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« skrivet: 2009-12-03, 07:58 »
Hej Britt Marie
Tak for din hurtige reaktion.
Beklageligevis er sidste halvdel af min meddelelse fra i går ikke kommet med. Dermed er pointen væk, nemlig forbindelsen mellem Uhrboms i Östergötland og Västergötland..
Den kommer her:
Carl Johan og Franz's far:
Carl Johan Martin Uhrbom boede og arbejdede på Motala Verstad, hvilket må antages at brødrene også gjorde, eller at de i hvert fald fik deres oplæring i Motala. Det er højest sandsynligt at brødrene er rejst til Göteborg for at arbejde på den underafdeling af Motala Verstad , Lindholmens varv værft ved Göteborg, som i 1858 var blevet indkøbt af Motala Verstad, for der at kunne bygge store skibe.
Carl Johan Martin var søn af pigen Anna Brita Bengtsdotter fra Längenäs, Vist sogn.
Hans mor var ugift og navnet på Carl Johan Martins far er ukendt.
Efternavnet Uhrbom har, efter alt at dømme, taget efter sin mors nye mand, Herman Uhrbom. Anna Brita Bengtsdotter giftede sig med smeden Herman Uhrbom i 1832, da Carl Johan Martin var 11 år. (the book uf deaths i Landeryd 1842, da Herman døde,)
Carl Johan Martin Uhrbom døde ved en ulykke 28 januar 1889 i Motala(avisomtale)
Kilderne er enten fra Genline eller fra SVAR, plus god hjælp fra Ambytarforums sider
hushälsforhör fra 1883 til 1889. Her bor familien Uhrbom i Karl Johan i 2 Vart D i Göteborg og Bohus län. (nr.895.52.4900)
Venlig Hilsen
Helen Cliff
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« skrivet: 2009-12-02, 15:57 »
Mon der r nogen forbindelse til
Brødrene Carl Oscar og Franz Ferdinand Uhrbom? Begge født i Motala Östergötlanad, far:
Carl Johan Martin Uhrbom, født 1923 i Vist og Johanne Charlotte Kinman, født 27 dec. 1824 i Motala.
Carl Oscar Uhrbom er født 23 december 1852 i Motala, Östergötland, og er maskinisk (maskinarbejder) Familien er tilflyttet til adressen i Karl Johan i 1884.
Han blev gift med Sofie Olsdatter (Jonson) Moren, Sofie Olsdatter, er født 4 oktober 1855 i Sankt . Peder [i dag i Lille Edet kommune] , i Vestergötland.
Carl Oskar og Sofie blev gift (15. El-5?) November i 1879. Begge forældrene er døbte og konfirmerede, men er i 1884 baptister, og derfor er ingen af deres børn blevet døbt, og findes derfor heller ikke i de svenske kirkebøger
De havde følgende børn
Ida Sofie født 19 maj 1880 (Nb fejl i Husförhör, er hun forvekslet med sin bror David Oskar)
Min amerikanske mands svenske mormomr, udrejst til Usa i 1906. Hun gifter sig i
1907 i Escanaba, Delta Co. I Michigan. Med norske George Peterson.
David Oskar født 4 december 1882
Karl Daniel, født 9 juni 1885
Esther Alexandra, født 15 juli 1888
Alle børn er født i Götheborg og er ikke blevet døbt.
I en senere tælling har Carl Oskar og Sofie flere er børn mere
Maria Helena Josefine, f. 1892
Ellen Naëmi f. 1896
Tyra Ingeborg Genée, f. 1898.
(Svensk FT 1890 896.52.499000 A I:36 og 1900 for Carl Johan forsamlingen, Göteborg och Bohus Län, Vester Göttland,)
På Husförhörskemaet 1883 - 89 finder vi også Carl Oscars yngre bror Frantz (ulæseligt mellemnavn, andetsteds Ferdinand), født 14 november 1857 i Motala, gift 25 december 1978 med Johanna Augusta Johanson, født 9 maj 1851 i Starrkurr (G) (næsten ulæseligt)
Med børnene:
Ruth Elisabeth, født 10 november 1880
Elin Augusta, født 8 november 1882
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« skrivet: 2009-06-05, 20:12 »
Thank you, Brit-Marie, we have an invasion of grandchildren now and the rest of the weekend -- so I first had a chance to reply now that the house is quiet.
As you can see, we did mail Karl to the old address and, obviously, it is still valid. We did find the info you mentioned as well as a few other things in SVAR, so, again, thanks!
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« skrivet: 2009-06-04, 18:46 »
I was happy to have found a message about the Kinmans. Joh Kinman and his wife Helena Kindwall (or kinwall) were my ggg grandparents.
Their daughter, Johanna Charlotte Kinman, born 27 dec. 1824 in Motala, married .abt. 1847 Carl Johan Martin Uhrbom, born 7 aug. 1823, in Vist.
So far the only trace I have of the Kinman/Kindwall couple is a household examination showing that Joh. Kinman was born. 1791 or 1797, and Helena Kinwall born 1 april 1794.
Unfortunately I can't read Karl Fryklind's attached marriage record. To me it looks like somebody died, 2 years old. Does it have a number in SVAR, as well as one for the GID 340.4.82400 quoted in his first post?
Can someone help? I will be grateful for any information about the Kinman and Kindwall families.
Thank you
Charles Cliff
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« skrivet: 2009-05-21, 20:15 »
Thanks to help and advice we've gotten here and other places, we've come quite some ways in finding information about my mother, Eunice Peterson's Swedish roots -- but now we have come to an impasse.
My maternal grandmother was Ida Sofia Uhrbom and her father, Carl Oscar Uhrbom, was born in Motala 23 December 1852 and his father Carl Johan Martin Uhrbom b. 7 August 1823, to Anna Brita Bengsdt in Längenäs, Vist Sogn. However, the surname Uhrbom is not recorded at birth, only later in census reports.
So, what I need to figure out is how he acquired the surname, Uhrbom? Was it by adoption, did his mother marry an Uhrbom -- who might have even been his biological father?
I'm really at a loss here, I haven't been able to uncover more in SVAR or Genline -- but maybe I don't know where to look.
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« skrivet: 2009-05-04, 10:53 »
Again, thanks for the info, Chris -- I'll see about getting access to SVAR, well, I have but haven't had time to figure out how work with it. Heck, I haven't even figured out how to pay for the Rötters Vänner subscription. I'm going back to the Bokhandel when I've posted this and see if I can figure it out this time...
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« skrivet: 2009-04-29, 08:38 »
Chris, thank most kindly for this info, especially for the volume and page numbers I was able to easily find the entries I have been seeking in vain for some time with Genline's family finder.
I can't find the volume AI:50 in the census of Motala Mechanical Factory and assume that is because Genline has only parish church records and you can see it elsewhere? Also, the Svar data base reference eludes me.
In any case thanks for the help -- I started my search only knowing that my mother's maiden name was Eunice Peterson and that her parents were either from Sweden or Norway. My father never talked about his first wife and his second wife did not like the Petersons.
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« skrivet: 2009-04-26, 08:53 »
I am looking for my Swedish grandmother Eda/Ida Uhrbom, who in the United states later chanced her first name to Edith. She married George Peterson (of Norwegian origin) in Michigan, Delta County in 1907. They lived in Ford River, Delta County in 1920.
My mother Eunice, born 1922 in Michigan, married my father, Robin Cliff, in 1938 in Indiana, USA. she died in 1943, while I was still an infant in Indiana..
My grandmother is likely to be Ida Sofia Uhrbom who emigrated to USA in 1906. Presumably she was the daughter of Sophia Olsdatter Jonson, born in Sankt Peder in 1855, and Karl (Carl) Oskar Urhbom, born in Motala in 1852.
Carl Oskar and Sofia lived in Göteborgs Karl Johan forsamlingen in Göteborg in 1890 (but we do not have concrete documentation of this). Eda/Ida Uhrbom is believed to have been born in 1880/82 most likely in Kristine.
I will be most thankful for any clue about Carl Oskar Uhrbom and his family. It is a guess that he might be related to Peder Oskar Urhbom, and Lars Uhrbom. Carl Oskar's occupation was Maskinist, and since some of the Uhrboms in Motala are blacksmiths, there could be some connection.
I live in Denmark, speak and write Danish fluently and read Swedish faily well.
Charles Cliff
chuckcliff@gmail.com
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