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Författare Ämne: Pehr Ersson Sist Born 1795  (läst 717 gånger)

2021-10-16, 01:20
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Utloggad Georgina Smith

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Thanks for pervious answers but now I have more questions. Also I add his military name of Sist.
In other message I mentioned his birth  record but it is frustrating that Hfl has listed it differently. What should I do about this?


I did find him with his parents in Osa 1776-1814 Page 175. I found two births in Ås [this] Parish that could be his father Eric. But how can I know which one it would be correct?
 I search all of 1766 and found one Eric of top of page 185 and another Eric on bottom of page 187.
They moved but from page 175 I do not understand exactly when. I have tried to search more church records for his parents but no success.


I have found him Per Sist with wife and dotters in Alsen Parish.
Alsen
1843-1854 P. 138


Alsen
1855-1861 P. 151




I will appreciate any suggestions that would help me find his parents and siblings. Hope what I have written is understandable.


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Georgina

2021-10-16, 22:53
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Hello, I think the parents would be Nils Ersson and Brita Jonsdotter, who you also can find in the middle of 1776-1814 Page 175.Erik the son of Nils Jonsson and Ursilla Ersdotter seems to have died 1793 as you can see on page 161 in the book of AI:2 (1755-1776) and C:1 (1727-1810)  Sida: 306

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2021-10-17, 01:56
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Thanks for help! I have been trying to understand what you have written. You think Nils Ersson and Brita Jonsdotter are the parents of Eric Nilsson, whose birth record I found in Ås on the top of page 185 in Ås births 1727-1810. It looks correct since they are in the middle of the page in Hfl 1776-1814 Page 175.
On birth record Page 185 of Eric Nilsson born 21 March 1766 it has death. He is father of Pehr Ersson Sist, born 1795. Note on birth for Eric Nilsson for death looks like 1844, I searched but cannot find the death.


You wrote, Erik the son of Nils Jonsson and Ursilla Ersdotter seems to have died 1793. I add, therefore he could not be father of Pehr born 1795. Thanks for finding that info!
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2021-10-17, 07:10
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The muster rolls does not reveal the father's name of the soldier Per Sist, so that is unknown to us. The suggested identification is not valid as Per E. and his family moved to Gärde in the parish of Aspås year 1800 (he got married 1821).

Per Sist is mostly said to be borne in Jämtland but is twice mentioned to be from the province of Hälsingland (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0028730_00037#?c=&m=&s=&cv=36&xywh=-247%2C367%2C3250%2C2489) (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0028731_00049#?c=&m=&s=&cv=48&xywh=714%2C873%2C3486%2C2670)

2021-10-17, 12:13
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Thanks Karl Göran Eriksson. You say his family moved to Gärde in Aspås parish. Who are in his family? Then he got married in 1821. Name of wife? I have tried to find them in Hfl but no success. If you know the Hfl, I hope you will send it to me.


Many thanks!
Georgina


2021-10-17, 18:43
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Thanks again Karl Göran Eriksson! I really appreciate your help!
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2021-10-17, 21:13
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You wrote in other message : Then he got married in 1821. Name of wife? I have tried to find them in Hfl but no success. If you know the Hfl, I hope you will send it to me. You send link to A1:3 P. 97. I found parents of Per Sist but not him. How do you know he got married in 1821? I have looked in all pages of Gärde. If it was Per/Pehr Ersson Sist married, that wife would have died because he married my relative the beginning of 1842.
[/size]1817-1827 A1:4 Page 11 is Nils Ericksson with parents in household
[/size]Pehr Ersson/ Eriksson is no where to be found.

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I plead for more help!


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2021-10-18, 07:32
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2021-10-18, 11:01
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You will also find Pehr Sist in Ås parish:
Ås kyrkoarkiv, A I/4 (1825-1835), bildid: A0014322_00163, sida 166  https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0014322_00163
In military record Pehr Sist is unmarried June 22 1842! https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0028734_00060
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2021-10-18, 15:31
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Hi Sune!
Thanks for information! In second military record you attach the ogift is incorrect.


His marriage record is found on Riksarivet: Alsen, Jämtland 1811-1860 P. 211, married 16 January first marriage in 1842. The marriages are after births.


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2021-10-18, 15:44
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The record says "ogift" but your correction is correct. It is probable that Pehr Sist was unmarried until 1842.

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2021-10-18, 20:32
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Perhaps I was not clear enough earlier. Anyway, the assumption that soldier Per Sist was born in Ås is totally wrong. Pehr b. in may 1795 at Ösa and his namesake b. in may 1796 at Backen both became crofters. They died 1885 in p. of Lockne and 1884 in p. of Ås respectively.

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