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Författare Ämne: Trying to find a family after they came to the America  (läst 1241 gånger)

2018-04-18, 15:49
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Utloggad Ken Johnson

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On Ancestry.com I have a Christina Maria Åkesdotter (b-28 NOV 1843 • Augerum) and a Magnus Holjersson Soderberg (14 FEB 1841 • Kufvehall 92, Kristianopel) and their children Thilda Maria, Haken Peter leaving Sweden for America in 27 Mar 1875 from Kristianopel, Blekinge.

I am unable to find this in the parish records but there is no index for the Husförhörslängder, I have a hard time understanding the Swedish on the "Riksarkivet" pages and I am not having luck.

In the end I am trying find out where they came to in America if the parish records say anything about destination.

Could/would someone help?

Ken Johnson

2018-04-18, 20:38
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Here they are in the houshold examination book of Kristanopel 1875 - 1883.
It says only that Magnus is a Blacksmith and that the famely is living in Amerika.

There is also a note in the book 1868 - 1875 mentioning a "certificate for America 1872 31 05". Probably a proof that he is a honorable man.

Good luck with your research / Roy

2018-04-19, 16:49
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Thanks Roy for looking it up and for your reply and the information.

I have the attached pages but it still isn't much help.

I also have this...

Magnus Söderberg

in the Sweden, Emigrants Registered in Church Books, 1783-1991
Name:     Magnus Söderberg
Gender:     Man (Male)
Birth Date:     14 feb 1841
Birth Place:     Kristianopel, Blekinge
Departure Date:     27 mar 1875
Departure Place:     Kristianopel, Blekinge
Arrival Place:     Amerika (USA)
Occupation or Relation:     Smed
Marital Status:     Married
Notes:     Travels with family
Original Page:     397

And this...

Chr Maria Åkersdotter

in the Swedish Emigration Records, 1783-1951
Name:     Chr Maria Åkersdotter
Birth Year:     abt 1843
Gender:     Kvinna (Female)
Place of Origin:     Ägrum Blekinge Län, Sverige
Record Date:     7 maj 1875 (7 May 1875)
Port of Departure:     Göteborg
Database Name:     EmiHamn
Archive Call Number:     9:96:2429
Traveling Companion:     M
Principal Person:     Åkersdotter Chr Maria

Does someone maybe have Emibas that they could look these folks up when they came over and see if it possibly says where they were headed (destination)?

Regards,
Ken Johnson

2018-04-20, 14:43
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Magnus Söderberg's wife and two children left Gothenburg for Hull May 7 1875. No destination is mentioned in the list of passengers, but perhaps it should be New York as for the last persons on the previous page. Link: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0056898_00069.


2018-04-20, 17:45
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I found this (attached) at this location...

Kristianopels kyrkoarkiv, Flyttningslängder, SE/LLA/13211/B/2 (1862-1894) Bild 55

What are they referring to Folio Uti Förhörsboken - "397"? 3rd line down... or "3." right hand page.

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2018-04-21, 00:23
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2018-04-21, 14:01
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Thanks Roy

Found it... and it doesn't say where in America they were headed (I didn't think it would, I mostly just wanted to find this document and see everything on it), I guess I am going to have to purchase Emibase.

Kristianopels kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13211/A I/20 (1868-1875), Bild 142 Sida 397

What does it say on the right side - "? till Amerika" (cropped view also attached)


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2018-04-21, 14:52
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Hi Ken, Christina Maria and her two children arrived in New York 24 May 1875 on the SS Britannic.  The following is from New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 on Ancestry.com, unfortunately the manifest lists their destination only as "USA". 



Name:   Christian Mackersdotter
Arrival date:   24 May 1875
Birth Date:   abt 1843
Age:   32
Gender:   Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality:   Swedish
Place of Origin:   Sweden
Port of Departure:   Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination:   United States of America
Port of Arrival:   New York, New York
Ship Name:   Britannic


Name:   Hilda Mackersdotter
Arrival date:   24 May 1875
Birth Date:   abt 1872
Age:   3
Gender:   Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality:   Swedish
Place of Origin:   Sweden
Port of Departure:   Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination:   United States of America
Port of Arrival:   New York, New York
Ship Name:   Britannic


Name:   Peter Mackersdotter
Arrival date:   24 May 1875
Birth Date:   abt 1873
Age:   2
Gender:   Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:   Swedish
Place of Origin:   Sweden
Port of Departure:   Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination:   United States of America
Port of Arrival:   New York, New York
Ship Name:   Britannic

2018-04-21, 15:03
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As I said my first answer; Bevis till Amerika =  "certificate for America 1872 31 05". Probably a proof that he is a honorable man.

2018-04-21, 20:11
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Ken, isn´t it more likely to find them in US Census, perhaps through "familysearch.org"? Have you tried to find them at "findagrave" in US?
There wouldn´t be any address to find in Swedish sources.

2018-04-21, 20:18
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Marianne,

Nothing is coming up on him (or them) over here in the States. I have been on Familysearch.org and Ancestry.com for Census', etc.. If they were on Findagrave they would show up on Ancestry.com. No luck on DISBYT except his birth.

I don't come here (Anbytarforum) before checking those other easier sources just mentioned... I come here as a last resort when I have exhausted all of those options and everything over here has come up with nothing.

That's why I am trying so hard to get something from that end, otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

There are some Magnus Soderberg's but immigration dates and birth years are different.

I don't know if he/they changed their last name or what happened?

Ken Johnson

2018-04-22, 08:32
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Ken, I didn´t mean to insult you.
Maybe, they changed their names. Magnus Söderberg wont be an easy name to pronounce, I guess.
The only chance in Swedish books would perhaps be an inventory when an unmarried sibling died. Maybe there could be an US state mentioned. Sibling or Magnus and the wife´s parents Death perhaps - if they died after their emigration.
Hopefully me or someone here will be able to help you.

2018-04-22, 18:01
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The certificate mentioned in Kristianopel AI:20 page 397 is an ordinary "moving out attestation" (flyttattest). It is dated 31/5 72, and in AI:22 page 400 is a notation on Magnus Söderberg "Amerika 1872", to the left of his name.

He probably left already then, before the rest of the family, so I started to search from that date and found him here:
Göteborgs poliskammare (-1900) EIX:6 (1872-1872) Bild 1960 / sid 387 (AID: v479730.b1960.s387, NAD: SE/GLA/12703)

Left Göteborg on Orlando June 7, destination Moline, Illinois.

2018-04-23, 15:29
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Marianne,

No worries... It looks like Kristina is on to something.

Thanks
Ken

2018-04-23, 16:01
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Kristina,

Great! Now I have him headed to Moline, Illinois so I can search in and around there.

Hopefully now this is enough of a lead I can track them down.

Thank you very much! Thanks to everyone!  :)

Ken Johnson

 

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