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Författare Ämne: Looking for the parents of Märtha Christina Engström  (läst 1409 gånger)

2019-10-01, 00:08
läst 1409 gånger

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Hi again. I have tried all my sources here in the USA but still unable to find the parents of Märtha Christina Engström. I appreciate any help.

Märtha Christina Engström
Birth: 25 August 1858
Ragunda, Jämtland, Sweden
Death: 11 June 1939
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States

She was married to (Sweden, Indexed Marriage Records, 1860-1947):

Name:   Nils Johan Bergwell
Gender:   Man (Male)
Age:   26
Birth Date:   28 apr 1866
Marriage Date:   18 jun 1892
Marriage Place:   Ragunda, Jämtland, Sverige (Sweden)
Spouse:   Martha Christina

I found this in the Swedish National Archives:

Engström, Märta Kristina
Census (Sweden's population) 1890
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Name Engström, Märta Kristina
home church Indal Liden
Domicile Vestanå
Contract Medelpads
County Västernorrland
Year of birth 1858
Date Parish Ragunda Jämtland County
Profession Loose maid
Relationship status Unmarried
Sex Woman
Famstkod Single
Family no 1
Page 44
Row 40
Created by National Archives SVAR-Swedish archive information

About the household
people in the household
Fam. # 1 Engström, Märta Kristina, born 1858 in Ragunda Jämtland county, Loose maid

And this:

Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930
Name:   
Märta Kristina Engström
 •
Event Type:   
Census
Event Date:   
from 1884 to 1892
Event Place:   
Liden, Västernorrland, Sweden
Event Place (Original):   
Liden, Västernorrlands, Sweden
Birth Date:   
25 Aug 1858
Birthplace:   
Ragunda
Marriage Date:   
16 Apr 1891
Volume:   
AI13
Household   Role   Sex   Age   Birthplace
Märta Kristina Engström            Ragunda
Anna Margreta Källman   Wife         Liden
Elida Kristina Gyllerqvist   Daughter         Vestanå

Thank you!

Thomas

2019-10-01, 01:52
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It is probably the child registered as Stina Märtha with parents Johan Engström and Anna Catharina Larsdotter in Krångede, Ragunda (Z) C:1 (1818-1860) Bild 1960 / sid 192 (AID: v115091.b1960.s192, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11087). At the time they are found in the Household Examination Ragunda (Z) AI:5 (1856-1861) Bild 1570 / sid 149 (AID: v115081a.b1570.s149, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11087). You have to follow them in HE to certify that it is the right person, but it is unlikely that it is not correct.

2019-10-01, 02:22
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Thank you again Leif. I did not recognize the Catharina for Stina in the baptism record. I should know better by now...

I have her parent's names but not able to find specifics about them. I did find this however:

Name:   Johan Engström
Gender:   Man (Male)
Age:   37
Birth Date:   abt 1827
Death Date:   17 aug 1864
Death Place:   Fors, Jämtland, Sverige (Sweden)

Unable to connect him to Anna Catharina Larsdotter. Will keep looking.

Thank you again.

Thomas

2019-10-01, 02:28
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Her name when Stina Märtha was born was Anna Cajsa Larsdotter, born 1830-08-14, does that help?

2019-10-01, 02:36
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I tried to find her in the Ragunda area but nothing. I mostly use Ancestry subscription service and the internet.

2019-10-01, 02:42
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She is with her parents in Ragunda (Z) AI:4 (1849-1855) Bild 900 / sid 84 (AID: v115080.b900.s84, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11087).


They married 1856-11-16 in Ragunda (Z) C:1 (1818-1860) Bild 270 / sid 23 (AID: v115091.b270.s23, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11087).

2019-10-01, 02:56
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I found her, I think:

Anna Katarina Larsdotter
1830–1880
BIRTH 14 AUG 1830 • Gevåg, Ragunda, Jämtland
DEATH 17 MAJ 1880 • Utanede, Fors, Jämtland

But she is married to:
Johan Andersson
1837–1893
BIRTH 11 FEB 1837 • Stavnäs, Värmland
DEATH 16 AUG 1893 • Utanede, Fors, Jämtland

Name:   Anna Kathar Larsdotter
Gender:   Kvinna (Female)
Residence Age:   40
Birth Date:   Abt 1831
Spouse:   Joh Andersson
Child:   Lars August

Name:   Lars August
[Lars August Andersson]
[Lars August Johansson]
Gender:   Man (Male)
Birth Date:   15 apr 1871
Birth Place:   Fors, Västernorrland, Sverige (Sweden)
Father:   Joh Andersson
Mother:   Anna Kathar Larsdotter

It seems like a lot of young men, specifically from Varmland, went to the Ragunda area and stayed and had families.

Do you know anything about her father Johan Engstrom?

2019-10-01, 03:01
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I do not have "first hand" access to parish records.

2019-10-01, 03:08
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It looks like Lars August Andersson immigrated to the USA, like his half-sibling Märtha Christina Engström, and had a family there.

2019-10-01, 03:16
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2019-10-01, 23:50
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The parish records at Riksarkivet are accessible free on the internet. Here are some links:

Birth record Stina Märtha Engström
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0036086_00204

Her family in the household records
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0036081_00164

Her parents' marriage
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0005046_00028

Family moves to Utanede in Fors 1859
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0035539_00156

In the next household records Johan dies
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0035540_00108

Johan Engström's death record 1864 in Utanede, Fors parish
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0014663_00014

Anna Katharina gets at least 3 children after Johan's death. She remarries Johan Andersson in 1871
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0014662_00015

In the birth records Johan Andersson is mentioned as the father of the first and the third child. He is probably father of the second also.


Märtha Stina (Christina) Engström marries Nils Johan Bergwall 1892
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0005191_00053

Note that the household records are not the same as a census. A census is an instant picture of the population at a certain date, mostly December 31. The hh records are running for a longer time period and all the changes are noted, births, deaths, moving in and out etc. This is the main source to follow persons through their life, backwards and forward.



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