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Författare Ämne: Looking for help to find John Henry Rosenquist  (läst 1466 gånger)

2019-08-10, 11:32
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Hi I need help, a woman from Samoa, Pacific Islands has requested my help in locating a Swedish great great grandfather of hers.
His name as listed with his Mormon Baptism in 1893 is John Henry (Johan Henrik??) Rosenquist birth 07.05.1854, Brevike, Carlsburge
father John Henry Rosenquist, mother Maria Carlson.
The family tells that he arrived in Cook Island in the 1880' and later moved to Samoa
where he married a native woman. He died in an accident at the harbour of Samoa in 1912 and is buried in Pago Pago, Samoa.

I have checked all records of Brevik, Skaraborg, and the surrounding parishes with no results, not him or his parents, all Sjomanshus
in the area and even further away, with no results at all, nothing familiar at all. The immigration records does not give any clues either.
The only records I have found are two records from Ullervad, Skaraborg telling us that Johan Henrik Rosenquist a sailor born 07.05.1854 is living in Ullervad since 1873 after having had a court case In Goteborg January 1873. I am not quite sure what the verdict
was something about a five year sabbatical.
I attach the earlier file from 1870-1875 if anyone is able to decipher what it says as birth location (I think that W. H. is Wester Haga
(Goteborg))
I would highly appreciate the help and if anyone have ideas of how to locate this person in places I might not have thought about.
I am a Danish woman living in Israel (and deal a lot with military research WW1) and not so familiar with the Swedish records.
link to small tv documentary about my research Danish subtitles

https://youtu.be/1FwSBl0rXnA


I thank in advance for any help given
Ulla

2019-08-10, 13:16
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Birth record for Johan Henrik Rosenqvist:
Born may 7 1854 (out of wedlock) in Norra Ving parish
Father: SkräddarMästare (Tailor) J.P. Rosenqvist from Mariestad (Skaraborg)
Mother: Pig. Christina Carlsson from Brevik

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0051923_00017 or
Norra Vings kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker(1849-1869), bildid: C0051923_00017, sida 13

2019-08-10, 15:24
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Hi Anita
Thank you so much for the pages you send, amazing you found this so quickly I have spend the last ten days looking through so many pages and it is very difficult for me to decipher the writings. Although I have not yet understood how Johan Peter turned into Rosenquist when his father was a Bengtson?? Also how do you show that Christina Maria Carlson, Johan Peter and Johan Henrik Rosenquist are connected. I have not established any birth record for Johan Henrik or the marriage between the parents. I have had a feeling all along that there was something in the family like a crime, prison or parting of the family. If you have more entries to help me out. Very much appreciated. A big thank you Ulla

2019-08-10, 15:25
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The text about his run-in with justice:

Citera
Rosenquist är af Göteborgs Rådhusrätt d 9 Jan 73 dömd för 1st resan stöld å Sabbatis tid till förlust af medborgerligt förtroende i fem år.

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Citera
Rosenquist was, by the Gothenburg City Court, on Jan 9th 1873 convicted for 1st time theft during the sabbath, to loose citizens trust for 5 years.

Ullervads kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/GLA/13599/A I/13 (1875-1880), sida 283, bildid: C0053106_00241 (or AID: v45202.b299.s283)

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2019-08-10, 15:33
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Hi Staffan and Ben
I appreciate the answers you give me, it helps out a lot
if there are any more records I will be very happy.
The story of Johan Henrik is very interesting he arrived in Cook Islands, Pacific Ocean in 1880
had four children with to native women, then left for American Samoa where he worked on a scooner
sailing people around the islands. He married a native woman Nanave and had one daughter wither her
called Nora. Nora's great grand daughter is my contact. Rosenquist is mentioned in many of the
Mormon missioners handwritten diaries, his wife baptized to the Mormon faith and Johan Henrik did
as well in 1893, that is where I got the information of where he came from.

Thank you again
Ulla

2019-08-10, 16:52
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Here's the story of the theft, from Göteborgsposten 1872-12-28, page 2.

On christmas day [Dec 25, 1872] JHR stole some money from the locked chest belonging to his flatmate, seaman Johan Edvard Gillberg from Tjörnö parish, in the flat at Tyggårdsgatan 4. He had promised to keep the key to the chest. He took 10 or 15 riksdaler in swedish coins, and 4 £ in gold coin. When he was arrrested a few days later, he still had the english coins -- the swedish money he had spent on a lady living at Tyggårdsgatan.

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2019-08-10, 17:04
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WONDERFUL
how you get to these stories, I have not been able to get into the Swedish newspapers
: )
I f you have any resources telling us when he left Sweden that would be really something
thanks
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Ulla

2019-08-10, 17:53
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In Ullervads kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/GLA/13599/A I/12 (1869-1874), sida 183, bildid: C0053105_00191,  (or AID: v58949.b195.s183) it says he got papers ("frejdebetyg") to go to Stockholm July 26, 1873.

However, he's not noted in Rotemansarkivet, and he may have gone somewhere else, or straight to sea ...

I'm not very good at finding seamen, but I did manage to find his signoff from the brig Annie on Dec 5, 1872, just before the unfortunate incident with the flatmate's money. Not filmed by Riksarkivet, but available from Arkiv Digital; Sjömanshuset i Göteborg (O) DIc:84 (1872) Bild 3260 / sid 523 (AID: v289359.b3260.s523, NAD: SE/GLA/12466). They'd come from Alloa, in Scotland. He was a "jungman", an apprentice seaman.

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EDIT: added the date for the "betyg"
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2019-08-11, 06:39
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You people are amazing
I am so happy and grateful that you helped me out and will add
l will the information to the file I prepare for my contact.
You have made my week for ten days I have been frustrated over
not being able to locate this guy anywhere.
venligst
Ulla

2019-08-11, 11:44
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Hi Ulla!


Johan Henrik is born oäkta- (illegitimate child) in Norra Ving, Skaraborg, C:4, 1849-1869, page 13 with father skräddarmästare (master tailor) XX Rosenqvist from Mariestad, mother piga (maid) Christina Carlsson/Carlsdotter from Brevik.


Johan Henrik moves to his fosterparents 1857.
Ullervad B:3, 1851-1865, picture 33, nr 12
In Ullervad AI:10, 1851-1859, page 287 is a note "Father skräddarmästare H Rosenqvist in Mariestad"
In Ulervad AI:11, 1860-1868, page 45 is a note " Father Tailor Hen. Rosenqvist made Kerstin Karlsdotter from Brevik" "she is dead"


In Mariestad there are a skräddarmästare Henrik Rosenqvist born 18210504 in Norra Ullerud, dead 18760721 in Klara parish, Stockholm.
Mariestad AI:20, 1851-1855, page 13, 15 and 36.
Mariestad AI:22, 1855-1860, page 13.


In prison Göteborgs länsfängelse DIIId:4, 1868-1875, page 279 says that his father is Joh. Rosenqvist who lives and mother Christina Carlsdotter dead.


Johan Peter Rosenqvist born 1834 is to young to be a skräddarmästare 1854. In 1856 JP Rosenqvist is a skräddaregesäll (learning to be a skräddare/tailor/ in Göteborg


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2019-08-13, 08:48
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Hi
Thanks to all the inputs from the above people I have been able to discovera lot of the history
of Johan Henrik Rosenquist. Although there are still some holes to be filled. Yesterday I discovered
that Johan Henrik's half sister Emma Dorothea 1859-1934(daughter of mother Christina Maria)
immigrated through Denmark and England to Australia with her husband Oscar Emanuel Bidstrup and
son Charles Emanuel. Sadly the son died at the age of 22 in 1904 so there are no continuation of the family
there.
Has anyone experience what was the most common route to travel to Australia/ New Zealand.
Johan Henrik disappear in records after his prison case in 1873 and I wonder whether he fled with a ship
and then continued to New Zealana and later Cook Oslands. I have not found him in any sjomanhus apart
from the above mentioned record where he disembarked from Scotland in 1872. He is not registrered
in the houses around Goteborg or Stockholm.
thanks

Ulla

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