Johan Mikaelsson 1755-1829

[Georgina Smith]

Johan was son of Mikael Olofsson and Kerstin Johansdotter. He married Malin Pehrsdotter. They lived in Godsmersta of this parish. A son was born in 1786, info found on HFL 1809-1819.
I hope someone can find the exact birth date for the son.


I found the death record of Johan Mikaelsson 18 Jan 1829 in Godmersta. I would like to know what all the writing is by his name.


He had a brother Olof supposed to be born 1757 in Godmersta. I hope someone will be able to find his birth record to confirm names of parents and day and month of birth.




Thanks in advance!
Georgina

[Leif Lundkvist]

No birth or marriage records are preserved from ca 1728 to ca 1790 in Grundsunda, and therefore it is probably not possible to find the date or the parents of Johan from any birth record. My guess is that there has been one book once but it has been lost. You probably know that the family is also found in Grundsunda AI:1 (1779-1808) Bild 36 / sid 59 (AID: v121316.b36.s59, NAD: SE/HLA/1010048) with another son born 1799.


The death record say "Farmer Johan Michelsson af old age, married, buried 1 February, age 76 years, 1 week, 2 days; and below the burial fee 2 mark". Thus Johan's birthday was known at the time, suggesting that a birth record excisted but has been lost later.

[Georgina Smith]

Thanks for info Leif! I just looked at P. 59 and I am amazed that you can read it. I cannot make out the names.


Georgina

[Georgina Smith]

Since I couldn't read Page 59 I looked at Page 58 again and now I see Johan and Malin further down on the page. I wonder if there is an error for birth year of son as 1799. Is the name Petrus Esias ? In 1799 the mother would be 50, rather old to have a child.


I have another question, there is a son of Mikael Olofsson, Jacob about half way down page 58 who was born 1777. What is the word before his birth year?

[Leif Lundkvist]

When I read more carefully it looks like a Petrus Esaiasson born 1796 or 1797, i.e. not as I first thought a son with two first names born 99, and the 99 is probably a 96 changed to or from a 97. Thus it is probably a son of Esaias Michalson born 1767 further up the page. But I don't find a birth record for him in Grundsunda 1797-99.


The word on Jacob is probably Nedersjö, but that is probably not a place in Grundsunda and not a parish, maybe a place in some parish close to Grundsunda. There is a Nedansjö in Stöde.

[Georgina Smith]

Thanks again Leif ! Yes, I am sure you are correct about Petrus even before I double check the family. I have lots of info for the family of Esaias born 1767.
This research is sometimes a mystery.

[Per Sundin]

Since your question originally implied that Johan Mikaelsson should be born in 1755 I checked his birth date. In AI:1 he is born 1755, in AI:2 1755 18/1 in AI:3 1753 27/1, if you use the death-record 1753 9/1. I you look into the population register 1773 you will find two sons in the column för sons between 15 and 18 years, noone in the column för sons older than 18 years. 1774 there are also two sons of which the elder is older than 18. Thus the birth date should be 1755, exact date probably 18/1 according to AI:2.
If you are interested of his first wife Malin Persdotter I can give you her origin in Täfteå in Arnäs, born 1744 24/9. That explains why there was only one (known) child in that marriage, Michel born 1786.
Johan's brother Jacob born 1777 probably left for Sidensjö.

[Georgina Smith]

Thank you so much Per! I am very glad for your help!
Yes, it would be nice to have more info about Malin Persdotter that you offer to give.


Another thing I would really appreciate is if you can find info for brother of Johan.
Olof / Olov born 1857.


Long ago, dead many years, a relative of this family did research. In his information he does not give  Olof as a son. Info that was sent to me few weeks ago, not from this website, had Olov as a son of Olof Mikaelsson. Could you check in AI:1 for Olof birth same as you did for Johan?
Info that was sent to me had death of Olov as 1825-05-31 in Röbåck, umeå, lands{parish}. But it is birth I want little proof of.


I am glad for all help I get that makes the family tree complete.

[Per Sundin]

Since couples often marry in the bride's home-parish you can find this in the marriage record in Arnäs 1784 4/7: drängen Olof Michelsson i Gommersta med pigan Malin Pärsdotter i Täfteå. This must be Johan. Olof married in 1781 with Anna Persdotter from Öden and they left for Umeå in 1783 according to the population register. In the church registers in Umeå Country Parish his birth date unanimously is stated as 1757. This birth date is confirmed with the population register 1775 with one (Olof) in the column sons 15-18 years and one (Johan) in the column sons more than 18 years, 1776 0 and 2 (Johan and Olof) in these columns. I hope that satisfies your demand för proofs of Olof's birth-date.
Here is the family of Malin Persdotter (a complete pedigree could be made with the help of my father's and my book "Släkter och gårdar i Arnäs"):

ANSEDEL Per Larsson


Per Larsson
* 1724-03-08 Arnäs Täfteå 1:1
† 1761
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F: Lars Christiernsson * 1684 Arnäs
M: Malin Persdotter * 1700-03-25 Arnäs
   g: 1722-01-21 Arnäs
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  Fam:
 Maria Matsdr * 1721-11-19 Brunsnyland 2:1 † 1773-04-12
  g: 1742-11-07
    1 Malin * 1744-09-24 Arnäs † 1821-12-13
    2 Sigri * 1746-07-28 Arnäs
    3 Lars * 1750-05-06 Arnäs † 1787
    4 Maria * 1752-04-24 Arnäs † 1796-07-10
    5 Matthias * 1754-05-03 Arnäs † 1836-05-23
    6 Per * 1756-05-03 Arnäs † 1829
    7 Helena * 1759-02-09 Arnäs † 1795-09-06
    8 Catharina * 1760-08-17 Arnäs † 1841
    9 Christina * 1764-10-23 Arnäs

[Georgina Smith]

Thank you very much for all this information! All your searching is very much appreciated. I think I better do more searching. When I read your info again that Malin was first wife of Johan, I need to find other wife.


Thanks,
Georgina