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[Göran Hermanson]

Jag söker efter anorna till Jonas Andersson född 1808-12-06 i Hannäs och död 1855-08-22 i Mellanbruket Gusum, jag söker även anorna till hans hustru Greta Andersson f. ca 1811.
Hälsningar
Göran

[Ishbel Cormack]

Is there still a farm Larum?It was in Holmbo Rote, Hannäs parish,Kalmar county. I have records of my family living there between 1886 and 1670.  
In 1886 the farm owner was Anders Gustaf Niclasson 1821-?.His wife, Susanna Persdotter 1826-1870.
 
Anders' father was Niclas Pettersson 1787-1863, his mother Magdalena Nilsdotter 1797-1860.
Other surnames connected to Anders: DeTrij and Lind
My grandmother, Susanna Charlotta Andersdddotter and several of Ander's children went to the USA between 1878 and 1886.
How can I find out if this farm still exists and how long my ancestors lived there after 1886?

[Maj-Britt Sundin]

Hannäs-bor:
Jag själv började skolan i Hannäs sn år 1950. Vi var 8 st i samma sal som innehöll både första och andra klass, 4 i varje.  
Vet någon vad lärarinnan hette?

[Sam Blixt]

Hi Isbhel,
 
Both Larum and Holmbo is villages today.
Holmbo is little more than 3 miles east-north-east from Larum.
 
Yoy can find the places by using www.mapquest.com.
 
Hannäs parish should be under Östergötland in stead of Småland.
 
Regards/Sam

[Jörgen Tollesson]

Hannäs är en socken i Norra Tjusts härad. Och Tjust är ett av de gamla Smålanden.

[Bo Persson]

Sam & Ishbel,
both I and Carl-Fredrik Hanzon and now Jörgen Tollesson have pointed out that Hannäs really is situated in the landscape of Småland, and that the fact that the parish as a result of the administratvie reform 1 Jan. 1971 became a part of Östergötlands län has nothing to do with that. The same goes for Gärdserum, Tryserum and Östra Ed. We should not confuse our foreign friends about geographical facts. Accordingly, I redirected the disussion to its proper place, this place.

[Pernilla Bollman]

Känner någon till om Stina Jaens/Johansdotter föddes i Hannäs 1777-04-11 ? Uppg fr Ukna hfl 1826-30. Där står också att hon och familjen, maken Peter Andersson, sönerna Johan 1808 och Anders 1813, är infl fr Hannäs 1827. Vid Johans födelse 1808 bodde de i Gärdserum (uppg PLF).
Mvh Pernilla

[Ishbel Cormack]

Anders Gustaf Niklasson b1821,farm Larum,Hannäs,died when???
He was living in 1888 but I do not have a record after that.

[Sam Blixt]

Hi Ishbel,
 
From the database of PLF I found that Anders Gustaf Niklasson died 1910, Sept. 26 in Larum, Hannäs.
 
Look also after Hannäs in following address:
http://www.lantmateriet.com/ksindex.htm
 
Type Hannäs and choose Sök and will You got a good map over Hannäs parish, there You also can see Larum.
 
Regards/Sam Blixt/PLF/Oskarshamn

[Ishbel Cormack]

Sam: The map site is great and thanks for the death date.
Would you check to see if Nils Gustaf Andersson born July 29,1846 died in the period you have records for? He was Anders Gustaf's oldest son and I think the only son that did not go to N. America.

[Sam Blixt]

Hi Ishbel,
 
There is no death date, but hi married with Klara Susanna Johansdotter, 1895, June 1, and they got a daughter Maria Theresia, 1896, April, 27.
 
They lived in Larum at that time.
 
Regards
 
Sam Blixt/PLF/Oskarshamn

[Anders Bockgård]

Tryserum-Hannäs Kulturhistoriska Stiftelse:
 
Stiftelsen har ett arkiv med ca 5000 handlingar från 1620-1920.
De största samlingarna är: Skrickerum, Tryserums sn; Larum, Hannäs; Skårsjö, Tryserum; Danebo, Gryt; Heja-Kulefall, Ö. Ryd; Vammarsmåla, Valdemarsvik; Sontorp, Ö. Ny; Odenstomta, Kuddby;  
Bjärkebo, Hannäs.
Arkivet har även spridda handlingar från Gärdsnäs, Solvestad, Bredal och Falla i Hannäs sn; L. Tryserum, Knappekulla och Gållösa i Tryserums sn; Näs i Ringarums sn; Tåby, Kåknö och Skärnäs i Ö. Ryds sn; Linneberga i Å sn; Hjärterum i Kuddby sn.
 
Stiftelsen ger ut årsboken Gård och släkt sedan 1996.
 
Information om stiftelsen och böckerna finns på http://home.swipnet.se/bockgard/ (klicka på Tryserum-Hannäs Kulturhist. Stift.)

[Ishbel Cormack]

Pernilla Bollman: I am sorry for not thanking you for your message of June 12. Would you mind writing it in English so I can get the detail correct. Thanks.

[Pernilla Bollman]

Ishbel, my message of June 12 was not an answer, but a question regarding ancestors of whom I know very little. Did you recognize any of the names, by any chance ?
I was asking about a Stina Jaensdotter born possibly 11/4 1777 in Hannäs according to Ukna hfl 1826-30. There it also says that her husband Peter Andersson (born in Tryserum) and two sons came from Hannäs in 1827. Son Johan born in Gärdserum 1808, son Anders born 1813.
Now I might add that PLF has confirmed that Stina Jonsdotter was born 17770411 in Hannäs,
Parents: Jonas Olofsson and Sara Nilsd. in Målen, Hannäs. But according also to PLF the mothers name might well be Sara Jaensd. There is a Jonas Olofsson and a Sara Jaensd married in Hannäs 17721028. Both from Torp.

[Mats Brusman]

Svar på Maj-Britt Sundins fråga:
Min far, född 1940 och uppväxt i Hannäs, tror att lärarinnan hette Ester Larsson.

[Anne Johnson Moreland]

I was appreciative to learn that Hannas socken is located in Smaland. There's been confusion with the one contact I have in Sweden.
 
I am interested in Johan Sigfried Hallgren b 10Dec 1866 in Hannas. His parents, Jonas Peter Hallgren b 3 Feb 1840 in Ostergotland(that's all I have), and Carolina Hammar b Feb 1844 in Kalmar lan, Smaland(I have no parish).  
They emigrated May 1880 to Omaha, Nebraska.
 
I have no information on a village they left from.
Carl Mauritz Hallgren, Johan's brother writes that they sold a small red log cottage called Landbohof.  
 
I would like to go further with this and would appreciate any help, and would be grateful for English responses since my Swedish is very limited.

[Ishbel Cormack]

Pernilla: I found a marriage in Hannäs Records for a Jean Olss. in Målen and C.Lena Nilsdotter
Oct. 15,1769. They had a daughter, Stina, born April 11, 1777. The father's name was written Olofss.in that birth record as in the other birth records of his children.
I am posting this as I have had some trouble with my email so if you don't get my email with more info. let me know.(It should be OK now)
Ishbel

[Pernilla Bollman]

Ishbel,
I did recieve your mail - thank you very much. The mothers name, C. Lena Nilsdotter is not the same as the name registered at PLF, where she is called Sara Nilsdotter. That is strange. Is it possible to interpret the name as Sara ? Is the name indistinctly written or in some way blurred ? Anyway, it seems to be the right family, doesn't it ? Especially since they lived at Målen all along, which is the place mentioned at Stina Jaensdotters birth, and the other children were also born there. And since you found the other couple Jonas and Sara, and they didn't have a daughter Stina on April 11th 1777.When it comes to the marriage of Stina Jaensdotter and Peter/Per Andersson, I suppose they could have married at Gärdserum or Ukna. I will check this up later.  
About the child of your Anna Stina Lorensdotter; there was no mention of the child in the “Saköreslängd”. All it said was that she was guilty of “lönskaläge”. When it comes to children taking their stepfathers name, I really don't know if this was common or not. I know that my ggm, who was an illegitimate child, used the name of her biological father (she was born in Ukna in 1897). I suppose there is a good chance of this Carl Fredrik Lind being the biological father of Anna Charlotta Lind, since he married Lorensdotter not too long after the birth of Anna Charlotta ? I will look for his name in the Saköreslängd next week, and let you know if I find him.
Best regards, Pernilla

[Anders Bockgård]

Answer to Anne Johnson Moreland
LANDBOHOV is (still) a cottage (torp) under Solvestad village in Hannäs parish. It is situated beautiful beside the Vindommen large lake and the old way between Tryserum and Hannäs.

[Anne Johnson Moreland]

To Anders Bockgård-
Thank you so much for the information on Landbohov.My brother travels to Sweden on business and will be sure to try to find it.  
I also am wondering if there still is a farm/cottage(torp), called Lofsveden. The Hammars and Hellgrens lived there at least from 1853-1869.
The also lived in Carlskog from 1869-1873. These all appear to be in Solvestad village.
 
Update on family:
Jonas Peter Hellgren's birthplace is Gistad, mother, Lena Caisa Moberg, b.5/2/1816, O.Ryd., both in Östergötland.
 
Carolina Hammar's Parents:  
father: Johan Erik Jaensson Hammar, b. 8/27/1815
Ed parish. (I have ordered the films for Västra Ed, but could be Östra Ed?---Does anyone know why the clergy used just Ed? Were they one parish back then?)
mother: Carin Pettersdotter, b. 6/12/1815, Hannäs
 
Carin's parents-
father: Petter Breman
mother: Maja Stina Walstrom, b. 1786
 
This is all I have now.

[Anne Johnson Moreland]

As a follow-up to my last message....I found Johan Erik Jaensson in the Västra Ed födde records. I cannot read his mother's last name, but hope to get the husförshörslangd records to get more info.

[Anders Bockgård]

Answer to Anne Johnson Moreland.
Lövsveden and K(C)arlskog are still cottages under Solvestad in Hannäs.

[Anne Johnson Moreland]

Tack så mycket Anders!!
 
Is there anyplace I can get a map of the area(Solvestad village) so I can find these cottages?
You did describe where Landbohov was. Are Lövsveden and Karlskog close by?
 
Anne

[Anders Bockgård]

Anne!
 
You can get a map on www.lantmateriet.com, kartor, search Hannäs or Solvestad.
 
My side is www.tryserumgardar.se, where you can find books about Hannäs.
 
My farm Nämndemansgården, Skrickerum is situated only 4 kilometer from Solvestad (1900 6 farms and 10-20 cottage, 2000 only 2 farms and some cottage)

[Håkan Thuresson]

Hej Har frågor ang. släkt till Sven Johan Niklasson 1822-1903 g.m. Clara Sofia Hertzog 1824-1901. Kan han vara en bror till Anders Gustaf Niklasson 1821-1910 som diskuteras på denna sida?
Finns det några uppgifter om detta?  
 
Mvh Håkan

[Sam Blixt]

Hej Håkan!
 
Med hjälp av PLF's databas kunde jag se att de inte är bröder.
Sven Johan Niklassons föräldrar heter Niclas Jonsson och Stina Lisa Johansdotter, Hagen Ekevik, Ukna
 
Anders Gustaf Niklasons föräldrar är Niklas Pettersson och Maja Lena Nilsdotter, Larum, Hannäs.
 
MVH/Sam Blixt/PLF/Oskarshamn

[Eva Carlson]

Hej !
Jag undrar över en kvinna som föddes i Hannäs och hette Hulda Maria Emerentia Nilsson och var född 1893-04-24 och död 1965-04-05 i Björsäter. Hon var gift med Axel Leonard Eger och de hade tillsammans fyra barn. Jag hittar henne inte .
Jag undrar över om hon hade några syskon och vad hennes föräldrar hette och när dom var födda osv. Är det någon som känner till denna kvinna?  
Tacksam för all hjälp jag kan få!
  MVH Eva

[Sam Blixt]

Hej Eva!
 
I PLF's databas fanns Hulda Maria Emerentia den 24/4 1893, född i Sjöändan, Hannäs. Fader okänd, modern var Katarina Mathilda Karlsdotter, 26 år.
 
Jag fann troligen även henne, i så fall är hon född den 2/8 1867 i Löpgölslund, Gärdserum, men detta måste Du kontrollera i husförhörslängden för Hannäs.
 
MVH/Sam Blixt/PLF/Oskarshamn

[Ishbel Cormack]

Were the following people born in Hannäs parish?
Their parents were Elna Maria Svensson and Axel Emil Niord Andersson.
Karl Adolf born July 1, 1902
Ture Emil born April 23 1904
Anna Linnea born March 16, 1906
 
Thank you
Ishbel