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Författare Ämne: Lindstedt Family in Malmohus  (läst 802 gånger)

2022-05-05, 23:32
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Utloggad Claude Hire

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I am researching for a friend for his Swedish relative. Grandmother was Emma August Lindstedt. b 13 Jan 1886 in Fulltofta, Malmohus, Sverige. Her parents are Carl Lindstedt b 1845 in Hallorod, Skane, Sverige and Nelly Nillsson Gronberg b 1847 in Faringtotfa nr 2.
Carl died in Fultofta, Malmohus 14 April 1897 from Nervfeber (Typhoid Fever). Nelly died 6 Jun 1897 in Fultofta from Nervfeber.
Emma had several siblings Axel, Gerda, Alfred, Ida, Conrad, Hilda Odopt and the youngest Carl Oskar Emanuel born 8 Nov 1892. I have Swedish records for Emma and her siblings. Most of these siblings emigrated to the US.


Carl Oskar was only 5 when his parents passed. We have information of an Alma Lindstedt b 1863 who married a Julius Tetzloff in 1895. We have info that Carl Oskar was living with Alma and Julius in the US. Emma originally emigrated from Sweden in 1882. She was born in Sweden in 1863. Records show Carl emigrated in 1898. My supposition is that Alma is possibly Carl's aunt and Carl Sr sibling and since Carl's parents Carl and Nelly both died in 1897 that Alma became Carl's guardian. It appears that Carl Jr when naturalized took Julius last name Tetzloff. 


Carl Lindstedt Tetzloff's married Anita Reed.  Anita wrote Hilda Linstedt ( Emma's sister) a letter in 1943 so we have a connection. So we are looking for birth info on Alma to see her relationship to Hilda and Emma. Also we are looking for Carl Lindstedt Sr parents. That info would provide the info we need to verify relationships that Alma is Carl Sr sister. Or possibly related in another way.

Alma Lindstedt may be Selma Lindstedt

Thanks in advance


Claude Hire

2022-05-06, 11:08
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i found a Selma Karolina (Carolina) Lindstedt born in 1865 29 june in Sjörup. She emigrated 1 may 1891 to  North America.
Her father: Gustaf Eberhard Lindstedt born 1831 18 february.
Her mother: Maria Fredrika Carolina Malmros born 1834 23 september.
i can´t find the connection.

2022-05-06, 15:13
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Hello Claude


I have found this in Hallaröd about Carls family in the housholdsreckords  Hallaröd Malmö hus yaer 1856-1863 page 25.


Jonas Lindstedt b 8 of January 1808 in Hallaröd
Hanna Margareta Bollig b 6 of April 1806 Stödhof


Johannes Richter b 27 of June 1834 Hallaröd
Erkman b 29 of November 1835 Hallaröd
Christoffer b 19of June 1840 Hallaröd
Gustav b 19 of June 1849 Hallaröd
Johanna b 12 of November 1842 Hallaröd
Your Carl b 19 of October 1845 Hallaröd


Father Jonas died in  1 of November 1875 in Hallaröd
Mother Hanna Margareta died in 10 of June 1878 in Hallaröd


// Ulla :-)

2022-05-06, 18:47
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Hello Ulla


Thank you for your reply. Your info on Carl's parents appears to be correct. I did have Carl's birthdate as 19 October 1845 based on his Swedish death record. Perhaps Selma Lindstedt is the daughter of one of Carl's male siblings. Or there could be another explanation. Will continue to search.


We just found a petition for naturalization for Carl Oscar Emanuel Lindstedt (Tetzlaff) His birthdate is 8 Nov 1892 which is same as Swedish Birth Record as son of Carl Lindstedt and Nelly Gronberg in Fulltofta, Malmohus,(Skane), Sverige.  However the Naturalization form lists his birthplace in Sweden as Haggenas, Sweden which is approximately 1000 kilometers north of Malmo. Interesting!!!


Thanks again.






2022-05-07, 01:58
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Based on info provided by Ulla, I added Carl's parents Johannes and Hanna as well as Carl's siblings to our Ancestry file.
The Oldest child was named Johannes Richter. I researched him and found he had twin daughters Ingrid Elin and Selma Josefina born 5 Oct 1862 in Hoor, Malmohus Sweden.


This may be the Selma we are looking for. She would Carl Jrs 1st cousin though 30 years older. So again after Carl's parents died Selma in some way became his guardian.


All of the  children of Carl and Hanna are name Lindsted except for the oldest. This child was named Johannes Richter. I believe the Richter name comes from his Father's mother side of the family. Johanns father is Sven and mother is Johanna Richter. Is it common practice in Sweden to name a child in this manner?



2022-05-07, 10:27
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Hello Claude


I have been following Carl and Selma and I have not found anything that Selma was some kind of gardian to Carl he was 30 years old when his father died.  Selma died in 10 of Mars 1911 in Hässleholm of a brain hemorrhage she worked as a waitress in a café she was not maried.


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2022-05-07, 17:41
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I have followed your search.
At familysearch I find a marriage between Julius Tetcloff and Selma Olsen on 27 April 1895 in Colorado.  Is Colorado a relevant state?


This wife Selma is born in November 1863 (Sweden) according to Census 1900.  Julius born in July 1850 in Germany. Married for 5 years.
One child,still living (Census 1900) Carl 8 year, born in Sweden.  I guess this is the family.


So, perhaps you should look for Selma Olsson, perhaps immigrating in 1882.


2022-05-07, 18:03
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Maybe I' ve found the connection.
There is a baby girl born 26 November 1863 in Färingtofta. SELMA  Her father: Ola Torstensson, so her name will be Olsson.
Her mother' s name Elna Grönberg born 1828.


You mentioned Nelly Grönberg as the mother of Carl Oscar born 1892 Nov 8.


Acc. to famiysearch this Selma Olsen born 26 Nov 1863 is mentioned in Kansas, US

2022-05-07, 19:25
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We just found a petition for naturalization for Carl Oscar Emanuel Lindstedt (Tetzlaff) His birthdate is 8 Nov 1892 which is same as Swedish Birth Record as son of Carl Lindstedt and Nelly Gronberg in Fulltofta, Malmohus,(Skane), Sverige.  However the Naturalization form lists his birthplace in Sweden as Haggenas, Sweden which is approximately 1000 kilometers north of Malmo. Interesting!!!

He was born at a place called Häggenäs in Fulltofta parish.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0064887_00075

2022-05-07, 19:46
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Thank you for clarifying Carl's Birthplace. Just like in the US there are many locations with the same name throughout the country. Carl's Swedish birth record does not mention Haggenas.


I tried to attach file of Carl's birth, dont know if it made it.
But it list Carl born 8 Nov 1892 to Carl Lindstedt and Nelly Gronberg.
Fodelsbok for Fulltofta, frosamling Frosta ?, Prosteri Lunds,  Stift Malmo




2022-05-07, 20:02
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2022-05-07, 21:00
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Thank you Sven, First I have seen Swedish Baptism records. I see the witness for Carl is his father. Please translate the Witness info. I dont see his last name Lindstedt.

2022-05-07, 23:23
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Here's the death record for Selma Tetzloff from Familysearch.org.  Her birthday (11/26) is the same as the Selma Olsson found by Marianne Karlsson though the year is off.
California Death Index, 1940-1997 California Death Index, 1940-1997

Name   Selma Tetzlaff
Sex   Female
Death Date   23 Nov 1956
Death Place   Orange, California, United States
Death Place (Original)   ORANGE
Birth Date   26 Nov 1860
Birthplace   Other Country.
Selma Olsson according to the Emibas CD emigrated in 1882

Post 396478
Olsson, Selma
Piga inhyses (unmarried woman)
b. 11/26/1863 in Färingtofta, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
Emigrated 5/17/1882
from Karup, Färingtofta, Kristianstads län (Skåne)
to Amerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 192
Emibas migration file ID: Färingtofta L 1882 006
Selma's mother as noted by Marianne was Elna Grönberg born 4/15/1828 in Äsphult, Kristianstads län. 
Source Färingtofta kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/LLA/13100/C I/6 (1862-1893) Bild 28 and
Färingtofta kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13100/A I/13 (1861-1865) page 2
Elna Grönberg had a sister Nelly Grönberg born 1/31/1847.  Source: Färingtofta kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13100/A I/10 (1847-1850) page 143
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0024272_00151
So it's correct that Selma and Carl Oscar were first cousins as their mothers were sisters.

Elna and Nelly Grönberg's Father was Nils Nilsson Grönberg b. 8/2/1794 Melby and their mother was Hanna Jönsdotter b. 5/7/1807 Äsphult.  Source: Färingtofta kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13100/A I/9 (1842-1846) page 242

2022-05-08, 05:07
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Thanks so much Carl. I had been following that lead, but you have solved the mystery of Selma. Based on your info I also found Selma's sister Emma born in 1867. She also emigrated to the US and was in Colorado in 1900. She married a Peter Anderson. A daughter Georgia married a John Chapman who was theater critic in New York.


Thanks again for your research.

2022-05-08, 10:11
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#27
Born Nov 8
Baptised Nov 20
Male
Carl Oskar Emanuel (Their tenth child)
Father: Lindstedt, Carl, Shoemaker
Mother: Grönberg, Nelly, Wife
Married 15 Sep 1868 = 24 years
Nr 3 Häggenäs, page 92
Father's age 47
Mother's age 45
The midwife was examined
Susceptrix: Wife Gertrud Persson in Eslöf (Eslöv)
Witnesses: Farm leaseholder Anders Hansson same place,
Dairyman Axel F Lindstedt in Häggenäs

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