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Författare Ämne: Help with a tax record in Järbo parish  (läst 316 gånger)

2020-01-07, 14:29
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Utloggad Douglas A Nelson

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Hello,  I am trying to find the birth record for Samuel Mattesson near Järbo parish. The attached tax record is from 1744 in Järbo (Mantalslängder 1642-1820, Jarbo (1744), sida 352).  The third person listed at Skällsäter is (I believe) Mattes Swansson, the husband of Stina Svensdotter Dallöf. They were married in Järbo on 29 June 1742 and their first child, Samuel (my ancestor), may have been born somewhere other than Järbo (their next 5 children were born there).  Do the marginal comments next to Mattes’ name give some indication of where he moved from and where Samuel might have been born?

Thank you in advance for your help,
Doug Nelson

(I posted a version of this request yesterday with 2 tax records, but I think I solved the problem I had with one of them.)

2020-01-08, 20:31
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The marriage between Mathes (Mats) Svensson from Bön in Rågg(ärd) parish and Christina Svensdotter Dahllöf from St(ora) Skälsätter took place 29 Jan(uary) 1742.
Järbo (P) C:2 (1720-1742) Bild 177 / sid 345 (AID: v10306.b177.s345, NAD: SE/GLA/13263)

Note that the birth/married/death records are far from complete.

Here is a map over the parishes in Dalsland
http://www.varmlandsrotter.se/dalsland-sockenkarta.gif


2020-01-09, 09:54
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Thank you for the interpretation of their marriage record.  If someone could please translate the comments in the margin the tax record I posted I would be grateful.  I think I recognize the word "från," but I don't recognize the location (?) after that.

I looked in the Råggärd parish birth records for Samuel's and Mattes' births, but as was noted, they are incomplete back then.

Thank you again!
Doug N

2020-01-10, 00:42
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Most records are incomplete at this time, even Järbo's. Your ancestor may still  be born here.

Here are some other tax records, from archive Sundals Häradsskrivare:
Sundals häradsskrivare (P) FIa:40 (1741) Bild 520 / sid 97 (AID: v224439.b520.s97, NAD: SE/GLA/11204)
Sundals häradsskrivare (P) FIa:41 (1743) Bild 500 / sid 93 (AID: v224440.b500.s93, NAD: SE/GLA/11204)


2020-01-10, 10:03
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Thank you for the interpretation of their marriage record.  If someone could please translate the comments in the margin the tax record I posted I would be grateful.  I think I recognize the word "från," but I don't recognize the location (?) after that.

I looked in the Råggärd parish birth records for Samuel's and Mattes' births, but as was noted, they are incomplete back then.

Thank you again!
Doug N
It looks like "hustrun från Alltorp". There is an Alltorp in neighbouring Ödskölt parish, maybe that's where she is from. But I can't really see how that fits together with the marriage note from 29 jan 1742.

2020-01-10, 14:06
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Thank you both for your generous help!  I will look at the tax records you referenced next time I have access to ArkivDigital.  Those years don't seem to be available at the Riksarkivet.

The marginal reference to Alltorp in the tax record I posted is indeed puzzling.  I will need to look into this some more. 

Thank you again.

Doug N

2020-01-10, 15:04
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At arkiv digital there is an interesting house exam made in May 1742. At Böön in Råggärd both Swen Ewensson and his wife Kirstin Mathesdotter was dead. They had four children, Mathes and Oluf and Ingierd and Ingrin. You can also confirm some of this with info from Tax records from Sundals häradsskrivare. Mathes is representing Bön along with his mother for several years, but when he moves to Skällsäter in Järbo he hands over Bön to brother Oluf. In 1741 Mathes mother was 70 years old, I don't know how accurate that is.

2020-01-10, 16:40
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Thank you for looking into this more!  May I ask what volume in Råggärds you found the house exam in 1742?  On the Arkiv Digital website I see that the parish records (AI:1 -) only begin in 1751.  Are there some other records known as house exams?  I would like to look at them next time I work on Arkiv Digital.

I found the death records for Swen and Kerstin in the Råggärds C:3 volume in 1742 and 1741 respectively.  There it says she was 56 years old! 

It seems pretty likely that the subject of my original request, Samuel Mattesson, was born in Järbo along with his siblings, but his birth was not recorded.  It is very useful to learn about his father's likely parents.

Thank you again for all your help,
Doug N

2020-01-10, 17:18
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2020-01-10, 18:56
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Thank you again; this has been a great help!

2020-01-10, 22:14
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About the different tax records. Very simplified there are three versions:
Häradsskrivaren is the original, in Landsarkivet
Landskontoret is a clean copy, in Landsarkivet
Kammarkollegiet is also a clean copy, in Riksarkvet

The document mentioned above is an inventory of a deceased's estate and a division of the inheritance. Kept in the archive of the local court of justice, here Valbo häradsrätt.


 

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