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Författare Ämne: Bosjökloster  (läst 2806 gånger)

2014-05-31, 09:28
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She is called Ihs (=inhyses) Enkan Hanna, which means The housed widow Hanna.

2014-05-31, 18:34
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Thank you again, I guess I can't take that as a for sure that she is Anna's mother yet..Will keep looking!

2014-06-10, 23:11
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Kan någon hjälpa till med översättning Bosjökloster CI: 2 1755-1806 bild 65 sid ​​59 post för Christina Nilsdotter Stangbergs
 
Can someone help with translation Bosjokloster CI:2 1755-1806 image 65 page 59  entry for Christina Nilsdotter Stangbergs
 

 
 
och posten för Nils Stångberg CI: 2 1755-1806 bild 77 sid 71
 
and the entry for Nils Stangberg CI:2 1755-1806 image 77 page 71
 

2014-06-11, 07:54
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1794 April 1st gave Chirstina Nilsdotter in Stångberg House birth to an illegimate boy who was given emergency baptism and was called Nils. The child died before confirmamtion could be given (at church).
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1768 Dnca 25 p T (Nov 20th) was buried Kierstina Pärsdotter's illegimate child from Lillö N. (called) Nils dead soon after birth.
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1769 Dnica Septuag (Jan. 22) was buried the coachman Nils Stångber's daughter from Hanstorp House N. (called) Kirstina who died on Jan. 14th from consumtion (tvinsot) soon 4 years old.
/Bengt Nordahl

2014-06-11, 16:14
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Just a little correction. The placename Hanstorp, should be Stanstorp.

2014-06-12, 19:40
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Thank you Paul and Bengt!
 
When looking for the marriage of Nils Stangberg to my ancestor Hanna Jeppasdotter I found an entry in 1784... I did find a Nils Jonsson and Bengta Olasdotter ? from Stanstorp 1766 and then a second entry in in 1780 and I think also in Stanstorp but not sure if this is a death record?  The death of an earlier daughter  in above post leads me to think Bengta may be a first wife.  Still no idea of the birth date or place of Nils Stangberg and the HFLs dont go that far back.
 
Bosjökloster-CI-2-1755-1806-Image-127-page-120

Bosjökloster-CI-2-1755-1806-Image-127-page-120    

Bosjökloster-CI-2-1755-1806-Image-128-page-121  

2014-06-13, 08:35
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Rhonda,
 
Nils Stångberg's wife Hanna (often called Jeppsdotter) could in fact be the Hanna Persdotter mentioned in the marriage of Nils Stångberg 1784. According to the household records she was born 16/4 1749 in Grönby which is approx. 50 km from Bosjökloster. This was a huge distance in the late 1700s and the parrish priest most likely didn't know her background entirely. Her father's name could have been for instance Per Jeppsson or Jeppa Persson (or other circumstances) and this became mixed up along the road.
 
Furthermore the parrish of Grönby has the birth records intact, but the annex parrish Anderslöv, has birth records starting 1757, so if she was born in Grönby's annex, then her birth record is lost. One way that might lead forward is to have a close look at the mantalslängd from 1765 or 1766, which are very detailed, and scan Anderslöv for all Pers and Jeppas who has daughters by the name of Hanna around 15-16 years old. It's worth a try, but, if you haven't done it, check Grönby first.

2014-06-13, 09:00
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You are right Rhonda that Nils Stångberg was married twice.
 
In Bosjökloster CI:1 Bild 110/sid 105 you find the following  entry in Swedish with old spelling and old words:
1763 Dnca 2 p T (June 12th)lystes första gången till äktenskap emellan drängen ok kusken (the coachman) Nils Stångberg på B. Closter ok Pigan Ana Knutsdotter från Nyby. Copulerade (married) d 5 Julij. (Dräng and piga means unmarried)
 
I think they got their first child in 1765.
CI:2 Bild 21/sid 16: Dom Palmarum (March 31st) lät kusken Nils Stångberg döpa et barn N Hiertu (Gertrud) fött (born) d 27 Matij. Mat (mother) Ana Knutsdotter.
 
Anna died 58 years old in 1782 when Nils no longer was a coachman.
CI:2 Bild 85/sid 79: d 23 aug. afled husmannen Nils Stångbergs hustru i Stanstorps hus, Anna Knutsdotter af en tärande siukdom (wasting illness) ok begrofs Dnica 11 p Tr (Aug 11th) 58 år gl.
 
Nils married again in 1784.
1784 3die Söndagen i fastan afkunnades till ägtenskap emellan Enklingen (the widower) ok husmannen Nils Stångberg i Oråkrahuset ok Pigan Hanna Persdotter på Bosjökloster. Copulerades annandag påsk (April 12th).
The clergyman must have written Persdotter instead of Jeppasdotter!
 
1785 Dnca 3 p Trinit (June 12th) lät Nils Stångberg från Oråkrahuset döpa et barn N. Anna som föddes d 3 Junij. Mat Hanna Jeppesdotter. (The child got the name of Nils' first wife).
 
I hope this is what you ask for.
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2014-06-13, 16:31
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Thank you Bengt!!! Good to know I was partially correct...knowing virtually no Swedish and the old writing is very difficult I'm glad I've been getting some things correct, albeit mostly guesses confirmed by you and others.  
 
The only Population Register I see for Grondby is for 1940's, or am I looking at the wrong thing (I'm on ArkivDigital). Is there someplace else online where I can find them.
 
Also, by Anna's age at death, I guess it is safe to assume that Nils would have been approximately the same age, and quite a bit older than Hanna so he would have been born about mid 1720's. Still trying to find his death record which hopefully will give his age.
 
And, from my earlier post and your answer there would appear to be at least one other child  to Nils and Anna named Christina who had the illegitimate child in 1794.  
 
Slowly I will get this family sorted out.  Thank you for help.

2014-06-13, 18:55
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I have found Nils Stangberg's death record.  Could I please get a translation.
 
Bosjokloster CI:3 image 18 page 25
 

2014-06-13, 21:28
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I beg your pardon. The child that died 14/1 1769 was Hiertru born 27/5 1765. At a quick look I find a girl born 9/10 1768, and she was called Kierstina.
(CI:2 Bild 28/sid 22) 1768 Oct 12th. The coachman at Bosjökloster Nils Stonberg had a child christened called Kierstena, born on the 9th the same month. Mother Anna Knutsdotter. If she didn't die she must be the Christina who had the illegitimate child in 1794.  
 
I don't know much about Grönby, but it belonged to Vemmenhögs härad. To find the mtl (mantalslängder), you look for Malmöhus läns landskontor (del 1) at Arkiv. To find the first mtl in AD that is from 1765. click at EIII:1.  In Register at Bild 6 you find Vemmenhögs härad   and there you go find Grönby parish starting in page 95 I think.
 
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2014-06-13, 22:23
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Nils Stångberg's death record.
1811 June, dead 21, buried 28 Nils Stångberg from Oråkra Huset, 88 years of age, died of decrepitude.
/Bengt

2014-06-19, 22:24
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I think I finally found it but not sure if I'm right or what it says!!
 
Malmöhus-läns-landskontor-(del-1)-EIII-3-1766-1766-Image-108-page-100  Entry 10
 

2014-06-20, 18:00
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I'm not sure if I know what you are looking for, but you have found
farm nr 10 in the farming village of Hynsinge (Hönsinge), with 10 persons:
Jeppa Rasmusson, H (wife), dr Pär, dott Järtru, Son Ola, Rasmus och Jöns, dott Anna och Karna, pk Jöns.
Drängen Pär is a farm-hand like the younger pojken Jöns.
 
Jeppa's wife must be Anna Larsdotter, as Jeppa Rasmusson & Anna Larsdotter married at Grönby in 1746, and in Jeppa Rasmusson's inventory from 1789 (Vemmenhög FIIa:39 page 95) is his widow Anna Larsdotter with the following children: Son Rasmus 28 years, Jöns 25, Nils 18, daughter Anna 38 married to horse-soldier Grönqvist, daughter Signe 20.
Anna married to Grönqvist in 1781.
 
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2014-06-21, 13:58
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Drat, I thought maybe this was the mantalslängder record for my Hanna Jeppasdotter.  I've gone through several years of it and thi was the closest that my weary eyes found.  Thank you anyway, I shall keep trying.
 
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2014-06-21, 15:17
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Rhonda,
 
I guess you have ruled out that she was actually born 16/4 1749 in Grönby?

2014-06-21, 19:58
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It seems to be indicating that unless my anglo eyes are not seeing it or the family moved before 1765.  
 
I also checked  Anderslöv but no luck there either.  I will have to check the Bosjokloster ones and see if there is anything in them from before her marriage.  
 
or see if there is anything on Nils Stangberg...haven't really started on trying to figure his parents yet. I was hoping he'd be in the Centrala Soldatregistret but he isn't.  This couple on this line may be my brick wall.

2014-06-22, 17:42
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Rhonda,
 
I have a notification in my research that Nils Stångberg's mother in law Marna Larsdotter died 1793 in Bosjökloster. Maybe that could help you.

2014-06-23, 05:01
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Hi Paul,
Thank you,, I will look into that. As it's after his 2nd marriage that could me one of my great grandmothers....I've spent the day tracking the mantalslängd for Bosjokloster from 1767 until the HFL's took over..(my eyes are very crossed right now!) but I have found all that pertain to Nils Stangberg so it was worth while.  Thanfully he never moved til the 1800's.  Now I have to sort out which ones have additional info.
 
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2014-06-23, 18:36
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Malmöhus-läns-landskontor-del-1-EIII-42-1790-1790-Image-8320-page-825
 
 

 
Malmöhus-läns-landskontor-del-1-EIII-45-1793-1793-Image-8790-page-867
 

 
I found Marna on the 1792 and 1793 mantalslängd, also her death record, but not much info.
 

 
Says she was 71 on death record but 65 on the 1793 mantalslängd.  I have looked for her in 1791 but cannot find her unless she is on the 1790 mantalslängd above with a few other extras not there in previous years...can I get some help deciphering them please?
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2014-09-03, 22:15
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Min släkting Anna Nilsson (f.1876-04-21) flyttar in till Bosjökloster 1909, och jag finner henne med man och barn i Bosjökloster AII:2 1905-1916 Bild-3110-sid-301 på adressen Tassahus, men de är sedan överstrykna utan någon anteckning.
Är det någon som vet var de tar vägen, eller har någon idé om var jag ska leta.
 
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2014-09-04, 08:31
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Familjen finns inflyttad i Gudmuntorp 23/10 1909 - se Gudmuntorp AII:4 (1908-1929) uppslag 470.
Hälsar vänligen
Maud

2014-09-05, 15:12
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Tack Maud.
Var det en tillfällighet att du hittade dem dår, eller hur bar du dig åt?

2014-09-05, 20:17
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Fann familjen i Gudmuntorp via folkräkningen 1910 (Svar).
Hälsar vänligen
Maud

2015-10-19, 06:40
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Hej
 
   I går kväll skrev jag in en fråga I dag är min fråga borta varför undrar jag.
 
    Tolkning. Bosjökloster AII:3 (1916-1923) bild 1340/ s.124  Elinfarm under Fogdarp  rad. 7 Viktor Nilsson på rad 7.
    till höger stå det att hans familj flytta till  Hufva ?  1917  13/11-  Var ligger Hufva ?. Ingen sn. Finns inte i Arkiv Digital.
 
    By i någon grannsocken som jag inte känner till
 
    Är det någon som vill kolla och förklara  namnet på orten som stå angiven och var det ligger
 
    Tacksam för svar
 
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2015-10-19, 09:52
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Hej,
Hurva är en tätort i Eslövs kommun och kyrkby i Hurva socken i Skåne.
 
t.o.m. 1961 annexförsamling i Gudmuntorps och Hurva pastorat.
 
1962-2001 annexförsamling i Gudmuntorps, Hurva och Bosjöklosters pastorat.
 
Församlingen uppgick 2002 i nybildade Ringsjö församling.
 
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