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2015-04-12, 03:06
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Translation needed:  Household record Stora Mellösa A1:11a (1806-1810) Image 117/page110 (AID: v52345.b117.s110, NAD:SE?ULA/11458
I cannot translate Corparal Johan Täman's birthplace.  Is his first wife Elin Pårsdotter?  What is Stina Cajsa's mother's name??? Cajsa ???? b. 21 January 1770.  Does 17 January 1809 refer to the bann's being read and 14 February 1809 refer to her wedding.  I cannot not translate where she is from?  Thank you for your help.

2015-04-12, 08:55
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Barbara!
 
I think that Johan Täman was born in Västergötland (province)
The first wife was Elin Pärsdotter.
The second wife Cajsa Carlsdotter.
They were married 14/2 1809 and she moved in from Asker parish 17/2 1809.
 
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2015-04-13, 00:04
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Translation:  Stora Mellösa F:3 (1801-1861) Image 80 (AID: v53845.b80, NAD: SE/ULA/11458 (Source: Arkiv Digital AD AB)
 
June 5 1849 Nils Larsson from Wallby egor (agor?) dies.  Next to his entry is something I can't translate  ?omgnd?? barn
 
I have not been able to find his birth record.  The household records say he was born 21 December 1803.  There is no birth record in Stora Mellösa.
 
Thanks for you help.  
 
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2015-04-13, 09:02
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Barb!
 
Nils Larsson death record: 3 omyndiga barn = 3 children under age.
 
He was born 21 October 1803 (Stora Mellösa C/5)
 
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2015-04-13, 14:15
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2015-04-17, 15:17
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I am trying to find the birth record for Johan Täman born 1764.  In a prior post, Anita thought he was born in the province of Västergötland.  I have found the earliest record of Johan in Stora Mellösa:  Stora Mellösa A1:8a (1791-1795) Image 92/page 85 (AID:  v52339.b92.s85, NAD:  SE?ULA/11458) Arkiv Digital.  He came to Täby Soldat in 1790, but I cannot not translate the village he came from.  All help is appreciated.

2015-04-17, 15:58
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Translation help:  Stora Mellösa E1:3 (1808-1861) Image 150 (AID: v53841.b150, NAD: SE/ULA/11458 Arkiv Digital.  This is a marriage record #10 1857 for soldier Lars Nilson Ros from Ekeby ägor and Maja Stina Nilsdotter from Laggartorp.  When were the banns read and when was the actual marriage?  Thank you for your help.

2015-04-18, 19:24
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Regarding the marriage record it says the the first banns were read 1857 Aug 23 and the third were read on Sept 06 (at this time there were 3 banns read on Sundays before wedding). The marriage was 1857  Sept 20!
 
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2015-04-18, 19:58
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Barbara!
 
Regarding the soldier Johan Larsson Täman!
I found his moving in record to Stora Mellösa 1790 [Stora Mellösa B:1 (1746-1799) Bild 68 (AID: v53823.b68, NAD: SE/ULA/11458) #1] and there it says the he is moved in from the parish of Hova (R) in the province of Västergötland. He can be born in Hova!
 
In the Centrala Soldatregistret (The Swedish Central register of Soldiers) Ive found Johan Larsson Täman. See the picture!
 

 
The data says that he was born 1764 but not in which parish and was retired in 1819!
 
His patronymic name Larsson shows that his father's first name was Lars! His name Täman is his soldiername!
 
Maybe you know that Johan Täman died 1823 Jan 31 and was buried Feb 09 [Stora Mellösa F:3 (1801-1861) Bild 31 (AID: v53845.b31, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)].
 
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2015-04-19, 00:08
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Per, Thank you for your help.  I need to learn how to use the soldier information materials.

2015-04-19, 10:54
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Barbara!
 
The link to the Centrala Soldatregistret är:
http://www.ep.liu.se/databases/soldatregister/search.sv.aspx
 
 
The text:Det kan finnas mer uppgifter om soldaten än vad som visas här t.ex. familjebild eller andra värdefulla upplysningar. Kontakta gärna registret nedan för mer information. Ange soldatens namn och aktnummer  means It could be additional information about the soldier, more than shown here, i e the family and other useful information. Contact the Register and give the name of the soldier and the items number (Aktnummer: NÄ-01-0018-1790).
The cost is SEK 40 per post and if it should be mailed you have additional fee for postage.  
 
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2015-04-19, 12:56
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In Stora Mellösa BI:1 it looks like he is born in Hova 1768.  
 
Here he is in the military records from 1792, 1797, 1802, 1805 and 1811. His soldier number is 28:
Generalmönsterrullor - Närke och Värmlands regemente 193 (1792-1792) Bild 190 (AID: v46638a.b190, NAD: SE/KrA/0023)
Generalmönsterrullor - Närke och Värmlands regemente 194 (1797-1797) Bild 20 / sid 26 (AID: v46639.b20.s26, NAD: SE/KrA/0023)
Generalmönsterrullor - Närke och Värmlands regemente 195 (1802-1802) Bild 16 (AID: v46640.b16, NAD: SE/KrA/0023)
Generalmönsterrullor - Närke och Värmlands regemente 196 (1805-1805) Bild 23 / sid 27 (AID: v46641.b23.s27, NAD: SE/KrA/0023)
Generalmönsterrullor - Närke och Värmlands regemente 197 (1811-1811) Bild 16 / sid 9 (AID: v46642a.b16.s9, NAD: SE/KrA/0023)
 
(Centrala soldatregistret is a secondary source.)
 
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2015-04-19, 19:46
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When I stumble, the people at Anbytarforum are always there to give me new direction.  Thank you Per and Kristina.

2015-04-19, 20:21
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If Hova is the right place, there are two Jean (Jan) born in 1768 with father Lars, March 23 in Smedstorp and November 1 in Fagerlid.
 
Hova C:3 (1747-1814) Bild 68 / sid 127 (AID: v45284.b68.s127, NAD: SE/GLA/13222)  
Hova C:3 (1747-1814) Bild 69 / sid 129 (AID: v45284.b69.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13222)
 
In Hova B:1 there is a dräng Jan Larsson moving to Fredsberg on 1789:
Hova B:1 (1776-1855) Bild 151 / sid 291 (AID: v45278.b151.s291, NAD: SE/GLA/13222)
 
But your soldier is Johan Arvidsson Täman...

2015-04-19, 20:42
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Kristina, My soldier is Johan Larsson Tåman.  In Stora Mellösa A1:8a (1791-1795) he is listed as Johan Arvidsson Tåman, but in Stora Mellösa A1:9a (1796-1800) Image 102/page 96 (AID: v52341.b102.s96, NAD:: SE/ULA/11458) Arkiv Digital, Arvid is crossed out and Larsson is written above it.
 
I finally figured out that Jean can be Johan in the birth records.  I will try to follow the two boys named Jean Larsson and see if they lead me to my Jean/Johan.  All of the Stora Mellösa household records from 1791-1823 show his birth year as 1764 however.
 
On the Stora Mellösa 8a household records, it show a moving in in 1790 and a place I cannot read.  Can you decipher this?  I'm not sure if the first letter is a F or a T.

2015-04-19, 21:38
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No, I cannot understand what this place could be, but I think it begins with a F.
 
Here he is called Jonas Arvidsson Täman, with first examination record May 1789 (if it is the same guy):
Stora Mellösa AI:7a (1786-1790) Bild 72 / sid 66 (AID: v52337.b72.s66, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)
 
No, this Jonas moves in here:
Stora Mellösa B:1 (1746-1799) Bild 67 (AID: v53823.b67, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)
 
In his first military record 1792 Jan Larsson Täman is 24 years old = born 1768.
Generalmönsterrullor - Närke och Värmlands regemente 193 (1792-1792) Bild 190 (AID: v46638a.b190, NAD: SE/KrA/0023)
 
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2015-04-19, 22:26
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Maybe you have this already, but here is the wedding for soldier nr 28 Jan Larsson Täman and widow Elin Persdotter:
Stora Mellösa EI:2 (1768-1808) Bild 38 / sid 34 (AID: v53840.b38.s34, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)

2015-04-20, 00:25
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Johan Tåman died on 31 January 1823 as recorded in the household records and F:3 Stora Mellösa Image 31.  It says he was 59 years -months-days.  Subtracting 1823-59=1764, but the person recording this could have used the household records for his birth year.  
 
I may never find his birth record.
 
Thanks again for your help.

2015-04-20, 00:54
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I think the birth date 1764 comes from Jan's predecessor Jonas Arvidsson Täman.

2015-04-20, 15:05
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Translation help:  Stora Mellösa A1:11b (1806-1810) Image 52/page 47 (AID: v52346.b52.s47, NAD: SE/ULA/11458) Arkiv Digital
 
No. 21 Anders Knarberg 73 Nora - 11th column- what does the date 1 November 1807 refer to.  I also cannot find his death in the death records.  I read his death date as 20 November 1808.
 
Anders and his family first appear in Stora Mellösa A10b (1801-1805) Image 49/page 43.  
 
Any information on Anders Knarberg is appreciated.  There are many Anders born in Nora in 1773.

2015-04-20, 21:03
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Barabra!
 
The date 1807 Nov 01 refer to  his betroth to Brita Pärsdotter! They got married Nov 20! See Stora Mellösa EI:2 (1768-1808) Bild 68 / sid 64 (AID: v53840.b68.s64, NAD: SE/ULA/11458) #8.
 
Regarding his death I can't either find his death record!
 
During 1808-1809 there was a war between Sweden and Russia, when Sweden lost Finland, and maybe his unit were in duty during that war and he , maybe, got killed!
 
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2015-04-29, 15:14
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Translation help:  Stora Mellösa A1:15a (1826-1830) Image 50/page 46 (AID: v52353.b50.s46, NAD: SE/ULA/11458  Arkiv Digital
 
Maja Andersdotter b. 21 September 1802  There is a note on the right hand page saying she moves to Bärsta p. 18 and a note that I believe says she married Nils Nilsson ..
 
I cannot find Bärsta and I cannot translate the note about her marriage.  Thank you for your help.

2015-04-29, 17:44
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Barbara!
 
I can't read every word in the note, but maybe someone  can!
 
What I can see is that they were engaged 1828 Sept 15! They married 1828 Oct 26 [Stora Mellösa EI:3 (1808-1861) Bild 73 (AID: v53841.b73, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)] #6.
 
You will find Nils Nilsson on this page [Stora Mellösa AI:15a (1826-1830) Bild 49 / sid 45 (AID: v52353.b49.s45, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)] at the bottom.
 
They moved to Bärsta and you will find them here [Stora Mellösa AI:15b (1826-1830) Bild 23 / sid 18 (AID: v52354.b23.s18, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)] together with their two children Anna and Nils.
 
They moved further to Laggartorp 1830 and you will find them here [Stora Mellösa AI:15a (1826-1830) Bild 59 / sid 55 (AID: v52353.b59.s55, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)].
 
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2016-01-30, 19:02
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Translation help:  Stora Mellos C:4 (1747-1780) Image 8 (AID: v53831.b8, NAD:SE/ULA/11458)  This is the birth record for Anna Jånsdotter born 29 September 1747.  I know her fathers first name is Jån, but am not sure of his last name.  I really need everything translated so I can find them in the household records.  Thanks for your help.

2016-01-31, 10:58
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Hi Barbara,
 
Her father's name was not Jån but Jan, and his patronymic is Persson. Anna's mother was Kierstin Tyresdotter.  
 
You'll find the family in Resta: Stora Mellösa AI:1 (1749-1757), page 38 (AID: v52331.b24.s38, NAD: SE/ULA/11458).
 
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2016-02-02, 18:07
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Translation help:  Stora Mellösa E:1 (1705-1767) Image 63 (AID: v53839.b63, NAD: SE/ULA/11458)
I'm looking for the marriage of an Erik Larsson and Kirstin Ersdotter.  The first household record that I have is Stora Mellösa A1:3 (1762-1784) Image 39 /page 62.  They were married in 1762.  Their first child was born in 1767 and died in 1767.  Question:  I cannot find Erik Larsson's birth in the Stora Melissa records. He was born 4 January 1730.  The marriage records say where he is from, but I cannot not read the parish name.  I would also like to confirm that I have the correct marriage date.  Any help is appreciated.

2016-02-02, 19:48
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Barbara,  
You are asking for Erik Larsson. In Stora Mellösa AI:3 (1762-1784) p 62 I find Lars Larsson born 1730-01-04 and Kerstin Ericsdotte born 1741-03-14. Are those the people you are lokking for?
 
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2016-02-02, 20:46
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2016-02-02, 22:04
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Translation help:  Stora Mellos C:3 (1705-1746) Image 12 (AID: v53830.b12, NAD: SE/ULA/11458   This is the birth record for Erik Andersson born 2 March 1708.  I believe it says his father's name is Anders Ersson and his mother is Ingrid ?????? from Usta.  Can you read Ingrid's last name?

2016-02-02, 22:20
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Yes, you read it correct. The mothers name is Ingrid Hansdotter.
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