbo Mossebo.
 
Arkion ger endast födelseår och födelseförsamling.
 
Förmodligen har du Husförhörsländer framemot 1900 på Genline, allmänt verkar det vara så att Födelseböcker efter 1860 inte finns på Genline.
 
Mvh
 
Weino

[Kerstin Asp]

Tack igen! Jag får ta hfl och gå den vägen bakåt.

[Anneli Isaksson]

Hej Kerstin!  
Maria Wilhelmina Mårtensdotter f. 1866-04-16 Järnhestra,Mossebo var dotter till Mårten Pettersson f. 1832-11-20 Trollabo,Mossebo och Josefa Svensdotter f. 1833-08-16 Alanäs, Mossebo. Uppgifterna kommer från boken Mossebo Kyrkan - Bygden - Folket. Om du beställer mikrokort från Svar så hittar du flera förfäder i Mossebo både på Mårtens och Josefas sida. Själv har jag en del uppgifter om Josefa Svensdotters anor, eftersom några av dem finns med i min antavla. Jag har även kort på Agneta Hansdotter, Josefa Svensdotters mor, och två av Josefas bröder samt ett kort med troligen Mårten Pettersson, Josefa Svensdotter och barnen Pehr Salomon och Maria Wilhelmina. Kontakta mig via mail så kan jag skicka korten till dig. Vore kul om du kan bekräfta att det verkligen är Mårten och Josefa och deras barn på mitt kort.
Vänliga hälsningar
Anneli Isaksson

[Jan-Olof Johansson]

Min mormors morbror Edvard Palm (f.1871) från S.Hyddan, Mossebo emigrerade 1890 till Amerika (troligen Connecticut).Han hörde aldrig av sig.Jag vore glad om någon har nån upplysning om honom.
 M.V.H
Jan-Olof Johansson